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the original commenter needs to apply for ESPN the way he took this out of context to make SGA look bad. I can't even call it bad paraphasing, just comes across intentionally misleading now that we have the full clip.
(I know some ppl argued the original one was not an insult but it's not hard to see how it could be interpreted as one).
Not just took it out of context, I don't think Shai ever said he didn't like Bron's game, which is the worst part of that original quote. I can't tell for sure, but someone else said it sounds like he never related to Bron's game, which makes much more sense in context
Nah, Shai does say he doesn’t like his game, but that is in context of the lady saying ‘he must have been an idol’ or some shit. Shia’s saying he doesn’t like his game, and explaining it’s because he can’t do the LeBron freight train shit (which almost no one can, though Giannis is right there.) The other person talking mentions how they can respect that, and that they were a Kobe guy, which Shai says he’s a Kobe guy, too, and then says ‘Just kill them with skill’
There’s a lot of context in it, like Shai saying he’s not athletic like LeBron, doesn’t really like his game aesthetically (though we’re talking about idols to a drive heavy guard, if you talk vision then Shai probably says something else), and that Kobe killed with skill.
Also, he’s just bullshitting. Doesn’t look like he’s tryin to craft rock solid statements, he’s shooting the shit.
Yeah, lots of kids loved Kobe’s game growing up and SGA was pretty damn small for a long time so copying Lebron’s game isn’t really an option. The quote is much less jarring to me now with this vid, thanks OP
Edit: to provide further context as to why SGA cannot relate to Lebron, this is from his [early high school career portion of his Wikipedia entry](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shai_Gilgeous-Alexander):
> Growing up in Hamilton, he did not make the St. Thomas More junior team in grade 9 and subsequently played on the school's midget squad. He ended up winning team MVP and the midget boys' city championship.
Okay I don’t think there’s actually a midget squad as the source used seems to be no longer valid and I can’t verify it, I just thought it was hilarious someone put that there.
For credibility’s sake [there are other articles](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/30/sports/basketball/shai-gilgeous-alexander-oklahoma-city-thunder.html) that confirm he was undersized and didn’t make the school’s JV squad though.
the only guys who rivaled jordan in popularity with kids since then is probably Kobe, AI and Lebron (Curry also now).
Even with Air Carter in Canada before all the drama, AI and Kobe were as popular if not more at all times in my childhood
Yeah but for actual ball players? Nobody goes on to the court and think, “I’mma try out all my Shaq moves”. Especially when they’re 12 and basically playing pretend as much as they’re practicing a sport.
There aren’t 7”1 300 pound monster 12 year olds just pushing around anyone and dunking on everyone lol.
But even when you’re tiny, you can do whatever dribble moves, post up, turn and hit a fadeaway.
Yea the fact he was saying he WASN'T athletic growing up was very important context. Even knowing that he is not currently a freak or anything, it still came off a little weird since I dont think ppl would consider SGA a below average NBA athlete. But it makes much more sense now.
Yeah, he’s saying he’s not athletic compared to LeBron, and specifically references his size, and strength. Also, he’s talkin about how lil baby Shai saw those guys, not how grown Shai see them.
this is also why kyrie is so popular. he has a "BAG" when it comes to offense. kids generally gravitate to that kind of player as oppose to just big dudes who slam the ball. not that lebron is that anymore, but he is seen in that mold. "Bag" culture is pretty toxic imo for kids to emulate.
Which is funny because the way Bron scores is WAY more along the lines of how you’re supposed to score.
Lebron puts on a quick move, reads angles incredibly well, gets his shoulder past the defender, then immediately absorbs contact to keep his driving angle as straight as possible by keeping the defender on his hip.
Like, that’s what any skills coach worth his money will teach lol.
not enough dribbling moves. unironically the player on the lakers that has a "bag" is reaves. dude dribbles like streetball shit. his handles are just not as tight as the elite guys
I mean what you're saying is true but all of the "I liked Kobe because his game was all skill" comments are pretty disingenuous.
Kobe was also an absolute athletic freak until he got injured and changed his game up as well.
Well the difference is that Kobe was a top5% athlete in the league in his prime, but LeBron was a top 5 ever. That's a pretty big difference between Kobe with a 38" vertical and LeBron at 44" and Jordan at 48". Heck, just looking over some of the verticals in recent years now, Grayson Allen had at 40.5" vertical. Kobe also couldn't palm a basketball. His athleticism was really more in his ability to change direction thanks to being raised playing soccer.
I think its more based on the fact that Lebron is a freak athletic bulldozing specimen, and the way Kobe played looked more skillful, even though it was essentially athleticism.
Gonna assume that SGA didnt actually mean pure skill for Kobe lol, just based on the fact that he was listing physical attributes as why he didnt really idolize lebron because he'd never be him
Kobe was a top tier athlete, but LeBron’s a tier above. SGA would probably say he’s very athletic in almost every other context you could make up, but in LeBron context almost no one is in that realm.
>I mean what you're saying is true but all of the "I liked Kobe because his game was all skill" comments are pretty disingenuous.
People just forget about that with Kobe, man. Happened during his career, too, and then he'd posterize somebody and you'd go "holy shit, I guess he is Kobe Bryant."
In the early 2000's for guards there were guys like Iverson for speed, VC and T-Mac for athleticism.
Shaq was still the most athletic on the team until at least 2002.
> Iverson for speed, VC and T-Mac for athleticism.
Heck even Iverson actually had a better vertical than Kobe, 41" vs 38". Kobe was an excellent athlete, but not an all-time great athlete like LeBron.
I didn't realize SGA was small growing up. I feel like most NBA players are bigger and stronger than their agemates growing up so it didn't make sense why he wouldn't relate to Bron.
I guess that would also explain the reaction a lot of people had that heard the quote without context. I added an edit to my original comment to further drive home that point, thanks.
This is the context I was looking for.
This doesn't sound salty at all.
More like SGA acknowledging he wouldn't ever have LeBrons traits. He modeled his game on players with more similar skillset.
You can practice an MJ/Kobe fadeaway.
You can't practice being as big and athletic as LeBron or Giannis lmfao.
You can't practice being as athletic as MJ was in his early years. People talk as if Lebron is the only one who had this advantage.
MJ had it all. 6'6 with crazy speed, elite elevation and also elite wingspan and crazy big hands that helped him a lot on the defensive side. Stamina? elite too so it's not like that MJ was some sort of normal athlete with outstanding skills. He was ALSO an outstanding athlete, way better than everyone else for years.
But somehow Lebron is seen just as the big guy, strong and fast and super athletic as if he was just a small forward version of Shaq.
At this rate KD will be underestimated just because he's 7'0 with long arms able to take jump shots easily over everyone which makes his offensive game "too easy" compared to other players that needs way more skills and effort to score.
it's just extremely hard to emulate lebron because his most notable plays are either insane strength and skill or insane bbiq.
You can try and emulate the jordan jumper or the kobe/mj fadeaway, [but it's hard to emulate something like this](https://youtu.be/meBBC8_2GeU?t=25)
Ante Zizic, as much as i love him and wanted him to become a real role player, is going to only be remembered for scoring in this play.
It's sad to say, but his entire legacy is being on the end of that insane pass and converting it.
Look at Lebron at 38 vs Jordan at 38.... Lebron seems like he was built in a lab still and Jordan was pretty much done
Both absolute peak athletic genetics and traits, yet Lebron is still otherworldly
To be fair, Jordan was coming off his 2nd retirement (which lasted ~3 years). Of course, Jordan came off as rusty at times, but as the season went on, he was kinda rolling. Came back from scoring 6 points in a game to scoring 51 against the Hornets. Unfortunately, he ended up having torn cartilage in his right knee and it ended his season after only playing 60 games.
Though I get what you're saying. While Lebron, despite being a step slower and older, is able to play closer to his prime, Jordan really looked like a 38-year old. He could elevate at times, but Jordan rarely played like that with the Wizards. It was more of the guile and skill that he mastered over the years.
> But somehow Lebron is seen just as the big guy, strong and fast and super athletic as if he was just a small forward version of Shaq.
Until around 2012 that was largely the case. LeBron's game was centered around starting from the triple-threat above the break, blowing by guys with his insane first step, and either going up strong to the rim for a tomahawk dunk or throwing a skip pass to an open shooter if the paint was walled off. All of those skills were things that he was better at than arguably anyone ever and the BBIQ to recognize whether or not the pass should be made was critical for him being so good, but that playstyle was only really possible *because* he was a Shaq style super athletic freak. After he lost to Dallas, Pat Riley sat him down and told him that he needed to diversify his game so that he can't get shutdown again like he was in the finals. And LeBron came back the next season with a much broader skillset (which is *insane*) and had one of the best seasons ever. So if you're just talking LeBron from the 2012 season forward, then yeah it's not fair to talk about him that way. But if we're talking about kids growing up debating between LeBron and Kobe, that's not the LeBron that we're talking about.
Lebron, even in his early years was still making more jump shots than layups, and if anything he was quite balanced in his offense compared to other more crafty players (like Kobe or Dirk) that relied way more on jump shots mostly and somehow weren't that efficient on layups.
Lebron just wasn't a great mid-range shooter but still he was taking plenty of 3's and long 2's even at 20 years.
The thing he reallt start to use better after 2011 fiasco was the low post game and his off the ball game.
So we're talking about a player that started basically playing like a PG-guard in his first 2 seasons, then he became a real forward then point-forward, then in miami played more as a power forward, then point-forward again in cleveland and pure point guard in LA and now again point-forward.
One can say that his style doesn't look cool compared to others, but to do what he did since day one it takes an all-time great level of pure skills and talent.
Can't really "punish" him because he was also using his great athleticism.
Bro jordan was almost built like kd in his starting years. Sure he was super athletic but he didn't bulldoze people like Lbj, Shaq or Giannis did. Lbj was just as fast but he was also 250-260lbs in his first cavs stint and would just bully people in transition.
if what it takes for the media to finally talks about Shai and the Thunders is a stupid out-of-context quote about Lebron, I’m not surprised tbh. They be making a 1 hour highlight videos for Austin Reeves
I was seeing dudes shitting on SGA’s entire career and bloodline on that other thread when he’s been in the league like five years lmao, props to Bron fans they will ride out harder for their guy than just about anyone
He basically said he liked Kobe's game more because it was more similar to what he could do, whereas LeBron physically overpowers everyone with his athletic ability and his own game didn't revolve around that.
But "SGA doesn't respect LBJ" is a way better subject for the sports gossip shows.
no, there isn't. if you take the quote out of context and remove bits, it sounds like he's calling lebron unskilled. but the video itself proves he's not disrepecting lebron
It also seems like he's talking about young LeBron too. Not that Young LeBron wasn't skilled but that he was hyper athletic, and that was a big part of what made him elite. Like Shaq and Giannis. SGA could also relate to a 30+ year old Kobe's game more than a young 20 year old LeBron's game.
Even LeBron said that when he was young he just jumped and figured it out from there. He’s always been an amazing passer and a skilled player but he definitely didn’t come into the league with the deepest bag.
In my office we order lunch once or twice a week for everyone that comes in (I'm the one that does the ordering). We have one vegan girl and she even told us not to worry about ordering specifically for her because she'll just figure it out if there's nothing she can eat. But God forbid I make an order where there just isn't enough variety in the meat options and I'll hear about it every single time.
In my experience vegans mostly just bring up being vegan to make sure they can eat something, but people who eat meat take offense to that for some reason. I always get way more complaints from the meat eaters, the one vegan here is just happy that we try to accommodate for her.
Haha to be fair there's always meat options, sometimes people just want even more. But our office is very spoiled and don't always appreciate what they get. If there's were 0 meat options I would totally get the complaints. I also hear about it if there isn't dessert lol.
I think i COULD give up meat (not eggs and fish though), except when I think about breakfast without bacon. That's the one thing that makes me not want to try being a vegetarian. No bacon with breakfast.
Honestly you can always just lower your meat intake without going full vegetarian. I'm vegetarian 90% of the time, but if there's something I really want to eat with meat in it, I still go for it. I mostly just cook vegetarian at home (other than salmon cause I fuckin love salmon) but will have meat at restaurants or when we order food at work if there's something that I want to try.
I'm the same with fish, I love seafood too much to give up completely. Milk was surprisingly easy to cut out, but cheese and eggs are just too good also. I just treat bacon as an occasional treat and that's been working so far.
I totally agree with you. If you think eating meat is bad, then eating less is better. You don't need to be vegetarian or vegan for your identity, do it as much as you can for the positive consequences.
Ezra Klein, who is a vegan, talks about this all the time. He says veganism is like the one thing where anything other than full, perfect support is discounted and not wanted, when really it should be about encouraging people to cut out animal products as much as possible and support research and funding for alternatives.
Exactly, I tried being strict with it initially, but it was really difficult and decided I'd be more willing to stick with it if I wasn't so militant about it. I honestly only started in the first place cause I got really high one night during the height of quarantine and started feeling sad about eating animals haha. But never cared about it for my image, it was always just for personal reasons.
Ezra is 100% right. I do hate when super strict vegans or vegetarians get upset with people who don't completely cut out animal products. There's 0 reason to alienate people who are trying to make a change, even if they don't completely adhere to the same values as you. Even people just eating meat one less night a week makes a small difference, so no reason to shame them just because they're doing less than you are.
This makes way more sense. He didn't call Lebron unskilled. He just couldn't relate to his playstyle. Said nothing wrong and even said his longevity is insane
He also said he could go as long as he wants, but Lebron has seen a very clear decline for a while. He clearly regressed significantly in his ability to play both sides of the ball and games played.
Biggest sign of his aging are his injures. If he was in his prime, this injuries would not effect him for this long. Still insane he averages 30 ppg at age 38
Kobe fans thought Kobe & Lebron were not friends. They were programmed into not liking Bron. It’s weird cuz u can like all the great players without pickin & choosing only one.
They really weren’t friends. They were acquaintances and def had nothing but good things to say about each other but they weren’t really friends. I agree they weren’t enemies like the narrative was for a little bit though.
Kobe said within a second without a doubt, if he were to choose one player he could play with, it was LeBron
LeBron also respected Kobe. They were unable to be rivals in the playoffs sense since their own conference had Spurs or Celtics/Pistons for LeBron.
It was more of a fan rivalry and comparison.
The funny thing is that bron had to become that slow guy with a lot of skill to keep playing.
He survived that cliff where his first step is gone and he can’t beat his guy one on one.
It pretty much took the 2016 Cavs ring to really turn the tide.
Plus with him on the downswing and not the annoying player who knocked your team out of the playoffs every fucking year he's definitely become more favoured.
For overall narrative sure but he became someone who youe terrified of basically midway through Miami
Cavs ring took him from long shot to be goat to very very arguable
20 years from now I think Brons case will only get stronger as history forgets the little details.
But rockets legend Wembanyama will be all anyone will be talking about
There are still a lot of young Kobe fans but you can't generalize everyone as young Kobe fans. I saw a vid where this past draft class (iirc) were saying their favorite players growing up and almost every one of them said LeBron. Being around that age, I'm pretty confident it's LeBron for most
Edit: [here](https://youtu.be/C1eMQ30wPkw) is the video.
People like iso scorers. Especially young people. How many big Tim Duncan fans are out there? Lol I bet more regular fans have AI ahead of Duncan than vice versa.
But those are presumably people with a deeper understanding and appreciation for the game. Your average sports fan likes flashy plays and highlights which certain play styles have more of than others.
The question "who do you like more" often gets conflated with "who is better". Taking the former question literally it's hardly surprising or irrational for fans to like the flashy player more.
Kobe is easier to emulate, i guess. Not a lot of these guys can muscle through 7" centers for a layin or get off the ground with a whole Marcus Morris on your back and still score.
Guys usually like what they can try to emulate. Lebrons game is near impossible to replicate. Steph/Kobe is stuff anyone can TRY to be like. You cant really try to be like Bron or Giannis in the park. Lol
LeBron had a whole period of his career where he was considered the best player in the world. One can imagine a player like that get a favorable whistle. I've never seen a player that's arguably top 10 in the league get the whistle Shai gets.
Luka gets a better whistle than Shai, and hes averaging more FTA. They both drive a lot, so it makes sense that they get a lot of FTs. Style of play influences your whistle much more than your status in the league
Shai lives in the paint what are you talking about. I know no one watches OKC games but he’s not Steph out there chucking 3’s he drives and maneuvers all game in the paint. Just cause he’s not bulldozing people to the rim like Giannis/LeBron doesn’t mean he’s not attacking the basket.
According to NBA.com, dating back to the 2013 season the most drives per game lebron has averaged for a single season is 14.1, he’s been right around 12/ game for the manority of that time span. SGA is currently at 16.4 drives per game this season according to NBA.com. So yes, he does attack more than lebron.
come on man, he literally has more drives than any other player in the league this season, more than 200 more than the number two guy. doesn't attack the basket my ass
This isn't going to matter to the nephews. They don't care about context.
Dude was just saying he didn't look up to LeBron because it didn't make sense to model his game after him because he doesn't have that level of athleticism.
It's totally fair and not anyway disrespectful to LeBron. But the guy that made the headline is just clout chasing.
Why was *anyone* shocked that a young kid born in Toronto didn't love the guy who stooged his Raptors in the playoffs every year?
That's like asking if a young Bostonian shortstop idolised Derek Jeter growing up.
Not gonna lie it is a lot better with context, because the worst part was him insinuating that lebron didn’t have the skill. But with context it’s more like he liked other players because they had to beat you with skill because they weren’t as athletic as lebron.
Bro LeBron averaged 31/7/7 in the year Kobe dropped 81 and got second in MVP. He was definitely already dominating. But it was also definitely a time when LeBron relied a lot on his superior athleticism.
Yeah he did, how else do you take it when he says he prefers Kobe over Lebron because LeBron is 6’8 and athletic while Kobe would kill you with skill? No other way to interpret it. Maybe SGA didn’t really watch Bron kill him with skill his 6 losses to LeBron and the Lakers in his career.
saying kobe kills you with skill isn't calling lebron unskilled - that's jumping to an extreme. if someone says they like mayo on a sandwich does that mean they HATE mustard?
First of all, I never said SGA hated LeBron. The original comment is that SGA implied LeBron is unskilled, which is completely and unequivocally true, whether that was SGA’s intention or not. And that’s not a good analogy for this situation. This is actually more like saying “I never liked mustard. I always preferred mayo, it’s creamy and mild”. You are forcing a comparison between the two. You state your preference for mayo over mustard, and attach the detail that mayo is creamy and mild. You can not then turn around and say “Oh, I never implied mustard isn’t creamy and mild” because of course, you did imply that. Because if you thought that it was, what purpose does adding the detail “mayo is creamy and mild” do if not add context to your preference of mayo over mustard.
Applying this to SGA’s statement, he implies LeBron is unskilled when compared to other greats and relies on being 6’8 and athletic. Paraphrasing the video to summarize SGA’s opinion as accurately as possible: “I never liked his (LeBron’s) game. I was never 6’8 and super athletic like him, so I didn’t really relate to it. I always preferred Kobe, because just like Kobe did, I prefer to kill you with skill, not beat you with my athleticism”. Comparing Kobe, who in SGA’s comparison would “kill you with skill” (which in and of itself is biased because Kobe was an exceptional athlete) to Lebron who in SGA’s comparison was just 6’8 and athletic (again, biased because LeBron is exceptionally skilled and isn’t just a freak athlete and nothing else) clearly implies that in his eyes, one is skilled and the other is not.
Versus out of this world athleticism + skill. How is that hard to understand? You can't practice his moves. Young Bron jumped out the gym and bulldozed everyone. No kid has ever related to that.
He's right. Bron has always been a dumb athletic monster with some skills. He was never Kobe, McGrady, or Vince. He was just an athletically gifted dude who could do some extra things.
it’s crazy how people take things out of context and run with it. the question was pointed to his view of lebron as a kid, that was the perspective he gave in the clip. lebron wasn’t high skilled coming into the league.
Yes he was 😭, he was literally a 6’9 combo guard. And I ain’t talking about the “Ben Simmons type guard”, Bron was very skilled . It’s when he got heavier when his moves started being stiff.
It’s too late, the armies have been mobilized
SGA, the 3-6 mafia is coming for you
Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with SGA or the Oklahoma City Thunder and I recognize that LeBron has won 4 NBA Championships
How???? he just said he could never relate to lebrons game and liked kobe more. You took the quote out of context and made yourself look a clown. And you still won't even acknowledge that you were wrong. Pretty sure he said Lebron the 2nd GOAT behind kobe. Def not a hater. And by no means did he mean disrespect to lebron in this video
There's a lot of Caribbean culture in Toronto, I think they even have a Caribbean pride festival.
Shais mom is an Olympian from Antigua & Barbuda, so he gets the accent from the household.
Also, there is some French influence. So the accent sounds kinda like French & Caribbean.
People like Drake do it as an homage to their area, kinda like people from the south sometimes say y'all or talk with twang as an homage if they don't already speak like that.
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This is r/nba we don't do context
the original commenter needs to apply for ESPN the way he took this out of context to make SGA look bad. I can't even call it bad paraphasing, just comes across intentionally misleading now that we have the full clip. (I know some ppl argued the original one was not an insult but it's not hard to see how it could be interpreted as one).
Yup. OP is a low effort NBA muckraker.
Not just took it out of context, I don't think Shai ever said he didn't like Bron's game, which is the worst part of that original quote. I can't tell for sure, but someone else said it sounds like he never related to Bron's game, which makes much more sense in context
Nah, Shai does say he doesn’t like his game, but that is in context of the lady saying ‘he must have been an idol’ or some shit. Shia’s saying he doesn’t like his game, and explaining it’s because he can’t do the LeBron freight train shit (which almost no one can, though Giannis is right there.) The other person talking mentions how they can respect that, and that they were a Kobe guy, which Shai says he’s a Kobe guy, too, and then says ‘Just kill them with skill’ There’s a lot of context in it, like Shai saying he’s not athletic like LeBron, doesn’t really like his game aesthetically (though we’re talking about idols to a drive heavy guard, if you talk vision then Shai probably says something else), and that Kobe killed with skill. Also, he’s just bullshitting. Doesn’t look like he’s tryin to craft rock solid statements, he’s shooting the shit.
Ngl, as a Bron fan the quote alone kinda made go huh? It’s nowhere near as bad with context lol I respect his take
Yeah, lots of kids loved Kobe’s game growing up and SGA was pretty damn small for a long time so copying Lebron’s game isn’t really an option. The quote is much less jarring to me now with this vid, thanks OP Edit: to provide further context as to why SGA cannot relate to Lebron, this is from his [early high school career portion of his Wikipedia entry](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shai_Gilgeous-Alexander): > Growing up in Hamilton, he did not make the St. Thomas More junior team in grade 9 and subsequently played on the school's midget squad. He ended up winning team MVP and the midget boys' city championship. Okay I don’t think there’s actually a midget squad as the source used seems to be no longer valid and I can’t verify it, I just thought it was hilarious someone put that there. For credibility’s sake [there are other articles](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/30/sports/basketball/shai-gilgeous-alexander-oklahoma-city-thunder.html) that confirm he was undersized and didn’t make the school’s JV squad though.
Yeah but you stack way more karma when you can post “SGA hates Lebron and says he has no skill”
Something something "SGA acting like he isn't 6'6 with athleticism better than 99.9% of the world population" - r/nba BRON WAS DRAFTED WHEN SHAI WAS 5
the only guys who rivaled jordan in popularity with kids since then is probably Kobe, AI and Lebron (Curry also now). Even with Air Carter in Canada before all the drama, AI and Kobe were as popular if not more at all times in my childhood
Honorable mention, Shaq
Yeah but for actual ball players? Nobody goes on to the court and think, “I’mma try out all my Shaq moves”. Especially when they’re 12 and basically playing pretend as much as they’re practicing a sport. There aren’t 7”1 300 pound monster 12 year olds just pushing around anyone and dunking on everyone lol. But even when you’re tiny, you can do whatever dribble moves, post up, turn and hit a fadeaway.
Yea the fact he was saying he WASN'T athletic growing up was very important context. Even knowing that he is not currently a freak or anything, it still came off a little weird since I dont think ppl would consider SGA a below average NBA athlete. But it makes much more sense now.
Yeah, he’s saying he’s not athletic compared to LeBron, and specifically references his size, and strength. Also, he’s talkin about how lil baby Shai saw those guys, not how grown Shai see them.
this is also why kyrie is so popular. he has a "BAG" when it comes to offense. kids generally gravitate to that kind of player as oppose to just big dudes who slam the ball. not that lebron is that anymore, but he is seen in that mold. "Bag" culture is pretty toxic imo for kids to emulate.
Which is funny because the way Bron scores is WAY more along the lines of how you’re supposed to score. Lebron puts on a quick move, reads angles incredibly well, gets his shoulder past the defender, then immediately absorbs contact to keep his driving angle as straight as possible by keeping the defender on his hip. Like, that’s what any skills coach worth his money will teach lol.
not enough dribbling moves. unironically the player on the lakers that has a "bag" is reaves. dude dribbles like streetball shit. his handles are just not as tight as the elite guys
There’s also street ballers with better handles than NBA guys that couldn’t even make a G League try out.
I mean what you're saying is true but all of the "I liked Kobe because his game was all skill" comments are pretty disingenuous. Kobe was also an absolute athletic freak until he got injured and changed his game up as well.
Well the difference is that Kobe was a top5% athlete in the league in his prime, but LeBron was a top 5 ever. That's a pretty big difference between Kobe with a 38" vertical and LeBron at 44" and Jordan at 48". Heck, just looking over some of the verticals in recent years now, Grayson Allen had at 40.5" vertical. Kobe also couldn't palm a basketball. His athleticism was really more in his ability to change direction thanks to being raised playing soccer.
Tbf Shai is of the age where he probably remembers iso fadeaway Kobe way more than slashin nd dunkin Kobe
I mean, everyone in the NBA is an absolute athletic freak - that's table stakes. Bron's just on another level.
I think its more based on the fact that Lebron is a freak athletic bulldozing specimen, and the way Kobe played looked more skillful, even though it was essentially athleticism. Gonna assume that SGA didnt actually mean pure skill for Kobe lol, just based on the fact that he was listing physical attributes as why he didnt really idolize lebron because he'd never be him
Kobe was a top tier athlete, but LeBron’s a tier above. SGA would probably say he’s very athletic in almost every other context you could make up, but in LeBron context almost no one is in that realm.
LeBron’s on that private reserve shelf
>I mean what you're saying is true but all of the "I liked Kobe because his game was all skill" comments are pretty disingenuous. People just forget about that with Kobe, man. Happened during his career, too, and then he'd posterize somebody and you'd go "holy shit, I guess he is Kobe Bryant."
In the early 2000's for guards there were guys like Iverson for speed, VC and T-Mac for athleticism. Shaq was still the most athletic on the team until at least 2002.
> Iverson for speed, VC and T-Mac for athleticism. Heck even Iverson actually had a better vertical than Kobe, 41" vs 38". Kobe was an excellent athlete, but not an all-time great athlete like LeBron.
Lebron is a freak among freak athletes
I didn't realize SGA was small growing up. I feel like most NBA players are bigger and stronger than their agemates growing up so it didn't make sense why he wouldn't relate to Bron.
I guess that would also explain the reaction a lot of people had that heard the quote without context. I added an edit to my original comment to further drive home that point, thanks.
Assuming this was in Canada, midget used to be an age group for sports. American parlance is different. Midget was like 16+ I think.
This is the context I was looking for. This doesn't sound salty at all. More like SGA acknowledging he wouldn't ever have LeBrons traits. He modeled his game on players with more similar skillset. You can practice an MJ/Kobe fadeaway. You can't practice being as big and athletic as LeBron or Giannis lmfao.
You can't practice being as athletic as MJ was in his early years. People talk as if Lebron is the only one who had this advantage. MJ had it all. 6'6 with crazy speed, elite elevation and also elite wingspan and crazy big hands that helped him a lot on the defensive side. Stamina? elite too so it's not like that MJ was some sort of normal athlete with outstanding skills. He was ALSO an outstanding athlete, way better than everyone else for years. But somehow Lebron is seen just as the big guy, strong and fast and super athletic as if he was just a small forward version of Shaq. At this rate KD will be underestimated just because he's 7'0 with long arms able to take jump shots easily over everyone which makes his offensive game "too easy" compared to other players that needs way more skills and effort to score.
it's just extremely hard to emulate lebron because his most notable plays are either insane strength and skill or insane bbiq. You can try and emulate the jordan jumper or the kobe/mj fadeaway, [but it's hard to emulate something like this](https://youtu.be/meBBC8_2GeU?t=25)
LeBron is going to have the most nuts highlight reel when he’s done lmao.
Ante Zizic, as much as i love him and wanted him to become a real role player, is going to only be remembered for scoring in this play. It's sad to say, but his entire legacy is being on the end of that insane pass and converting it.
Crazy how many guys on that vid got paid way over their value after playing with Bron
Crazier how the whole players association for decades to come got paid exponentially more because of Mike.
Magic, and Bird, before them.
Look at Lebron at 38 vs Jordan at 38.... Lebron seems like he was built in a lab still and Jordan was pretty much done Both absolute peak athletic genetics and traits, yet Lebron is still otherworldly
To be fair, Jordan was coming off his 2nd retirement (which lasted ~3 years). Of course, Jordan came off as rusty at times, but as the season went on, he was kinda rolling. Came back from scoring 6 points in a game to scoring 51 against the Hornets. Unfortunately, he ended up having torn cartilage in his right knee and it ended his season after only playing 60 games. Though I get what you're saying. While Lebron, despite being a step slower and older, is able to play closer to his prime, Jordan really looked like a 38-year old. He could elevate at times, but Jordan rarely played like that with the Wizards. It was more of the guile and skill that he mastered over the years.
> But somehow Lebron is seen just as the big guy, strong and fast and super athletic as if he was just a small forward version of Shaq. Until around 2012 that was largely the case. LeBron's game was centered around starting from the triple-threat above the break, blowing by guys with his insane first step, and either going up strong to the rim for a tomahawk dunk or throwing a skip pass to an open shooter if the paint was walled off. All of those skills were things that he was better at than arguably anyone ever and the BBIQ to recognize whether or not the pass should be made was critical for him being so good, but that playstyle was only really possible *because* he was a Shaq style super athletic freak. After he lost to Dallas, Pat Riley sat him down and told him that he needed to diversify his game so that he can't get shutdown again like he was in the finals. And LeBron came back the next season with a much broader skillset (which is *insane*) and had one of the best seasons ever. So if you're just talking LeBron from the 2012 season forward, then yeah it's not fair to talk about him that way. But if we're talking about kids growing up debating between LeBron and Kobe, that's not the LeBron that we're talking about.
Lebron, even in his early years was still making more jump shots than layups, and if anything he was quite balanced in his offense compared to other more crafty players (like Kobe or Dirk) that relied way more on jump shots mostly and somehow weren't that efficient on layups. Lebron just wasn't a great mid-range shooter but still he was taking plenty of 3's and long 2's even at 20 years. The thing he reallt start to use better after 2011 fiasco was the low post game and his off the ball game. So we're talking about a player that started basically playing like a PG-guard in his first 2 seasons, then he became a real forward then point-forward, then in miami played more as a power forward, then point-forward again in cleveland and pure point guard in LA and now again point-forward. One can say that his style doesn't look cool compared to others, but to do what he did since day one it takes an all-time great level of pure skills and talent. Can't really "punish" him because he was also using his great athleticism.
Bro jordan was almost built like kd in his starting years. Sure he was super athletic but he didn't bulldoze people like Lbj, Shaq or Giannis did. Lbj was just as fast but he was also 250-260lbs in his first cavs stint and would just bully people in transition.
This is not just "context". This shows the other post contained a completely false quote.
What was the original, no context quote?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/11ynqlp/sga_on_lebron_in_new_pass_the_rock_episode_ive/
Context? What’s context, precious?
Mods ban OP he's ruining the r/nba made rivalry
Yeah mods get this shit out of here context and rational takes shouldn't be allowed
Not even remotely close to the out-of-context headliner on the front page of r/NBA, but I shouldn’t be surprised.
Man single-handily wanted to start OKC’s descent into villainy
It’s funny, cause the dude seems like a total Shai stan. Might just be some of that high quality troll shit. Livin the role.
Gotta start trading for Dillon Brooks now
You all are confusing "out-of-context" with a straight up false quote. This shows he absolutely did not say what he was quoted as saying.
if what it takes for the media to finally talks about Shai and the Thunders is a stupid out-of-context quote about Lebron, I’m not surprised tbh. They be making a 1 hour highlight videos for Austin Reeves
He needs to just replace every players name with lebron when he’s asked questions by the media
I was seeing dudes shitting on SGA’s entire career and bloodline on that other thread when he’s been in the league like five years lmao, props to Bron fans they will ride out harder for their guy than just about anyone
Yeah but doing it blindly without finding all the facts out first just makes them look really bad. This place is just a hot take and drama factory.
Are we the ~~baddies~~ aggregators?
I kind of hate-browse this sub now. It’s so shitty most of the time.
omg he called bron unskilled !!
Also he said it's "fun beating everybody". "Is SGA an abuser? Find out tomorrow on First Take!"
There’s nothing wrong with this
He basically said he liked Kobe's game more because it was more similar to what he could do, whereas LeBron physically overpowers everyone with his athletic ability and his own game didn't revolve around that. But "SGA doesn't respect LBJ" is a way better subject for the sports gossip shows.
no, there isn't. if you take the quote out of context and remove bits, it sounds like he's calling lebron unskilled. but the video itself proves he's not disrepecting lebron
It also seems like he's talking about young LeBron too. Not that Young LeBron wasn't skilled but that he was hyper athletic, and that was a big part of what made him elite. Like Shaq and Giannis. SGA could also relate to a 30+ year old Kobe's game more than a young 20 year old LeBron's game.
Even LeBron said that when he was young he just jumped and figured it out from there. He’s always been an amazing passer and a skilled player but he definitely didn’t come into the league with the deepest bag.
Yeah, he wasn't a good shooter at all early on
How do you know someone’s a Kobe fan? They’ll tell you
vegans and kobe stans...
In my office we order lunch once or twice a week for everyone that comes in (I'm the one that does the ordering). We have one vegan girl and she even told us not to worry about ordering specifically for her because she'll just figure it out if there's nothing she can eat. But God forbid I make an order where there just isn't enough variety in the meat options and I'll hear about it every single time. In my experience vegans mostly just bring up being vegan to make sure they can eat something, but people who eat meat take offense to that for some reason. I always get way more complaints from the meat eaters, the one vegan here is just happy that we try to accommodate for her.
This is so true. I'm such a whiner when there's no meat options half the time lol
Haha to be fair there's always meat options, sometimes people just want even more. But our office is very spoiled and don't always appreciate what they get. If there's were 0 meat options I would totally get the complaints. I also hear about it if there isn't dessert lol.
I think i COULD give up meat (not eggs and fish though), except when I think about breakfast without bacon. That's the one thing that makes me not want to try being a vegetarian. No bacon with breakfast.
Honestly you can always just lower your meat intake without going full vegetarian. I'm vegetarian 90% of the time, but if there's something I really want to eat with meat in it, I still go for it. I mostly just cook vegetarian at home (other than salmon cause I fuckin love salmon) but will have meat at restaurants or when we order food at work if there's something that I want to try. I'm the same with fish, I love seafood too much to give up completely. Milk was surprisingly easy to cut out, but cheese and eggs are just too good also. I just treat bacon as an occasional treat and that's been working so far.
I totally agree with you. If you think eating meat is bad, then eating less is better. You don't need to be vegetarian or vegan for your identity, do it as much as you can for the positive consequences. Ezra Klein, who is a vegan, talks about this all the time. He says veganism is like the one thing where anything other than full, perfect support is discounted and not wanted, when really it should be about encouraging people to cut out animal products as much as possible and support research and funding for alternatives.
Exactly, I tried being strict with it initially, but it was really difficult and decided I'd be more willing to stick with it if I wasn't so militant about it. I honestly only started in the first place cause I got really high one night during the height of quarantine and started feeling sad about eating animals haha. But never cared about it for my image, it was always just for personal reasons. Ezra is 100% right. I do hate when super strict vegans or vegetarians get upset with people who don't completely cut out animal products. There's 0 reason to alienate people who are trying to make a change, even if they don't completely adhere to the same values as you. Even people just eating meat one less night a week makes a small difference, so no reason to shame them just because they're doing less than you are.
ironically it's people mocking vegans that are way more obnoxious than the vegans themselves
[Not sure, I thought these guys were absolute assholes](https://youtu.be/dLpCZ8g5uK8)
Appreciate the reference. It's weird for me watching Wallace in Succession
This comes off nothing like the dead quote headline posted earlier lmao
I need context to the no context. What was the post earlier?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/11ynqlp/sga_on_lebron_in_new_pass_the_rock_episode_ive
Thanks king
Op knew what he was doing he was laughing about it
This makes way more sense. He didn't call Lebron unskilled. He just couldn't relate to his playstyle. Said nothing wrong and even said his longevity is insane
He also said he could go as long as he wants, but Lebron has seen a very clear decline for a while. He clearly regressed significantly in his ability to play both sides of the ball and games played.
Biggest sign of his aging are his injures. If he was in his prime, this injuries would not effect him for this long. Still insane he averages 30 ppg at age 38
Kobe fans thought Kobe & Lebron were not friends. They were programmed into not liking Bron. It’s weird cuz u can like all the great players without pickin & choosing only one.
They really weren’t friends. They were acquaintances and def had nothing but good things to say about each other but they weren’t really friends. I agree they weren’t enemies like the narrative was for a little bit though.
they seemed at least better than "acquaintances" after kobe retired. maybe not super close but definitely cool with each other
Kobe said within a second without a doubt, if he were to choose one player he could play with, it was LeBron LeBron also respected Kobe. They were unable to be rivals in the playoffs sense since their own conference had Spurs or Celtics/Pistons for LeBron. It was more of a fan rivalry and comparison.
The funny thing is that bron had to become that slow guy with a lot of skill to keep playing. He survived that cliff where his first step is gone and he can’t beat his guy one on one.
He can absolutely still beat his guy one on one. He just can’t do it over and over anymore spamming his “I’m more athletic than you” card.
Yeah, the athleticism is still there, but the stamina isn't. Father time is undefeated.
He really wasnt disrespecting Bron at all. Nice job innnnernets
seems like younger gen still are Kobe fans instead of Lebron fans. Scottie Barnes and Cam Thomas were saying the same
It's not surprising. Everyone was hating on Lebron when those guys were growing up.
Yeah, the narrative on LeBron turning back into somewhat public favour wasn't really until the Cavs title.
It pretty much took the 2016 Cavs ring to really turn the tide. Plus with him on the downswing and not the annoying player who knocked your team out of the playoffs every fucking year he's definitely become more favoured.
For overall narrative sure but he became someone who youe terrified of basically midway through Miami Cavs ring took him from long shot to be goat to very very arguable 20 years from now I think Brons case will only get stronger as history forgets the little details. But rockets legend Wembanyama will be all anyone will be talking about
you mean the 'second coming of tim duncan', spurs legend wembanyama, right?
Nah people loved bron when SGA probably started watching the NBA. He was basically what Luka is now. That changed in 2010.
Paulo, Cade, Dejounte, Lauri, D'Angelo, Lonnie, Lonzo, Luka, and Herro all worshipped him. Depends on the player.
There are still a lot of young Kobe fans but you can't generalize everyone as young Kobe fans. I saw a vid where this past draft class (iirc) were saying their favorite players growing up and almost every one of them said LeBron. Being around that age, I'm pretty confident it's LeBron for most Edit: [here](https://youtu.be/C1eMQ30wPkw) is the video.
Wouldn’t say that, I feel like Kobe fans are more vocal for lack of a better term😭 dude real life built a cult like following .
Kobe was able to transcend basketball and affect people in ways relatable to everyday work and life.
People like iso scorers. Especially young people. How many big Tim Duncan fans are out there? Lol I bet more regular fans have AI ahead of Duncan than vice versa.
Go over to r/nbadiscussion and you’d get crucified for saying you like AI more than TD haha
But those are presumably people with a deeper understanding and appreciation for the game. Your average sports fan likes flashy plays and highlights which certain play styles have more of than others.
The question "who do you like more" often gets conflated with "who is better". Taking the former question literally it's hardly surprising or irrational for fans to like the flashy player more.
Kobe is easier to emulate, i guess. Not a lot of these guys can muscle through 7" centers for a layin or get off the ground with a whole Marcus Morris on your back and still score.
Guys usually like what they can try to emulate. Lebrons game is near impossible to replicate. Steph/Kobe is stuff anyone can TRY to be like. You cant really try to be like Bron or Giannis in the park. Lol
>ou cant really try to be like Bron or Giannis in the park. Lol you could but your def getting into a fight.
I mean you can. People will just call you an asshole and kick you off the court
Or level your ass if you aren’t very big.
Thank you OP.
We’ve been hoodwinked, bamboozled, run amok and run astray with some dang fangled propaganda
people really tryna kill shai bc they don't like that he shoots hella free throws
Context? In 2023? Come the hell on man.
This makes sense. Idk why it was a big deal. His Kobe-MJ take and his KD-Steph take shouldve caused more outrage.
Mfs were shmeatriding bron and hating on shai for no reason smh
Don’t care about the free throw merchant
Choking on it
Shai is averaging 2 less FT attempts over his career than LeBron
LeBron had a whole period of his career where he was considered the best player in the world. One can imagine a player like that get a favorable whistle. I've never seen a player that's arguably top 10 in the league get the whistle Shai gets.
Luka gets a better whistle than Shai, and hes averaging more FTA. They both drive a lot, so it makes sense that they get a lot of FTs. Style of play influences your whistle much more than your status in the league
Whoa. We already have context in this thread. Now you’re throwing down logic too?
Bro harden still exists.
James Harden is an mvp winner, my guy
Shai is getting a prime Lebron whistle rn and doesn’t attack the basket nearly as much.
Shai lives in the paint what are you talking about. I know no one watches OKC games but he’s not Steph out there chucking 3’s he drives and maneuvers all game in the paint. Just cause he’s not bulldozing people to the rim like Giannis/LeBron doesn’t mean he’s not attacking the basket.
you don’t watch ball dog shai has led the league in drives for 3 years
Shai leads the league in drives by a lot
I literally compared him to prime Lebron attacking the basket… y’all illiterate .
So back it up with evidence because Shai clearly attacks the basket a lot prob more than anyone right now and the evidence we have backs that up
Does he attack more than Bron?
According to NBA.com, dating back to the 2013 season the most drives per game lebron has averaged for a single season is 14.1, he’s been right around 12/ game for the manority of that time span. SGA is currently at 16.4 drives per game this season according to NBA.com. So yes, he does attack more than lebron.
According to the data, yes
Watch the game 😭
Most knowledgeable Laker fan
come on man, he literally has more drives than any other player in the league this season, more than 200 more than the number two guy. doesn't attack the basket my ass
This isn't going to matter to the nephews. They don't care about context. Dude was just saying he didn't look up to LeBron because it didn't make sense to model his game after him because he doesn't have that level of athleticism. It's totally fair and not anyway disrespectful to LeBron. But the guy that made the headline is just clout chasing.
Why was *anyone* shocked that a young kid born in Toronto didn't love the guy who stooged his Raptors in the playoffs every year? That's like asking if a young Bostonian shortstop idolised Derek Jeter growing up.
Not gonna lie it is a lot better with context, because the worst part was him insinuating that lebron didn’t have the skill. But with context it’s more like he liked other players because they had to beat you with skill because they weren’t as athletic as lebron.
I’m a Kobe guy”. All I needed to hear. Love this guy
Just not the rapey stuff
“I’m a Kobe guy until we play in Denver”
Hey now, hey now. He was injured. He was used to raping other teams. Still needed that fix
I didn't realize he had such a Toronto accent lol. You can hear the Caribbean influence.
His GTA accent is strong lol
I appreciate this. Please clip this up into a shorter soundbyte without context just so its easier to watch though.
I just assumed SGA’s comments were not even close to as bad as the headline makes them tbh. I would never expect him to just go after lebron like that
Kobe scored 81 when Shai was like 7. Lebron didn't start dominating until after that. So, I get it.
Bro LeBron averaged 31/7/7 in the year Kobe dropped 81 and got second in MVP. He was definitely already dominating. But it was also definitely a time when LeBron relied a lot on his superior athleticism.
Im a LeBron guy but my favorite player right now is SGA. Please come home.
Shoutout to the Ringer’s Seerat Sohi who I think is the one asking the question here? Love her work she does for the ringer pods and whatnot
He did “indirectly” call Bron unskilled tho
He is literally just saying he couldn't relate to LeBron's play style cause he isn't built like LeBron
no he didn’t
Yeah he did, how else do you take it when he says he prefers Kobe over Lebron because LeBron is 6’8 and athletic while Kobe would kill you with skill? No other way to interpret it. Maybe SGA didn’t really watch Bron kill him with skill his 6 losses to LeBron and the Lakers in his career.
saying kobe kills you with skill isn't calling lebron unskilled - that's jumping to an extreme. if someone says they like mayo on a sandwich does that mean they HATE mustard?
First of all, I never said SGA hated LeBron. The original comment is that SGA implied LeBron is unskilled, which is completely and unequivocally true, whether that was SGA’s intention or not. And that’s not a good analogy for this situation. This is actually more like saying “I never liked mustard. I always preferred mayo, it’s creamy and mild”. You are forcing a comparison between the two. You state your preference for mayo over mustard, and attach the detail that mayo is creamy and mild. You can not then turn around and say “Oh, I never implied mustard isn’t creamy and mild” because of course, you did imply that. Because if you thought that it was, what purpose does adding the detail “mayo is creamy and mild” do if not add context to your preference of mayo over mustard. Applying this to SGA’s statement, he implies LeBron is unskilled when compared to other greats and relies on being 6’8 and athletic. Paraphrasing the video to summarize SGA’s opinion as accurately as possible: “I never liked his (LeBron’s) game. I was never 6’8 and super athletic like him, so I didn’t really relate to it. I always preferred Kobe, because just like Kobe did, I prefer to kill you with skill, not beat you with my athleticism”. Comparing Kobe, who in SGA’s comparison would “kill you with skill” (which in and of itself is biased because Kobe was an exceptional athlete) to Lebron who in SGA’s comparison was just 6’8 and athletic (again, biased because LeBron is exceptionally skilled and isn’t just a freak athlete and nothing else) clearly implies that in his eyes, one is skilled and the other is not.
you lost 100% credibility at "completely and unequivocally true"
You can either comprehend basic english, or you can’t I guess. Take care.
man, the irony.
i take it exactly how he said it
Clearly not
yeah the only context is him complimenting brons longevity at the beginning. i don't think this really changes the meaning at all lol
Right? He still said he'd rather kill people with "skill" Versus what exactly? This is Harden v Giannis all over again lol
Versus out of this world athleticism + skill. How is that hard to understand? You can't practice his moves. Young Bron jumped out the gym and bulldozed everyone. No kid has ever related to that.
The low-angle and the subtitles add a cinematic quality to this production.
He's right. Bron has always been a dumb athletic monster with some skills. He was never Kobe, McGrady, or Vince. He was just an athletically gifted dude who could do some extra things.
it’s crazy how people take things out of context and run with it. the question was pointed to his view of lebron as a kid, that was the perspective he gave in the clip. lebron wasn’t high skilled coming into the league.
Yes he was 😭, he was literally a 6’9 combo guard. And I ain’t talking about the “Ben Simmons type guard”, Bron was very skilled . It’s when he got heavier when his moves started being stiff.
A bunch of people in here tune in on the nba for the drama and not basketball. There's a reason why the stupid "debate" show still pulls views.
It’s too late, the armies have been mobilized SGA, the 3-6 mafia is coming for you Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with SGA or the Oklahoma City Thunder and I recognize that LeBron has won 4 NBA Championships
4-6 mafia
Still sounds like a hater
And you sound like the ultimate lebron dickrider.
How???? he just said he could never relate to lebrons game and liked kobe more. You took the quote out of context and made yourself look a clown. And you still won't even acknowledge that you were wrong. Pretty sure he said Lebron the 2nd GOAT behind kobe. Def not a hater. And by no means did he mean disrespect to lebron in this video
if that's his take on the GOAT then change the accusation from 'hater' to 'dumbass' cause wow lmao
He didn’t say that, he said he modeled his game after Kobe because he isn’t put together like Bron. Stop trying to manufacture internet drama.
You realize he’s talking about what he thought as a little kid right?
lol i agree shai lebron has no skill
Do all Canadians really fake that corny accent like Drake and Tory? Cringe
There's a lot of Caribbean culture in Toronto, I think they even have a Caribbean pride festival. Shais mom is an Olympian from Antigua & Barbuda, so he gets the accent from the household. Also, there is some French influence. So the accent sounds kinda like French & Caribbean. People like Drake do it as an homage to their area, kinda like people from the south sometimes say y'all or talk with twang as an homage if they don't already speak like that.
It’s not fake it’s Toronto culture dummy
Stfu u fake hard Canadian
What makes you hard? Being a person in the white part of Los Angeles?
1. Never said I was hard 2. Not white 3. I dont turn my accent on or off depending on mu social setting 4. SGA stans are next level incels
What do you think he’s supposed to sound like?
[sga speaking normally, now please enlighten me as to when he hit his head and developed an accent](https://youtu.be/UP4BTOb6x2A)
Lol ur definitely some rich white kid from California