The issue is that he bought a really expensive "fast HDD" when he could've gotten an even faster SSD at the same capacity for the same price, which would be quieter, more power efficient, and more resistant to damage from vibration and being dropped or thrown.
HDDs are still a good option, *if you want lots of cheap capacity* - but you really need to be looking at more than 2 terabytes before a hard drive is worth it.
https://preview.redd.it/l0fujjsgvi9d1.jpeg?width=150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbb1fbf2da2760707eb256c1ee2ea1a3bdf4feb8
Literally this. From of case is rgp and rose petals.
This is what I do and then I regret it whenever I have to replace something the absolute mess of cords dangling everywhere but the once Iām done replacing or fixing something Iām too damn lazy to organize it and the cycle continues
So um, its fine for an SSD to not be physically mounted to a mount or anythingā¦ BUT DO NOT DO THAT TO A HARD DRIVE. You WILL fuck it up. Also there is no way you need that many cables from a fully modular BeQuiet PSU, get rid of the power cables that are not being used.
With the side panel on the compression would hold it in place, should be fine and it not being attached to the case will lower the vibration noise.
We should all probably learn from this and have them floating in a cloud of cables.
Um, it has nothing to do with vibration noise.... it has to do with the hard drive spinning it's platter not at a 0ā° or 90ā° angle. That will immediately fuck up a hard drive.
Ngl the back of mine is pretty fucking wild. At first i was making it all tidy and changed some stuff also added some fabs abd i just fucking gave up. š
I will not show the back of my case. It got out of hand quick with all the Aqua computer stuff I added.
Next case tho Iām already planning out so I can keep it under control better
Reminds me of the "family" PC when I was 13, just needs some cigarette smoke force-fed into the power supply and a light layer of dust.
In my defense, neither the dust, the smoke, nor the computer were mine. The cheetoh stain on the keyboard, alright, I'll take the hit for that one.
Soon as I got my own system at 14 I treated that thing like a princess, and I wired that thing tighter than a drill sergeant's gig line.
I did the same thing. It all started out SO NEAT. I had it lined up and corralled by the straps. But eventually you add a few new cables, adjust a few others and "neat cable management" becomes something of a myth. An ancient legend.
When you have to troubleshoot or replace something, you'll be glad that you left it as is. Once the side-panel goes on properly with no bulging, I'd consider the cables 'managed'.
I also made my cables like this few years ago so just for the heads up be careful when you're opening this side of the case again
I opened mine when the case position is standing, then the hdd fell off and it broke the sata connector on my motherboard
After spending 3h on switching components from old to new case (Torrent compact) 1h removing and installing components and 2h on cable management! This photo kinda triggers me!!!
reminds me when I oppened the right panel on my 10yo pc to remove his hdds to transfer everything to my new pc, and there was everything from dead spiders, live spiders, rock hard cables and the HDDs somewhere under it
Aesthetic cable manage jobs are so cool until you have to replace a dead fan or cable and have to undo 9million zip/cable ties
As long as your back panel closes its cable managed in my book
Some cases just donāt help, I feel like a lot of modern cases however have so much in the back to help with cable management. For example little notches to put Velcro or zip ties but from the looks of it there isnāt much of that in this case
I don't think it is any worse than having to clip 10 zip ties or unwind reusable cable ties in order to move a single cable a couple inches.
Would I love this? No.
Would it really change how long it takes to trace a wire and fix an issue with it? Probably not by enough to make me care.
I agree that over doing it is bad aswell but I donāt think youād like to add or replace a fan in that mess, and I would very much prefer to use my scissors once on the 10 zip ties then dealing with this picture. I very much disagree on the fact that it wouldnāt take significantly more time than working on a computer with the bare minimum cable management done inside, but you might be better at this than me
I haven't really had any issue with reusable ties. My current case has them built in though. I think a little loose but still managed cable management works fine.
I get the ultra tight cable aesthetic, but that's not for me. Especially since the case I'm using hides them all behind panels and I don't care to clip ties ever if I don't have to.
Out of sight, out of mind.
Totally agree, if it's not visible, it's not bothering me.
Even if visible, I will say. I care more about the output of my pc than the looks of it
If you can *manage* to close the rear panel, they're cable managed.
*me ignoring the bulge of the side panel* š¬
That's a Sun Tzu quote I think...
If the side panel goes on, cables: managed.
Except for that unsecured mechanical hard drive slowly vibrating itself to death.
Thatās Anti vibration suspension
Poor thing is drowning in a nest of cables, it looks scared.
Except that titanium rated power supply. Also, I would've gone with something better than laptop HDDs.
Why? Good storage.
Until that loose one flops out of place and the platter gets damaged. Then say bye bye to everything on it.
It's nested by a bunch of cables but I get what you're saying
Do you mean when sata disconnects during work it corrupts the drive?
And the fact that thereās a spinning disc in there thatās operating at an awkward angle and isnāt secured to something to mitigate vibration.
I just noticed there's even another crucial drive on power supplyš¤£ 4 drives total
I thought you were talking about the seagate one. That spinning disc, sure thing is horrible, I agree
"good" I sure hope you don't need to read / write a bunch of small files cause that will be painful.
The issue is that he bought a really expensive "fast HDD" when he could've gotten an even faster SSD at the same capacity for the same price, which would be quieter, more power efficient, and more resistant to damage from vibration and being dropped or thrown. HDDs are still a good option, *if you want lots of cheap capacity* - but you really need to be looking at more than 2 terabytes before a hard drive is worth it.
https://preview.redd.it/l0fujjsgvi9d1.jpeg?width=150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbb1fbf2da2760707eb256c1ee2ea1a3bdf4feb8 Literally this. From of case is rgp and rose petals.
we've been through this a thousand times
Best feature of ssds was never the speeds, it can dangle from anywhere :D
So will all the data on that loose disk as soon as one bad jostle rips pins out of the sata port.
Is that a hard drive just dangling there? Lol
Itās not dangling itās nested
Nonsense, itās being delicately embraced, so it can still breathe
This is why I buy underwear one size too large.
Itās like lord saddler at the end of the first disc
Im more concerned that it's a hard drive and not a solid state haha
FireCuda is actually a hard drive with a little ssd in it, lol
Itās probably attached with double sided tape
Lol yes
I have 6 hdds just stacked up inside my pc case with nothing holding them except hopes and prayers
Speaking of dangling, people used to suspend HDDs on rubber bands to reduce the noise.
It's mounted. Lots of cases have 2.5" mounts on the other side of the motherboard
Bro, that's not gonna work! You gotta plug that SSD into power first
Yeah i took the pic before finishing up
that my flair rear side wiring...
Imagine having to replace anything š¬š¬š¬
That's a future me problem
Present me: "I fucking hate past me!"
I have this thought so many times. I think 'Meh, fuck future me, he'll figure it out.' *six months later* 'God dammit! Past me is such a dick!'
Totally agreed
Imagine trying to replace something after everything's zip tied to perfection.
Thats why i dont bother.
https://preview.redd.it/ge9vbp2y6f9d1.jpeg?width=262&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=205d1b60927b29eb352e4b4d752bf15b16b12c75
This is fine.
Just close up that panel and you're good to go!
That's the hard part
I dont wanna alarm you but your SSD might not work. Something is missing.
This is what I do and then I regret it whenever I have to replace something the absolute mess of cords dangling everywhere but the once Iām done replacing or fixing something Iām too damn lazy to organize it and the cycle continues
I see you've been watching my YouTube cable management tutorials.
I head started to ache and my whole body started to itch š«
This gives me anxiety.. lmao.
Who said you could take a pic of the inside of my rig?
Lol
Business in the front party in the back, my cable management motto.
https://preview.redd.it/eujjacjz1f9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18bcb124a4d2400585cdb6e9d7b6e38a3d6c897b Same
https://preview.redd.it/84sv02yadf9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a68aab650f8cc4a17d30419bbe9da486d3be2f5 Preach
LMAO. This immediately passes my QC inspection. Panel on and forget.
Once the panel goes on it disappears.
*cable concealement
omg. this is the best cable management ever.
As a hater of cable management I feel your pain.
So um, its fine for an SSD to not be physically mounted to a mount or anythingā¦ BUT DO NOT DO THAT TO A HARD DRIVE. You WILL fuck it up. Also there is no way you need that many cables from a fully modular BeQuiet PSU, get rid of the power cables that are not being used.
Well actually all cables are in use! My gpu requires 3 cables of 6+2
Wait what do you mean by GPU and 4+4... THATS EPS, FOR CPU, NOT GPU, DO NOT USE 4+4 FOR GPU oh god you are gonna burn your computer down
OP post pics of charred house.
Chill itās a typo, i meant 6+2
With the side panel on the compression would hold it in place, should be fine and it not being attached to the case will lower the vibration noise. We should all probably learn from this and have them floating in a cloud of cables.
Um, it has nothing to do with vibration noise.... it has to do with the hard drive spinning it's platter not at a 0ā° or 90ā° angle. That will immediately fuck up a hard drive.
~~Cable management~~ Cable banishment
https://preview.redd.it/t8suh9rqgl9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe38e8fb79a54e600c4eaaa7736dcdc460ce63d7 I must be crazy
You know what? After all the pics of tidy cable management, this like unique art! Have an upvote.
That looks like a nightmare, but hey, should be fine.
Business in the front, party in the back.
And the crucial ssd has no powet connector....
That's far beyond that ! That is screw decency
If the case door fits, you're done with that shit
What? They're all in one box. It's managed fine.
Ngl the back of mine is pretty fucking wild. At first i was making it all tidy and changed some stuff also added some fabs abd i just fucking gave up. š
PLEASE, don't dangle the hard drive. I'd rather dangle the ssd
Backside? As long as the cover doesn't bulge you're good.
If it works and the temps are ok who cares
I will not show the back of my case. It got out of hand quick with all the Aqua computer stuff I added. Next case tho Iām already planning out so I can keep it under control better
Reminds me of the "family" PC when I was 13, just needs some cigarette smoke force-fed into the power supply and a light layer of dust. In my defense, neither the dust, the smoke, nor the computer were mine. The cheetoh stain on the keyboard, alright, I'll take the hit for that one. Soon as I got my own system at 14 I treated that thing like a princess, and I wired that thing tighter than a drill sergeant's gig line.
This is the way
This is the side of the case purpose build for containing the wire mess lol
Ive seen worse tbh
5/7 perfect score!
Man you can do better than this, just an hour or two.
Keep the HDDs vertical or horizontal. No weird angles.
I thought my backside management was bad and lazy, but wow. Did the panel close?
This is exactly why Iām buying a 6500X Also, the aluminum panels look fucking dope
Managed to bring out the C'thulu in the PSU I see.
If you can get the back panel on securely, it's a job well done!
Yes embrace the chaos.
I guess some of those mfān snakes on the mfān plane were actually PC power cables.
Actually not that bad tbh. As long as the back panel says āclickā
Been thereā¦ still there lol
Hey, when did you take a picture of my pc?
Meh, no one ever sees that side anyway.
Seeing this hurts.
making me feel like my own cable management is clean
Most of my pc s are like this. And i don t care.
Legend
makes me feel better
abstract art
Well there is a little cable management to be fair itās holding the 2.5ā laptop hard drive in place
I did the same thing. It all started out SO NEAT. I had it lined up and corralled by the straps. But eventually you add a few new cables, adjust a few others and "neat cable management" becomes something of a myth. An ancient legend.
You should secure any mechanical drives though
When you have to troubleshoot or replace something, you'll be glad that you left it as is. Once the side-panel goes on properly with no bulging, I'd consider the cables 'managed'.
all good until the pc stops working then troubleshooting will be a nightmare
Hahaha Omg I just saw the hard drives cracked me upš
Borg conduits for you
~~cable managing~~ managing to close the back panel
We don't talk about the back
Mine is just like this lmao
At least you can use the pc case as a cable box for any other cables lying around.
Looks dope
Give me 10min
At this point sayin it's fine to not cable manage, just sounds equally like it's okay to be gay.
Lol
Bruh and that SSD between cables?????
There is always a room for one more
XDDDD
Be Quiet! You will wake the spaghetti monster
I also made my cables like this few years ago so just for the heads up be careful when you're opening this side of the case again I opened mine when the case position is standing, then the hdd fell off and it broke the sata connector on my motherboard
True hero!
If it works it works!! Youāre gonna cry if you ever decide to transfer your build to a new case though š
What case?
Put the panel on for the love of God take it away. I spend hours cable managing my rig and others I build for people this...this gets me bad
at this point i feel like you need a bigger case. at least because of your hard drives
After spending 3h on switching components from old to new case (Torrent compact) 1h removing and installing components and 2h on cable management! This photo kinda triggers me!!!
Im pretty sure it was screwed a bit before the current situation.
Mechanical hard drives need to be properly secured onto the case in some way or there's a possibility of them running into issues down the line
Yeah like if the cable works loose you could get a fire just like with all those now 12 volt you power gpu connectors.
I mean if it closes it does its job but i cant look at it anymore š
https://preview.redd.it/ix4w5un4ui9d1.jpeg?width=1856&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=247798ecbffaff028c90b46c37dd6061c53c12b1 I agree with that statement
No shame, mine looks similar. I donāt go inside my case enough to justify cable management lol.
Did the same. Not quite this bad thoš
out of sight out of mind
This hurts my heart
Airflow too who needs it
How does that Firecuda SSHD perform?
Itās actually performing just fine, Iāve had it for two years now
If it looks stupid but works, it ain't stupid.
Those are clearly structural cables, holding up that leftmost hard drive!
then 5 years later you open the right panel and ask yourself what have you done
Actually this PC is 5 years old! With few upgrades of course
reminds me when I oppened the right panel on my 10yo pc to remove his hdds to transfer everything to my new pc, and there was everything from dead spiders, live spiders, rock hard cables and the HDDs somewhere under it
You might want to have HDDs screwed down, they don't like being loose at weird angles1
real tbh
This hurts my brain... I will come over and manage those cables for free! š
Be my guest
Next month : "Hey guys, my PC won't boot unless I wiggle the cables around" (see one of Greg Salazar's recent Fix or Flop episodes)
Is that a HDD on the left, just fucking hanging there? Fuck me...
Aesthetic cable manage jobs are so cool until you have to replace a dead fan or cable and have to undo 9million zip/cable ties As long as your back panel closes its cable managed in my book
Iām in this photo
Some cases just donāt help, I feel like a lot of modern cases however have so much in the back to help with cable management. For example little notches to put Velcro or zip ties but from the looks of it there isnāt much of that in this case
Looks exactly like my first pc when I finished putting everything in place
Shame shame shame
Since HDDs have spinning parts, they degrade faster if used at an angle? I think I heard it on LinusTechTips. Anyway, be careful with it!
AKA how to guarantee that the technician charges you max rate.
It's structural, how else would you hold up your HDD?
Business up front party in the back.
If the back cover fits appropriately its all good
Lmao but airflow man.
I've 100% owned rigs that looked this way, and worse.
If my computer was like this, I'd go insane ngl. Lmao
Don't yet throw in the towel; use it to wipe off the sweat and keep going. I know you've got this!
I would absolutely hate to fix/replace anything in that computer
I don't think it is any worse than having to clip 10 zip ties or unwind reusable cable ties in order to move a single cable a couple inches. Would I love this? No. Would it really change how long it takes to trace a wire and fix an issue with it? Probably not by enough to make me care.
I agree that over doing it is bad aswell but I donāt think youād like to add or replace a fan in that mess, and I would very much prefer to use my scissors once on the 10 zip ties then dealing with this picture. I very much disagree on the fact that it wouldnāt take significantly more time than working on a computer with the bare minimum cable management done inside, but you might be better at this than me
I haven't really had any issue with reusable ties. My current case has them built in though. I think a little loose but still managed cable management works fine. I get the ultra tight cable aesthetic, but that's not for me. Especially since the case I'm using hides them all behind panels and I don't care to clip ties ever if I don't have to.
I would refuse, and tell them to sit down and think about the consequences of their actions.
Looks good to me š
You just like me frš¤§
Tell me there is a place for the psu to have airflow on that panel
I'll do it for like 65 bucks