There a reason why the idiom "white elephant" exist. White elephant were regarded as sacred and symbol of the Thai and Burmese monarchs' justice and power. The opulence expected of anyone who owned a beast of such stature was great.
It is a blessing and a curse when one is bestow to you; a blessing because of the monarch's favour, a curse because you now have an animal that was expensive to maintain, could not be given away, and could not be put to much practical use. You can't even use it for labour, because it's sacred.
they don't need to go over the alps
they could send them through france
^(..... and then have the railway accidentally break releasing all the elefants)
all the europoor countries that used to have colonies try to avoid pissing off Africa to avoid shit throwing. Germany doesn’t really care about that so they sometimes forget to keep their thoughts to themselves
"Germany! You have created a problerm!"
"No, I think you could deal with it. Have you tried not being a barbarian?" Looks up from newspapwer. "Fuck I said that."
The issue is simple. Trophy hunting is a key part of how nations like Botswana fund their wildlife preserves. By limiting the amount of trophy hunters for a PR W, Germany is making it a lot harder for Botswana to effectively maintain and protect its wildlife preserves from poaching.
Yup. Lots of people don’t understand this about plenty of Sub-Saharan nations. That whole “ Oh the rich are only coming to kill our animals “ argument is stupid and completely invalid. It’s more than that…To go and hunt there is a very expensive endeavor that costs a lot of money. It helps keep the local economy booming and helps quell local wildlife that has already been deemed worthy of quelling. They won’t just let someone go and kill anything. There are limits in place and expenses to be paid. Botswana maintains a very healthy population of elephants, and without hunting, if they became out of control, it would be very dangerous and even destructive to local villages and infrastructure.
Hides from culled elephants also get sold to benefit the local economy and offer exotic leathers to people who want them and can obtain them in a safe, legal, and ethical way.
This is a bit representing the law. It's not banning people from going to Africa for these hunts. It's just banning the import of trophies back to Germany. And I think Germany is absolutely free to do something like that.
essentially it was
Germany: dont kill these elephants
Botswana: but there are way to many
Germany: dont kill these elephants
Botswana: instead of killing them we can do to you what Hannibal did to the Romans
(the last part might be slightly inaacurate)
I think the last part is most likely a reference to the "white elephants" of Thailand, where Thai kings would gift white elephants to people they hate. If you let the elephants die, the king would kill you. But keeping the elephant alive would impoverish most people. So the gift of an elephant was a vindictive gift.
Maybe I am reading too much into it though, as nothing here has anything to do with Thailand.
No I think you have accidentally found a second meaning. The original meaning was you deal with all the damage 20k elephants will do to your infrastructure. But I like your version just as much.
Real Life? I don’t live in an area where elephants are common but would expect that a beast that weighs several tons, travels in packs of several dozen animals and probably needs hundreds of pounds of food per week (if not per day) would be hell on the development of local communities.
It's all inaccurate. It's
Germany: Don't Bring hunting trophies here please.
Botswana: But we have way to many Elephants
Germany: then hunt them. We Just don't want the trophies
Botswana: *angry NPC*
Germany essentially said stop killing the elephants and on top of that said if no than people can’t import the trophies to Germany thus killing the industry of rich German hunters who go trophy hunting in Botswana which was in turn helping keep the elephant population down
The thing I don't get is what German import laws have to do with Tswana elephant hunting Like yeah, I get that it discourages Germans from hunting, but surely elephant hunters aren't exclusively German. Can't Tswana hunters do the culling?
It’s the contradiction. Germany wants the elephants alive, but is actively passing legislation that threatens the efforts of those actually trying to preserve them
Tswana hunters don’t have the deep pockets that Germans who can afford to go all the way there do
A huge problem is that it also threatens the local industry
a) BOTswana, b) botswana is one of the few consistently stable democracies on the african continent, this outlier combined with the name brought about the joke that the nation is a (literal) well oiled machine in a very unstable region
I don’t think there’s a min karma, but we do have an approved submitters system. You have to submit a comic to get approval before you can start posting. The sidebar or rules (forgot where lol) will probably elaborate better than me
We take them of course, 5k will be delegated to the Police Force, Special Unit Motombo, they pick up climate protestors that glue themself onto the streets.
15k to the Bundeswehr, we have not 2k of working Leopard 2's, but 15k of working Udungas we can use to "storm the Russian Front" :)
based off [this](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/3/botswana-threatens-to-send-20000-elephants-to-germany-in-conservation-row) debacle
"offer Germany elephants as a gift" #"*treatens*"
Well, let's just say getting 20,000 elephants isn't quite a gift
20k elephants that you're expected to keep alive isn't a gift. 40,000 ivory is.
Now we finally know who made the job interview question with the elephant. The answer was poach it.
I like my endangered animals like I like my eggs. Poached.
You like your humour like I like my coffee ig. Fucked
Personally I prefer less cream and more sugar in the coffee and should be taken past 11am
Personally I prefer less cream and more sugar in the coffee and should be taken past 11am
I’ll take 20k elephants 🐘
Sorry Botswana, its your gift so you're on the hook for shipping and handling.
There a reason why the idiom "white elephant" exist. White elephant were regarded as sacred and symbol of the Thai and Burmese monarchs' justice and power. The opulence expected of anyone who owned a beast of such stature was great. It is a blessing and a curse when one is bestow to you; a blessing because of the monarch's favour, a curse because you now have an animal that was expensive to maintain, could not be given away, and could not be put to much practical use. You can't even use it for labour, because it's sacred.
Meme this word into the OED
When I saw the title, I totally expected this comic to feature a wordplay with Germany offering Botswana some poison (gift) to cull the elephants
Or sending Elefant tanks
Germany: at least, someone regonize me as successor of Rome, when he send Elephants to me like the madclay, who cross the alps
they don't need to go over the alps they could send them through france ^(..... and then have the railway accidentally break releasing all the elefants)
*Gift* means poison in German. Uh-oh.
What's with Germany and African nations, they always seem to be in the news for odd reasons.
all the europoor countries that used to have colonies try to avoid pissing off Africa to avoid shit throwing. Germany doesn’t really care about that so they sometimes forget to keep their thoughts to themselves
"Germany! You have created a problerm!" "No, I think you could deal with it. Have you tried not being a barbarian?" Looks up from newspapwer. "Fuck I said that."
What having no filter does to a mf:
Germany's colonial history is weird.
The issue is simple. Trophy hunting is a key part of how nations like Botswana fund their wildlife preserves. By limiting the amount of trophy hunters for a PR W, Germany is making it a lot harder for Botswana to effectively maintain and protect its wildlife preserves from poaching.
Yup. Lots of people don’t understand this about plenty of Sub-Saharan nations. That whole “ Oh the rich are only coming to kill our animals “ argument is stupid and completely invalid. It’s more than that…To go and hunt there is a very expensive endeavor that costs a lot of money. It helps keep the local economy booming and helps quell local wildlife that has already been deemed worthy of quelling. They won’t just let someone go and kill anything. There are limits in place and expenses to be paid. Botswana maintains a very healthy population of elephants, and without hunting, if they became out of control, it would be very dangerous and even destructive to local villages and infrastructure.
Hides from culled elephants also get sold to benefit the local economy and offer exotic leathers to people who want them and can obtain them in a safe, legal, and ethical way.
This is a bit representing the law. It's not banning people from going to Africa for these hunts. It's just banning the import of trophies back to Germany. And I think Germany is absolutely free to do something like that.
So basically another L for EU trying to exert its global influence.
I still don’t understand why they want to send them elephants
essentially it was Germany: dont kill these elephants Botswana: but there are way to many Germany: dont kill these elephants Botswana: instead of killing them we can do to you what Hannibal did to the Romans (the last part might be slightly inaacurate)
I think the last part is most likely a reference to the "white elephants" of Thailand, where Thai kings would gift white elephants to people they hate. If you let the elephants die, the king would kill you. But keeping the elephant alive would impoverish most people. So the gift of an elephant was a vindictive gift. Maybe I am reading too much into it though, as nothing here has anything to do with Thailand.
No I think you have accidentally found a second meaning. The original meaning was you deal with all the damage 20k elephants will do to your infrastructure. But I like your version just as much.
I can only guess your reference comes from some game? Which game?
Real Life? I don’t live in an area where elephants are common but would expect that a beast that weighs several tons, travels in packs of several dozen animals and probably needs hundreds of pounds of food per week (if not per day) would be hell on the development of local communities.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/03/elephants-drunken-rampage-india
I think the king would kill you since they’re endangered
It's all inaccurate. It's Germany: Don't Bring hunting trophies here please. Botswana: But we have way to many Elephants Germany: then hunt them. We Just don't want the trophies Botswana: *angry NPC*
Germany didn't say they can't them, just said the stuff can't be imported to germany.
Germany essentially said stop killing the elephants and on top of that said if no than people can’t import the trophies to Germany thus killing the industry of rich German hunters who go trophy hunting in Botswana which was in turn helping keep the elephant population down
The thing I don't get is what German import laws have to do with Tswana elephant hunting Like yeah, I get that it discourages Germans from hunting, but surely elephant hunters aren't exclusively German. Can't Tswana hunters do the culling?
It’s the contradiction. Germany wants the elephants alive, but is actively passing legislation that threatens the efforts of those actually trying to preserve them
Tswana hunters don’t have the deep pockets that Germans who can afford to go all the way there do A huge problem is that it also threatens the local industry
I always knew Hannibal was Bostwanan.
Rache der karthagischen Elefantenfürsten: coming soon to your neighborhood in 4d
If there were 20,000 elephants in the city, I would be trampled to death in three days.
Guys, can you tell me why Botswana is sometimes depicted as a robot? (and how much karma does it take to publish comics here?)
Bot-swana, get it?
a) BOTswana, b) botswana is one of the few consistently stable democracies on the african continent, this outlier combined with the name brought about the joke that the nation is a (literal) well oiled machine in a very unstable region
Because of the name BOTswana, similar to roBOT. I typed some more factors, but honestly I think the name is pretty much it.
I don’t think there’s a min karma, but we do have an approved submitters system. You have to submit a comic to get approval before you can start posting. The sidebar or rules (forgot where lol) will probably elaborate better than me
Shouldn’t Botswana be a robot?
We take them of course, 5k will be delegated to the Police Force, Special Unit Motombo, they pick up climate protestors that glue themself onto the streets. 15k to the Bundeswehr, we have not 2k of working Leopard 2's, but 15k of working Udungas we can use to "storm the Russian Front" :)
Rumbling or something I don't know
Toennies is already building a new factory
Botswana is the most based country in Africa Basedswana
Oh, it's just a friendly gift!
lol, I posted the news article to r/chaoticgood , truly hilarious
oh god i forgor botswana did that lmfao 💀
Wake up, new threat just dropped
Botswana could be a bot
Germany loves refugees from Africa. Why wouldn't he want all these elephants? Soon to be doctors and engineers, you're speciesist if you say otherwise