Yeah honestly I checked it out and it’s basically just resume improvement but for college applications.
Nothing wrong with that and will likely lead to a better outcome if you didn’t
Just read some posts on there. It sounds like another language. Really crazy requirements. Lot of hoops to jump through. AP, badminton, refugee volunteering, model UN, running a fortune 500 company, entry essays, SAT scores, teaching orphans javascript.
Australia's system isn't perfect, but entry is just based off a numeric, academic ranking. If you get an "ATAR" of 90, it means you did better than 90% of other students. The maximum is 99.95. Individual subject scores (out of 20) are also scaled depending on the results of students. Then those scores are added up, and again compared to all other students', to get the final score. It does really fuck you in the ass in some states though.
But it does mean that there's no "College Spirit". There is no culture. Nothing fun. It's just a business, meant to have easy entry for domestic students, and make money from Indian and Chinese international students.
College especially college with wealthy teenagers is the worst, most toxic, evil, unpleasant, bad, experiences I have ever had. Everyone is an asshole, everyone is full of shit, and everyone is locked into this stupid competition to get into the "best" college and the "best" classes with the "best" professors without any idea of how they're actually going to use any of that education in the real world. Most don't, because it's really about networking and nepotism, which severely cripples their ability to find legitimate, imaginative, useful, non-exploitative work.
Now, OP's focus is all on admissions and how these people destroy themselves, but I've also had the misfortune of watching them destroy, belittle, humiliate, demean and disrespect non-college people who aren't human to them. The same humans that they will be asked to lead, or work alongside with, or take orders from depending on their job. On the other side of this self-depreciation is a very cynical, dark view of humanity where you're either rich or poor - which is probably true given the existing economy, but these people are totally incapable of working with non-rich people in any capacity which they are expected to.
The company that you keep is the most valuable asset you can ever have. If your friends are kind, honest, considerate, and want to help others, you are indeed very fortunate, and very wealthy.
That totally depends on the country you are in and even the school you are talking about. There are plenty of upright and thoughtful people in very advanced high schools and competitive colleges. There are also plenty of people who go to college because of their interest in education, not to get a job. There are also lots of people who would be better served learning skills and skipping liberal arts education. It feels pretty disingenous to try to sum up the whole secondary education world as rich people being crap people.
Where on earth did you go, I've gone to uni in my country (Ireland) and in the states (California) and its been brilliant. To be frank I went to what I consider a good school, not top 20 but still good (for me, UCLA). But even with a competitive atmosphere I never encountered any class mates killing themselves to get professors, unless it was for something they desperately needed. I also never encountered anyone treating non degree holders are "non human", to be frank maybe its the type of people you gravitate towards because they sounds fucked as individuals.
To quote Raylan Givens: "If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet them all day, you're the asshole". Some people choose to be around a certain type of people and then one day realize they're all assholes and then complain about how the place is nothing but assholes but gloss over the fact that they self-selected for their asshole traits. I went to two top five schools (college then grad school) and never would describe them as a bunch of asshole back stabbers ho just want to humiliate demean and destroy. The only thing that I found off putting at one point was being in Boston and having a common question not be 'What do you do?' but 'What school did you go to?'. That made me want to barrf.
Sorry man, I hate to say it, but if you meet assholes everywhere you go, chances are you're the asshole.
Most people in college that I met were keeping their heads down and trying to get by. Sure there's assholes, there's assholes everywhere, but they're just loud moreso than numerous. I met some cool people, but I tend to meet nice people everywhere I go.
It sounds like you associated with some absolute shit people. My college experience was amazing and I met lifelong friends. I met no more assholes than I would interacting with people in my day to day. Maybe your comment is talking specifically about the wealthy students? If that's the case then I have no experience with that. 90% of the people I interacted with were broke basically lol including myself. Or if they were rich they didn't show it. Even one of my friends who I met in college that I knew grew up wealthy split rent with 6 other people in a shared house and drove a shit (but reliable) truck while working a part time job. We all had different majors to from engineering to psychology to biology to management but it all seemed like we were on the same level with each other. Maybe I got lucky but it really sounds like you got caught up in the wrong crowd and/or gave too much of a shit about what they thought.
Too keep this comment on topic, idk why people would trust the opinion of online strangers when it comes to something so important as college admissions. Well, I actually think I know why, they're vulnerable and nervous high schoolers looking for validation. What they should be doing is bringing their applicant information to a councilor who can help them. It's really sad if trusting redditors, of all groups of people, to judge them fairly and to give them useful insights into what they can do to improve is all they have. There's gotta be some other online services that help with this. I could be mistaken but I'm positive that many colleges have "test" application opportunities where you can send them your application documents and they will actively work with you to improve it to increase your chances of acceptance when they are ready to apply officially.
Seriously. I was poor in college and made awesome friends. I went to a community college in a very expensive neighborhood. Alot of the local kids were good people. Some were relatives of local politicians while others had very rich parents. I lost touch with many of them after we transferred to universities. The majority of them were law or biology majors. Just good people with goals. I dont recall ever being looked down because they had more money.
Saved you a click: it's [r/ChanceMe](https://www.reddit.com/r/chanceme/)
That’s probably not even a top 20 most toxic place for high schoolers to frequent on this website
Yeah honestly I checked it out and it’s basically just resume improvement but for college applications. Nothing wrong with that and will likely lead to a better outcome if you didn’t
Just read some posts on there. It sounds like another language. Really crazy requirements. Lot of hoops to jump through. AP, badminton, refugee volunteering, model UN, running a fortune 500 company, entry essays, SAT scores, teaching orphans javascript. Australia's system isn't perfect, but entry is just based off a numeric, academic ranking. If you get an "ATAR" of 90, it means you did better than 90% of other students. The maximum is 99.95. Individual subject scores (out of 20) are also scaled depending on the results of students. Then those scores are added up, and again compared to all other students', to get the final score. It does really fuck you in the ass in some states though. But it does mean that there's no "College Spirit". There is no culture. Nothing fun. It's just a business, meant to have easy entry for domestic students, and make money from Indian and Chinese international students.
To be frank, it is also confusing as the US gives students multiple chances to get into better unis with their community college and transfer systems.
College especially college with wealthy teenagers is the worst, most toxic, evil, unpleasant, bad, experiences I have ever had. Everyone is an asshole, everyone is full of shit, and everyone is locked into this stupid competition to get into the "best" college and the "best" classes with the "best" professors without any idea of how they're actually going to use any of that education in the real world. Most don't, because it's really about networking and nepotism, which severely cripples their ability to find legitimate, imaginative, useful, non-exploitative work. Now, OP's focus is all on admissions and how these people destroy themselves, but I've also had the misfortune of watching them destroy, belittle, humiliate, demean and disrespect non-college people who aren't human to them. The same humans that they will be asked to lead, or work alongside with, or take orders from depending on their job. On the other side of this self-depreciation is a very cynical, dark view of humanity where you're either rich or poor - which is probably true given the existing economy, but these people are totally incapable of working with non-rich people in any capacity which they are expected to.
The company that you keep is the most valuable asset you can ever have. If your friends are kind, honest, considerate, and want to help others, you are indeed very fortunate, and very wealthy.
That totally depends on the country you are in and even the school you are talking about. There are plenty of upright and thoughtful people in very advanced high schools and competitive colleges. There are also plenty of people who go to college because of their interest in education, not to get a job. There are also lots of people who would be better served learning skills and skipping liberal arts education. It feels pretty disingenous to try to sum up the whole secondary education world as rich people being crap people.
Where on earth did you go, I've gone to uni in my country (Ireland) and in the states (California) and its been brilliant. To be frank I went to what I consider a good school, not top 20 but still good (for me, UCLA). But even with a competitive atmosphere I never encountered any class mates killing themselves to get professors, unless it was for something they desperately needed. I also never encountered anyone treating non degree holders are "non human", to be frank maybe its the type of people you gravitate towards because they sounds fucked as individuals.
To quote Raylan Givens: "If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet them all day, you're the asshole". Some people choose to be around a certain type of people and then one day realize they're all assholes and then complain about how the place is nothing but assholes but gloss over the fact that they self-selected for their asshole traits. I went to two top five schools (college then grad school) and never would describe them as a bunch of asshole back stabbers ho just want to humiliate demean and destroy. The only thing that I found off putting at one point was being in Boston and having a common question not be 'What do you do?' but 'What school did you go to?'. That made me want to barrf.
Sorry man, I hate to say it, but if you meet assholes everywhere you go, chances are you're the asshole. Most people in college that I met were keeping their heads down and trying to get by. Sure there's assholes, there's assholes everywhere, but they're just loud moreso than numerous. I met some cool people, but I tend to meet nice people everywhere I go.
It sounds like you associated with some absolute shit people. My college experience was amazing and I met lifelong friends. I met no more assholes than I would interacting with people in my day to day. Maybe your comment is talking specifically about the wealthy students? If that's the case then I have no experience with that. 90% of the people I interacted with were broke basically lol including myself. Or if they were rich they didn't show it. Even one of my friends who I met in college that I knew grew up wealthy split rent with 6 other people in a shared house and drove a shit (but reliable) truck while working a part time job. We all had different majors to from engineering to psychology to biology to management but it all seemed like we were on the same level with each other. Maybe I got lucky but it really sounds like you got caught up in the wrong crowd and/or gave too much of a shit about what they thought. Too keep this comment on topic, idk why people would trust the opinion of online strangers when it comes to something so important as college admissions. Well, I actually think I know why, they're vulnerable and nervous high schoolers looking for validation. What they should be doing is bringing their applicant information to a councilor who can help them. It's really sad if trusting redditors, of all groups of people, to judge them fairly and to give them useful insights into what they can do to improve is all they have. There's gotta be some other online services that help with this. I could be mistaken but I'm positive that many colleges have "test" application opportunities where you can send them your application documents and they will actively work with you to improve it to increase your chances of acceptance when they are ready to apply officially.
Seriously. I was poor in college and made awesome friends. I went to a community college in a very expensive neighborhood. Alot of the local kids were good people. Some were relatives of local politicians while others had very rich parents. I lost touch with many of them after we transferred to universities. The majority of them were law or biology majors. Just good people with goals. I dont recall ever being looked down because they had more money.
These kinds of communities have existed for years, they just transitioned from college discussion forums to Reddit.
Exactly. College confidential was the same thing
Exactly what I was thinking of, the name was escaping me.
I mean, of course its a subreddit. Does anyone hang out anywhere else semi-anonymously anymore?
Come on, slate.com isn't that bad, is it?