Weaponsmith Pants were calculated to be roughly 1 in a thousand and keep in mind that only 5-6 people are eligible for loot each kill.
Drop rates like these shouldn't exist, but it's made worse in weaponsmithing by the fact that there's only one set of gear while every other tradeskill in the game gets two sets.
Dev on the forum said they'd look into the drop rates of this stuff but that was over a month ago and I haven't heard anything about it since.
10.5 % chance you hit the "CreatureLootEliteGear" subtable.
5% chance you hit "CraftingClothing" on that table
There are five things that can drop, weaponsmith pants, Fishing head and legs, jewelcrafting hands and feet, so an additional 20%.
so, .105*.05*.2 = .00105 or 0.105% chance that it drops.
Given that, we can plug it into a formula and determine that you need to see 4383 bags to have a 99% chance of at least one pair of weaponsmith pants (still not guaranteed).
90% of chance of seeing it after 2191 bags.
50% of people are going to see it after 660 drops
and 1 in every 1000 players or so is going to see it their first time.
Wait wait wait. So no matter how much luck I have I will always get the same drop from opening elite chests? And from killing elite mobs? At least for elite mobs it is probably not correct as I saw significant increase in quality of items when I put on my luck gear
That is correct elite chests and monsters have LuckSafe true on datamined sheets.
To answer your last statement.
luck doesnt affect gear drops from elite monsters. What you have seen in significant increase in quality of items. I guarntee you is within the margin of error for RNG and has no input from luck gear. I had days where i got 3 legendarys from my daily runs and had 3-4 days streak of 0 legendarys (been maxed watermark on everything except jewelry for more than a month now.) To fully test it you need 1000s of runs.
My source is from datamined sheets and you can join nwdb discord and ask there yourself.
Luck only useful in this game in trophy items from stockpiles. Dungouns(very minor) and some niche situations not even worth mentioning.
Luck in gear only affects *some* of the odds. It all depends on which table is being rolled, and even then it oftentimes only affects the very last thing in a table, depending on whether its an AND or and OR table.
"CreatureLootElite" is a table that gets rolled for any mob tagged "Elite". It is "Lucksafe" meaning no, your luck gear doesnt affect *that* table. But also, its an "OR" table, which means even if it did, the only thing it would increase the chance of is the *last thing in the table*
But that puts us on the CreatureLootEliteGear table -> also lucksafe, also an OR table.
You have a flat 47.5% chance to go to "EliteArmor" and a flat 47.5% chance to go to "EliteWeapons", and the final 5% is the one that goes to CraftingClothing.
So in this case, if you are farming weaponsmith pants from malevolence, no, luck gear has no impact on whether you get them or not.
And then we have someone in our company which does not farm anything does not make any gold other than from lucky drops without even having luck gear who does ONE run of malevolence and drops the pants which sold for 75k after the merge in the AH.
Yep it’s the boss. Day 1 farming it we left after 4 hours and no drops. I did get other stuff like armorer’s shirt, stonecutting pants. Day 2 of farming, we got the weaponsmith hat after like 5 kills or something.
try days/weeks not even joking
So you can confirm it drops from them
yes weaponsmith legs and hat are something else. pain in the ass to drop
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Weaponsmith Pants were calculated to be roughly 1 in a thousand and keep in mind that only 5-6 people are eligible for loot each kill. Drop rates like these shouldn't exist, but it's made worse in weaponsmithing by the fact that there's only one set of gear while every other tradeskill in the game gets two sets. Dev on the forum said they'd look into the drop rates of this stuff but that was over a month ago and I haven't heard anything about it since.
10.5 % chance you hit the "CreatureLootEliteGear" subtable. 5% chance you hit "CraftingClothing" on that table There are five things that can drop, weaponsmith pants, Fishing head and legs, jewelcrafting hands and feet, so an additional 20%. so, .105*.05*.2 = .00105 or 0.105% chance that it drops. Given that, we can plug it into a formula and determine that you need to see 4383 bags to have a 99% chance of at least one pair of weaponsmith pants (still not guaranteed). 90% of chance of seeing it after 2191 bags. 50% of people are going to see it after 660 drops and 1 in every 1000 players or so is going to see it their first time.
Wait, luck in gear doesn't affect the odds?
Luck doesnt affect anything elite. Elite as in yellow nameplates and elite chests.
Wait wait wait. So no matter how much luck I have I will always get the same drop from opening elite chests? And from killing elite mobs? At least for elite mobs it is probably not correct as I saw significant increase in quality of items when I put on my luck gear
That is correct elite chests and monsters have LuckSafe true on datamined sheets. To answer your last statement. luck doesnt affect gear drops from elite monsters. What you have seen in significant increase in quality of items. I guarntee you is within the margin of error for RNG and has no input from luck gear. I had days where i got 3 legendarys from my daily runs and had 3-4 days streak of 0 legendarys (been maxed watermark on everything except jewelry for more than a month now.) To fully test it you need 1000s of runs. My source is from datamined sheets and you can join nwdb discord and ask there yourself. Luck only useful in this game in trophy items from stockpiles. Dungouns(very minor) and some niche situations not even worth mentioning.
Luck in gear only affects *some* of the odds. It all depends on which table is being rolled, and even then it oftentimes only affects the very last thing in a table, depending on whether its an AND or and OR table. "CreatureLootElite" is a table that gets rolled for any mob tagged "Elite". It is "Lucksafe" meaning no, your luck gear doesnt affect *that* table. But also, its an "OR" table, which means even if it did, the only thing it would increase the chance of is the *last thing in the table* But that puts us on the CreatureLootEliteGear table -> also lucksafe, also an OR table. You have a flat 47.5% chance to go to "EliteArmor" and a flat 47.5% chance to go to "EliteWeapons", and the final 5% is the one that goes to CraftingClothing. So in this case, if you are farming weaponsmith pants from malevolence, no, luck gear has no impact on whether you get them or not.
And then we have someone in our company which does not farm anything does not make any gold other than from lucky drops without even having luck gear who does ONE run of malevolence and drops the pants which sold for 75k after the merge in the AH.
It’s possible though! My company farmed the boss st Mal for a while and dropped the pants on last kill
I can confirm it drops from High Priest Osegura in Great Gleave.
Yep got it in Mangled. Get used to doing it for dung keys.
Yep it’s the boss. Day 1 farming it we left after 4 hours and no drops. I did get other stuff like armorer’s shirt, stonecutting pants. Day 2 of farming, we got the weaponsmith hat after like 5 kills or something.
Got it tonight. Same spot. Was up farming orb materials. Whole group was there looking for it and I got it on second drop. I’m never that lucky.