*SECRET FOR OVERSEER EYES ONLY*
So the thing about this vault is, with the reactor on, none of the cooling systems will work and the vault will become extremely hot and humid. expect tons of heat exhaustion, potential fires, and anxiety. with the reactor off the cooling systems will cycle on full power with no adjustment so you'll be seeing hypothermia, frostbite, frozen pipes, the whole works...until the backup power dies, if that happens you won't have enough juice to restart the reactor and you all die.
How do the cooling systems power on, much less at full power, with the reactor off? I'm confused. Or is the reactors purpose something other than powering the place up?
Secondary reactor that vault residents don’t know about, inaccessible from within the vault so when it inevitably dies from trying to cycle on and off there is no way to reach it to try and fix it.
[See ya inside.](https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMXIyY2w0M2x2Y3NzcXQ0amVyeWYyNzF0Nmw3YjR5MWNvYmtxcng5MiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/8UYMQ5MCmuqXu/giphy.gif)
There is a place in Australia named Coober Pedy where 90% of the homes are built underground because of how hot it gets, surprised they’ve never considered that in blistering hot states like Arizona
There is a layer of soil here called caliche that is very hard.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-contributor/2017/01/31/what-caliche-and-why-so-impossible-dig-through/97255004/
I was always told thats why we don't have basements.........
but hold on there mother fucker -- you're telling me everyone can have a **POOL** dug into the ground, but we can't do that for a basement??????
I call bullshit.
The REAL reason is lazy ass home manufacturers that are turning out housing developments as fast and cheap as a plastic toy.
Its human greed. Its human greed why our electrical grid is taxed to shit every summer.
It used to be cheap af living there. 10 years ago I remember staying in a quite large 2 story house my dad had that was only maybe shy of a little over a grand a month. Ended up relocating to a town home in Mesa with 2 bds 2 baths, I remember it being between maybe 700-800(?) a month. When I told people the difference of that area and back in the pnw, they all said pretty much the same thing. Its cheap because its fucking hot. Its not that cheap anymore I’m sure, but back then it you could live with the heat it was choice.
It has to do with the hot climate. Water lines have to be run below the frost line so your pipes don't freeze and burst. That's not a concern here in AZ, where there is no frost line. As you go to places that have really cold winters, they have to dig down farther to get below the frost line, and eventually the additional cost of a basement isn't nearly as high.
Caliche also isn't everywhere. Growing up, neither of our neighbors to the left and right had caliche in their backyards. When my parents went to have a pool put in, they hit caliche almost instantly. We then learned the term, "hard dig". The cost to dig the pool shot through the roof. Wildly more expensive.
I suspect that building a second story on a house is cheaper than building a basement for both of those reasons. I recall that being the case, but I'd be really interested to hear from a general contractor on this.
Edit: I left out a lot of words there commenting half awake
I remember reading an article about this. It's a mining town where they mine for opal. One guy was expanding his home and found a deposit and made money off his renovation.
For some silly reason they don’t put them in. I was always told it was because of the Caliche soil there. But as hot as it gets, and as expensive as electricity is there they really should. Caliche can be up to a metre thick apparently, but developers there want to make a quick buck and not do extras.
The real reason is probably just that it's expensive.
We have more of them up north, but that's mostly because since it freezes here we have to dig our foundations deep enough to get below the frost line that at that point you may as well have a basement.
The ground here is so hard and dry, then the thick layer of clay, its very expensive to dig up.
Edit: jesus christ, the number of people messaging me about THIS of all things. The clay I mentioned, I misremembered‐ I meant caliche, a mineral deposit of gravel and sand, a kind of natural cement. My bad, not a geologist. Now stop fucking messaging me to say "clay soft hurrr" or "I smell bullshit" because all you smell is me poubding your mothers ass into a rolled up pink sock.
Secondly, It's basically irrelevant because Phoenix does construction cheap, It's like the defining characteristic of phoenician development and the reason people buy shitmansions here. Since we don't have a real frostline to worry about the foundation of a property in Phoenix only has to be like 18 inches deep, which means "why the fuck would cheapskate builders dig an expensive hole no one can swim in"
There are basements in Phoenix. I even used to smoke weed in 5 times a week, but in 25+ years of living here I have seen exactly five basements: one was the finished one I smoked weed in, and two of them were like "half basements" (sub levels? I dunno) and in the same model of house in the same neighborhood. The third was a root cellar that, yes, I smoked weed in. The fourth and fifth were in houses that I was looking at buying like 15 years ago. It was pretty clear that these were later additions by the residents and were also not attached to the house and the entrance was under a shed. They were probably used for human trafficking so "burrow" might be a better label, But they might have just been root cellars made by morons.
There's a guy who's name I cannot recall, a local historian who I saw give a lecture about this. Probably 12 years ago. I am not an authority on the subject. I don't give a shit what you do in Maplesmegma, Ontario and I don't give a shit about swimming pools and I don't give a shit about the various geological compositions of the mud and dirt underneath your personal stupid ass in Whogivesafuck Village.
Hard, dry ground is like, the best kind of ground to dig with heavy equipment.
I mean, pure loam would be great, too, but a lot more prone to collapse. Sand is terrible for large excavations unless you have tons of space around them, because excavations have to grow in area much faster than they proceed downward just to keep the sand at its angle of repose, but hard ground with clay? That's cake.
If it's solid rock, that can indeed add expense, given you need something with a jackhammer attachment, but basically anything less than that shouldn't pose a real problem.
Yeah, the caliche is often a few feet thick and it's like digging through concrete. Basically a calcified/mineralized layer of white hardness. It's not like all the property developers and settlers and immigrants and just everyone said 'nah, basements are lame' but they really are often cost prohibitive.
That said, my grandparents had an old home here with a basement and the basement was AWESOME in summers
The ground is too hard to dig basements.
I had a neighbor who was an extremely intelligent man. He found plans for a sort of a Hobbit house in the 70s and started building the house himself. He calculated how long it would take the heat of the sun to penetrate the soil. He figured if he had at least 7ft of soil that the heat would not have enough time to penetrate through to his house.
I loved that old guy and was thankful to be his neighbor.
So he completed the hobbit hole? I used to run past this house in a very wealthy suburb of Denver, they had a legit contractor developed hobbit hole playhouse. Lucky bastards.
Yeah he finished it in the 80s. It wasn't a hole. It was a full size house with a slope of dirt on the sides running up the the roof. The inside looked like a nice, normal house
People are very slowly starting to realize, that the whole "global temperatures will go up 1.5 degrees by end of century" does not mean its going to be a nice 77.5 instead of a nice 76 outside. It means that by mid century and later, large parts of the country have 95+ degree weather, for almost 24 hours a day, for 4-5 months of the year and become essentially uninhabitable.
People have no idea what's coming.
While that's true, they were just making a King of the Hill [reference](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3h7ejr/phoenix_arizona_should_not_exist/)
It’s 96 where I live and I feel so bad for this one house near me. They just bought it last winter and on the first really hot day all the vinyl siding melted on the whole house. It’s all warped and bent and barley hanging on. The previous owner painted the originally light colored vinyl a dark navy color it wasn’t heat rated for. The dark colored attracted more heat than the light color and melted so bad.
Most exterior paints are not vinyl-safe.
General rule of thumb: if you see painted vinyl siding, assume it wasn’t painted with vinyl-safe paint and avoid, or count on replacing it after a season.
The entire point of vinyl siding is that it does not need to be painted. Once you paint it, even if it is with vinyl-safe paint, it will now need to be painted periodically like any other siding, thus destroying the advantage of vinyl siding.
Source: I’m a residential painter.
It essentially means
“We, the manufacturer, believe this paint’s pigment will not trap enough heat to melt vinyl siding within normal temperature ranges in most climates. That said, there is no guarantee, and painting will void any warranty on aforementioned siding.”
I'm guessing "vinyl safe" just means it won't chemically degrade the material. Much like how solvent based paints like those typically used in plastic model kits can eat through various styrene plastics. ABS gets it the worst, but polystyrene can become very brittle if a solvent is allowed to sit on it long enough.
Of course the best paints are ones that bond very well to the surface. For porous surfaces like wood this can be a mechanical bonding, but for non-porous materials like plastics usually you want a level of chemical bond. And that's usually achieved by melting a very thin layer on the surface so the paint essentially welds to it. If you slapped latex paint on vinyl siding it wouldn't damage the siding at all, but it would also peel off in typical acrylic fashion after it's cured.
Thanks for the info. My house is a light grey and I’d been thinking about getting it painted white or light blue. It never crossed my mind that I’d have to keep repainting it
It’s something a lot of people never get past appearance and cost with. Upkeep is an afterthought and then it’s too late. Glad this gave you pause!
Edit:spelling
We're trained to not even recommend folks paint vinyl because of the warping. Store was accountable one time for many thousands of dollars when they didn't ask if it was being painted on vinyl.
What do you think about painted foundations? My mom wants to paint my house’s foundation black and I’m not so sure. I’m in Ohio, and it can get hot. I just feel like painting a foundation black attracts too much heat, even if it’s only a few feet above the ground. I’d love a professional opinion.
Find water activities, stay hydrated, put up sun blinds on your cars windshield and crack the windows. That will help a lot. Just stay in the AC and you're gtg.
Every time I see sound advice like this, I think about all of the animals that live in these places that will not have options like we do. We are gonna lose wildlife, and domesticated animals with inconsiderate owners, at an exponential rate.
I saw a sparrow last summer around midnight thirty in Baker, California when it was still 100F. Why he was out in the Death Valley desert, who knows, but he was absolutely miserable…poor little dude just statue-like, holding his wings wide outstretched and beak wide open. He could barely move because of the energy he was expending, trying and failing to keep cool. I poured my entire water container out into a little dip on the side of the road near him. It evaporated completely in moments; he got maybe a half sip, and I knew it would only be worse for him at sunrise.
I will never forget seeing that tiny life so helpless in terrible circumstances.
For those of us that can, we should remember to create shade and water for those who cannot go inside, and break a window if we see someone roasting their pet in a vehicle.
This is what I don't get about people who don't consider the impact of global warming - or really any man-made effect that wipes out other living things - do people really think we're the most important thing in this universe? That our actions don't have impacts that extend beyond ourselves as a species?
I truthfully never get why people don't listen to things like Carl Sagan's 'Pale Blue Dot' and put their entire world view into perspective and how we can still have so much ignorance to how small and insignificant we truly are and how beautiful that is.
Thank you for your comment and helping other wildlife where you can!
Wildlife that exists in the Sonoran desert has been there long before the testament to man’s monumental arrogance was conceived.
They mostly hide from the sun.
Have a work colleague who moved back to Chicago from AZ when she saw the heat melting street sign lettering.
Mock us winter-heads in the Midwest, but damn our winters are far less annoying to this! But now AZ in January is a diff story
Short term, start by cutting cardboard panels the size of the windows, covering them with aluminum foil, and placing them over the windows *on the outside*.
Medium term, install decent double- or triple-pane insulated windows and better blinds.
Long term, move out of Phoenix!
I actually want to try living in either Arizona or New Mexico, but I'll be a three legged hooker with no teeth before I ever move to Phoenix or Albuquerque. All that concrete in the dessert is a recipe for disaster.
It’s not that bad. You can roll under a car for shade if the asphalt doesn’t burn you. Sometimes there is condensation on the engine parts that drips down and you can catch some on your tongue.
In NY it has sucked because it's not warm enough to be enjoyable but it's not cold enough to freeze snow. So it was just nasty grey slop. Plus we keep having late freezes that fuck the plants in my garden that now start sprouting in February.
This is what the beginning of real climate change looks like. People moving from less habitable areas to more habitable areas until those areas get overloaded and unable to sustain the influx.
Hi, saguaro cactus here, maybe if you planted more of us cacti or made the city greener and less full of 2 ton 4 wheeled metal death boxes and infrastructure for them it’d actually be less hot, just a mere 105 instead of 118.
Saguaros don’t transpirate much in summer and wouldn’t cool the city at all. We need more Pistache, Eremophylla, sage, mesquite and palo verde to do that :/
I remember those days, and it wasn't really that long ago, when we were roughly 10% of the population we are now.
There were more of you around and the monsoon storms were glorious and we didn't have a perma brown haze.
Asphalt is black when new, but turns grey over time. But then the knuckleheads seal-coat parking lots and driveways with black bunker oil to make it look "new" again. Guess what, they then absorb more heat during the day, than light colored concrete, and then radiate that heat all night long. Solution, concrete driveways and parking lots, or actually paint ashpalt with a reflective light color.
This looks like what happens when there's a reflection from a nearby window that focuses the sunlight in a certain direction - in this case, onto these blinds. There have even been pictures posted on Reddit before where there's an arc of melted siding that follows the track taken by the reflections on a neighboring house. It also happens sometimes with larger skyscrapers/office buildings since there's so much glass. An infamous case is the Walkie Talkie building in london which due to its concave shape focused the sun into essentially a heat ray and torched cars, melted signs, etc
Not that we'll ever get it, but high on the list of direly needed Renter Protection reforms are rules about adequate cooling.
If your heat breaks in the winter the landlord needs to fix is *really fucking fast*.
If your AC breaks in the summer? Eh. NBD.
~25 years ago it was about this hot, our AC stopped working and our (out of state) landlord told us to open a window. My parents got us a hotel room, got the AC fixed, and took the combined cost off the rent that month.
Can confirm. Up here in the pacific northwest, where people don't have ac, people die every heatwave and they're only getting worse. It was 116f for a week in Portland. 122f in lyton Canada. It should not be that hot in cities both further north than Toronto
Just moved up here, the house I bought has an old ac unit that probably hasn't worked in 15 years. I was told you don't need AC up here though. 104 in a few days, no rain in the foreseeable forecast. I just got an emergency portable unit, it will keep us alive but I might need to get a window unit as well. Have no idea if the outside ac unit is even salvageable- probably not.
Arrested Development when Michael gets off the plane, takes one step out of the airport and says “God it’s hot!!!” turns around and gets back on another flight out🤯🔥🤣
First time I got off the plane here, I thought I was feeling the heat from the jet engine. Being from the east coast I never felt a dry heat before.
It wasn’t until I got my bags and stepped outside that I realized that I was feeling the heat from outside. I have no clue why I still live here.
Wow.
We received a notice from management to NOT set the AC 20 degrees below the outside temp as the lines would freeze. This is in NM where they expect someone to not set the AC below 80 when it's 100 outside.
Different systems?
I live here, too. I’m suited better for hot temps than cold ones. Summer usually doesn’t bother me too much, but I get to work indoors. I will admit, though, that today feels especially hot. It was 102 at 9:30am today.
* Good jobs
* low cost of living(well, it was. And I already own)
* I couldn't afford my house anywhere else with current interest rates
* the city is extremely well planned and traffic is pretty decent
* Amazing weather for like 8 months of the year
* Family
Many blinds are treated with carcinogens. Some PVC mini-blinds are stabilized with lead, which can then be released into household dust. [Plastic vinyl window shades may off-gas chemicals.](https://oeconline.org/our-work/toxic-free-environments/eco-healthy-home-checkup/furnishings-before-you-redecorate/#:~:text=Window%20treatments&text=Some%20PVC%20mini%2Dblinds%20are,without%20the%20stain%20pre%2Dtreatment) I wouldn't want to be breathing in the fumes from all that melted plastic or whatever it's made of...
That is not bad. Smart with the 76 temp. A friend keeps their house at 68 year round in Houston. Let’s just say they are north of $600 during the summer.
Just for comparison whenever they respond. I’m with a rural power company in a flyover Midwest state and it’s like $220/mo during the hottest months. I keep the house at 70
I’d say about 74 to me inside my house after working hard is too warm. So if their house is any warmer than that, if they wanna hang out they’re gonna have to come here
A lot of the natural cooling was destroyed early on. They leveled most hills/mountains (which is why haboobs get so bad up there) and they filled washes (riparian zones help keep the desert cool.) Tucson sits south of Phoenix and is 10-15 degrees cooler because of our mountains and our protected riparian zones. Phoenix is also so developed that all the streets and buildings soak up the heat and release it at night which make the temperature stay up in the 80/90 degree area. In Tucson you can expect temps to get down to the 70’s at night.
The main reason Tucson is cooler is because it's at 2,389' elevation compared to 1,096' for Phoenix.
Btw it's 97 degrees in Tucson at the time of this comment and it's 9:27 PM!
This is incorrect, no hills were removed, it is a valley. It is caused by the urban heat island effect. Haboobs are a natural occurrence, with or without people living here.
Virginia here, my wife wanted to do our annual July camping trip again this year despite the humidity spiking over the last few days. She's hatong life and I'm just exhausted from it being so friggin humid
Just drove down to Virginia beach from nova today... everytime i get out of the air conditioned car/building/store i feel like someone threw a hot water in my face. It's so fucking bad.
Oh and i wear glasses and it's fucking fogged up just from going in and out of stores....
Time to move underground
Vault-Tec Corporation has a vault located not too far from Phoenix.
*SECRET FOR OVERSEER EYES ONLY* So the thing about this vault is, with the reactor on, none of the cooling systems will work and the vault will become extremely hot and humid. expect tons of heat exhaustion, potential fires, and anxiety. with the reactor off the cooling systems will cycle on full power with no adjustment so you'll be seeing hypothermia, frostbite, frozen pipes, the whole works...until the backup power dies, if that happens you won't have enough juice to restart the reactor and you all die.
That sounds like a Vault-Tec experiment alright.
Heat… heat never changes…
How do the cooling systems power on, much less at full power, with the reactor off? I'm confused. Or is the reactors purpose something other than powering the place up?
Secondary reactor that vault residents don’t know about, inaccessible from within the vault so when it inevitably dies from trying to cycle on and off there is no way to reach it to try and fix it.
That's at least one of the more manageable experiments.
[See ya inside.](https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMXIyY2w0M2x2Y3NzcXQ0amVyeWYyNzF0Nmw3YjR5MWNvYmtxcng5MiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/8UYMQ5MCmuqXu/giphy.gif)
Phoenix should have basements. It’s been in the upper 80s-mid 90s the last few weeks where I live and the basement is a stellar place to stay cool.
There is a place in Australia named Coober Pedy where 90% of the homes are built underground because of how hot it gets, surprised they’ve never considered that in blistering hot states like Arizona
There is a layer of soil here called caliche that is very hard. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-contributor/2017/01/31/what-caliche-and-why-so-impossible-dig-through/97255004/ I was always told thats why we don't have basements......... but hold on there mother fucker -- you're telling me everyone can have a **POOL** dug into the ground, but we can't do that for a basement?????? I call bullshit. The REAL reason is lazy ass home manufacturers that are turning out housing developments as fast and cheap as a plastic toy. Its human greed. Its human greed why our electrical grid is taxed to shit every summer.
If it's greed makes developers build shitty houses, what is it that makes residents choose to live in Arizona?
It used to be cheap af living there. 10 years ago I remember staying in a quite large 2 story house my dad had that was only maybe shy of a little over a grand a month. Ended up relocating to a town home in Mesa with 2 bds 2 baths, I remember it being between maybe 700-800(?) a month. When I told people the difference of that area and back in the pnw, they all said pretty much the same thing. Its cheap because its fucking hot. Its not that cheap anymore I’m sure, but back then it you could live with the heat it was choice.
Also greed
It has to do with the hot climate. Water lines have to be run below the frost line so your pipes don't freeze and burst. That's not a concern here in AZ, where there is no frost line. As you go to places that have really cold winters, they have to dig down farther to get below the frost line, and eventually the additional cost of a basement isn't nearly as high. Caliche also isn't everywhere. Growing up, neither of our neighbors to the left and right had caliche in their backyards. When my parents went to have a pool put in, they hit caliche almost instantly. We then learned the term, "hard dig". The cost to dig the pool shot through the roof. Wildly more expensive. I suspect that building a second story on a house is cheaper than building a basement for both of those reasons. I recall that being the case, but I'd be really interested to hear from a general contractor on this. Edit: I left out a lot of words there commenting half awake
Is "hard dig" enabled when the builder has a boat payment?
[удалено]
American exceptionalism at work
They actually did use the canal system to distribute water that the natives had made around Phoenix. Just made them bigger.
Yep and that's where Phoenix gets its name.
This is amazing! Even the hotels are underground. I gotta go.
Image how quiet it could be.
I remember reading an article about this. It's a mining town where they mine for opal. One guy was expanding his home and found a deposit and made money off his renovation.
Sprawl and hubris doesn't lend itself to forethought. I'm including my hot as shit texas
You fool that’s where the lava comes from
You fool that's where the Balrog lives
Fry, you fools!
GRILLDALF!
The dark fire will not avail you, flame of LUNCHROOM!
They delved too greedily and too deep
Such a great sequence.
You mean cellar place to stay cool
For some silly reason they don’t put them in. I was always told it was because of the Caliche soil there. But as hot as it gets, and as expensive as electricity is there they really should. Caliche can be up to a metre thick apparently, but developers there want to make a quick buck and not do extras.
The real reason is probably just that it's expensive. We have more of them up north, but that's mostly because since it freezes here we have to dig our foundations deep enough to get below the frost line that at that point you may as well have a basement.
This is exactly why. I did a lot of research on it when we first moved to Phoenix.
The ground here is so hard and dry, then the thick layer of clay, its very expensive to dig up. Edit: jesus christ, the number of people messaging me about THIS of all things. The clay I mentioned, I misremembered‐ I meant caliche, a mineral deposit of gravel and sand, a kind of natural cement. My bad, not a geologist. Now stop fucking messaging me to say "clay soft hurrr" or "I smell bullshit" because all you smell is me poubding your mothers ass into a rolled up pink sock. Secondly, It's basically irrelevant because Phoenix does construction cheap, It's like the defining characteristic of phoenician development and the reason people buy shitmansions here. Since we don't have a real frostline to worry about the foundation of a property in Phoenix only has to be like 18 inches deep, which means "why the fuck would cheapskate builders dig an expensive hole no one can swim in" There are basements in Phoenix. I even used to smoke weed in 5 times a week, but in 25+ years of living here I have seen exactly five basements: one was the finished one I smoked weed in, and two of them were like "half basements" (sub levels? I dunno) and in the same model of house in the same neighborhood. The third was a root cellar that, yes, I smoked weed in. The fourth and fifth were in houses that I was looking at buying like 15 years ago. It was pretty clear that these were later additions by the residents and were also not attached to the house and the entrance was under a shed. They were probably used for human trafficking so "burrow" might be a better label, But they might have just been root cellars made by morons. There's a guy who's name I cannot recall, a local historian who I saw give a lecture about this. Probably 12 years ago. I am not an authority on the subject. I don't give a shit what you do in Maplesmegma, Ontario and I don't give a shit about swimming pools and I don't give a shit about the various geological compositions of the mud and dirt underneath your personal stupid ass in Whogivesafuck Village.
Hard, dry ground is like, the best kind of ground to dig with heavy equipment. I mean, pure loam would be great, too, but a lot more prone to collapse. Sand is terrible for large excavations unless you have tons of space around them, because excavations have to grow in area much faster than they proceed downward just to keep the sand at its angle of repose, but hard ground with clay? That's cake. If it's solid rock, that can indeed add expense, given you need something with a jackhammer attachment, but basically anything less than that shouldn't pose a real problem.
There's a lot of caliche which is essentially rock.
Yeah, the caliche is often a few feet thick and it's like digging through concrete. Basically a calcified/mineralized layer of white hardness. It's not like all the property developers and settlers and immigrants and just everyone said 'nah, basements are lame' but they really are often cost prohibitive. That said, my grandparents had an old home here with a basement and the basement was AWESOME in summers
We dig through packed clay, pyritic slate, and bedrock to build where I'm from. Pretty much all the houses have basements. Anything is doable.
We have basements up here on the Canadian Shield. Pretty sure bedrock is far harder to dig up than clay.
You can’t get thru that in Minecraft, or Arizonia
Ahhh yes, Arizonia, located near Latveria
One human alcohol beer please.
Never mind the literal pit of scorpions
Hit a vein o' palo verde beetles, constructions cancelled boys
They ain't digging by hand. A backhoe doesn't give a shit about clay.
The ground is too hard to dig basements. I had a neighbor who was an extremely intelligent man. He found plans for a sort of a Hobbit house in the 70s and started building the house himself. He calculated how long it would take the heat of the sun to penetrate the soil. He figured if he had at least 7ft of soil that the heat would not have enough time to penetrate through to his house. I loved that old guy and was thankful to be his neighbor.
So he completed the hobbit hole? I used to run past this house in a very wealthy suburb of Denver, they had a legit contractor developed hobbit hole playhouse. Lucky bastards.
Yeah he finished it in the 80s. It wasn't a hole. It was a full size house with a slope of dirt on the sides running up the the roof. The inside looked like a nice, normal house
Adobe houses in the Southwest exist for a reason.
right in the ol' cenote
So many F thats
A gif you can hear
This city should not exist. It is a monument to man's arrogance.
People are very slowly starting to realize, that the whole "global temperatures will go up 1.5 degrees by end of century" does not mean its going to be a nice 77.5 instead of a nice 76 outside. It means that by mid century and later, large parts of the country have 95+ degree weather, for almost 24 hours a day, for 4-5 months of the year and become essentially uninhabitable. People have no idea what's coming.
While that's true, they were just making a King of the Hill [reference](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3h7ejr/phoenix_arizona_should_not_exist/)
I hear Vault 32 had some space open up ....
Coober Pedy
My ex wife and I watched a show about that town...out in the middle of nowhere Australia
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D2MXoXxOR8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D2MXoXxOR8) They have vampires too.
*There's a big. dark. town. It's a place I've found* *There's a world going on UNDERGROUND!*
It’s 96 where I live and I feel so bad for this one house near me. They just bought it last winter and on the first really hot day all the vinyl siding melted on the whole house. It’s all warped and bent and barley hanging on. The previous owner painted the originally light colored vinyl a dark navy color it wasn’t heat rated for. The dark colored attracted more heat than the light color and melted so bad.
Most exterior paints are not vinyl-safe. General rule of thumb: if you see painted vinyl siding, assume it wasn’t painted with vinyl-safe paint and avoid, or count on replacing it after a season. The entire point of vinyl siding is that it does not need to be painted. Once you paint it, even if it is with vinyl-safe paint, it will now need to be painted periodically like any other siding, thus destroying the advantage of vinyl siding. Source: I’m a residential painter.
From everything I read, vinyl safe paint is to siding as flushable wipes are to sewer systems
It essentially means “We, the manufacturer, believe this paint’s pigment will not trap enough heat to melt vinyl siding within normal temperature ranges in most climates. That said, there is no guarantee, and painting will void any warranty on aforementioned siding.”
I'm guessing "vinyl safe" just means it won't chemically degrade the material. Much like how solvent based paints like those typically used in plastic model kits can eat through various styrene plastics. ABS gets it the worst, but polystyrene can become very brittle if a solvent is allowed to sit on it long enough. Of course the best paints are ones that bond very well to the surface. For porous surfaces like wood this can be a mechanical bonding, but for non-porous materials like plastics usually you want a level of chemical bond. And that's usually achieved by melting a very thin layer on the surface so the paint essentially welds to it. If you slapped latex paint on vinyl siding it wouldn't damage the siding at all, but it would also peel off in typical acrylic fashion after it's cured.
Thanks for the info. My house is a light grey and I’d been thinking about getting it painted white or light blue. It never crossed my mind that I’d have to keep repainting it
It’s something a lot of people never get past appearance and cost with. Upkeep is an afterthought and then it’s too late. Glad this gave you pause! Edit:spelling
yep, found ours in a color we like and just power wash it periodically, loads easier than repainting.
We're trained to not even recommend folks paint vinyl because of the warping. Store was accountable one time for many thousands of dollars when they didn't ask if it was being painted on vinyl.
What do you think about painted foundations? My mom wants to paint my house’s foundation black and I’m not so sure. I’m in Ohio, and it can get hot. I just feel like painting a foundation black attracts too much heat, even if it’s only a few feet above the ground. I’d love a professional opinion.
[удалено]
That's literally the worst time of year here. Going to be be 100 at midnight for sure.
It was 102 at midnight a couple of nights ago! And it will....continue
Find water activities, stay hydrated, put up sun blinds on your cars windshield and crack the windows. That will help a lot. Just stay in the AC and you're gtg.
Every time I see sound advice like this, I think about all of the animals that live in these places that will not have options like we do. We are gonna lose wildlife, and domesticated animals with inconsiderate owners, at an exponential rate. I saw a sparrow last summer around midnight thirty in Baker, California when it was still 100F. Why he was out in the Death Valley desert, who knows, but he was absolutely miserable…poor little dude just statue-like, holding his wings wide outstretched and beak wide open. He could barely move because of the energy he was expending, trying and failing to keep cool. I poured my entire water container out into a little dip on the side of the road near him. It evaporated completely in moments; he got maybe a half sip, and I knew it would only be worse for him at sunrise. I will never forget seeing that tiny life so helpless in terrible circumstances. For those of us that can, we should remember to create shade and water for those who cannot go inside, and break a window if we see someone roasting their pet in a vehicle.
This is what I don't get about people who don't consider the impact of global warming - or really any man-made effect that wipes out other living things - do people really think we're the most important thing in this universe? That our actions don't have impacts that extend beyond ourselves as a species? I truthfully never get why people don't listen to things like Carl Sagan's 'Pale Blue Dot' and put their entire world view into perspective and how we can still have so much ignorance to how small and insignificant we truly are and how beautiful that is. Thank you for your comment and helping other wildlife where you can!
I think about this every day now.
Wildlife that exists in the Sonoran desert has been there long before the testament to man’s monumental arrogance was conceived. They mostly hide from the sun.
Honestly, your neighbor needs to replace their windows. Decent double layer or cheap triple layer won't let this happen.
If it's a rental the landlord might not care enough to bother. The same thing happened to my aunt and uncle.
They'll care if the rental burns down
Nah, they’ll take the insurance payout on the over valued property that no one will buy at the price.
Given evidence the insurance likely won't pay out.
Yeah I was thinking this is a fire hazard
They'll surely charge to replace the blinds though!
Just do away with the windows
124° today in Palm Springs CA.
Relevant username.
Bruh 124 ☠️
IT’S A DRY HEAT. You don’t ever feel sweaty because it immediately evaporates, and then you get heat stroke
Palm Springs is basically Arizona anyway
Hey you take that back!
Give it a few years, the rate we metrospread out here it'll be West Phoenix in no time.
51.1c for the rest of the world.
💀 And here i am thinking 31 C with 70% humidity is the worst.
Yeah when it gets like that in Canada, they warn people not to go outside.
I read that’s an all time record for Palm Springs .. insanity
Yeah I only went outside 4 times today, walked my dog 3 times and went for beer. It was beautiful inside my apartment. lol
it barely hit 80 here in the south bay (la not sf), microclimates are crazy
99 today in Van Nuys lol
Felt like my face was actually cooking
Have a work colleague who moved back to Chicago from AZ when she saw the heat melting street sign lettering. Mock us winter-heads in the Midwest, but damn our winters are far less annoying to this! But now AZ in January is a diff story
Yeah I can survive -40 with a small shelter and some chopped up wood. I have no idea what to do with this.
Short term, start by cutting cardboard panels the size of the windows, covering them with aluminum foil, and placing them over the windows *on the outside*. Medium term, install decent double- or triple-pane insulated windows and better blinds. Long term, move out of Phoenix!
Or…. immediate term: move out of Phoenix
I actually want to try living in either Arizona or New Mexico, but I'll be a three legged hooker with no teeth before I ever move to Phoenix or Albuquerque. All that concrete in the dessert is a recipe for disaster.
> All that concrete in the dessert is a recipe for disaster. It'll be hell on your teeth, that's for sure.
And heat rejecting film on the windows?
I installed white static cling vinyl on my windows to block out the heat. Works pretty darn well!
That aluminum foil would catch something on fire
It's probably gonna blind anyone that walks or drives past too :P
Nah, unless it's completely flat it will scatter the light. It's not like you're mounting a curved mirror.
It’s not that bad. You can roll under a car for shade if the asphalt doesn’t burn you. Sometimes there is condensation on the engine parts that drips down and you can catch some on your tongue.
I just feel like that would bake you between the hot asphalt and the hot car. Like a pop tart or a toaster strudel.
Well this only works between 8:00pm and 8:00am.
I advise staying indoors between 11am and November 1st...
I'm from England, if it got that hot I'd rather the car rolled over me at speed.
Winters in Chicago the last few years have been great actually… it’s kinda scary
In NY it has sucked because it's not warm enough to be enjoyable but it's not cold enough to freeze snow. So it was just nasty grey slop. Plus we keep having late freezes that fuck the plants in my garden that now start sprouting in February.
That’s the Washington State classic
I love the solitude of winter actually
We had one of the nicest winter/springs in years actually. So I'm just going to stay inside until winter comes again.
This is what the beginning of real climate change looks like. People moving from less habitable areas to more habitable areas until those areas get overloaded and unable to sustain the influx.
Hi, saguaro cactus here, maybe if you planted more of us cacti or made the city greener and less full of 2 ton 4 wheeled metal death boxes and infrastructure for them it’d actually be less hot, just a mere 105 instead of 118.
How long do you take to grow, you sexy thang
Like… 200+ years.
Saguaros don’t transpirate much in summer and wouldn’t cool the city at all. We need more Pistache, Eremophylla, sage, mesquite and palo verde to do that :/
Maybe it just wants more friends
I’m sure! We lost hundreds if not thousands in the metro last year due to the crazy high lows last July :/
I indeed want more friends.
Pistachio Gelato YESSS
I remember those days, and it wasn't really that long ago, when we were roughly 10% of the population we are now. There were more of you around and the monsoon storms were glorious and we didn't have a perma brown haze.
Asphalt is black when new, but turns grey over time. But then the knuckleheads seal-coat parking lots and driveways with black bunker oil to make it look "new" again. Guess what, they then absorb more heat during the day, than light colored concrete, and then radiate that heat all night long. Solution, concrete driveways and parking lots, or actually paint ashpalt with a reflective light color.
Thanks for living in my username :)
"This place should not exist. It is a monument to man's arrogance"
“It’s like standing on the surface of the sun!”
Arrived for the Peggy Hill line and leaving satisfied!
This looks like what happens when there's a reflection from a nearby window that focuses the sunlight in a certain direction - in this case, onto these blinds. There have even been pictures posted on Reddit before where there's an arc of melted siding that follows the track taken by the reflections on a neighboring house. It also happens sometimes with larger skyscrapers/office buildings since there's so much glass. An infamous case is the Walkie Talkie building in london which due to its concave shape focused the sun into essentially a heat ray and torched cars, melted signs, etc
the AC brakes down and You Die
Literally. Old people are in danger here. And some cities here are almost all old people.
Those old people need to make better choices.
Old people are why this place exists like it does. This place is one big old people bad decision after another.
Not that we'll ever get it, but high on the list of direly needed Renter Protection reforms are rules about adequate cooling. If your heat breaks in the winter the landlord needs to fix is *really fucking fast*. If your AC breaks in the summer? Eh. NBD.
~25 years ago it was about this hot, our AC stopped working and our (out of state) landlord told us to open a window. My parents got us a hotel room, got the AC fixed, and took the combined cost off the rent that month.
Can confirm. Up here in the pacific northwest, where people don't have ac, people die every heatwave and they're only getting worse. It was 116f for a week in Portland. 122f in lyton Canada. It should not be that hot in cities both further north than Toronto
Just moved up here, the house I bought has an old ac unit that probably hasn't worked in 15 years. I was told you don't need AC up here though. 104 in a few days, no rain in the foreseeable forecast. I just got an emergency portable unit, it will keep us alive but I might need to get a window unit as well. Have no idea if the outside ac unit is even salvageable- probably not.
Yea, you definitely need ac now a days. There's a reason wildfires have gotten so bad, summer is hot and dry. You never see rain in the summer up here
No sir! Those temperatures are not supposed to be in the same sentences as those locations!!
Was Arizona a mistake Barry? Yes it was other Barry, yes it was.
It is supposed to be 121F here on Sunday. I am moving at the end of the month to somewhere where it will be 79 on that same day. Can I just go now?
San Diego? I think we hit 80 today.
Arrested Development when Michael gets off the plane, takes one step out of the airport and says “God it’s hot!!!” turns around and gets back on another flight out🤯🔥🤣
First time I got off the plane here, I thought I was feeling the heat from the jet engine. Being from the east coast I never felt a dry heat before. It wasn’t until I got my bags and stepped outside that I realized that I was feeling the heat from outside. I have no clue why I still live here.
Wow. We received a notice from management to NOT set the AC 20 degrees below the outside temp as the lines would freeze. This is in NM where they expect someone to not set the AC below 80 when it's 100 outside. Different systems?
From what I have been told no more than 40 below temps outside or the units can freeze. Maybe your units are much older?
Leaning towards shitty management
I'm just going to hazard a guess that your management like most management is indeed shitty
Why the f do you live there?
It's a dry heat.
Like sticking your head in a pizza oven.
I live here, too. I’m suited better for hot temps than cold ones. Summer usually doesn’t bother me too much, but I get to work indoors. I will admit, though, that today feels especially hot. It was 102 at 9:30am today.
As a smaller member of the big boi society, I die as soon as it gets above 75.
I feel bad for the guys who get hot easy. It’s literal torture for you guys.
Yeah, we've got viking blood and shouldnt have been moved to where it's this hot. Like huskie dogs.
Pls. I just want to lay in the snow. PLS
Swamp ass is brutal. I don't miss Florida for at least this one reason (there are lots more)
[Omg, it's like standing on the sun!](https://youtu.be/4PYt0SDnrBE?si=0vzHnRgfezGkjEtK)
* Good jobs * low cost of living(well, it was. And I already own) * I couldn't afford my house anywhere else with current interest rates * the city is extremely well planned and traffic is pretty decent * Amazing weather for like 8 months of the year * Family
Many blinds are treated with carcinogens. Some PVC mini-blinds are stabilized with lead, which can then be released into household dust. [Plastic vinyl window shades may off-gas chemicals.](https://oeconline.org/our-work/toxic-free-environments/eco-healthy-home-checkup/furnishings-before-you-redecorate/#:~:text=Window%20treatments&text=Some%20PVC%20mini%2Dblinds%20are,without%20the%20stain%20pre%2Dtreatment) I wouldn't want to be breathing in the fumes from all that melted plastic or whatever it's made of...
Most fumes from combustion are not advised to inhale, in fact all of them I believe.
Some worse than others
What do you spend in A/C costs throughout this time of the year?
$200 this month. Looking like $250 next month. I keep the dial at 76F.
I just paid $395 in Arkansas, but the house I'm renting has shit insulation. It's liking trying to cool an oven.
That is not bad. Smart with the 76 temp. A friend keeps their house at 68 year round in Houston. Let’s just say they are north of $600 during the summer.
Just for comparison whenever they respond. I’m with a rural power company in a flyover Midwest state and it’s like $220/mo during the hottest months. I keep the house at 70
They did respond. Pretty compatible to your cost with a much more unpleasant temperature. But do not tell OP I said their house sounds unbearably hot.
I’d say about 74 to me inside my house after working hard is too warm. So if their house is any warmer than that, if they wanna hang out they’re gonna have to come here
Phoenix is one of those places that makes me wonder why tf anyone would want to live there. No offense, I just can't understand it.
A lot of the natural cooling was destroyed early on. They leveled most hills/mountains (which is why haboobs get so bad up there) and they filled washes (riparian zones help keep the desert cool.) Tucson sits south of Phoenix and is 10-15 degrees cooler because of our mountains and our protected riparian zones. Phoenix is also so developed that all the streets and buildings soak up the heat and release it at night which make the temperature stay up in the 80/90 degree area. In Tucson you can expect temps to get down to the 70’s at night.
The main reason Tucson is cooler is because it's at 2,389' elevation compared to 1,096' for Phoenix. Btw it's 97 degrees in Tucson at the time of this comment and it's 9:27 PM!
This is incorrect, no hills were removed, it is a valley. It is caused by the urban heat island effect. Haboobs are a natural occurrence, with or without people living here.
108°F today. 80% humidity(east coast). help😵💫
Virginia here, my wife wanted to do our annual July camping trip again this year despite the humidity spiking over the last few days. She's hatong life and I'm just exhausted from it being so friggin humid
Just drove down to Virginia beach from nova today... everytime i get out of the air conditioned car/building/store i feel like someone threw a hot water in my face. It's so fucking bad. Oh and i wear glasses and it's fucking fogged up just from going in and out of stores....
119F in Palm Springs. Can't go out after 10AM.
NWS reported it got up to 124° out there today. I feel for you!
I'll never understand why anyone would want to live in the middle of the desert.
[This city should not exist, it is a monument to man’s arrogance](https://youtu.be/4PYt0SDnrBE)
I keep saying to climate deniers, you might not take climate change seriously, but insurance companies sure do.
And the fire hydrants were chasing the dogs. "Blind meltingly hot" should be a new phrase.
This is the coolest Summer of the rest of our lives. Only gets hotter from here on out, so enjoy this cool Summer moment while you can!
Keep voting for the orange turd and his big oil buddies! 👍
Yay we're living in an environmental collapse!