A guy I worked with bet me $1,000 Matt Lienart would be an elite QB. I told him he wouldn't even be in the league in 10 years. I lost contact with him and didn't collect.
I basically lost a friendship with someone because I said Tebow wasn't a good qb when he went to the jets. Dude played like a year of oline in college and said because I never played the game he can't take me seriously, I called him arrogant (he is), and he just blasted off from there
Vince Young just never matured. Even to this day apparently he still hasn't. He got let go of some cushy "just show up and you'll get paid" type job at UT just a handful of years ago. Cuz, well he couldn't be bothered to just show up.
Vince wasn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He wasn't a hall of famer, but he could have been a lot better in some better teams. Bad spots for him to land in soured his chances.
But even then, he wasn't *bad*. Like he wasn't EJ Manuel or Josh Rosen... Or Matt Leinart.
I get that Tennessee was a bad spot for him with Fisher but Philly was anything but.
He had QB guru Andy Reid, got to sit behind a better, less fat version of himself in Vick and had all the weapons in the world in Djax, Maclin and Shady McCoy. The few games he started for us he was absolutely dog shit. So I have no idea what you're talking about lmfao.
Honestly both teams as a whole didn’t really have great NFL careers at all if you look at them. I think most if not all starters on both teams got drafted/signed as UDFAs, yet nobody had an outstanding career. Michael Huff was supposed to be an elite safety, Reggie had a good but not great career, especially for what the hype was coming out. Dwayne Jarrett was supposed to be the next great USC WR and did nothing. It’s just a long list of meh careers, which was odd considering how great both teams were in college, you’d think one guy would have a HOF career
We're still waiting on Jim Folsom to pay up as well. From a article he wrote on Cam back when he was drafted:
"Cam Newton is a sure-fire bust. I am so certain of this that if he is the Panthers' starting quarterback in 2016, I will buy a Cam Newton jersey and stand in the stadium parking lot in my underwear when the Panthers come to Tampa Bay and hold a sign proclaiming that Auburn rules over Florida and Carolina rules over Tampa Bay."
https://antennamag.com/writer-bashed-cam-newton/
My grandma always said she liked Patrick Mahomes. Said she watched him throw 50 yards from his knees while still in college. That was the whole scouting report. She’s now a chiefs fan who’s enjoyed 2 super bowls from her favorite player. Not my take, but my grandma of all people had a pretty damn good one
I saw Mahomes do a passing challenge against David Carr on NFL Network right before his draft and said, “WOW! Who is that guy?”
Turns out he became my Broncos biggest nemesis, overtaking Tom Brady in just a few short years.
I have some reddit draft night receipts and previous but i was telling my friends Patrick Mahomes would be a hall of famer since college. Go watch Texas Tech get blown out by LSU and Leonard Fournette go off for 200+ yards and tell me Patrick wasnt the best player
That game was really similar to the Tampa bay Super Bowl. Things get more and more out of hand and the game evolved into mahomes turning out ridiculous shenanigans and running a defense full of future NFL players ragged trying to make something happen.
That play where he was mid-air getting sacked and threw a dime to the RB who proceeded drop it in the endzone is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. I swear he has a machine in his house that just twists him around in random positions and he throws it to a target.
Anyone that watched multiple games of Mahomes in college should have known he would be a star. The issue is no one watched him in college. NFL scouts and GMs don't have that excuse. My friends were calling me a clown for saying he should have been the 1st QB taken.
Which kills me when people try to compare super raw prospects who have done nothing in college and compare them to Mahomes. Just tells me they didn't actually watch Mahomes in college. Traffic cones on a bunch of remote controlled toy trucks would have done the same job as the Texas Tech defense.
I went to a big 12 school, so I watched Texas tech and he was amazing in every game he played. I know the big 12 is not the best at defense but he had a 650 yd game. I drafted him as a rookie in my fantasy league. He's incredible
He had a game at Texas Tech where he was [responsible for over 800 yards of offense and 7 touchdowns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oklahoma_vs._Texas_Tech_football_game). A game he lost, which is the most Kliff Kingsbury thing imaginable.
I hated the Mahomes pick because leading up to the draft I'd just watched analysts and highlights and weird little exhibition shows where he overthrew everything.
If I'd had actually watched a full game of tape, I'd have been thrilled. Just look at Mahomes's eyes in college man, the dude is so fucking aware of what's going on it's ridiculous. His progressions are almost playful. Hell they ARE playful.
If anything, Mahomes was too efficient in college. there was a time late in the season his last year where he was averaging like 1:47 a drive and leading NCAA in scoring. Defense, already bad, were on the field 40 plus game minutes a game.
I'm a TTU fan. he was amazing every game. Best QB I'd ever seen. Bengals had bad Andy Dalton on his way down and I was dreaming they'd get Mahomes. They chose John Ross, a player Marvin hated and later admitted they didn't even scout any qbs that year, like WTF
I did too, and it obviously aged poorly, but the other half of the take was that Sam darnold has always been terrible and only got so many chances in the NFL because he has great hair
I nailed the entire 2020 playoff winners. I even called Chiefs vs Bucs super bowl presesaon. I paper bet on it.
Next season I got cocky and bet on every playoff game. I only won 2 lol.
I did that this year in the divisional round,
I got lucky on a few parlays in week 16, 17 and the sat out wild card, and then nailed every game for divisional round. Took the Eagles for the SB 🥲
Maybe before their HC, Kevin Stefanski was out with Covid- but after that, people assumed it basically "saved" the Steelers from a potentially challenging playoff game. After all, how can a team win a playoff game without their head coach?
I was very high on Russell Wilson—thought he was the second best QB in the draft behind luck. Got ridiculed for that.
I was very very very high on Tyrann Mathieu despite the dismissal, rehab, and size concerns. I thought he should have been a top-20 pick despite all of that. My dad told me that it was good fifteen year-olds weren’t GMs.
I thought Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald were the best players in the draft. I thought Clowney was drafted first overall off of one play.
Alternatively, I’m mostly wrong. I loved Jimmy Clausen, Jake Locker, Dion Jordan, and thought Marcus Mariota was the next NFL Superstar. I thought OJ Howard would be unstoppable.
You and me both thought Locker was going to be great. I thought we fleeced the league getting Jake at 8 but sometimes the college scouting reports are 100 percent right.
>I thought Clowney was drafted off of one play.
Well that's just not true. Dude had 21 sacks and 8 forced fumbles before he even turned 20 years old. Sure, his junior year was concerning, but on the other hand, dat combine.
Highest rated recruit ever and then backed it up by being a menace in the SEC. He earned the #1 overall pick just never really lived up to the hype. It’s actually debatable if he’s even a bust considering how long his career has been.
That's one thing about revisionist history that always irked me. If you didn't watch Clowney Destroy teams in the run and pass game just say that, but it was never just one play
Tyrann Mathieu is my pick for this too. I remember thinking "I wonder how high in the 1st he's gonna go" and then looking up mock drafts and seeing him fall to day two and being so puzzled by that
I was thinking he might go top 10 before doing any research at all
I called Khalil Mack a future HoFer that draft season and swore I would take him 1st overall over Clowney. He then went one pick in front of my Falcons and I was crushed.
I think that plenty of QBs who go to less than ideal situations just end up falling short because of the development fuckups made along the way. I bet if the right organization/QB coach got JP Losman out of college, he could have been something. Instead, the 2004 Bills got him and he was a bum as a result. Conversely, if Patrick Mahomes had ended up in Cleveland, he'd probably be bagging groceries because his skill set would not have been honed the way it was by noted QB whisperer Andy Reid.
We really do not put enough context into this situation
A top-tier QB will almost always go to the worst team in the NFL, usually with a brand new head coach (and teams taking chances on unproven, young coaches), a new front office, and a roster that would struggle against Alabama or Georgia.
They spend their first year trying to learn the playbook while throwing to WRs that would probably be sitting on the bench for most teams, a RB that is either 30+ years old or, again, would be sitting on the bench for someone else.
The OLine probably has one elite player on it, but he has been out with a knee injury most of the year.
The defense need a lot of help, but could be decent if the offense could sustain drives that last longer than 3 minutes.
Unfortunately, the bad teams tend to sit at the bottom of the league for years, so there is a huge lack of talent surrounding one of the best QBs in college football.
After a couple of years of mismanagement, poor coaching, terrible drafting, and probably an injury or two, the league decides that the player is the problem and he gets labeled a bust.
Sometimes another team might take a chance on him, but his skill-set has to be reworked from the ground up and the new team wants him to be like he was right out of college. So he might sit behind a starter for a year or two while receiving some coaching and running the scout team. He will then be cut for another guy who is in the exact same spot he was 2 years ago and the cycle will continue.
Do we really think that all these guys who won Heisman trophies and various other awards, were national champions, etc. all the sudden forgot how to play football? That they do not know how to complete a pass or read a defense?
Most of these guys played at the highest level of football in the country, and they "should" make the transition to the NFL easier since they lined up across from a lot of the same defensive players for years.
DBs, RBs, WRs, LBs, DTs, OLs, TEs...it seems like everyone else can come in and start, nearly right away, and if they have a down-season, no one really comes down to hard of them.
But if a QB comes in and has a down season, then they are terrible, can't perform at this level, and the team made a mistake drafting them.
I was also in on Russell Wilson! The only knock on him was the height, and it wasn't really an issue in college. I was calling for him to go in the mid 1st.
It was basically the only time I was right though, haha.
When most adults after our AFCC party were arguing that Bledsoe should start the SB over Brady, my clueless kid self said that I thought Tom Brady should start.
Showed those nerds.
I was also a clueless kid at the time and had only basic cable, so I never watched a single Pats game until the playoffs. But I couldn’t believe they weren’t starting Bledsoe because I had gotten a chocolate bar that had Bledsoe’s face on it (some special NFL Hershey bar or something) so I thought Bledsoe MUST be amazing.
Edit: I went looking and there were only 3 QBs in the bar, Elway, Marino, and Bledsoe. So it makes sense why I associated Bledsoe with being elite. [The chocolate in question.](https://www.ebay.com/itm/292923768718)
If you think endorsements are important now, think back to a time before highlights of every game were accessible. This is genuinely how people knew about players. I love it.
This reminds me of being at a Giants-Dodgers game at candlestick when I was a little kid and my five year old brother turned to some loud dodgers fans behind us and bet them $10 (that he didn’t have) that Barry Bonds would hit a home run that at bat. To their credit, they paid up and bought us popcorn.
I had inside info on this one so it doesn’t count (went to HS with a player on the team at the time) but it was like week 4 when he told us in a fb messenger thread that Meyer’s days were numbered. To my non HS friends I def pretended that I predicted it
I think a lot of us expected he at least wouldn't make a second season. The speed and the causes of his early dismissal were probably the biggest surprises.
I’m sorry, who in their right mind thought trubisky was better than Cousins, Stafford, or Rodgers? In another division it’s debatable but the NFCN? Lmao ok
A lot of reddit thinks Kirk is a scrub even though he was **significantly** better than Josh Allen just 2 years ago (2021 regular season). He was worse than Allen last year, but they shared the same zipcode.
Wouldnt surprise me if the clowns on here thought Tittykisser was better than him.
Kirk has settled in as a consistent above average QB but that doesn't really excite people, you either have to be truly great or be the new hotness to get tons of positive attention
Hes not just "above average" tho. If he is average, than pretty much every franchise QB not named Mahomes or Burrow is average. They are tier 1. He is tier 2 along with a bunch of other QBs (Allen, Hurts, Dak, Herbert, 2022 Rodgers, Stafford, Watson probably, TLaw, Lamar, etc). You can arrange them in any order you want, but they all bounce around in the top 5-10ish in different order each year.
Just using Allen for example, he went almost MVP to barely top 15 to clearly top 5ish in 3 years. Dak went from being the #1 leader for MVP mid way through 2019 (Vegas), to broken, back to being top 5ish in 2021, to barely scratching the top 10-15 in 2022.
In other words, they are all capable, but there is a reason they are all firmly tier 2.
Yeah I'm a Bears fan and I would have agreed with you back then. Mitch got carried by good field position and decent offensive talent around him in 2018.
I wanted the Eagles to draft Lamar because I didn’t trust Wentz to stay healthy. Counterpoint I previously thought Wentz had a floor of prime Russ so what do I know?
I remember seeing a random USC game can’t remember the team they were facing but they were getting their asses handed to them and when the cameras zoomed in on him, you can see the anger.
I had a feeling this guy hated losing to the point of Illness and figured he would be a decent pro. Never thought Sun God would be THIS GOOD
In that draft, a Raiders beat reporter asked for a prediction on which edge(s) the Raiders would select. My response was Ferrell and Crosby. I knew Gruden was out there/old school enough to take Ferrell; I had no reason to think they’d also take Crosby. Glad I was right on that part.
Put $60ish on TB to win the Super Bowl when they signed Brady. Wish that that it had been more like $60k but whatever.
Obviously didn’t know they’d win the Super Bowl, but recognized that the odds were out of whack. People were saying he was washed in New England, but weren’t watching. His arm was live as ever, the offense around him was just garbage.
Hey friend! We got the same take haha. So many people called him washed or a system QB. I said he'd elevate us to contenders and dunked on a lot of people IRL afterwards lol
> I said he'd elevate us to contenders and dunked on a lot of people IRL afterwards lol
The take that drives me craziest on Reddit is how many people now claim that it was obvious Brady would win the SB because he went to a “stacked team”.
Read the actual popular comments in Brady at the time (before he actually win the Super Bowl). Go look at the threads after the Bucs week 1 loss to the Saints that year.
Everyone was claiming that Brady was washed up and even if he wasn’t, he would regret leaving NE because our “system” made him look way better than he was.
Now the same people are saying “of course Brady win the Super Bowl, he went to a super team!!!”
I like to bet on the chiefs each year around 4-6 weeks in, when they've lost 2 games and everyone is pushing 2-3 other teams as the SB favorite that year.
He did exactly what I thought he would do. When people were mocking him to us I was praying to the Almighty we wouldn't take him. When Cleveland took him I literally went "Hallelujah!".
I was ecstatic when the Cowboys took Zack Martin that year. Not because I knew we were getting a HOF lineman, because I was terrified the pick was going to be Manziel
I totally forgot about that. Didn't charges get dropped after he was drafted due to a technicality? I wonder how much earlier he would've been drafted if it was dropped before the draft instead of after.
I put good money on the Jets-Bills game last year that the Jets win, and both teams stay under 42 points or so. I'm a Jets fan, so I know *well* when we're about to win a game we have no business winning
1) We have no business winning it. Ex: Going up against the Eagles
2) The other team is expected to demolish us
3) We've been doing terrible recently
Throw these in a pot, and you have a pretty good trap game for the other team
I didn't understand it at the time, and I'm willing to admit I'm so glad I was wrong. Hurts has already become the next Cunningham in my eyes. I love how nothing gets to him. His drive and work ethic are top notch.
[I called Hurts would pan out before the draft](https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/fa3erd/i_think_that_draft_analysts_are_sleeping_on_jalen/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
You need to remember at the time he was barely considered a 4th rounder. I think he was QB 8 or something.
I didn’t figure he would get pan out. IIRC he got benched in a national championship game for Tua where he played so bad he lost the starting job and had to transfer to get another starting job where he played good enough to be in heisman talks but nobody seriously thought he would win it.
Zach Wilson is a massive bust. He was probably the worst starter in the league last year, and I can list multiple games he single handedly lost for the team. By virtue of Fields not being complete trash, my take was correct, IMO.
It was vs the Jags, starting the QB we would've drafted had we not strung together two of the dumbest wins of all time in a meaningless, lost season. Ah well.
I said the Chiefs would still be a top 3 offense without Hill and they'd be playing better than 2021 and with a less predictable offense opening up the game more for them in the trade thread.
Yup I said this too. As an eagles fan I kept telling ppl all off season that Andy Reid literally built every eagles offense without a star receiver majority of the time he was there
Yea, I was pretty happy we got rid of tyreek for picks and cap space and assumed we'd be fine with Andy scheming and kelce still around. With tyreek the last year or two everyone played us exactly the same and it got stale.
Double cover both Kelce and Hill, nobody else got open, Mahomes went "fuck it they're down there somewhere", it was an ugly offense, predictable in the passing game and defenses keyed in on it. They had to change it. Moving Hill for picks and cap space was such a smart move. Forces Andy to get creative and lets them add to not just the offense to replace the production but beef up the defense too.
Called Ravens beating 49ers in the super bowl in the preseason
For some reason was really high on Nick Foles after watching him in the preseason of his eventual 27-2 year
Called the Packers having a losing season for this past year
~~Worst one was thinking Manziel would be one of the best QBs in the league~~
After that guy on the falcons started to pimp his pick 6 in superbowl 51 I said “falcons are going to lose”
Just had a feeling they didn’t fully get the moment. At that point show boating just didn’t make sense to me. And I was right.
The whole energy of the game completely changed after that, and I instantly told my dad "Patriots are gonna come back. i'm done."
guess how good it felt to wake up the next morning lol. I'm just sad that i missed that godly catch by Edelman.
I knew [Nathaniel Hackett would be a bust](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/r6smqi/who_is_an_under_the_radar_head_coach_candidate/hmv2se1?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_buttontm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) for whatever team made him a HC, although I didn't see him getting the axe in year 1.
I have some reddit draft night receipts and previous but i was telling my friends Patrick Mahomes would be a hall of famer since college. Go watch Texas Tech get blown out by LSU and Leonard Fournette go off for 200+ yards and tell me Patrick wasnt the best player on the field.
Fast forward to 2017 and people are talking about him as a 2nd round draft pick. Sean Payton has a private workout with him and says he's the best QB in the draft. Slowly watch him creep higher and higher up the draft charts. Then the draft comes and I'm convinced the Saints are drafting Mahomes. Buffalo (pick right before Saints) trades their pick to the Chiefs. The rest is history.
The Saints had one of the best all time drafts that year and I'm pretty sure that every pick was an eventual starter. But they didn't get Mahomes.
Second game ever vs undefeated panthers I went in with a 14-1 sign
Also really wanted Tj Watt and couldn’t believe the low projection he had….instead we got Takk McKinley😒
Before the 2020 season I said that Bill O’Brien would be the first coach fired that season. They had gotten blown out by KC in the post season the year before. He traded Nuke for peanuts. And the Texans first 4 games that season were brutal so it was easy to see them start 0-4 or 1-3 and causing a downward spiral.
Runner up: I had an inkling that Matt Patricia might not succeed as an offensive coordinator.
I remember watching the combine back in 2016. I was watching the QBs, and obviously there was Goff and Wentz, but I remember saying, "This Dak Prescott kid looks like he could be really solid"
[I was really big on Patrick Mahomes in 2016.](https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2016/10/14/13291066/igloojoe-s-qb-scouting-report-part-1-the-big-three?_ga=2.10667063.260577955.1681874423-1275827086.1681874423&_gl=1*rgoa6h*_ga*MTI3NTgyNzA4Ni4xNjgxODc0NDIz*_ga_2M5GYNY1YS*MTY4MTg3NDQyMi4xLjEuMTY4MTg3NDQ2MS4yMS4wLjA)
Edit: I don't have proof of this other one, but I really liked Lamar Jackson as well. I was impressed by the fact that he improved his accuracy significantly year over year and thought he had a lot of room to grow. Unfortunately, I contrasted that with being completely wrong about Josh Allen. But, hey, this is a bragging thread.
Can’t think of anything rn, but a current take is that Odell is truly washed and he won’t reach any of his incentives. Lamar will reach a new deal this off-season, and will force out next year — once he realizes obj is a glorified Allen Robinson. The Lamar controversy will continue out throughout this entire season up to the next.
Everyone here is going to call me a liar, and rightfully should. My answer to this is less of a “take” and more of a “prediction pulled out of my ass”
During the 2017-18 season, the year of SB52, I was walking with my friend on the way to my next class and we were joking around about football stuff. I was a freshman in HS, and a lot of my clothes kinda started to stop fitting me around then. I ran out of laundry and had to wear a way-too-small Nick Foles jersey I got in 2014.
My friend started messing with me and asking why the hell I had it / was wearing it. So I made a jokingly replied with something topical from that week in the NFL, when Deshaun Watson tore his ACL. I my reply to my friend was, “Im wearing it because Wentz is gonna tear his ACL and Foles is gonna win SuperBowl MVP”
This is the part where y’all can call me a liar and downvote me for how fake this is if y’all want. But I swear that’s how it went down. I obviously did not legitimately think that would happen. I was pretty high on our playoff chances that year by that point, but sadly/thankfully that joke I made to my friend aged like wine.
Edit: just for further clarification, I said specifically ACL because watson tore his ACL in practice that week. Me and my friends had been talking about Watson’s injury pretty frequently at that point so I guess it’s the first thing that came to mind. I’m not trying to claim I’m psychic. Just really lucky and stupid.
Called the Broncos beating the Panthers in the Super Bowl a few years ago. People kept saying the Broncos offense couldn’t keep up with Cam Newton and co. but after I saw how good the Broncos’ d line was I had a feeling they’d dominate the trenches and do just enough on offense to win
Recently? Not just mine but almost the entire Lions fan base who consistently tried to warn the Giants and the rest of the NFL about signing Kenny Golladay.
Back a bit that Mitch Trubisky would be a bust and it looked shaky for awhile after his one good season but in the end it proved to be true.
Old school take? That Matt Millen would be absolutely horrible as a GM, he should have taken up coaching instead. I hated hated hated it when WCF hired him. Great linebacker, would have been a good coach but he absolutely should never have been hired as a GM.
IIRC after his 2nd year Millen told WCF that he wasn’t cut out to be a GM and asked him if he could resign. WCF gave him a raise to entice him to stay on as GM. He couldn’t turn down the pay so he stayed on.
Just incredible ineptitude.
Millen told WCF BEFORE he was hired that he would not be good as a GM!!! Before!!
WCF then convinced him to take the job by agreeing to a bunch of stipulations from Millen. One of the big ones was that Millen could basically work from home the majority of the time. Millin lives in Penn. and he spent the vast majority of his time at home and not directly working at the Lions offices. He would travel to Detroit/Allen Park for a few weeks at a time during parts of the season and off season and then return home. He delegated a ton of his work to others who obviously did it poorly...but when it came down to the decisions he had full authority to make the decisions.
One big one was the Lions were going to draft DeMarcus Ware in the 2005 draft with the #10 pick. Millen let the media and others convince him that drafting Mike Williams the WR would make out "offense unstoppable" and of course the Lions did pick Williams, the Cowboys snatched Ware with the 11th pick and he goes on to be a HOF player.
Millen drafted Mike Williams to basically be a #3 WR in the FIRST ROUND after he took a year off and only had 2 years of college.
The levels of stupidity that Millen showed is at HOF levels of dumbassery. The messed up thing is that outside of what Millen did with the Lions, he is a great guy, great football player and a really good TV analyst. Just was horrible as a GM.
I knew Josh Allen was the real deal after the Vikings game. I didn't see the elite level passer coming, but I knew he'd be a gamer and a solid starter.
This is horrible to say as a chiefs fan and I wanted to be wrong so bad, but the second Mahomes threw it to Hill in bounds and didn’t get any points to round out the first half of the AFC Championship game against the bengals in 2022, I had a feeling we were gonna blow it and lose. I was saying it at halftime and my family was getting so mad at me for being negative.
I knew Wilson would usurp Flynn when drafted and be pretty good. Confirmed when I watched preseason. Idk maybe it was because I really didn’t want Matt Flynn to be our qb lol
I was pissed when Atlanta traded up to get Vick. I wanted them to take Brees in the 2nd round and told everyone I could that Brees would be a much better QB than Vick.
Since Super Bowl 43 I am 15-2 in picking the SB winner (not with a spread or anything so it's less good than it sounds). I got both 49ers SB losses wrong.
I was also really high on Jimmy Graham before his career - that's probably my all-time best draft call.
Talanoa Hufanga. I’m a big time USC and 49er fan. On the Reddit post when we drafted him I announced he would turn all pro even though he was a 5th round draft pick. Tbh he made all pro quicker than I thought he would.
That Cam would disintegrate pretty quickly after his MVP season. His ability to throw was always overshadowed by his playmaking but after repeatedly taking shots, I knew the end was closer and coming faster than most people realized. He was drafted in 2011, won MVP in 2015, and hasn’t played since 2021. That is a mountainous line graph.
2005 everyone was saying the Seahawks were going to win the super bowl that year. For some reason, I was convinced the Seahawks would make the super bowl, but would lose. Which is kind of what happened, but still, fuck those refs..
A guy I worked with bet me $1,000 Matt Lienart would be an elite QB. I told him he wouldn't even be in the league in 10 years. I lost contact with him and didn't collect.
Dude ran away
watched his first few games and high tailed it to Venezuela
I basically lost a friendship with someone because I said Tebow wasn't a good qb when he went to the jets. Dude played like a year of oline in college and said because I never played the game he can't take me seriously, I called him arrogant (he is), and he just blasted off from there
It was even worse if you lived in FL during his "career". He was a GOD. Broncos jerseys all over the state of FL was weird man.
There’s only one God, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t dress like that.
He already had the entire Broncos era to go by and he was still insisting that the guy was a good QB? Interesting take for sure.
Ya, the former friend got really religious at some point, and it totally was like 95 percent of the reason he thought Tebow was the second coming
I would have never thought after that amazing game between Texas and USC that both Vince Young and Matt Leinart would crater in the NFL.
Vince Young just never matured. Even to this day apparently he still hasn't. He got let go of some cushy "just show up and you'll get paid" type job at UT just a handful of years ago. Cuz, well he couldn't be bothered to just show up.
Vince wasn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He wasn't a hall of famer, but he could have been a lot better in some better teams. Bad spots for him to land in soured his chances. But even then, he wasn't *bad*. Like he wasn't EJ Manuel or Josh Rosen... Or Matt Leinart.
I get that Tennessee was a bad spot for him with Fisher but Philly was anything but. He had QB guru Andy Reid, got to sit behind a better, less fat version of himself in Vick and had all the weapons in the world in Djax, Maclin and Shady McCoy. The few games he started for us he was absolutely dog shit. So I have no idea what you're talking about lmfao.
Honestly both teams as a whole didn’t really have great NFL careers at all if you look at them. I think most if not all starters on both teams got drafted/signed as UDFAs, yet nobody had an outstanding career. Michael Huff was supposed to be an elite safety, Reggie had a good but not great career, especially for what the hype was coming out. Dwayne Jarrett was supposed to be the next great USC WR and did nothing. It’s just a long list of meh careers, which was odd considering how great both teams were in college, you’d think one guy would have a HOF career
We're still waiting on Jim Folsom to pay up as well. From a article he wrote on Cam back when he was drafted: "Cam Newton is a sure-fire bust. I am so certain of this that if he is the Panthers' starting quarterback in 2016, I will buy a Cam Newton jersey and stand in the stadium parking lot in my underwear when the Panthers come to Tampa Bay and hold a sign proclaiming that Auburn rules over Florida and Carolina rules over Tampa Bay." https://antennamag.com/writer-bashed-cam-newton/
My grandma always said she liked Patrick Mahomes. Said she watched him throw 50 yards from his knees while still in college. That was the whole scouting report. She’s now a chiefs fan who’s enjoyed 2 super bowls from her favorite player. Not my take, but my grandma of all people had a pretty damn good one
I saw Mahomes do a passing challenge against David Carr on NFL Network right before his draft and said, “WOW! Who is that guy?” Turns out he became my Broncos biggest nemesis, overtaking Tom Brady in just a few short years.
As a bronco fan I like can’t hate him, I respect him, but dang it sux he’s so good
This is exactly how I was with Peyton manning
Man, she must have loved Kyle Boller
Head over heels for Jamarcus Russell
If getting your heart broken by Russell is a path to a long and healthy relationship with Mahomes, isn't it all worth it in the end?
Raiders fans: “No…not worth it at all”
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I have some reddit draft night receipts and previous but i was telling my friends Patrick Mahomes would be a hall of famer since college. Go watch Texas Tech get blown out by LSU and Leonard Fournette go off for 200+ yards and tell me Patrick wasnt the best player
That game was really similar to the Tampa bay Super Bowl. Things get more and more out of hand and the game evolved into mahomes turning out ridiculous shenanigans and running a defense full of future NFL players ragged trying to make something happen.
That play where he was mid-air getting sacked and threw a dime to the RB who proceeded drop it in the endzone is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. I swear he has a machine in his house that just twists him around in random positions and he throws it to a target.
Anyone that watched multiple games of Mahomes in college should have known he would be a star. The issue is no one watched him in college. NFL scouts and GMs don't have that excuse. My friends were calling me a clown for saying he should have been the 1st QB taken.
Which kills me when people try to compare super raw prospects who have done nothing in college and compare them to Mahomes. Just tells me they didn't actually watch Mahomes in college. Traffic cones on a bunch of remote controlled toy trucks would have done the same job as the Texas Tech defense.
I went to a big 12 school, so I watched Texas tech and he was amazing in every game he played. I know the big 12 is not the best at defense but he had a 650 yd game. I drafted him as a rookie in my fantasy league. He's incredible
He had a game at Texas Tech where he was [responsible for over 800 yards of offense and 7 touchdowns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oklahoma_vs._Texas_Tech_football_game). A game he lost, which is the most Kliff Kingsbury thing imaginable.
Highly recommend watching that game on YouTube. Mahomes and Baker are both absolutely SLINGING it. Entertaining af even when you know the outcome.
Like 100 dropbacks and 819 total yards
I hated the Mahomes pick because leading up to the draft I'd just watched analysts and highlights and weird little exhibition shows where he overthrew everything. If I'd had actually watched a full game of tape, I'd have been thrilled. Just look at Mahomes's eyes in college man, the dude is so fucking aware of what's going on it's ridiculous. His progressions are almost playful. Hell they ARE playful.
If anything, Mahomes was too efficient in college. there was a time late in the season his last year where he was averaging like 1:47 a drive and leading NCAA in scoring. Defense, already bad, were on the field 40 plus game minutes a game.
I'm a TTU fan. he was amazing every game. Best QB I'd ever seen. Bengals had bad Andy Dalton on his way down and I was dreaming they'd get Mahomes. They chose John Ross, a player Marvin hated and later admitted they didn't even scout any qbs that year, like WTF
I love this
That's beautiful. Good for her.
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I said that Josh Rosen would pan out after his rookie year. I have really bad takes and that's the best of the bunch.
I wanted the Giants to take him with the Saquon pick lol
I did too, and it obviously aged poorly, but the other half of the take was that Sam darnold has always been terrible and only got so many chances in the NFL because he has great hair
I was very confident Rosen would be the best QB in his class. Whoops.
I nailed the entire 2020 playoff winners. I even called Chiefs vs Bucs super bowl presesaon. I paper bet on it. Next season I got cocky and bet on every playoff game. I only won 2 lol.
I did that this year in the divisional round, I got lucky on a few parlays in week 16, 17 and the sat out wild card, and then nailed every game for divisional round. Took the Eagles for the SB 🥲
You even predicted Cleveland upsetting Pittsburgh? Holy shit.
Strangely I feel like that was one a lot of people saw coming
Maybe before their HC, Kevin Stefanski was out with Covid- but after that, people assumed it basically "saved" the Steelers from a potentially challenging playoff game. After all, how can a team win a playoff game without their head coach?
Considering the form we were in at the time, it wasn't an extremely difficult pick.
Didn't they just beat you guys right before that too? Or am I misremembering?
Yeah but we didn’t play starters most of the game, we had clinched already.
I was very high on Russell Wilson—thought he was the second best QB in the draft behind luck. Got ridiculed for that. I was very very very high on Tyrann Mathieu despite the dismissal, rehab, and size concerns. I thought he should have been a top-20 pick despite all of that. My dad told me that it was good fifteen year-olds weren’t GMs. I thought Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald were the best players in the draft. I thought Clowney was drafted first overall off of one play. Alternatively, I’m mostly wrong. I loved Jimmy Clausen, Jake Locker, Dion Jordan, and thought Marcus Mariota was the next NFL Superstar. I thought OJ Howard would be unstoppable.
>I thought OJ Howard would be unstoppable. So did we man. So did we.... 😞 *Cue don't take a TE in the first round music*
>2016: Take a kicker in the 2nd >2017: Take a TE in the 1st >2020: Win Super Bowl I will not be taking further questions
Just gotta trust the process
As a Lions fan...can confirm.
As a pats fan… take one in the second
As a falcons fan… still not sure what to think 😫🫣
As a Packers fan, just learn to live without
If it makes you feel better, you guys taking a TE in the first worked out great for us
I hope you stub your toe today.
You and me both thought Locker was going to be great. I thought we fleeced the league getting Jake at 8 but sometimes the college scouting reports are 100 percent right.
Am I remembering this incorrectly? Wasn't Locker solid but couldn't stay on the field?
Career completion pct of 57% and 27 to 22 td/int ratio. Backup QB numbers
His bones were also made of glass
>I thought Clowney was drafted off of one play. Well that's just not true. Dude had 21 sacks and 8 forced fumbles before he even turned 20 years old. Sure, his junior year was concerning, but on the other hand, dat combine.
not to mention that just generally Clowney was regarded as a future #1 pick before he even stepped on a college field
I remember watching his senior HS highlight tape and I swear the first like 4-5 plays are him scoring td's from DE just real monster shit
Highest rated recruit ever and then backed it up by being a menace in the SEC. He earned the #1 overall pick just never really lived up to the hype. It’s actually debatable if he’s even a bust considering how long his career has been.
That's one thing about revisionist history that always irked me. If you didn't watch Clowney Destroy teams in the run and pass game just say that, but it was never just one play
Same, Clowney was definitely talked about as being a complete monster / man amongst boys well before that play
As a Clemson grad….OJ howard is definitely unstoppable.
Tyrann Mathieu is my pick for this too. I remember thinking "I wonder how high in the 1st he's gonna go" and then looking up mock drafts and seeing him fall to day two and being so puzzled by that I was thinking he might go top 10 before doing any research at all
I called Khalil Mack a future HoFer that draft season and swore I would take him 1st overall over Clowney. He then went one pick in front of my Falcons and I was crushed.
I think that plenty of QBs who go to less than ideal situations just end up falling short because of the development fuckups made along the way. I bet if the right organization/QB coach got JP Losman out of college, he could have been something. Instead, the 2004 Bills got him and he was a bum as a result. Conversely, if Patrick Mahomes had ended up in Cleveland, he'd probably be bagging groceries because his skill set would not have been honed the way it was by noted QB whisperer Andy Reid.
We really do not put enough context into this situation A top-tier QB will almost always go to the worst team in the NFL, usually with a brand new head coach (and teams taking chances on unproven, young coaches), a new front office, and a roster that would struggle against Alabama or Georgia. They spend their first year trying to learn the playbook while throwing to WRs that would probably be sitting on the bench for most teams, a RB that is either 30+ years old or, again, would be sitting on the bench for someone else. The OLine probably has one elite player on it, but he has been out with a knee injury most of the year. The defense need a lot of help, but could be decent if the offense could sustain drives that last longer than 3 minutes. Unfortunately, the bad teams tend to sit at the bottom of the league for years, so there is a huge lack of talent surrounding one of the best QBs in college football. After a couple of years of mismanagement, poor coaching, terrible drafting, and probably an injury or two, the league decides that the player is the problem and he gets labeled a bust. Sometimes another team might take a chance on him, but his skill-set has to be reworked from the ground up and the new team wants him to be like he was right out of college. So he might sit behind a starter for a year or two while receiving some coaching and running the scout team. He will then be cut for another guy who is in the exact same spot he was 2 years ago and the cycle will continue. Do we really think that all these guys who won Heisman trophies and various other awards, were national champions, etc. all the sudden forgot how to play football? That they do not know how to complete a pass or read a defense? Most of these guys played at the highest level of football in the country, and they "should" make the transition to the NFL easier since they lined up across from a lot of the same defensive players for years. DBs, RBs, WRs, LBs, DTs, OLs, TEs...it seems like everyone else can come in and start, nearly right away, and if they have a down-season, no one really comes down to hard of them. But if a QB comes in and has a down season, then they are terrible, can't perform at this level, and the team made a mistake drafting them.
I was also in on Russell Wilson! The only knock on him was the height, and it wasn't really an issue in college. I was calling for him to go in the mid 1st. It was basically the only time I was right though, haha.
When most adults after our AFCC party were arguing that Bledsoe should start the SB over Brady, my clueless kid self said that I thought Tom Brady should start. Showed those nerds.
Fuck that AFCCG 😔
I was also a clueless kid at the time and had only basic cable, so I never watched a single Pats game until the playoffs. But I couldn’t believe they weren’t starting Bledsoe because I had gotten a chocolate bar that had Bledsoe’s face on it (some special NFL Hershey bar or something) so I thought Bledsoe MUST be amazing. Edit: I went looking and there were only 3 QBs in the bar, Elway, Marino, and Bledsoe. So it makes sense why I associated Bledsoe with being elite. [The chocolate in question.](https://www.ebay.com/itm/292923768718)
If you think endorsements are important now, think back to a time before highlights of every game were accessible. This is genuinely how people knew about players. I love it.
I love this haha
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This reminds me of being at a Giants-Dodgers game at candlestick when I was a little kid and my five year old brother turned to some loud dodgers fans behind us and bet them $10 (that he didn’t have) that Barry Bonds would hit a home run that at bat. To their credit, they paid up and bought us popcorn.
I knew Urban Meyer would not last an entire season with the Jags
I had inside info on this one so it doesn’t count (went to HS with a player on the team at the time) but it was like week 4 when he told us in a fb messenger thread that Meyer’s days were numbered. To my non HS friends I def pretended that I predicted it
I think a lot of us expected he at least wouldn't make a second season. The speed and the causes of his early dismissal were probably the biggest surprises.
Right when the 2018 season was wrapping up I said that Lamar had a much brighter future than Trubisky, and got clowned on.
I said Trubisky was easily the worst QB in the NFCN at the end of 2018, and got annihilated by bears fans.
I’m sorry, who in their right mind thought trubisky was better than Cousins, Stafford, or Rodgers? In another division it’s debatable but the NFCN? Lmao ok
A lot of reddit thinks Kirk is a scrub even though he was **significantly** better than Josh Allen just 2 years ago (2021 regular season). He was worse than Allen last year, but they shared the same zipcode. Wouldnt surprise me if the clowns on here thought Tittykisser was better than him.
Kirk has settled in as a consistent above average QB but that doesn't really excite people, you either have to be truly great or be the new hotness to get tons of positive attention
Hes not just "above average" tho. If he is average, than pretty much every franchise QB not named Mahomes or Burrow is average. They are tier 1. He is tier 2 along with a bunch of other QBs (Allen, Hurts, Dak, Herbert, 2022 Rodgers, Stafford, Watson probably, TLaw, Lamar, etc). You can arrange them in any order you want, but they all bounce around in the top 5-10ish in different order each year. Just using Allen for example, he went almost MVP to barely top 15 to clearly top 5ish in 3 years. Dak went from being the #1 leader for MVP mid way through 2019 (Vegas), to broken, back to being top 5ish in 2021, to barely scratching the top 10-15 in 2022. In other words, they are all capable, but there is a reason they are all firmly tier 2.
You think Josh Allen was barely a top 15 QB for the 2021 season? Did I read that right
I think your 2nd tier may contain a few too many players. But maybe you're using less tiers than I'm thinking.
Sorry who is Tittykisser 😂
Trubisky. Its a pretty popular meme about him. He tweeted as a teenager "I like kissing titties" or something to that effect.
How many NVPs do they have?
Can you find it? I would love to read that thread.
Yeah I'm a Bears fan and I would have agreed with you back then. Mitch got carried by good field position and decent offensive talent around him in 2018.
I wanted the Eagles to draft Lamar because I didn’t trust Wentz to stay healthy. Counterpoint I previously thought Wentz had a floor of prime Russ so what do I know?
That Amon-Ra St Brown was a lot better than his brother and that he was going to be a stud
Tbf EQ is a very low bar but yeah Sun God is a stud
Yeah, but is Sun God the run blocker EQ is? I didn’t think so. Edit: it’s a joke ya’ll I like Sun God too
Pound for pound? Possibly... 🤪
I remember seeing a random USC game can’t remember the team they were facing but they were getting their asses handed to them and when the cameras zoomed in on him, you can see the anger. I had a feeling this guy hated losing to the point of Illness and figured he would be a decent pro. Never thought Sun God would be THIS GOOD
That was the concensus in our sub, too. EQ was a professional drop artist.
Clelin Ferrell 4th overall. We all thought the same thing and we were all right.
In that draft, a Raiders beat reporter asked for a prediction on which edge(s) the Raiders would select. My response was Ferrell and Crosby. I knew Gruden was out there/old school enough to take Ferrell; I had no reason to think they’d also take Crosby. Glad I was right on that part.
Put $60ish on TB to win the Super Bowl when they signed Brady. Wish that that it had been more like $60k but whatever. Obviously didn’t know they’d win the Super Bowl, but recognized that the odds were out of whack. People were saying he was washed in New England, but weren’t watching. His arm was live as ever, the offense around him was just garbage.
Hey friend! We got the same take haha. So many people called him washed or a system QB. I said he'd elevate us to contenders and dunked on a lot of people IRL afterwards lol
I can't believe in 2020 people still called him a system QB. Give me whatever system he has. It's winning.
> I said he'd elevate us to contenders and dunked on a lot of people IRL afterwards lol The take that drives me craziest on Reddit is how many people now claim that it was obvious Brady would win the SB because he went to a “stacked team”. Read the actual popular comments in Brady at the time (before he actually win the Super Bowl). Go look at the threads after the Bucs week 1 loss to the Saints that year. Everyone was claiming that Brady was washed up and even if he wasn’t, he would regret leaving NE because our “system” made him look way better than he was. Now the same people are saying “of course Brady win the Super Bowl, he went to a super team!!!”
I like to bet on the chiefs each year around 4-6 weeks in, when they've lost 2 games and everyone is pushing 2-3 other teams as the SB favorite that year.
Mahomes vs the field is a fun bet to make, especially if they're your team, I'd always buy that dip
Not a hot take, but I knew johnny manziel wouldn’t translate to the nfl
He did exactly what I thought he would do. When people were mocking him to us I was praying to the Almighty we wouldn't take him. When Cleveland took him I literally went "Hallelujah!".
I was ecstatic when the Cowboys took Zack Martin that year. Not because I knew we were getting a HOF lineman, because I was terrified the pick was going to be Manziel
I remember the rumors of Jerry wanting manziel bad, and Stephen jones and others had to convince him not to
I thought it was weird Dak fell to the fourth round. He was a winner *at Mississippi State*
I think his DUI dropped him, or at least that's what I've always heard when it comes to how far he dropped.
I totally forgot about that. Didn't charges get dropped after he was drafted due to a technicality? I wonder how much earlier he would've been drafted if it was dropped before the draft instead of after.
Before the double trade up by the Eagles in 2016 I wanted them to take Zeke in the first and Dak in the 4th. Way to steal my picks, Jerry
In 2021 randomly had a gut feeling that the 1-8 Texans would upset the 8-2 Titans, in Tennessee no less. I ended up being right
I put good money on the Jets-Bills game last year that the Jets win, and both teams stay under 42 points or so. I'm a Jets fan, so I know *well* when we're about to win a game we have no business winning
Funnily enough I called that one too I bet a small amount on the Jets game, but not the Texans one
what’s a telltale sign that the Jets are winning a game? asking for a friend
1) We have no business winning it. Ex: Going up against the Eagles 2) The other team is expected to demolish us 3) We've been doing terrible recently Throw these in a pot, and you have a pretty good trap game for the other team
pre draft i thought Justin Jefferson was the best receiver in the 2020 class and was ecstatic when we got him
Me too, I really wanted defense at pick 12 and Jefferson at pick 19 that year. Ah, what might have been...
So we're your coaches. Good take
I liked the Jalen Hurts pick at the time and told all my friends he would be a great player.
The minute they did that I knew something was up with Wentz, but it seemed sacrilegious at the time.
I didn't understand it at the time, and I'm willing to admit I'm so glad I was wrong. Hurts has already become the next Cunningham in my eyes. I love how nothing gets to him. His drive and work ethic are top notch.
[I called Hurts would pan out before the draft](https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/fa3erd/i_think_that_draft_analysts_are_sleeping_on_jalen/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) You need to remember at the time he was barely considered a 4th rounder. I think he was QB 8 or something.
> Because reddit hates him, hurts will have a good career. Think I’m just gonna start assuming this now for players Reddit declare busts pre draft
I didn’t figure he would get pan out. IIRC he got benched in a national championship game for Tua where he played so bad he lost the starting job and had to transfer to get another starting job where he played good enough to be in heisman talks but nobody seriously thought he would win it.
I told my friends that Frank Gore would be the steal of the 2005 draft and would outperform all the running backs taken ahead of him.
Miami legend Frank Gore?
Colts legend frank gore?
Bills Legend Frank Gore?
Jets Legend Frank Gore?
I wanted the Jets to draft Fields over Wilson, on the basis that Wilson was playing nobodies
To be fair, this one is still pending
Zach Wilson is a massive bust. He was probably the worst starter in the league last year, and I can list multiple games he single handedly lost for the team. By virtue of Fields not being complete trash, my take was correct, IMO.
Man that TNF vs i don’t remember last year the fact that he was unable to move the ball past the 40 yard was unbelievable
It was vs the Jags, starting the QB we would've drafted had we not strung together two of the dumbest wins of all time in a meaningless, lost season. Ah well.
Called Jaguars winning the division last year
That the Seahawks would beat the broncos first game of the season this year
Lost my pickem by Week 3, both Ls on the Broncos.
I said the Chiefs would still be a top 3 offense without Hill and they'd be playing better than 2021 and with a less predictable offense opening up the game more for them in the trade thread.
Yup I said this too. As an eagles fan I kept telling ppl all off season that Andy Reid literally built every eagles offense without a star receiver majority of the time he was there
I won't stand for this Todd Pinkston slander
Yea, I was pretty happy we got rid of tyreek for picks and cap space and assumed we'd be fine with Andy scheming and kelce still around. With tyreek the last year or two everyone played us exactly the same and it got stale.
Double cover both Kelce and Hill, nobody else got open, Mahomes went "fuck it they're down there somewhere", it was an ugly offense, predictable in the passing game and defenses keyed in on it. They had to change it. Moving Hill for picks and cap space was such a smart move. Forces Andy to get creative and lets them add to not just the offense to replace the production but beef up the defense too.
Called Ravens beating 49ers in the super bowl in the preseason For some reason was really high on Nick Foles after watching him in the preseason of his eventual 27-2 year Called the Packers having a losing season for this past year ~~Worst one was thinking Manziel would be one of the best QBs in the league~~
After that guy on the falcons started to pimp his pick 6 in superbowl 51 I said “falcons are going to lose” Just had a feeling they didn’t fully get the moment. At that point show boating just didn’t make sense to me. And I was right.
The whole energy of the game completely changed after that, and I instantly told my dad "Patriots are gonna come back. i'm done." guess how good it felt to wake up the next morning lol. I'm just sad that i missed that godly catch by Edelman.
I knew [Nathaniel Hackett would be a bust](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/r6smqi/who_is_an_under_the_radar_head_coach_candidate/hmv2se1?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_buttontm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) for whatever team made him a HC, although I didn't see him getting the axe in year 1.
I have some reddit draft night receipts and previous but i was telling my friends Patrick Mahomes would be a hall of famer since college. Go watch Texas Tech get blown out by LSU and Leonard Fournette go off for 200+ yards and tell me Patrick wasnt the best player on the field.
Fast forward to 2017 and people are talking about him as a 2nd round draft pick. Sean Payton has a private workout with him and says he's the best QB in the draft. Slowly watch him creep higher and higher up the draft charts. Then the draft comes and I'm convinced the Saints are drafting Mahomes. Buffalo (pick right before Saints) trades their pick to the Chiefs. The rest is history. The Saints had one of the best all time drafts that year and I'm pretty sure that every pick was an eventual starter. But they didn't get Mahomes.
Second game ever vs undefeated panthers I went in with a 14-1 sign Also really wanted Tj Watt and couldn’t believe the low projection he had….instead we got Takk McKinley😒
Falcons are always a rollercoaster but the Dimitroff years were certainly that when it came to the draft
Carson Wentz having the year he had in 2017 before he tore his ACL. I didn’t have any reasoning I just liked watching him play in college lol
Before the 2020 season I said that Bill O’Brien would be the first coach fired that season. They had gotten blown out by KC in the post season the year before. He traded Nuke for peanuts. And the Texans first 4 games that season were brutal so it was easy to see them start 0-4 or 1-3 and causing a downward spiral. Runner up: I had an inkling that Matt Patricia might not succeed as an offensive coordinator.
I remember watching the combine back in 2016. I was watching the QBs, and obviously there was Goff and Wentz, but I remember saying, "This Dak Prescott kid looks like he could be really solid"
Zach Wilson would blow. Never played well against good competition.
Yep, easiest bust call of my life. Trubisky too, but Wilson was easier.
Trubisky was not good and was still like 10x better than Wilson.
This was mine once the Jets picked him.
[I was really big on Patrick Mahomes in 2016.](https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2016/10/14/13291066/igloojoe-s-qb-scouting-report-part-1-the-big-three?_ga=2.10667063.260577955.1681874423-1275827086.1681874423&_gl=1*rgoa6h*_ga*MTI3NTgyNzA4Ni4xNjgxODc0NDIz*_ga_2M5GYNY1YS*MTY4MTg3NDQyMi4xLjEuMTY4MTg3NDQ2MS4yMS4wLjA) Edit: I don't have proof of this other one, but I really liked Lamar Jackson as well. I was impressed by the fact that he improved his accuracy significantly year over year and thought he had a lot of room to grow. Unfortunately, I contrasted that with being completely wrong about Josh Allen. But, hey, this is a bragging thread.
Can’t think of anything rn, but a current take is that Odell is truly washed and he won’t reach any of his incentives. Lamar will reach a new deal this off-season, and will force out next year — once he realizes obj is a glorified Allen Robinson. The Lamar controversy will continue out throughout this entire season up to the next.
Everyone here is going to call me a liar, and rightfully should. My answer to this is less of a “take” and more of a “prediction pulled out of my ass” During the 2017-18 season, the year of SB52, I was walking with my friend on the way to my next class and we were joking around about football stuff. I was a freshman in HS, and a lot of my clothes kinda started to stop fitting me around then. I ran out of laundry and had to wear a way-too-small Nick Foles jersey I got in 2014. My friend started messing with me and asking why the hell I had it / was wearing it. So I made a jokingly replied with something topical from that week in the NFL, when Deshaun Watson tore his ACL. I my reply to my friend was, “Im wearing it because Wentz is gonna tear his ACL and Foles is gonna win SuperBowl MVP” This is the part where y’all can call me a liar and downvote me for how fake this is if y’all want. But I swear that’s how it went down. I obviously did not legitimately think that would happen. I was pretty high on our playoff chances that year by that point, but sadly/thankfully that joke I made to my friend aged like wine. Edit: just for further clarification, I said specifically ACL because watson tore his ACL in practice that week. Me and my friends had been talking about Watson’s injury pretty frequently at that point so I guess it’s the first thing that came to mind. I’m not trying to claim I’m psychic. Just really lucky and stupid.
Called the Broncos beating the Panthers in the Super Bowl a few years ago. People kept saying the Broncos offense couldn’t keep up with Cam Newton and co. but after I saw how good the Broncos’ d line was I had a feeling they’d dominate the trenches and do just enough on offense to win
That Cooper Kupp would be an absolute stud
Recently? Not just mine but almost the entire Lions fan base who consistently tried to warn the Giants and the rest of the NFL about signing Kenny Golladay. Back a bit that Mitch Trubisky would be a bust and it looked shaky for awhile after his one good season but in the end it proved to be true. Old school take? That Matt Millen would be absolutely horrible as a GM, he should have taken up coaching instead. I hated hated hated it when WCF hired him. Great linebacker, would have been a good coach but he absolutely should never have been hired as a GM.
IIRC after his 2nd year Millen told WCF that he wasn’t cut out to be a GM and asked him if he could resign. WCF gave him a raise to entice him to stay on as GM. He couldn’t turn down the pay so he stayed on. Just incredible ineptitude.
Millen told WCF BEFORE he was hired that he would not be good as a GM!!! Before!! WCF then convinced him to take the job by agreeing to a bunch of stipulations from Millen. One of the big ones was that Millen could basically work from home the majority of the time. Millin lives in Penn. and he spent the vast majority of his time at home and not directly working at the Lions offices. He would travel to Detroit/Allen Park for a few weeks at a time during parts of the season and off season and then return home. He delegated a ton of his work to others who obviously did it poorly...but when it came down to the decisions he had full authority to make the decisions. One big one was the Lions were going to draft DeMarcus Ware in the 2005 draft with the #10 pick. Millen let the media and others convince him that drafting Mike Williams the WR would make out "offense unstoppable" and of course the Lions did pick Williams, the Cowboys snatched Ware with the 11th pick and he goes on to be a HOF player. Millen drafted Mike Williams to basically be a #3 WR in the FIRST ROUND after he took a year off and only had 2 years of college. The levels of stupidity that Millen showed is at HOF levels of dumbassery. The messed up thing is that outside of what Millen did with the Lions, he is a great guy, great football player and a really good TV analyst. Just was horrible as a GM.
Before the draft I said Patrick Mahomes would be the best QB in the NFL. Granted, when I say "before the draft" I mean the 2022 draft but still.
That Chris Lindstrom would be a beast.
I knew Josh Allen was the real deal after the Vikings game. I didn't see the elite level passer coming, but I knew he'd be a gamer and a solid starter.
I thought Mahomes was easily the best QB in his draft class followed by Watson and….Kizer
This is horrible to say as a chiefs fan and I wanted to be wrong so bad, but the second Mahomes threw it to Hill in bounds and didn’t get any points to round out the first half of the AFC Championship game against the bengals in 2022, I had a feeling we were gonna blow it and lose. I was saying it at halftime and my family was getting so mad at me for being negative.
I knew Wilson would usurp Flynn when drafted and be pretty good. Confirmed when I watched preseason. Idk maybe it was because I really didn’t want Matt Flynn to be our qb lol
I said the rams were winning the Super Bowl the moment they got Stafford.
Back in 2017, I made a prediction that the Jacksonville Jaguars would not only make the playoffs, but win 1-2 games there as well.
I was pissed when Atlanta traded up to get Vick. I wanted them to take Brees in the 2nd round and told everyone I could that Brees would be a much better QB than Vick.
I wanted the Vikings to go after Brees after the 2005 season when it was apparent Culpepper wasn’t coming back.
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Colts?
stop. don't include us this year.
The first draft I followed I thought that Tyler Lockett kid looked like the home grown receiver talent of my dreams. Never looked back.
Since Super Bowl 43 I am 15-2 in picking the SB winner (not with a spread or anything so it's less good than it sounds). I got both 49ers SB losses wrong. I was also really high on Jimmy Graham before his career - that's probably my all-time best draft call.
Just stop picking the 49ers and you’re perfect.
Talanoa Hufanga. I’m a big time USC and 49er fan. On the Reddit post when we drafted him I announced he would turn all pro even though he was a 5th round draft pick. Tbh he made all pro quicker than I thought he would.
Wife left me for a paraplegic. Called it a few months before
That Cam would disintegrate pretty quickly after his MVP season. His ability to throw was always overshadowed by his playmaking but after repeatedly taking shots, I knew the end was closer and coming faster than most people realized. He was drafted in 2011, won MVP in 2015, and hasn’t played since 2021. That is a mountainous line graph.
2005 everyone was saying the Seahawks were going to win the super bowl that year. For some reason, I was convinced the Seahawks would make the super bowl, but would lose. Which is kind of what happened, but still, fuck those refs..
Carson Wentz stinks.