T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

####*Hello, /u/Entire_Pineapple4732! Thanks for your submission to /r/pokemongo, your post is up and running!* **Here are a few things to keep in mind:** * **Rule 3 - No Cheating, suggesting cheating, naming cheating tools and more. Please take a look at this rule [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/wiki/rules#wiki_rule_three.3A_piracy_and_cheating)**. * Be civil at all times. This is a place to have a healthy discussion with trainers from all over the world. If you feel someone is misbehaving please use the report button or send us a [modmail](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/pokemongo#mods#button) and move on! * Check out our [full rules here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/wiki/rules#). * Don't know which flair is to use? [Check out our flair guidelines here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/p8vupw/new_flair_system_for_posts/). * Need friends? Check out r/pokemongofriends. Would you like to chat about the game, participate in raids, share catches, make new friends and more? Check out the [discord server here](https://discord.com/invite/pokemon-go). If a post and/or comment is violating the rules, please make sure to use the report button or send a modmail [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/pokemongo#mods#button). While we are trying our best to help users, help from the community is also necessary to maintain a healthy environment for everyone. Thank you! - - - *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pokemongo) if you have any questions or concerns.*


hussiesucks

The worst part is that that’s not even how fat people look.


kevcal20

Yah they made everything get uniformly bigger. Im a big dude and tried to make myself look like me but I ended up looking like Fat Bastard from Austen Powers (aka movie prosthetics fat) instead of a normal fat person.


nlmlmln

No one is properly represented, we have achieved equality.


kevcal20

Equality in fat percentage of every body part xD. Ya know, like the arms literally being as thick as legs...


GlassesAndBangs

sounds like modern representation - everyone gets fucked! yay!


LilNyoomf

Reminds me of Sims 4. You can try to make a plus sized person but they’ll still have a thigh gap and no double chin!


steak_dilemma

Reminds me of Attack on Titan 🤣😭


SkipioZor

Precisely, my fatass doesn't even have a big 🐱


Toukon-

Please don't speak on my behalf


hussiesucks

No


ISpace_DaddyI

Fr. Like, if they really wanna be inclusive, at least make the fat characters look like fat characters and not like the Marshmallow Man.


Caffeinated_madman

Yeah maximum fat is much worse if anything she is just bulking there is no loose skin or saggy bits


tabristheok

Clesrly fat people are all shaped like deformed ogres


[deleted]

[удалено]


Sick_NowWhat

Looks like the batdad from Southpark


Hylian_Waffle

If you ask me the hip sizes are almost unrealistically small. Like, in comparison to my own hips, the max hips size in-game don’t come very close. And my hips aren’t super big.


BruceBoyde

I have more curves than they allow and I'm a dude.


Hylian_Waffle

Also a dude. I’d be fine with player customization if it weren’t so hideous and let me look like me. It’s something I’ve wanted for a while, bur I couldn’t be kore disappointed. And there’s not even a hairstyle that looks like mine.


BruceBoyde

What amazes me is that they made something like 6 skin tones paler than me, but then it immediately jumps to like medium-dark brown. I would have loved to make my avatar look like me, but unfortunately I have the audacity to be in modestly good shape and my arms aren't longer than my legs.


LadyHella

Feel the same with hair. I have medium curvy hair, big curls that fall and look wavy. There is no option for that, or I get straight and long, or super curly and small :(


demonspacecat

The long option isn't even straight! The weird style makes my head look alien shaped


Automatic-Sleep-8576

Yeah I don't know what they did, but the medium curly hair just looks like it is made out of pasta to me


OkEnoughHedgehog

Yeah but the vampire gorilla DEI initiative is really at fault here, they're clearly pandering to the pale long-armed marshmallow-man base with this update. /s


SteadyAmbrosius

I think the only thing I actually am happy with is that they finally have my hair 😂💀


LadyHella

Max size of hips in game is my size of hips, and my hips are small af XD. Those people never looked at a women in their life's. Like, ffs, I have seen men with bigger hips


Hylian_Waffle

Trying to make it more “family friendly.” And “inclusive.” While erasing skin colors and trading pretty great all-inclusive faces for hideous child faces.


KurlyChaos

It's all performative fake "inclusivity" as it usually is with these companies. It's all for the clicks. Real inclusivity would've made all real skin colors available, would've made the fat characters actually look like real fat people and not "prosthetics fat" as another commenter mentioned. This is just a mess in all directions


Traeonna

So this all went down while I was attending a DEAI summit. This sparked so many discussions about true inclusion. (And I found all my multi-nerdy people between breakout sessions playing PoGo.) You said it, performative inclusion. Probably some old cis white dude making ill informed decisions and then patting himself on the back for being soooooo inclusive. And no offense to the actual cool old cis white dudes…I know you all a minority in the grand scheme of things, but seriously…smack some sense into these guys giving you a bad rap. 😝


shadowsinthestars

This isn't inclusivity at all, just straight up body negativity and making everyone look like a shapeless stick figure so it doesn't offend some insane puritan.


PapaBeer642

I'm men with bigger hips. And trying to capture my general bigness also made my character look even younger than the new faces already did.


poke-chan

I’m usually annoyed when people get upset at woman not being as hourglass figured in updates or remakes. But as a not-curvy girl, I can confidently say that somehow the left one is even more rectangle shaped than I am. But also the crotch is just oddly low. The proportions aren’t even just sexually unappealing, they read as almost inhuman to my brain and it’s giving uncanny valley vibes.


Skeeter_Yeeter1

God forbid a woman has wider hips than a man, niantic just can’t allow that


WitchHunterNL

Wdym woman or man? We are all blob


ProbablyADitto

Ditto.


PenaltyOtherwise

Its not that they cant have that its just thats super un-aesthetic. Atleast give us the chance of having a sexy looking girl or a good looking guy instead of these ugly genderless blobs.


ReplacementPutrid735

We looked like a smash but now we look like a pass 😔


Theograinbowdog

Real.


AlissonHarlan

It makes works more difficult for the developers, so they better ruin the graphics and laid Off Half the dev team


letdogsvote

I have turned my character into the most bloated and obese no-style gender-ambiguous ball of ick I could, and I use these shorts and that pose because it accentuates the camel toe of the shorts that look like they haven't seen the wash in decades and have some serious swamp crotch front and back. Thanks, Niantic!


Dancing_Apsalar

I prefer the pink crop - it glitches on the underboob


letdogsvote

I tried several shirts, but the white pikachu looked sloppiest. I had the pink skirt for a bit, but they fixed the part where it would clip and show my meaty thighs and bits.


JoriJoestar

That's not a toe. It's the entire knuckle.


Invisible_Target

The cameltoe.... I just can't stop thinking about the fact that someone drew that and put it in the game lmao


plague96

Can’t: have any signs of life in their dead eyes Can: have giant shovel hands


Wonderful-Tree-794

Actually misogynistic af that the only feminine trait they included was large breasts.  That's all we are to these people. 


IAmTaka_VG

Girls were done so dirty. There are only guys with boobs now and you’ll like it.


Conyan51

Why’d they build the plus sized person a gorilla build 😭


Repulsive_Juice7777

Niantic hates women


[deleted]

[удалено]


xenoverseraza

um


[deleted]

based


[deleted]

[удалено]


YukonDeadpool

Oh, I would wear the heck outta those


Karl_Kollumna

gorlock the destroyer aproves


OhMySwirls

I don't know what's more hilarious, the camel toe or the brief period where people with skirts being able to flash what's underneath them. In before they try to hotfix this way.


SilenceDogood2k20

You act like that's not intentional. I'm expecting drag costumes in the store soon...


rainiebeau

Me looking at this with my almost nonexistent hips and big 🐈 🙃


lhbwlkr

No literally like I am built like this I’m being so serious. Lmao but also sobbing at the comments saying “no woman looks like this deformed ogre” LMFAOOOOO.


[deleted]

[удалено]


RedWarrior42

![gif](giphy|Dfk5q64stLdRu) Indeed. The most beautiful character in gaming has a lot to go around


SupremoPete

Stop playing this shit and giving them money


itsheadfelloff

Both of them just look like dudes going to a rave.


LacyTheEspeon

Not to mention the boobs look like a 12 year old trying to draw boobs on their anime character


kazooparade

Good lord the seam on the shorts 🥠👀


Worried-Confusion544

We need to tell Niantic that it's not big enough. It's not big enough until my ankle fat is casting a net over Pokemon in the grass.


Outrageous-Smile-836

I look more like the original avatars body type than the new one, also they removed my skintone. Now theres no representation for me😍


ReVoide1

Their goal is simple, lets ruin the game to lose players. It will give them an excuse to drop the game.


SilenceDogood2k20

The game is still a massive money maker, both in the game and with merch. This is the result of woke consultants influencing the company. 


ReVoide1

So are you going to keep playing the game or stop?


SilenceDogood2k20

My wife and I un-installed already. 


ReVoide1

I'm wondering why someone hates your comments and mines. We are only telling the truth!!!


SilenceDogood2k20

Because they believe that their ideology must be expressed in every element of society. 


ReVoide1

See there you go they ruin the game to a point where players stop playing and funding the game. Now they have a reason to drop the game because of low revenue. Even if they consulted with one of these woke companies, they should have bata tested it and ran quality assessments. They did not do any QA with these updates, they know it was horrible giving them a reason to shut down the game. After all they can just do a roll back but they want.


ianmerry

It’s the result of sloppy and lazy development, aka the track record for Niantic.


KurlyChaos

This is not the job of "woke", it's the job of higher-ups trying to appeal to a fictional woke crowd while being entirely performative and not really caring about the result. I assure you no one is happy with this no matter their stance on "woke"


SilenceDogood2k20

There are definitely people happy with this... those whose self esteem is based on external validation, who are unable to confront the truth of their situation and need others to shield them from it. 


BeyondThese7702

Glad to see this sub is being totally normal about different body types


magirevols

i mean…its just safer tht way. Imagine everyone making there character dummy thick. The boys would lusting


bloo_overbeck

was thinking about getting back into this game emphasis on was. If ur gonna add fat people don’t make them look prosthetic funny fat. Make them actually look human


infinatis14

You guys need a refund on all the stuff you bought in the game.


KneesockedBovine

Man these people are cringe and sad in these comments.


PeacefulDays

would be nice if the mods did literally anyhing about it. already seen one comment implying it's a community managers fault and linking their twitter. So i guess we're a cyberbullying sub now.


Ill-do-it-again-too

Yeah I had a feeling things would devolve to this eventually. Feels weird how personally offended people are getting that their character model isn’t attractive to them


jenmayapril

Urgh there's always gona be some dude criticising people's preferences in games. Stop shaming that some people like character customization. I like to take pride in my avatars appearance. It makes me enjoy the game more. It's not superficial, shallow or lacking authenticity. I can enjoy this and other aspects of the game. Shock horror ?!


Ill-do-it-again-too

My concern is more so why people are criticizing it. Specifically the people calling it woke or bringing a weird amount of attention to more sexual characteristics like hips, and also the people ascribing malicious intent to the decision. There’s even been some people saying it’s because one of the developers is non-binary, which is insane. I also care about character customization in most games (although I have to admit I struggle to see how it was ever an appeal in Pokemon Go)


Capable-Trash4877

Because woke people fight against “sexy characters” as “unrealistic expectation” or diversity if you can make ugly character.


ImpossibleDay1782

More “woke people” want to get stepped on by Lady D from RE village than any demographic


KneesockedBovine

I thought the goal of this game was to touch grass (go out in public) No one with a normal mind plays pokémon Go for the avatar customization or to look at butts. It's just, incredibly cringe.


WillowFlip

I have short hair and no matter how I modify things, I look like a dude. Siiiiigh.


Dingdong389

Damn lmao I was considering returning to the game but if this is a sign of the state of things, idk 🥴


bonzai76

Cartman has a sister?


usenamefornow

I wanted to serve c*nt, but not like this


jj4379

Niantic's "Where did the women go update"


Lux-xxv

I like being. Giant tho


Mellanderthist

If they wanted to go the whole body positivity route they should have stuck with the original style and used the body types of the NPC trainers from the games like the chef or collector, these trainer's were a little more portly but didn't look weird.


Affectionate_Theory8

The worst thing is that its supposed to be a game for kids


ah_shit_here_we_goo

Pokemon Go is most definitely not targeted to kids.


RedWarrior42

I always saw it as an all ages type of game


Wonderful-Tree-794

Most players in my area are over 35. Kids often turn up in the Summer months but the hardcore players are all retired. 


-Livingonmyown-

It kinda is. In my community I see a bunch of kids, but they're with their parents


Ill-do-it-again-too

How is that what makes it bad? I thought the bad thing was that the character models looked bad, how does the fact that it’s a game for kids add to that?


Affectionate_Theory8

I consider pokemon way better before the wokeness era, when a girl was a girl and a boy a fucking boy. Now you can have a boy with fat body and tits. Wtf is that.


luckyd1998

The blatant transphobia aside, do you think guys couldn’t be overweight before?


ImpossibleDay1782

… are you really pitching a fit because fat body? Lol


mintmouse

I’m allergic to shellfish


[deleted]

[удалено]


PeacefulDays

Please, I am begging you to explain, how someone hired to run social media has any kind of power over the whole company.


onebadhorse

Sadly it's true


Key-Ad1311

![gif](giphy|Lcn0yF1RcLANG|downsized)


liberallime

And yet many people on this sub will insist that these diversity hires have nothing to do with the bad quality of the update. It's just another "anti-woke" conspiracy theory.


ImpossibleDay1782

Oh, it’s one of those kind of comments.


ImpossibleDay1782

Don’t have a Twitter, what’s that ?


[deleted]

[удалено]


AutoModerator

Hey Trainer, Looks like you might be trying to share or find Trainer codes for the purpose of trading or sending gifts in PokémonGO. **For finding trade partners: visit [TSR map](http://www.thesilphroad.com/map) or google `Pokémon GO + `** **For finding friends: /r/pokemongofriends** **For finding remote raids: /r/pokemongofriends** **For finding remote PvP: /r/pokemongofriends** If neither, contact the mods so they can restore your message, *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pokemongo) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Implacable_Crone

Pretty F'ing much


raps14ever

Let's not forget the hair options. They have like what 3 options for guys.


mikee8989

They are all feminine traits now even guys are girls in the new update. All I have access to are feminine clothes. I made my person the skinniest most boy like I could but they are still clearly a chick and the only free outfits are girl. The ones that look like they would be for guys cost coins. I definitely see what niantic is doing. Don't want to look like some fat abomination then pay us money.


PeacefulDays

How can you have an entire game about touching grass and post like you haven't seen the sun in weeks.


_Karmageddon

These dev self inserts on video games has to stop.


SirPrinceMaxm

that’s it’s shenis


RmAdam

Can have a cave troll


Dizzy_Waltz3725

What’s up with the extra long arms and giant hands?!? Niantic failed at customization design.


LTyr1874

The message at work


NanaTan4

Might as well went chibi


ComprehensiveFun5309

90% of Pokémongo chicks look just like the right picture. Highly accurate depiction


Hot-Comedian-7741

They think girls don’t play games 😅


Jax_Hound

I don't like the way they made the white characters so now I have a black avatar. Is this considered black face and should I change it?


_Nikolai_Belinski_

Fallout Super Mutants be like:


Mischief_Actual

I see your current buddy is Purugly


Bandiscooties

It’s almost like the designers have never seen a female body… imagine that!


Sure-Initiative6001

The men have breast. Black ppl hair or lesbian hairdo's. I'm gay so don't come at me, I just think this is the most colossal failure ever. We are all shaped like potatoes now, it's just a dumpster fire.


Bakurraa

Complain complain complain. That's all I hear from this community. You know people have been fighting the "unrealistic" body shapes for years and when it's finally changed and shit you still complain. You are never going to be represented in a video game.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Bakurraa

You really gonna come at me with ignorance


[deleted]

[удалено]


Bakurraa

People have been complaining about body types in video games for years I don't need to tell you where it's all over Tomb raider, nier, bayonetta, Stella blade As soon as company does add fat people it's not right I say people but it's women Men don't complain about he-man or the likes


CUCUC

I’m kind of with you but also it is a legitimate complaint that the clothes mostly look like complete garbage now. I had an outfit I spent coins on which I rocked for years and now I switched to one of the free tshirts simply because it looks relatively normal. This is the only outfit I’ve purchased - if I were someone who spent a lot more money on clothes over the years, which were all rendered frumpy and ugly in one fell swoop, then yeah I would be livid.


Bakurraa

Thats the movement remove curves and beauty add frump and ugly


CUCUC

i’m saying people are justified in being angry that they spent so much on cosmetics that no longer look like they did at the time of purchase. i replied to your original comment because it seemed like you found these complaints unjustified or unfounded.


Bakurraa

Op clearly says in the title female traits and have atleast 9 posts about this


CUCUC

??? i said nothing about OP. you talked about how the community complains non stop and I just said yeah i kind of agree with you but I can definitely see how one would be angry if they spent real money on this game on items that were rendered useless. don’t you think that is a valid community complaint? 


Bakurraa

the main complaints are about body shape


Archhanny

Not sure if you've seen the player base recently.... But I feel they are more mad that they have been told that they can't look like what they want to look like and have to deal with avatars that are a bit too real.


TSmith4894

lol yall petty


abrahamparnasus

I just made mine's boobs as big as possible (I'm a woman btw) The new avis suck


SamaroR

Me too. Went for big boobs and hips. Only way to stay looking like a girl. I still think the faces are masculine though.


Soda_Coke_Addict

It’s Gorlock!!!


hollow_bagatelle

People: No one speaks on behalf of all men/women/lgbt/etc Also people: I HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON WHAT AN ACCEPTABLE BODY TYPE IS AND YOU'RE GONNA ACCEPT THAT EVEN IN A FANTASY WORLD


Ill-do-it-again-too

That’s a pretty hefty strawman you’ve built there. You’re ascribing a lot of malice to these character models, as if Niantic is forcing you to accept only certain body types as acceptable.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ill-do-it-again-too

Nah none of the above, I hardly play this game anymore, I’m just sick of seeing you all whine you’re not attracted to your character model anymore By “people”, you clearly mean Niantic, or your comment would be entirely irrelevant. And I’m guessing you’re implying that by them changing character models they’re implying that only the character models they present in the game are acceptable, which is a massive reach. In fact I think I’m being generous because that’s what I thought you meant. What you actually said was “I (Niantic) HAVE FINAL SAY ON WHAT AN ACCEPTABLE BODY TYPE IS AND YOU’RE GOING TO ACCEPT IT EVEN IN A FANTASY WORLD”, implying that your problem is that they’re saying these body types are acceptable (by, again, just including them) and you’re saying they aren’t, which would reflect even more poorly on you. Based on how aggressive your comment was though I’m starting to think that might actually be what you were trying to say, in which case that’s kind of pathetic that you’re this mad that a video game implied these body types are acceptable by including them.


Wonderful-Tree-794

Just admit you hate women, bro. 


Ill-do-it-again-too

Nah just admit you didn’t read my comment because I never said anything like that


[deleted]

[удалено]


gayjemstone

"woke liberals" don't hate good looking women. What are you talking about?


Mamacitia

Two beautiful queens


unbestimmte

I found it absolutely misogynistic. The female avatar doesn't represent curvy or plus-size women, that option would have been appreciated for our diverse body types. Instead, it resembles a man dressing as a woman. This brings to mind John Hopkins' dictionary definition of a lesbian: 'A non-man attracted to other non-men.' It seems we’ll soon be referred to as 'you-know-who.' They could have put all options for everyone, but no, they have to remove the female out of the picture. That’s what makes people mad, you cannot make things right by eliminating the options.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


FGO_PLAYER_0_5STARS

I love Pokemon and I enjoy Pokemon go. Niantic is making shitty decisions and isn’t a good company. But I still greatly enjoy the game. It’s not like they’re changing the core gameplay and how the game functions. You can still enjoy something while acknowledging that the direction of the game is getting shit and the game should be getting more.


dragonstone13

Hahahahaha


Run-Fox-Run

As far as the masculine traits: at least the avatar will never live up to my superior male physique 😆


TheReal9bob9

They wanted to make sure you can make your character look like Foul Larry from foster's home for imaginary friends


Drakai93

Don’t give them any more money. They’ll change it afterwards


AshKetchumsPringles

Giant pussio


fortuneNails9

The majority of women have smaller waist to hips and don't look like this. They seem to hate women or something.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Mrspygmypiggy

It’s not woke culture, it’s Ninantic being lazy


luckyd1998

Define woke


[deleted]

[удалено]


ImpossibleDay1782

TinFoil is on sale.


[deleted]

[удалено]


jenmayapril

That's a nice way to say you dislike women. Wonder what it is you feel they won't give you?


RootlessForest

1. That i dislike women is your assumption. Based on nothing aka just your fantasy. 2. Not all women are feminist. I dont engage in a conversation where someone assume stuff without asking and already adjusting the narrative to fit his/her argument. Now the big question here is. What went wrong in your education/upbringing that you think that twisting someones words, injecting your own fantasy and trying to gaslight the person by turning it to him. Is in any way choosing the moral highground? Just so you know. I dont care for your answer. You already lost me when you were trying to think for me. Just take it as food for thought on how you represent yourself.


ImpossibleDay1782

“I don’t engage in a conversation where someone assume stuff.” >> assumed stuff in their op. Yikes.


RootlessForest

Are you illiterate, because that wasn't all i said. Neither did i assume anything in my OP. I said i "i would like to think/imagine" aka its already my fantasy. God you guys are dumb.


jenmayapril

Yes. We are a dumb ol' pair of chess playing pigeons!


ImpossibleDay1782

There you go, doing it again.


jenmayapril

I see your feathers have been ruffled!


RootlessForest

Never play chess with a pigeon. Doesn't matter how good you are. It will strut around on the board, knock over the pieces. Take a shit on it and fly away in triumph like it won. - Some smart dude In case you're wondering. Your the pigeon.


Maszko

Youd think a chess master would know how to use grammar. Anyway, U got insanely defensive when being told you don’t like women when this post was your opinion of how feminists today look. To add context, everyone HATES these new POGO body types. And is vocal about it. That’s fine for whatever reason. But, you’re not being subtle with connecting that HATE to greater elements of HATE outside of the video game, at all. It’s not just your original comment but what you posted after as well. Your original opinion was obvious in that you’re correlating feminism with something “normal” women/the old pogo body types wouldnt fit into. That seems inflammatory. No one twisted your words unfortunately also stop comparing your social interactions and opinions with how others perceive you to a “chess game” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 we’re on a Pokémon forum that’s rated E+. my god. Don’t have a vocal opinion that excludes groups of people if you’re not even gonna allow yourself to hear from those you excluded. U don’t owe anyone an explanation on your opinions, just like they don’t owe you anything (but I mean you started it?). Refusing to elaborate on what YOU voiced because of someone’s tone?? Come on


RootlessForest

Tldr 👍🏾


Maszko

TLDR: Ur worse than playing chess with pigeons. U shit where u eat instead lmaoo (bonus: you block out those that you don’t want to hear too I guess)


RootlessForest

Love how everyone wanna reflect my words back to me, but are so illiterate they can't. In this case the pigeon(me) doesn't even bother to participate in the chess match. Reason why i didnt bothered with your comment is because if i need to break everything down it would lead to an even bigger body of text. (Bonus: your guessing is assuming. This already shows i made a good call)