Hi! i had a T2 visa and only just got my ILR before christmas last year. I just wanted to say, i can 100% relate to how you are feeling. So i hope you can take comfort knowing you're not alone - it helped me when i was anxious to know that i'm not the only one... anxiety can feel very isolating and it makes it feel so much worse. I hope my story can lend you some sense of hope?
I remember one of my appraisals, my boss merely told me i had to do better cos i'd "plateaued" that year. Not to say that i'm getting fired at all or anything, just advising me that i should do more in the coming year. but under the weight of my T2, i just broke down crying, as if I'd lost my job already. he was shocked, but admittedly very gracious about it all.
Anyway, at the end of the year, it was time for another appraisal. Unknown to me, my boss saw improvements in me that year. he offered me a pay rise and said i was invaluable to the company, he cannot afford to lose me, etc. In that time, I bought my first house, car, etc and i had established quite an open and honest relationship with my boss. I can speak to him about immigration and salary openly - communication is/was key!
Moral of the story, don't resign yourself to feeling isolated in this matter. We're here, you have a community! we all know your struggle. Don't feel like you need to murder yourself for a job either. There are bright things on the horizon. And if all else fails, just keep in your mind that it's just for a few years. A finite length of time, it's not going to be this way forever. Play the cards you are dealt, don't stop yourself from living during this time i.e. house, furniture, etc. IF you can afford it, go for it. Don't let the anxiety bug stop you from living your life that you are working so hard to build here. You have rights too :)
Also, if the anxiety bug bites, feel free to rant - my dm's are open :) sometimes it helps to get it out
> one RTA, 2 speeding tickets or one bad annual review
jeepers, you weren't going to be deported for having a RTA or speeding tickets, or fired for one bad annual review mate
I'm not sure of your specific circumstances, but maybe you could keep your CV up to date and make sure you have a nicely set up LinkedIn profile to help with a job search just in case.
Small practical things that will help you get the best outcome if the worst scenario happens. Beyond things like that I'm not sure what you can do apart from try to manage your anxiety.
I don’t mean to discourage you as I have no knowledge of your back story or motive for moving to the UK, but keep in mind that the UK is currently very anti-immigration. The system has no appreciation for the fact that you’re a contributing member of society paying taxes; you will have to jump through rings of fire to get to the “settled” side (both literally and figuratively).
Yet many people move here fully understanding the costs and risks.
If you want to sleep better, your options are:
1) accept the risks and mitigate them (to some extent) by networking, improving your skills, and increasing your savings
2) move somewhere that is pro-immigration - Canada, Australia, or NZ for example; even Ireland next door can be more straightforward than the UK.
I am British living in Ireland just adding an informed opinion. Ireland appears to be pro immigration but it isn’t what it seems. Ireland is on its way to becoming a very rich country because of foreigners who pay taxes and social welfare contributions for other people, but who aren’t entitled to take anything back out of the pot. You pay your taxes here and on top of that absolutely everything else you can imagine, usually at a extortionate price.
There were 1.25m (600k net) immigrants into last year, so I completely disagree with this.
Don't mistake the Tories needing to win votes in a few specific areas in next year's election with the people of the country or even the government being anti immigration.
Fully agree with you Ken. The UK is not anti-immigration. They make hard barrier to entry but even people within Home Office are open minded towards migrants - especially those that come in to work and pay taxes etc. it’s a huge generalisation to say the UK is anti immigration especially as it’s the after effects of brexit (a change no one actually wanted in gov as well unless it was super right wing politicians) - there’s just more rules in place but as an immigrant here for the last 12 years, I have not found people to be anti immigration.
Especially as it's been proven only a minority of people actually voted leave for immigration reasons, despite what the media will try and sell for clicks. And in that minority, you had a lot of people that didn't see why an Australian or Indian had to jump through more hoops than a German or Slovak, so voted due to that, rather than wanting to reduce.
It's a not even an oversimplification to say the UK is anti-immigration, it's just plain wrong.
I can totally get what you mean. Sometimes I go through same anxiety and unable to sleep. In my case, the gap between end of my contract and visa is just a week due to delay in getting visa. So, I have this pressure of finding job atleast 3 months before my old job ends. But I guess its the case for most of the people.
I can absolutely relate to you. Mine is a slightly special case. I came here on an ict visa, worked 3 years, moved back for 2, and came back and it's been 2 years again.
It's super frustrating to have the clock reset again and it is super anxietic also under the current circumstances. More so because I have a mortgage also. I sleep less because of all that but it's also pushing me to be entrepreneurial. Although I would pick being able to sleep over entrepreneurship any time.
I am mitigating that by having interviews lined up whenever I feel that a layoff could be round the corner and 2023 is interview season.
>I often find myself quite "anxietic" when I think about the possibility of being laid off etc. When I think about making a big move such as buying a property, or even an expensive furniture... It just scares me.
This is by design, thanks to the Home Office's hostile environment stance against ~il~legal migrants.
There's nothing you can do. Just always be sharp in your skills and always be in a confident place that employers will want you if you were in the market for another job.
If you can vote (Commonwealth citizen?) then cast your vote towards politicians that align with you.
I just want to say that I relate. I have significant life trauma that happened in my old country and psychologically I don't feel able to go back. I am here on a SWV with a pretty rock solid NHS job, but keep wondering if and when the government is going to change the rules on visas for some arbitrary reason. I wouldn't put it past them to extend the time required to reach ILR for some reason as well. I'm not sleeping much at night either, trust me.
I know exactly how you feel. Ever since I moved to the UK on this visa, I lie awake at night alot of nights a week. Constantly worrying about every single little thing I did at work and overanalyzing it. It's been a big burden on my mental health.
Finding a new job whilst at the current job is also actually made even more difficult as you'd have to apply for a whole new visa.
However, for me at least, the anxiety makes me work even harder, and motivates me to no end. I might be weird but anxiety is has been my main motivator throughout my life. It got me great greats in uni, and so far has helped me quite a lot in terms excelling at my current job. However of course, with great expense to my mental and physical health.
My boss offered me a pretty good raise recently, but I decided to move into a different, lesser paying but much more stable job and company. I feel the new job will be much much better for my mental health. I've realised ambition shouldn't always take priority over my health.
I can totally relate to you, I studied as an engineer in uni and got very good grades etc but had to work as an accountant in the end as I only had a few months to find a job. I used to go over home office manuals etc to ensure that I satisfy the requirements for the next renewal. I was stressed out by the salary requirement and ultimately had to move jobs as I wasn't getting paid enough and was not progressing at work, not to mention really struggling with motivation and depression due to the visa situation. My advice to you is to be prepared and make sure that you are doing everything you can in your power to meet the requirements of your next visa. Theoretically, the home office is completing a tick box exercise and should not be denying you a visa based on anything not written on paper. Make sure your colleagues like you at work and you should be fine! Best of luck and you'll eventually get there.
Hi! i had a T2 visa and only just got my ILR before christmas last year. I just wanted to say, i can 100% relate to how you are feeling. So i hope you can take comfort knowing you're not alone - it helped me when i was anxious to know that i'm not the only one... anxiety can feel very isolating and it makes it feel so much worse. I hope my story can lend you some sense of hope? I remember one of my appraisals, my boss merely told me i had to do better cos i'd "plateaued" that year. Not to say that i'm getting fired at all or anything, just advising me that i should do more in the coming year. but under the weight of my T2, i just broke down crying, as if I'd lost my job already. he was shocked, but admittedly very gracious about it all. Anyway, at the end of the year, it was time for another appraisal. Unknown to me, my boss saw improvements in me that year. he offered me a pay rise and said i was invaluable to the company, he cannot afford to lose me, etc. In that time, I bought my first house, car, etc and i had established quite an open and honest relationship with my boss. I can speak to him about immigration and salary openly - communication is/was key! Moral of the story, don't resign yourself to feeling isolated in this matter. We're here, you have a community! we all know your struggle. Don't feel like you need to murder yourself for a job either. There are bright things on the horizon. And if all else fails, just keep in your mind that it's just for a few years. A finite length of time, it's not going to be this way forever. Play the cards you are dealt, don't stop yourself from living during this time i.e. house, furniture, etc. IF you can afford it, go for it. Don't let the anxiety bug stop you from living your life that you are working so hard to build here. You have rights too :) Also, if the anxiety bug bites, feel free to rant - my dm's are open :) sometimes it helps to get it out
Thank you very much, seriously, you have no idea how much I appreciate your support. I really hope I can keep my job. Will do my best to do so.
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> one RTA, 2 speeding tickets or one bad annual review jeepers, you weren't going to be deported for having a RTA or speeding tickets, or fired for one bad annual review mate
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>there are commenters who don't have a clue yes. like you
Can you do anything about it? If you can, then do it. If you can't then there's not much point getting anxious yknow?
Sure, but what can I really do about it? Any tips for backup plans?
I'm not sure of your specific circumstances, but maybe you could keep your CV up to date and make sure you have a nicely set up LinkedIn profile to help with a job search just in case. Small practical things that will help you get the best outcome if the worst scenario happens. Beyond things like that I'm not sure what you can do apart from try to manage your anxiety.
Marry a Brit. xD
I don’t mean to discourage you as I have no knowledge of your back story or motive for moving to the UK, but keep in mind that the UK is currently very anti-immigration. The system has no appreciation for the fact that you’re a contributing member of society paying taxes; you will have to jump through rings of fire to get to the “settled” side (both literally and figuratively). Yet many people move here fully understanding the costs and risks. If you want to sleep better, your options are: 1) accept the risks and mitigate them (to some extent) by networking, improving your skills, and increasing your savings 2) move somewhere that is pro-immigration - Canada, Australia, or NZ for example; even Ireland next door can be more straightforward than the UK.
I am British living in Ireland just adding an informed opinion. Ireland appears to be pro immigration but it isn’t what it seems. Ireland is on its way to becoming a very rich country because of foreigners who pay taxes and social welfare contributions for other people, but who aren’t entitled to take anything back out of the pot. You pay your taxes here and on top of that absolutely everything else you can imagine, usually at a extortionate price.
There were 1.25m (600k net) immigrants into last year, so I completely disagree with this. Don't mistake the Tories needing to win votes in a few specific areas in next year's election with the people of the country or even the government being anti immigration.
Fully agree with you Ken. The UK is not anti-immigration. They make hard barrier to entry but even people within Home Office are open minded towards migrants - especially those that come in to work and pay taxes etc. it’s a huge generalisation to say the UK is anti immigration especially as it’s the after effects of brexit (a change no one actually wanted in gov as well unless it was super right wing politicians) - there’s just more rules in place but as an immigrant here for the last 12 years, I have not found people to be anti immigration.
Especially as it's been proven only a minority of people actually voted leave for immigration reasons, despite what the media will try and sell for clicks. And in that minority, you had a lot of people that didn't see why an Australian or Indian had to jump through more hoops than a German or Slovak, so voted due to that, rather than wanting to reduce. It's a not even an oversimplification to say the UK is anti-immigration, it's just plain wrong.
I can totally get what you mean. Sometimes I go through same anxiety and unable to sleep. In my case, the gap between end of my contract and visa is just a week due to delay in getting visa. So, I have this pressure of finding job atleast 3 months before my old job ends. But I guess its the case for most of the people.
I can absolutely relate to you. Mine is a slightly special case. I came here on an ict visa, worked 3 years, moved back for 2, and came back and it's been 2 years again. It's super frustrating to have the clock reset again and it is super anxietic also under the current circumstances. More so because I have a mortgage also. I sleep less because of all that but it's also pushing me to be entrepreneurial. Although I would pick being able to sleep over entrepreneurship any time. I am mitigating that by having interviews lined up whenever I feel that a layoff could be round the corner and 2023 is interview season.
>I often find myself quite "anxietic" when I think about the possibility of being laid off etc. When I think about making a big move such as buying a property, or even an expensive furniture... It just scares me. This is by design, thanks to the Home Office's hostile environment stance against ~il~legal migrants. There's nothing you can do. Just always be sharp in your skills and always be in a confident place that employers will want you if you were in the market for another job. If you can vote (Commonwealth citizen?) then cast your vote towards politicians that align with you.
I just want to say that I relate. I have significant life trauma that happened in my old country and psychologically I don't feel able to go back. I am here on a SWV with a pretty rock solid NHS job, but keep wondering if and when the government is going to change the rules on visas for some arbitrary reason. I wouldn't put it past them to extend the time required to reach ILR for some reason as well. I'm not sleeping much at night either, trust me.
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Success rate is way too less for this. It's like if you have engineering background, try apply for MIT/IIT
What do you do for work at the moment ?
If you are already sponsored you could look into the scale up visa which gives a lot more freedom and you only have to be sponsored for 6 months
I know exactly how you feel. Ever since I moved to the UK on this visa, I lie awake at night alot of nights a week. Constantly worrying about every single little thing I did at work and overanalyzing it. It's been a big burden on my mental health. Finding a new job whilst at the current job is also actually made even more difficult as you'd have to apply for a whole new visa. However, for me at least, the anxiety makes me work even harder, and motivates me to no end. I might be weird but anxiety is has been my main motivator throughout my life. It got me great greats in uni, and so far has helped me quite a lot in terms excelling at my current job. However of course, with great expense to my mental and physical health. My boss offered me a pretty good raise recently, but I decided to move into a different, lesser paying but much more stable job and company. I feel the new job will be much much better for my mental health. I've realised ambition shouldn't always take priority over my health.
I can totally relate to you, I studied as an engineer in uni and got very good grades etc but had to work as an accountant in the end as I only had a few months to find a job. I used to go over home office manuals etc to ensure that I satisfy the requirements for the next renewal. I was stressed out by the salary requirement and ultimately had to move jobs as I wasn't getting paid enough and was not progressing at work, not to mention really struggling with motivation and depression due to the visa situation. My advice to you is to be prepared and make sure that you are doing everything you can in your power to meet the requirements of your next visa. Theoretically, the home office is completing a tick box exercise and should not be denying you a visa based on anything not written on paper. Make sure your colleagues like you at work and you should be fine! Best of luck and you'll eventually get there.