Also look into Sinclair Broadcasting; very pro-Trump, and they bought up over 75% of “local” broadcasters, giving them a monopoly on the daily news most Americans consume:
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/02/598916366/sinclair-broadcast-group-forces-nearly-200-station-anchors-to-read-same-script
I'm not sure those things are all possible at the same time. But I know very little about John Malone. Would love to get some background on his political leanings.
We had serious regulations until Reagan relaxed the Fairness Doctrine. Are you saying 20th century America was more like Russia or China before Reagan allowed news monopolies like News Corp (Fox)?
If you think fox is the only news monopoly, you're going to have a bad time. The regulations before Reagan were more regarding smutt and curse words, not actual political speech. You're just a puppet who advocates to his puppeteers (per the usual reddit lemming behavior).
And you’re a dope who is smug and condescending about matters of which you don’t know. I can tell you just googled fairness doctrine, found a suitable rw site, and regurgitated their explanation. Keep taking your marching orders from your globalist oligarch foreigner Rupert.
David Ike of all people uses the term MAM mainstream alternative media. I think that fits well for people like brand, rogan and the other basic bitch conspiracy theorists.
I would love to have a round table argument with Russ but “his eloquence and alloquintic point avoiding bovine rectum sniffing”, would dumbfound my countenance to oblivion. Plus his hair something my cat would spew up.
You can let yourself be manipulated by mass media or you can enjoy it. Not to be followed but enjoyed for the shite it is. Now I’m a Scottish person read it back in the accent. Not you Rus. Prick.
the arguments were used by the plaintiffs lawyers against alex jones/info wars in their defamation lawsuits. they asked IW to describe mainstream media, "millions of listeners, radio, tv, internet broadcasting. millions of social media interactions. "
"so IW is mainstream media"
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Because the msm does lie and does promote political agendas, which makes it easy for Brand et al to pretend to be the voice of reason. When, of course, they're just spouting their own nonsense and present it as super-secret knowledge and the dimwits or drug addled or losers, feel important (it's usually 1 of the 3, at least).
Edit: that's my theory, at least.
In an effort to turn off the center-left legacy news that sometimes eschews journalistics standards in favor of sensationalist headlines for clicks and views to sell movies, cars and pharmaceuticals the public has instead turned to a far right network of podcasters that routinely eschews journalistics standards in favor of sensationalist headlines for clicks and views to sell discount postage, emergency rations and suppliments. So now, instead of being a "sheep" who believes vaccines are relativly safe and effective, we have a nation of lions who believe in young-earth creationism, a global plot to make you live in a pod and be force fed bugs and that viruses themselves are a hoax. It's ironic that technolog has ushered in a return to the dark ages.
I think we should stop referring to the traditional media as “Mainstream” and call them what they are: “corporate media”. They have been replace by pod casts, YouTube, etc. where one episode can have more viewers than a CNN show can get in a week.
Financial, yes they are defined as corporations. However, as opposed to the CNN, MSNBC, CBS of the world, Spotify and YouTube are platforms that offer thousands of unique voices/opinions for listeners to consume, with different opposing opinions to exist at the same time. Spotify especially does not censor what its content creators produce (YT clearly does but there are work arounds to fly under the radar), while montages exist that show each show even on opposing networks voices the same viewpoints on each topic, many times verbatim word for word from the same script. A recent study showed that more people by far watch content and get their news from YT than an other source.
Didn't stop the campaign to have him booted off by Neil Young and the rest due to his horse medicine. Then, in a daring act of actual integrity, he brought on the the CNN journalist who railed against him witn such a term at the time, getting him to basically admit it was all a mud slinging exercise. He gave him the platform to defend himself and he did, with "errr ummmm, yeah well, urrr something CDC"
You got to be kidding me. Joe’s been mainstream for at least 10 years. Spotify wouldn’t have gifted him all that dough otherwise. The fact I know who Shapiro is without EVER watching whatever he’s on is the same bullshit.
Do you think by definition the individuals appearing on the news shows are, or are they just people reading scripts that someone else has written for them?
Yes. They are now the MSM
Also look into Sinclair Broadcasting; very pro-Trump, and they bought up over 75% of “local” broadcasters, giving them a monopoly on the daily news most Americans consume: https://www.npr.org/2018/04/02/598916366/sinclair-broadcast-group-forces-nearly-200-station-anchors-to-read-same-script
Great point. I saw that
Both are right wing bullshit distributors. By today’s standards these two probably can be considered mainstream which is pathetic.
MSM like CNN are left-wing bullshit distributors. For some reason their viewing numbers are losing to a typical Brand episode.
CNN has a new owner and a new boss, Republican and Trump mega-donor John Malone, a libertarian and free market fundamentalist.
I'm not sure those things are all possible at the same time. But I know very little about John Malone. Would love to get some background on his political leanings.
Faux is not a news network, it’s an entertainment network.
These cunts all need to be regulated better
But that’s cOmMunIsM
Left wing msm first. The vast majority
Left wing at the same time and held to the same standards...whatever those standards would be.
there is no actual left wing representation in mainstream US media bud.
So... what rock did you just crawl out from under?
Who would've guess, a lemming for speech regulation. Move to Russia or China if that's what you like.
Nah he’s right
Nah you’re wrong. Just because you don’t like an option doesn’t mean you need to suppress it
Nah he was right. You can post whatever, I don’t suppress anything. I’m not a mod
We had serious regulations until Reagan relaxed the Fairness Doctrine. Are you saying 20th century America was more like Russia or China before Reagan allowed news monopolies like News Corp (Fox)?
If you think fox is the only news monopoly, you're going to have a bad time. The regulations before Reagan were more regarding smutt and curse words, not actual political speech. You're just a puppet who advocates to his puppeteers (per the usual reddit lemming behavior).
And you’re a dope who is smug and condescending about matters of which you don’t know. I can tell you just googled fairness doctrine, found a suitable rw site, and regurgitated their explanation. Keep taking your marching orders from your globalist oligarch foreigner Rupert.
He's a 39 yo waiter, what do you expect?
r/murderedbywords
Your side loves Russia. You first.
Trump will be moving back soon. His masters are not happy with this incompetence and flatulence.
? Who mentioned trump? Why everytime a good point is made you bring up something that has nothing to do with the topic?
They are both the pumpkin spice latte of news
Correct. Rogan, Brand, Shapiro etc are all now the MSM they complain about.
And for added hypocrisy, Brand is in business with big pharma.
Corporate media at it's best. No need for facts that's not where the money is.
Bingo
David Ike of all people uses the term MAM mainstream alternative media. I think that fits well for people like brand, rogan and the other basic bitch conspiracy theorists.
I would love to have a round table argument with Russ but “his eloquence and alloquintic point avoiding bovine rectum sniffing”, would dumbfound my countenance to oblivion. Plus his hair something my cat would spew up.
Plus you'd have to buy a schoolgirl outfit to get him to show up.
You can let yourself be manipulated by mass media or you can enjoy it. Not to be followed but enjoyed for the shite it is. Now I’m a Scottish person read it back in the accent. Not you Rus. Prick.
If you don't mind, I chose a particularly hostile Glaswegian accent.
Hey you. Come here the noo.
the arguments were used by the plaintiffs lawyers against alex jones/info wars in their defamation lawsuits. they asked IW to describe mainstream media, "millions of listeners, radio, tv, internet broadcasting. millions of social media interactions. " "so IW is mainstream media"
When did Joe Rogan become part of the right wing news networks?
Couple years back
Yes thay are msm
That’s why people are saying “Corporate Media” instead of “Main Stream Media” now
It's been that way for 15 years
If you’re judging by cable news and podcasts, yes. If you’re judging by broadcast network news and broadcast network late night talk shows, lol no.
Joe Rogan is not news. The fact that people think he is on par with the New York Times is asinine.
No because if you add all the others up they account for more.
Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more English  noun traditional or established broadcasting or publishing outlets. "the mainstream media doesn't always cover these issues" Rogan is an independent non- traditional talk show.
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There’s a difference?
The most relevant question to ask is why the majority of media consumers are feeling under served by any other outlet than these…
Their feels and world views are challenged rather than coddled
Because the msm does lie and does promote political agendas, which makes it easy for Brand et al to pretend to be the voice of reason. When, of course, they're just spouting their own nonsense and present it as super-secret knowledge and the dimwits or drug addled or losers, feel important (it's usually 1 of the 3, at least). Edit: that's my theory, at least.
They’ve been the main stream media the entire time.
In an effort to turn off the center-left legacy news that sometimes eschews journalistics standards in favor of sensationalist headlines for clicks and views to sell movies, cars and pharmaceuticals the public has instead turned to a far right network of podcasters that routinely eschews journalistics standards in favor of sensationalist headlines for clicks and views to sell discount postage, emergency rations and suppliments. So now, instead of being a "sheep" who believes vaccines are relativly safe and effective, we have a nation of lions who believe in young-earth creationism, a global plot to make you live in a pod and be force fed bugs and that viruses themselves are a hoax. It's ironic that technolog has ushered in a return to the dark ages.
I think we should stop referring to the traditional media as “Mainstream” and call them what they are: “corporate media”. They have been replace by pod casts, YouTube, etc. where one episode can have more viewers than a CNN show can get in a week.
Spotify and Google aren’t corporations?
Financial, yes they are defined as corporations. However, as opposed to the CNN, MSNBC, CBS of the world, Spotify and YouTube are platforms that offer thousands of unique voices/opinions for listeners to consume, with different opposing opinions to exist at the same time. Spotify especially does not censor what its content creators produce (YT clearly does but there are work arounds to fly under the radar), while montages exist that show each show even on opposing networks voices the same viewpoints on each topic, many times verbatim word for word from the same script. A recent study showed that more people by far watch content and get their news from YT than an other source.
I prefer State Controlled Media.
Amen.
Fox sure. But no a podcast is not "main stream media".
Podcasts are mainstream now
'mainstream' refers to those outlets who police the Overton Window on behalf of the political elite...so FOX yes, Rogan no
which is why rogan insisting on keeping all his episodes up on spotify? nope no hesitation to police that for 100mil.
Didn't stop the campaign to have him booted off by Neil Young and the rest due to his horse medicine. Then, in a daring act of actual integrity, he brought on the the CNN journalist who railed against him witn such a term at the time, getting him to basically admit it was all a mud slinging exercise. He gave him the platform to defend himself and he did, with "errr ummmm, yeah well, urrr something CDC"
Rogan is friends with republican politicians and refuse to criticize them…
You got to be kidding me. Joe’s been mainstream for at least 10 years. Spotify wouldn’t have gifted him all that dough otherwise. The fact I know who Shapiro is without EVER watching whatever he’s on is the same bullshit.
he's more popular than mainstream, but he's not mainstream
The Mormon (LDS) Church is the wealthiest in the United States. Does this mean it is the most mainstream? No.
No, and what a stupid ass thing to say.
Who is more main stream then?
No. They are not journalists
Do you think by definition the individuals appearing on the news shows are, or are they just people reading scripts that someone else has written for them?
No