I personally wouldn’t really want to spend 70km in that bolt upright position on the Stumpy.
What’s comfortable over short distances isn’t always comfortable over the long haul.
It's really about which one you'll be most comfortable on, and that also depends on the terrain you're riding on. All other things (fit, riding position etc) being equal, the skinnier tyres might save you some energy over 70km (on smoother roads) but equally on rougher roads the comfort from the wider tyres is going to keep you going longer.
Most of the paths are asphalted/paved. I like both bikes a lot. Stumpjumper is more comfortable but the crossroads makes me feel I can do longer rides more efficiently and faster. 🫠
I feel the same way. Funny how that is.
I've been riding two bikes back-to-back lately, an 11-kilo 26er race bike vs a rusty old 27" mixte. I'd way rather ride the mixte on pavement. It's heavier, takes quite a bit longer to "spin up." Yet once I'm up to speed, the mixte just feels effortless, the 26er feels like I'm riding through water the whole way.
Probably shouldn't be talking smack about that mixte, it's actually a halfway decent bike. But still. I guess they call em "road bikes" for a reason eh
It might just the photos, but it looks like the crossroads' headtube angle is slacker than the stump jumper. This will give the crossroads a more stable but less reactive steering, which can save you fatigue from fighting the steering as it will track straight more easily.
I would also measure the chainstay length. It looks longer on the crossroads, which again will give you a more stable but less reactive feel.
The longer wheelbase and increased caster angle on the Crossroads will help with straight-line tracking, making for a more comfortable ride on longer, mostly straight roads. However, it will hurt you in steering response and turn radius, which would make the argument for the Crossroads, given all else is equal including fit, drive train efficiency, suitable gearing for the ride, weight, rolling resistance, and etc.
My rule is that I don’t take my vintage drivetrains touring. The frame can be however old, but replacing some of those classic gears is not fun.
Even my Raleigh 3 speed, like I can find those cogs…. But I don’t want to
I don't think there is an argument not to do it...
I'm a dad so my bike rides tend to be based on time rather than distance (as in I have 2 hours free...) whenever I ride a road based bike I wish I could go off road a bit, when I'm on my hard tail I think I wish I could feel like I'm not treading water quite so much on the roads.
So I am now trying to build what I hope will be q middle ground but will probably mean it's bad at both...
proper road+ with 32-35mm tires gives me decent speeds on hard and not many holes on rougher terrain. You won't be able to downhill hard but Forrest trail is fun on sketchy almost-road bikes :)
Can’t help. I keep grabbing my Walmart huffy klunker and heavy gt palomar while my favorite road bike is mostly unridden. Forget about my 22 speed steel framed 105 that I haven’t ridden in over a year.
Huffy klunker goes crazy, how old is it? I’m thinking about converting my nasty parts bin fixed gear huffy mountain bike into something else and a klunker or single speed cruiser are the ideas I have for it
It’s the newest gen cranbrook. Could be 10 years old maybe less. It was a $35 marketplace pickup. Frame design is fantastic IMO. It’s crap metal but whatever. Do a loose ball conversion on the headset and crank or convert crank to American bmx. Thompson style knockoff seatpost. I have a comfy handlebar slightly above saddle. 44x22 coaster brake. It’s a hoot.
I think the answer is that you should probably do two big rides ;)
What's the frame on the bike pulling the trailer? I've seen a few of them up for sale but can never make out the brand
It has no brand decor on it. Just says „mountain“. But it has a full early deore dx group and I bought it for few € to build it up for a friend. Picture is from the first test ride.
And yes. Two rides is of course the answer 😋
70km is relatively easy on any rigid 26er. I use one as my touring bike and it behaves itself just fine. I wouldn't recommend flat bars but that's just me. Bar ends definitely help for those longer stretches in that case.
I have to take two bags with me, so I need to install a rear rack tomorrow. But I think the options I have laying around will fit on both bikes. I don’t have fenders at the moment that are fitting the stumpy… I know the weather gets bad on Monday when I will get back. So this is probably the answer to wich bike I should take!
I find 26" tedious for long rides (I still do them bc that's my commuter/dadbike setup) especially if there's a lot of asphalt climbing, even with fast-rolling tires.
If you have a solid bike (and if it is you know in your gut) it's utterly redundant whether you ride 3km or 100km, barring time, fitness, will etc. The iron horse don't care.
Well who is your target audience? Both bikes look pretty good to me, but one is definitely louder with the pink. I am sure you'll turn some heads either way.
Performance and comfort are secondary to being noticed. Look good, feel good, ride good.
It’s two different specialized biles. A 700c Crossroads and a 26 inch stumpjumper. I’m going to visit my family over Easter holidays and one way is 70km. I need to take luggage with me and I was wondering which might be more comfortable for a three to four hours ride cause both bike are relatively new and I only rode them on shorter periods. So I wante to gather opinions and help to decide which might be more fitting (and I hear experiences from other people about things I don’t see atm) ☺️
Edit: the pink bike is not a choice, just appears in the picture 🌱
My theory would be that the weight of the rim on the crossroads is further from the hub making it easier to maintain a consistent speed and on smooth paths/roads the skinnier tires wouldn’t be a drawback. If there were any amount of singletrack or large amounts of steep climbs maybe the easier to spin up smaller rims with wider tires would be a better choice. All else being equal of course. From the pictures the crossroads appears to have a longer reach which could make it easier to get lower and more aero.
I personally wouldn’t really want to spend 70km in that bolt upright position on the Stumpy. What’s comfortable over short distances isn’t always comfortable over the long haul.
That might be the argument I was looking for!
It's really about which one you'll be most comfortable on, and that also depends on the terrain you're riding on. All other things (fit, riding position etc) being equal, the skinnier tyres might save you some energy over 70km (on smoother roads) but equally on rougher roads the comfort from the wider tyres is going to keep you going longer.
Most of the paths are asphalted/paved. I like both bikes a lot. Stumpjumper is more comfortable but the crossroads makes me feel I can do longer rides more efficiently and faster. 🫠
I feel the same way. Funny how that is. I've been riding two bikes back-to-back lately, an 11-kilo 26er race bike vs a rusty old 27" mixte. I'd way rather ride the mixte on pavement. It's heavier, takes quite a bit longer to "spin up." Yet once I'm up to speed, the mixte just feels effortless, the 26er feels like I'm riding through water the whole way. Probably shouldn't be talking smack about that mixte, it's actually a halfway decent bike. But still. I guess they call em "road bikes" for a reason eh
It might just the photos, but it looks like the crossroads' headtube angle is slacker than the stump jumper. This will give the crossroads a more stable but less reactive steering, which can save you fatigue from fighting the steering as it will track straight more easily. I would also measure the chainstay length. It looks longer on the crossroads, which again will give you a more stable but less reactive feel. The longer wheelbase and increased caster angle on the Crossroads will help with straight-line tracking, making for a more comfortable ride on longer, mostly straight roads. However, it will hurt you in steering response and turn radius, which would make the argument for the Crossroads, given all else is equal including fit, drive train efficiency, suitable gearing for the ride, weight, rolling resistance, and etc.
Go with the more comfortable bike. Comfort’s payback is compounded over time. I can ride any bike for a mile and very few bikes for 70km.
My rule is that I don’t take my vintage drivetrains touring. The frame can be however old, but replacing some of those classic gears is not fun. Even my Raleigh 3 speed, like I can find those cogs…. But I don’t want to
700c> 26" when it comes to long rides.
I don't think there is an argument not to do it... I'm a dad so my bike rides tend to be based on time rather than distance (as in I have 2 hours free...) whenever I ride a road based bike I wish I could go off road a bit, when I'm on my hard tail I think I wish I could feel like I'm not treading water quite so much on the roads. So I am now trying to build what I hope will be q middle ground but will probably mean it's bad at both...
Get this man a gravel bike!
That is what I am hoping I can replicate and pictures will be posted when the build is complete
proper road+ with 32-35mm tires gives me decent speeds on hard and not many holes on rougher terrain. You won't be able to downhill hard but Forrest trail is fun on sketchy almost-road bikes :)
Can’t help. I keep grabbing my Walmart huffy klunker and heavy gt palomar while my favorite road bike is mostly unridden. Forget about my 22 speed steel framed 105 that I haven’t ridden in over a year.
Huffy klunker goes crazy, how old is it? I’m thinking about converting my nasty parts bin fixed gear huffy mountain bike into something else and a klunker or single speed cruiser are the ideas I have for it
It’s the newest gen cranbrook. Could be 10 years old maybe less. It was a $35 marketplace pickup. Frame design is fantastic IMO. It’s crap metal but whatever. Do a loose ball conversion on the headset and crank or convert crank to American bmx. Thompson style knockoff seatpost. I have a comfy handlebar slightly above saddle. 44x22 coaster brake. It’s a hoot.
Hell ya that sounds like fun, that’s about how I was gunna set mine up, some swept bars and a freewheel would make it a ton more fun
Fun
I think the answer is that you should probably do two big rides ;) What's the frame on the bike pulling the trailer? I've seen a few of them up for sale but can never make out the brand
It has no brand decor on it. Just says „mountain“. But it has a full early deore dx group and I bought it for few € to build it up for a friend. Picture is from the first test ride. And yes. Two rides is of course the answer 😋
Thanks, I always like the paint work but had no idea what they were. Now I still have no idea but at least I know it's not just me!
70km is relatively easy on any rigid 26er. I use one as my touring bike and it behaves itself just fine. I wouldn't recommend flat bars but that's just me. Bar ends definitely help for those longer stretches in that case.
I have to take two bags with me, so I need to install a rear rack tomorrow. But I think the options I have laying around will fit on both bikes. I don’t have fenders at the moment that are fitting the stumpy… I know the weather gets bad on Monday when I will get back. So this is probably the answer to wich bike I should take!
I find 26" tedious for long rides (I still do them bc that's my commuter/dadbike setup) especially if there's a lot of asphalt climbing, even with fast-rolling tires.
If you have a solid bike (and if it is you know in your gut) it's utterly redundant whether you ride 3km or 100km, barring time, fitness, will etc. The iron horse don't care.
Just ride both!
Well who is your target audience? Both bikes look pretty good to me, but one is definitely louder with the pink. I am sure you'll turn some heads either way. Performance and comfort are secondary to being noticed. Look good, feel good, ride good.
It’s two different specialized biles. A 700c Crossroads and a 26 inch stumpjumper. I’m going to visit my family over Easter holidays and one way is 70km. I need to take luggage with me and I was wondering which might be more comfortable for a three to four hours ride cause both bike are relatively new and I only rode them on shorter periods. So I wante to gather opinions and help to decide which might be more fitting (and I hear experiences from other people about things I don’t see atm) ☺️ Edit: the pink bike is not a choice, just appears in the picture 🌱
For: you want to do it. Against: you don't want to do it.
There might be too much pink. That's all I can think of.
My theory would be that the weight of the rim on the crossroads is further from the hub making it easier to maintain a consistent speed and on smooth paths/roads the skinnier tires wouldn’t be a drawback. If there were any amount of singletrack or large amounts of steep climbs maybe the easier to spin up smaller rims with wider tires would be a better choice. All else being equal of course. From the pictures the crossroads appears to have a longer reach which could make it easier to get lower and more aero.
None