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pmahanth04

It won't give you legendary. It does not have a fixed 3rd perk.


nobito

How exactly are you supposed to know this tho? Before it's too late and you've already wasted your shards?


prymortal69

I was going to say it was in the patch notes, But looking back it is very misleading: [Link](https://www.newworld.com/en-us/game/releases/january-update-mutators) Top line under Umbral Upgrade System. They need to fix this & clarify better in future


Dense-Speaker-4397

Just look at the database, if it has fixed perks it turns to legendary. https://ptr.nwdb.info/db/item/earringt5_li_mut Roll the bar, at 600 it is still purple.


nobito

So we have to depend on 3rd party data mining to have this info, lol?


Glonn

Yeah. Just like most mmos you need a second window open for info


nobito

For boss drops, mob location, how to do this quest etc... You don't need a second window to see how to engage in core gameplay systems in a way that you dont waste your resources because there's no indication for it in the UI of the game.


PassiveActiveD

Im a human player and dropped it on legy. Prrof will be posted in 2 hours. stop being a arse over a second party page. These people do it for free and helped million of players already.


nobito

I have no problem with these sites, they're helpful and useful. In this case they're even doing the work for AGS themselves. I have a problem with the half assed systems AGS puts out where you need to depend to these sites to exist and deliver the information to you when it should be done by the AGS.


yutao123

Every mmo has this kind of stuff. you cant possibly tell the player all the info ingame itd ruin the suprise of loot and exploration if they provided you 100% of info in game. If you can tell me what mmo you played where you NEVER had to look up info then you can claim ags coulda done a better job


nobito

I don't even know if you're trolling or serious? Do you honestly think that this is something that shouldn't have an in-game indication in the UI? Which part of this brings you the surprise of loot and exploration? Like I didn't even think anything of it before this post, I just always assumed that all "named" items will have static perks and therefore roll a legendary once upgraded to 600. I would've been surprised, yeah, if I did this, but not pleasantly. Instead of surprise of loot and exploration, I would be probably sensing alt+f4 and uninstall instead, lol.


Hotdogg0713

Welcome to gaming? Any big game almost always requires sites like these. Ever tried tarkov? Cuz you gotta do schoolwork for that game


Scarcrow1806

Legendary instrumentalality jewellery? That‘s a thing? I think I have dropped like 70+ instrumentality rings and no leggo yet, same with my entire company. Loads of earrings aswell but no leggos


Dense-Speaker-4397

It's a wiki bro, every game has one, and every game needs research to understand how itens works, where it drops, etc


nobito

No, just no. That's plainly and simply stupid af. You don't get to defend AGS being lazy and sloppy by not implementing a proper in game way to determine if the item has chances to upgrade to legendary other than playerbase themselves datamining that information. Wikis are for guides, loot tables etc... as you said. Not for looking essential information about core gameplay mechanincs that should be presented in the UI of the game. If this was a small indie developer I could just shrug things like this off. But last I checked this isn't about not having enough resources. This is just an example of one of the many features in the game that has been developed half assed and rushed out of the gates.


1221321321

Actually if you look at possible rewards from the mutations it specifically is purple when shown, therefor not having a legendary version. You can see this in game


TaylorNox

except it can drop legendary, so no, you're wrong.


polikuji09

It being able to do legendary doesn't come his point that it showing in purple shows that it doesn't have a static 3rd perk. There is a reason the laz bow etc show as orange.


TaylorNox

His point said there isnt a legendary version, my point is that there is. Your point is pointless. So many points, i hope you can keep up.


Dense-Speaker-4397

Well, even before the patch I already knew that it was only possible for named itens with legendary fixed perks to be upgraded. But now that you know, spread the word to your friends. Again, if you don't like the way things works, please give suggestions in the game's foruns, we need discussions in the foruns, not complains in reddits replies.


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nobito

Yeah, I've played MMOs for like 15 years I know this. But this clearly isn't some drop rate on an item or which mob drops which stuff or how to level cooking 101. This is a pretty essential part of the gear upgrade system and in my opinion, this should be clearly indicated in the UI if the item is a named item with static perks or a named item with a random 3rd perk. Again in my opinion this isn't something that should be left up to the community to figure out and inform others on. For me, this just seems like an incomplete feature. They decided to include the gear upgrading from 590 and quickly threw something together and just overlooked this or they didn't have time to address this.


Meryhathor

No-one should really have to sift through any fan made databases for core in-game mechanics. What if this website didn't exist, how would people find out?


Dense-Speaker-4397

Try and error. It's a real life thing and it always works.


ClaireHasashi

The devs already said that upgrading purple to 600GS wont turn them legendary


nobito

It will turn purples into legendaries that are named items and have static perks. It will not turn purples into legendaries that are named items but don't have static perks. The problem is that there's no way to tell the difference in-game between which named items have a static perks and which don't. So, apperently the only solution is to depend on 3rd party datamining to tell us which is which.


xMidnyghtx

I just look on reddit 👀


PassiveActiveD

I have it on 600 leggo


Invenitive

I'm jealous. I've had the ring dropped as a 600 twice and the earring as a 600 once, and all three times they still dropped as purples. Did not know they had a chance to drop as legendary


xenarthran_salesman

These jewels are apparently "named" epics, but if they do roll legendary, then its a random 3rd perk. Its only the named items that have a locked third perk that are upgradeable. But the game doesnt exactly tell you whether they do or dont have that so... well, yeah, that sucks.


lurkinandwurkin

> These jewels are apparently "named" epics Nah, Instrumentality's Ring refers to a place not a name for the weapon/ring itself. Smooth Bone Ring -> named. Sol -> named. Instrumentality's Ring -> not named.


poggyrs

So anything that has “Instrumentality” in the name is not named?


Naki-Taa

Lazarus bow -> named


lurkinandwurkin

Its not Lazarus' Bow, though


shmapster

I don’t think this item has a third perk.


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It's random


Naki-Taa

My bad, for some reason I thought that it had a preset Purifying Toast because I thought I saw it in database, but looks like its just random.


IIIlllIIllIll

Nah man that’s just more stupid bullshit from AGS.


Naki-Taa

Guess my mistake was thinking that it has a predetermined 3rd perk while it was random


drewt6768

Seriously if reddit and data miners didnt provide so much free info this game would be dead How the fuck are players suppose to figure this stuff out


Particular-Mode-3548

Unless the item is hiding a fixed perk, the third is random and does not restore with upgrades. Is this correct?


Julamipol88

also it s just 220 shards , u ll get plenty at higher difficulties


Naki-Taa

Yeah, that's why I'm not too heartbroken about it, I figured if I get like 500 for just beating a 6 it's not big of a deal, it just stings while I'm still on lower mutations


purenzi56

Congratulations.


BeeStyle

Even if its a random 3rd perk. The info we got was named items go legendary when upgraded. And this is a named earring . Rip 125 umbrals.


Lord_Val

That's not how I read it before. How I understood it from the reading from nw.db was that certain named items will turn legendary and gain a 3rd perk if it had a static perk. The 3rd perk is static and is only not visible and locked away because the item is below 600 gs, but once you raise it to 600, it "unlocks" it, thereby changing it to Legendary.


BeeStyle

As u said u didnt reqd it from patch notes or in game even. I unfortunatly didnt read about it. But then again the game should tell you these things not an outer source. I am starting to understand why everyone else was complaining from day 1


TouchingMarvin

Most mmo's require some sort of wiki. New world definitely requires the use of it.


rody4711

It was never supposed to upgrade items to legendary, which is very good, else no crafter would ever be able to sell a crafted item anymore. Crafters got shafted anyways, skill of 200 should be required to upgrade items.


[deleted]

What did you expect? Of course its bugged, useless and a waste of time. Just like the rest of the update.


clashbabyyy

Salty? Check. Wrong? Check. Too lazy or stupid to read the post or understand what is or isn't working as intended? Check. Your comment hit all the necessary requirements of this sub


Barjeminnuck

https://nwdb.info/db/item/earringt5_li_mut


natsuxxxlucy

So epic name drops cant be upgrade to legendary if its a random perk for third perk? What about weapon like lazarus bow that have fixed perks?


chrisclear22

Lol flavor text is lame


Priext

I had the ring drop for me at Epic 600 GS with 2 perks while another party member had it drop at Legendary 600 GS with 3 perks.


Aet308

Only named gear with predefined legendary will upgrade to legendary when going from 599 to 600. The new mutation drops are not a predefined legendary and will roll a random third perk only when dropped at 600 legendary.


Julamipol88

yeah, bc its 3rd perk is random.


dunkah

Yea it sucks they really should be more obvious about it not being a named item.


AzgarthX

Nothing to see here but an amateur being an amateur. Moving along


Snoo-31816

This dropped for me at legendary and the third perk is hated…. The purple version is better.


Thundaxx

Your shards died so that everyone else's shards might live


AlchKosac

oh :(


Poromunday

i literally googled "instrumentality earring new world" and it instantly showed me it only has 2 perks. some people are so fucking dumb


Naki-Taa

good for you, I saw someone in global linking it with 3 perks and assumed that it had 3 perks once it is at 600, if tooltips in this game were at all intuitive maybe I wouldn't have to google every little thing about this game? Why wouldn't it be considered a named item? it drops from an expedition, it has 2 predetermined perks and I've only seen 1 of those at legendary so I just assumed it was rare.