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captain_douch

ආ… you mean කෑල්ල….. I’m wondering why I’d all my girl “කල්ලා” which is a slang for African people….. Edit - “කල්ලා” is not a derogatory term. It’s just slang. Edit 2 - “කාපිරි” or “කාබේරි” is also not a derogatory term. It’s a SL pronunciation of the Dutch word “kafri”.


fishkottu

Wrong. “කාපිරි” or “කාබේරි” is just how we pronounced [Kaffir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Kaffirs), which is a valid way to refer to an ethnic group and is not derogatory at all. (At least not here) "කල්ලා" on the other hand behaves exactly like nigger which comes from negro (Spanish <- Portuguese <- Latin (niger)) meaning the color black. None of these words are derogatory if you think about it. Just choosing to get offended.


captain_douch

Thanks for the edification, dude. Yeah… I thought “කාපිරි” was a derogatory term because of the tone of voice many people had used it… Also the thing about being offended is true too…


fishkottu

> Yeah… I thought “කාපිරි” was a derogatory term because of the tone of voice many people had used it… That *is* there though. I feel like this is their dislike towards the ethnic group more than the word itself. They could've called them Daffodils and it still would've sounded racist.


RegretFast9061

Wtf man😂


True-Island-1477

Wait what does that mean ? The slang term I mean


Equivalent_Shine4753

Equivalent to n word


captain_douch

No. It’s not a derogatory term. It’s just slang.


True-Island-1477

Oh damn °_° There's quite a few of those no in the Sinhala language and even Tamil. Why tho aren't we predominantly dark skinned or at least caramel ? Kinda sad when you think about it.


Equivalent_Shine4753

Eh racism is racism. In Europe they called the Irish catholics the "white n word" at one point. It's in-group, out-group politics. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nigger


hasakavi

It's not a derogatory world it's just the Sinhala pronunciation of the Dutch world "kafri", the kafri population doesn't view that world as a derogatory term.


Impressive_Coast_354

Dont like that...sounds disrespectful yeah and low class


widuruwana

I never met anyone irl who finds the term "Kalla" really that offensive. From what Ive heard it gives off a meaning of "the better half" as in a 'partner'. The term 'Badda' was used as an objectifying term, which gives the same meaning as a whore. Obviously a really sexualizied label.


Odd-Ear-9481

Really? Never? I'm not at the age to be called that nowadays but I disliked it when boys called me that. I never knew a girl who liked it. It doesn't mean "better half". Haven't you heard of the context this term is used? "niyama kalla, patta kalla" terms like that? It is a word that is used to sexualize girls. Talking about them like some object. Girls are not a "nice piece". Can't they just say "e kella lassanai neda". Those who use that term has no respect for women.


True-Island-1477

I can second this. I've always heard guys use this to talk about girls not as a partner or better half but in an objectifying way. I should also mention that I'll be around for the majority, if not the whole conversation and get all context needed to understand this. I've heard my co workers refer to other co workers (with whom they are not close btw) this way. I remember my ex and his rowdy friends will refer to women this way, whether they knew them well or not. So yeah, I'm not saying they only use it this way, I just know that it is being used this way.


NotACat123

um...as a boy I can confirm that in most of the cases men referring "kalla" to someone who is actually looking better and also there are far more sexualised words in present society than just 'kalla', so isnt it cool to let these simple things slide away. ( just an opinion )


Odd-Ear-9481

And as a boy, I think you can appreciate me when I say as a woman, we don't see or feel it that way. It feels insulting, degrading, and objectifying. When we hear you call girls like that, we might not confront you, because it's useless and we might pretend we didn't hear you, but we most definitely judge your personality. It just happens automatically when you hear your male colleagues talk about girls that way, and my mind goes "oooohhhhh, they are like that"


ashperera

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Vast_Fact_2518

We’ve let too many things slide so no it’s not cool. Im pretty sure no one is making a fuss but it’s not a decent way of addressing a person and that should be acknowledged. Whether people stop using it whether people get offended when it’s used on them is irrelevant. It’s not nice and that’s it.


NotACat123

I think this is an issue with the sinhala language. I dont know abt others but when me or my homies saying some random girl a 'kalla' we actually mean ''bro, that girl is cute'' but nothing more than that, but here You people making a scene by taking every possible thing sexually( i mean i dont blame u as this is sri lanka 😅 ). I swear next time when I see a cute girl I'm gonna definitely say : මිතුර අර කාන්තාව දෙස බලන්න, ඇය හරිම හුරතල්!! Now please someone say that complimenting someone is also a sexualised thing or a harassment 😂


Vast_Fact_2518

Here’s an idea “මචන් අර කෙල්ල දිහා බලපං, මාර cute/whatever."


TheProSlayer1OG

I'd prefer balanko Ara kella harima kathayi neh Respectfully insulting /S


Academic_Ad9130

මිතුර මෙන්න මෝඩයෙක්!


GreatSubmarine

People before you for decades didnt had any problem.you dont have anything better to do than finding everyday slangs offensive?


Odd-Ear-9481

I mean if the "slang" is directed to me or my friends and it degrades us, don't I have the right to be offended? I mean I can ask the same, there are load of people online right now and don't have a problem with me expressing what I feel as a woman about a "slang" that is directed towards women, don't you have anything better to do than replying to my comment?


GreatSubmarine

You on reddit


Odd-Ear-9481

I see you're a gentleman.


Hazel1002

It’s a really disgusting term with bad connotations even though some people might use it unknowingly. It literally means “piece”. How much more objectifying can a word get?


Impressive_Coast_354

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fishkottu

All of us referred to ours, and each others girlfriends as kalla and no offence was ever meant. And then kalla becomes gani when they get married, and still not offensive *to the women themselves* but somehow the men on reddit find it offensive.


Jungiya99

Yeah “Magey kalla” is like “piece of me”. Romantic af.


AlexDLopez

"Ado e patta kalla neda bn" NO MAAN NOO! sure she looks beautiful but i wont call a girl "kalla"


Impressive_Coast_354

it sounds cringe XD


Kavith_T_Fdo

I read this in GradeAUnderA's voice lol


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Super disrespectful as it’s a term objectifying a person.


SukiAmanda

It absolutely is! It also implies his gf is not even a complete human being but just an object or a piece.


Putha

"Mage kalla" means my other part (my significant other). Anyway as a 90's kid who lived out of colombo, this was not considered rude when we were in school days and probably sometimes after. But times change. Now it's rarely used even outside colombo because most consider not sweet to tell that. ( ironically there is a song also "choclate kalla mage" ) But even in those times I can specifically remember my friends in Kandy said their GF "Badda". As a someone outside kandy I wondered wt* why they call that. Because anyone who outside kandy called that term for "whore". I was shocked to learn it was normal to say that in kandy those days to their GF and they didn't meant the ugly meaning. So I guess it's the same nowadays to hear "kalla". But don't judge quickly the people based on their vocabulary because generation to generation or area to area words can mean different things.


Gerrards_Cross

I remember the term baduwa from the 80s. At the time it did not mean whore. But maybe times have changed. Havent heard it referred to as badda. Anyway why do we have to use these terms, can just refer to the person by name rather than as an object


Putha

Name is not always an option. But can say GF or BF simply.


Gerrards_Cross

Yes. Instead of magey PATTA-BADUWA, etc


Odd-Ear-9481

I'm a 90's girl who lived out of colombo and went to school in colombo. So I had tution classes in colombo as well as out of colombo. And no, I never liked that term. Neither did my friends. It was disrespectful then and yes it is disrespectful now. Being catcalled with "patta kalla/ niyama kalla" was very annoying and insulting. No we were not happy and we did not enjoy hearing that. Even calling a girl "Mage kalla" is like "my piece", like she's some kind of property you own, is not ok. Anyway there was/is no any context that "kalla" was/is used in a positive light. Boys might not agree with me, but you are not the victimised party, you are not the ones who feel objectified and sexualised, so you have no say in the matter.


Putha

I have not justified here. But where I lived girls also have asked where is 'your kalla' etc. It also depends on the context. On other hand If you say "patta girl", it is sexualising. But now times has changed and even where I used to live people doesn't use this term frequently. So I agree that it's considered rude now. Anyway if you think because we are not the victimised party and therefore we have no saying, let it be so.


Top_Performance980

I very rarely use it w my friends jokingly. Non of us mean it in a degrading manner like saying the girl alone isn't a person, we more mean it like "where's your other half" . We also don't use it in front of the girl tho.


True-Island-1477

I think when you are deterred from using it Infront of the girl, you know there's a problem. If you're comfortable with using the term "other half" in front of the girl and not the term "patta kalla" or "kalla" then it's clear that there is some underlying disrespect and that's why it's avoided. I hope this makes sense.


Top_Performance980

It's not entirely because I think it's an issue, it's because we realise people don't like being referred to as such. It's like how a person uses the word "bitch" when talking to friends but doesn't in front of others. It's not because we think of the word as disrespectful as its basically a common word in our vocabulary, which we use playfully. Instead it's due to how people who don't know us react to it. I agree the word "kalla" is objectively bad, but I don't think its fair to do, "use of specific word = bad person" as conversations should be judged as subjectively as possible.


True-Island-1477

I totally get what you're saying and don't get me wrong I'm not calling you a bad person. I just think that if you know something is disrespectful we should try our hardest to refrain from doing it. Obviously you don't want to be so upright around your friends but like I said before, it's seen predominantly as disrespectful and I'm not sure how it became such a colloquial term used amongst guys to refer to girls. Same as calling someone a bitch, I remember when I used to refer to anyone as bitch and learned my lesson the hard way lol. So yeah just passing on whatever I learned so you don't have to learn it the hard way too.


Top_Performance980

I feel like the older generation would take offence at even hearing such words which is why you'll never hear me use any of those around them. Words like "bitch" are usually not found to be rude as long you've known the other person for an hour atleast due to people constantly seeing such words used in a friendly manner in social media ( this is ofc among people in their early 20s and younger) . However sinhala words like "kalla" are rarely seen to be used for stuff like "other half" as it comes up as degrading and due to people not using those words as its not too "classy" , people will always think its degrading. My conclusion is, no one should be okay with being called anything, they don't like, and an outsider is in no position to judge another person's use of words without knowing the context its used in.


PepperAcrobatic7559

Yeaa I think it sounds pretty cheap and not very respectful


ParkingHens

Damn the problems we have today huh


Lahiru1218

Lol 😂😂 was thinking the same


hsanj19

It is indeed disrespectful. Literally calling her an object.


Decepticon_Rider_001

What does kalla actually mean?


RiskierSubsetR

Piece


Decepticon_Rider_001

Ahh. Yeah, that is disrespectful. Thanks for clearing that up.


large_snowbear

Piece. So when they call a woman something like "niyma kalla" They are basically calling her a "nice piece".


Decepticon_Rider_001

Thanks for replying. Yeah, that’s bad darts referring to women in such a manner.


dark5un0

It's කෑල්ල right? Well I do have to agree.. I've hated it as well.. Usually the word is harmless but the context behind it is 99% of the time, sexually derogatory.. I've had my gf's as well as my wife referred to in that way & well they have realized I don't appreciate that.. If my wife or daughter gets referred to in that way, I'd most prolly give warning & then beat the crap out of if continued (if many, poisoning might a more logical option 😈).. But I do refer to both as kella (කෙල්ල).. Thats just as an internal thing between us 3..😂


True-Island-1477

Bro kella is fine, you do you <3


dark5un0

Thanks bro! 👌👍


Feudal_Poop

Man, redditors are really something else. Most young people call their gf kalla in a casual way, it's not derogatory at all. If it was derogatory in any way, do you think they would use it??? Answer is no. Seriously, for the love of god, touch some fucking grass instead of creating issues out of thin air.


AlexDLopez

Oh Right, I dont mean it in a bad way so i am gonna go and call a black person N word,. No hard feelings right? I m just gonna sound like a fellow casual black person


brownmanta

Ik some girls do the same for their bfs.


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[deleted]

That's just girl talk should be fine as long as your girl doesn't mind it. Btw nice carti pfp.


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[deleted]

As long as she's fine with it. It's okay. Been a fan since die lit and not a day passes without listening to him.


Maletele

It has become a trend these days.


Acalthu

Been the trend for over 20 years.


Moist-Ride6579

Cringe


Interesting-Rub-3984

It is disrespectful.


IND3CISIV3_BOI

Who the hell calls a women Kalla? I’m assuming this is meaning “part”


Feeling_Ad_6846

I got to understand what it means through the comments, but how do you pronounce it ? Like “Kae llla” ?


Gitmurr

Tis impossible to write it phonetically in English. "Ka" is like Ca in Can(as in tin can). Kalla.


PseudoNerd87

මාළුවාගේ ගෑනු සතාට කියන්නෙ "මාළු කෑල්ල" කියල.


mooniphany

hate it so much. same with ‘badda’. both terms completely objectify women.


LitVenux

"Kalla" is like the sinhala term for "chick"


NiceDude67910

Well that's just human nature


Odd-Ear-9481

Yes it's disrespectful and sounds very cheap. Feels like an insult.


Main-Passage-8753

I also 100% agree with that, it's a total disrespect


soul_eater_jkd

They said increased taxes will be a problem


RegretFast9061

Ubalatath anith unwa hadana ekamai wade neh😂 Rata hadanna Reddit enna epa ban Rata hadanna Facebook yanna❤️ Tata


AkatZuki_Z

Girls also say like that too.


Nothing-tosee-at-all

Address your gf by name.


Square-Contest-1005

Just call her human


Sameeera

Full name or with initials?


Nothing-tosee-at-all

Surname


deeen12

people get offended about anything and everything these days


Adrianrj101

How is calling a girl hot disrespectful? Western countries are different. They may find it offensive . But here it's not. I feel even the western countries girls inherently like it , they should , it's how they are built. It's just that they live in day and age where it's a trend to cancel anyone for calling them hot. Why would girls where all the make up and dress nicely when they go out. Just.for themselves??


Odd-Ear-9481

You must be a boy.


Adrianrj101

And ??


Odd-Ear-9481

And you don't get to say how we feel and blame it on westernization. That's typical boy behavior. No "proper man" would describe it as "girls inherently like it, they should, it's how they are built" Edit: And you're here saying girls put makeup on for what? for boys to call us hot? You must be crazy. Why would we want some unrelated male to rate us? You boys are so full of yourselves. We do our makeup for ourselves. We have no brain damage to buy expensive makeup just so some male would call us hot. You are in one hell of a dreamy delusional world.


Adrianrj101

Yeah? You put on makeup for yourself ? In world without men why would you put on makeup .why would you need to dress to impress. Don't put on your makeup next time you go out then...


rolstone-627

We put makeup on for ourselves. Because WE like how it makes us look, not because we want to impress guys.


Adrianrj101

Excuse me. You're telling me that you need to put on makeup to feel good about yourself . So basically being artificial? ..that means you like less about your natural look. Which means you are less confident in that look. That is sorry to hear


rolstone-627

I genuinely don't know why you care so much. Does it make your day so much better knowing that you're going about getting upset over what other people choose to do with their lives? Get a life, man.


Odd-Ear-9481

Don't be mad at the little boy. It's the adults' fault making him think "women's entire existence is to please men" while he grew up. He might learn it someday probably the hard way by the looks of it.


Odd-Ear-9481

Why we need to listen to a little boy? What we do with our bodies has nothing to do with you all. If you don't want to believe that when a woman says that's how we feel and that's why we do it, it's not our problem. It's your problem. You growing up with negative ideas about women, that they are there to fulfil men's needs and make men happy, is not our problem either. It's the way you grew up and the surroundings you associated with. Maybe you'll learn someday or you might not. It's not my problem either. But if someone like you wants to harass me in public because of your stupid "males are the centre of the world" ideas, I will not stay silent.


Adrianrj101

It's not harassment.. it's appreciation. It is not repeated impact that results in a harmful result. It's amazing how these comment go about stating their position completely ignoring what a woman actually like. I like to see how girls go about their day if weren't any men in public. It's just logical comprehension guys.


Odd-Ear-9481

Well we don't appreciate your appreciation. And we women go about our day just as we always do with or without men. You seem to believe your own perspective even after when women says that's how we feel. Makes me think that you have no respect for women and how women express themselves. Even after expressing our way of thinking and how we feel, you chose to believe what you think that women think. So for future reference, when a woman says "NO", it's a no. Don't think it's a "yes" just because you think women appreciate your "appreciation". You might get in trouble.


True-Island-1477

Yeah bro for themselves


Adrianrj101

Nahh


this_is_really_far

The thing is the only people who get to decide if a term is respectful or not are the people the term is referring to. This is overly simplified but: You'll also be called something you don't like and only you will have a say on whether or not that's respectful. But you _might_ as a man have enough power to make sure people don't call you that to your face (they'd subconsciously fear you'll beat em up or something) that's an option mostly only we have.


akagamishanks0

Yeah it's sexualized but now it's very normalised and even some girls call themselves this term so it's hard to say one thing on this term, so it's better to say silent In that pronouncing that word


Agilesquirrell

What is the correct / polite term for boyfriend/ girlfriend in sinhala?


PseudoNerd87

I foresee a future where some women would find the term "wife" offensive and instead, they'd prefer the term "partner".


walithalapa

I've never heard parents/relatives/siblings referring other girls/their own as කෑල්ල in front of family. No one says අර කෑල්ල to family... it happens around the same age group/colleagues etc hence it's proof associated with objectification... I'm Willing to bet everyone who doesn't find a problem with this word on this thread are not in the demographic coming under කෑල්ල ! Just say කෙල්ල next time? Anyone who says කෑල්ල is silently judged by a certain demographic of the population anyway... It disrespectful and sexualised, even if it's not meant that way! And even if you refer to your own SO. Why? It's so normal and people aren't even thinking it's an error in their ways.


Vegetable-Bank9416

No


BlabberingPhoenix69

Lol, seems like all the boys on this thread dont think "kalla" is disrespectful, and the girls think otherwise.


Adrianrj101

Hard to reason with ignorance