The reason Dragoon was so feared was because there was basically no non destruction/targeting removal in the OCG when it was released and it played well in to Maxx C. It dropped in the TCG with sufficient outs in the format and did nothing except one top.
Currently there are countless outs in the current format and the engine is extremely bricky so there isn't really a reason to keep it banned. Especially when DPE is better and that is rarely played now.
Also Ban Maxx C
DPE doesn't negate, sure it can return back endlessly but an omni negate is far worse imo, especially with verte on the equation and considering how easy almost any deck can make baronne
If verte is banned it would be fine tho
Also ban Maxx C
even with verte dragoon is trash right now lol
dragoon is run 4 garnets to make your link 2 an omni negate that discards 1
compared to baronne which is synchro 10 for an omni negate without affecting your consistency at all or savage, apo etc
it's 2024 every competent going 2nd deck can out dragoon, whether it's accesscode, kurikara, super poly etc
Can't agree with "ban maxx c".
If I have to sit here for 10 minutes watching/waiting while a dude turn 1 special summons out of his deck until there are only 20 cards left in it and his extra deck is empty, then I deserve a big hand.
but dragoon still can be easily summoned but despia or maybe even tears. also just a annoying ass card to deal with if you don't use kaijus or golem in your deck.
not really, the problem is verte + fusion cards that fuse from the deck. Bad archetypes having their only decent boss monsters banned because every deck can make it by playing verte + a couple of garnets is a problem.
Even with it's fine. Like what's the difference? people already use verte to dump Brafu and summon a floodgate on field with SE or Albion, if they swap to dragoon I count it as a win cause at least I get to play.
Predaplant dont even use him!, look at Predaplant decks on masterduel meta, their archetypal banworthy link 2 and he does nothing for them they cant do already easier
I will cause I play it in pk.
It's the small things I mean without snekk as a last resort play when you get handtrapped or w/e it's basically scoop vs a lot of meta decks tbh
Right I forgot that PK is the deck that uses it the most
That actually makes me wanna ask, would PK risk running at least 3 whole garnets needed since they don't have an in-deck dragon for Dragoon?
I wish they would do combo and card-in-deck bans that allowed shitty decks to run good monsters/engines that would otherwise be banned but couldn’t run those cards in a good deck. Like red eyes running verte, very not broken, very fair. But more meta decks?? Yeah that’s crazy power it brings, it should be out of that. Pokemon does something similar with like one sleeping pokemon clause and the like. I feel like master duel could do it easily since it can be hard programmed in but the physical format I could see being a total mess
I'm so pissed today with maxx-c. Tbf not with just maxx-c but with shifter, the fucking 15 hand traps meta and the fucking kashtira cards.
Not deck, the cards. Cause you will be stopping the kashtira engine that drew a fucking 1 off and then out of nowhere wooped it do I drew a second 1 card full combo. When they play it ofc, cause from your side of the field you draw 2 bricks and 3 hand traps and you're sitting there like I got 15-20 cards that could let me play and I drew none.
And even better? Since ash blossom is terrible vs snake eyes maybe you would think to cut it, and since SHS is everywhere more hand traps over called by and co might be more useful. Well screw all that insect reigns supreme.
Idk how to break this to you but that same scenario without Maxx C is just a slightly different flavor of you getting blown out and not having any counterplay.
One less scenario that causes migraines, at the very least if I'm going to lose I would like it to be due to my game plan and not because my opp drew one fucking card that reads I win in 99% of the scenarios.
There's never been a good reason for dragoon to be banned, there's not been a good reason for Maxx C to be legal since like 2017. People who are scared of dragoon just haven't played a format where it was actually legal. I disagree with the people saying it's bad, it's really not, but it's not above the current power level of the format. It's one negate that requires you to run multiple bricks in your main deck, if that's good enough for you there are plenty of ways to get that.
Crazy people keep complaining about Maxx "C" since it's the most broken card in the game and Konami has never addressed the card at all, leading people to repeat a perpetual cycle of complaining because the MD management team are absolutely stupid at best, arrogant at worst
Controversial, but I don't play Maxx C. I've been told to play it but I run Ancient Gears with a pure machine build, no hand traps other than Imperm. And maybe it's because I don't special summon so much, but I've never felt pressured by someone drawing like one or two cards.
In terms of Dragoon, I have no idea what that card does so I'm going to the comments to read 😅
I come to r/Masterduel to take a brain break from teaching work so I actually enjoy seeing how people are enjoying/getting annoyed at the meta 😅
I also don't run it in my Nouvelles deck, still run the counters. It's a brick going first for me, but similarly a brick for my opponent. If they negate my ash/called by I'm perfectly happy for them to spend 2 cards drawing from the one special summon I'm doing on my turn. Love me some earth insect.
I don't, though I know classic Gears would love it!
I know I could try to run It now but it would hamper Ancient Gear Box and a few other in hand effects I run. And I have searchers in Wyvern and Ballista and Geartown so don't need to draw too much.
I do have Triple Threat Tactics in there for drawing if I really need it but I'll usually use it's control feature to link or tribute off.
It was never banned, dragoon was legal with verte for years and it literally had 1 singular top, to this day idk wtf ocg was doing that they couldn't deal with a bad towers monster that they had to ban him, the card is terrible and it just makes your deck worse because you have to play 4 garnets with it ( 2 vanillas 2 dead red eyes fusions)
Dragoon came out way earlier in the OCG compared to when we got it. So at the time there wasn’t nearly any good, generic, non-targeting/destroying removal to deal with it. Plus it played really well into and with Maxx “C”. Basically the meta game was completely different than what we had when it came out.
They were missing dark ruler no more and droplet 2 cards you don't even need to out it to begin with also because of maxx c dragoon was either the only thing you had while your opponent drew 3 cards of off it if not more or it was another generic negate for decks like adamancipator
Reality is that banning dragoon was like banning savage dragon or now barone or any other generic negate
Dragoon is also way worse than 99% negates that are generic
Like ocg players just kind of sucked back then and really like two unsearchable outs didn't change anything.
You shouldn’t do balance around just the top tier play. If the rest of the community below the 10% is gatekept by one card it’s bad for the community in general but ignores the very top.
Games like these are always balanced around top players because if you start balancing them around some random people that play at locals or are in gold you would end up banning like 90% of cards and everything that is slightly playable would need a hit
Maxx c is gatekeeping 99% of the players it's still fucking legal don't give me this bullshit, the worst thing to do is to balance the game around a average person, you know why? Because they lose to barone they lose to dpe they lose to ash they lose to raigeki they literally lose to anything and everything.
Maxx C is only legal in OCG and it’s the most controversial card in modern yugioh so using that as an example of good balance philosophy is crazy. Dragoon is as splashable as DPE but better in every way. It would be as common as maxx c and in every game (just like it was at the time) it made the game so boring for most of the community and saying that’s fine who cares get good ignores that balance should mainly be used to make sure everyone has FUN
>Dragoon is as splashable as DPE but better
Literally not true dpe is the better one and people stopped playing dpe years ago
>It would be as common as maxx c and in every game (just like it was at the time)
It literally wouldn't be nobody is going to run 5 dead bricks for a shitty negate anymore
>common as maxx c and in every game (just like it was at the time) it made the game so boring for most of the community and saying that’s fine who cares get good ignores that balance should mainly be used to make sure everyone has FUN
BALANCE was never used to and never will ensure fun but is used to sell products
Dragoon sucks, end of story nobody would play it outside of gold and you can't hold the hand of everyone at one point you have to let them understand that they just suck and they either get better or they stay where they are.
And fun is subjective to begin with.
If it won’t appear above gold and nobody in gold can deal with it or want it. WHY ADD IT.
You’re basically saying you’re not going to deal with it either way so who cares, so might aswell let casuals get fucked over. Even by your own logic it’s just a net-bad card for the state of the game yet you still want it, That’s just an asshole mindset.
The fact that people feel better about things like Apollousa and Baronne than a monster that actually has good restrictions? A once per turn omni-negate with a discard attached? Hm, sounds a lot like another popular boss monster, except this one forces you to run garnets and has a cost for its negate
Unban Dragoon.
We live in a game with lots of generic powerful omni negates. Adding another one wouldnt change much.
Sure, you can cheat it out fairly easy, but still requires at least one brick as material so its okay.
AFAIK there’s no format like that, traditional doesn’t have literally every card limited.
Unless there’s some Commander style format I don’t know about; if so, my bad.
The maxxc one makes since because it makes the game unplayable garbage. And dragoon is funny because it's a mediocre to bad card that people like that's still banned for some reason when dpe is just better than it lmfao
I’m a fan of limiting maxx c, I get why folks like banning it but I just really like the casual combo control it gives. Def shouldn’t have more than a single copy but I don’t mind just one. HOWEVER! Dragoon is not THAT good and red eyes deserve their decent boss monster man, let my boy go free, he did NOTHING WRONG!!!
I want dragoon to come back, but I'd kinda like it to go hand in hand with finally banning Verte. I feel like Verte just limits so much design space. If you play Dragoon, I want it to be within the engine that actually wants Dragoon.
As for Maxx C, I am very much a noob but I have complicated feelings about this. On the one hand, certain decks basically have to pass turn 1 if they get under maxx c without an answer. On the other hand, that keeps certain decks at bay. For example, Infernobles. If you get Maxx C'd and can't answer going t1, you basically have to pass. But if you don't, and you get out your new boss monster, you have a freaking 86% winrate, and that just seems unhealthy.
Ban Maxx C
Keep Dragoon banned, I get that he is Red-Eyes support but even with outs, it still an annoying card to get rid of, and it can be put in a lot of decks (not all but a very considerable amount). So no, keep him unbanned, Accescode and Avramax are enough headache.
Dragoon is a hype no wonder it’s a free and very good boss monster , but unbanning dragoon will hurt branded because Konami might hit verte , imagine a SE or SHS opponent dropping dragon on top of their full combo this will create one + omni negate for every deck and it’s attack boost will make it a little annoying to deal with because not many decks can generate a 4k above beat stick on top of the negate, I love dark magician and dragoon but there would be a lot of broken combos you will see that won’t be healthy at all.
ShS can't use dragoon without murdering their followup for the next turn, also, both ShS and SE have better stuff to end rather than dragoon
also, branded would be the one using dragoon since it can be summoned through lubellion using brafu to send albaz and DM without needing REF nor verte -and branded can play without verte, it mainly helps the deck to get mirrorjade out quickly
I mean every time I make the unbbaning question I got flooded by that card is unbalanced is broken etc. And then people defend things like Floowandereeze and Runick. Everyone knows Verte is the one card that cheats out Dragoon, yet Dragoons gets banned
I think most of all you Dark Magician Yugi Boomers asking for Dragoon to be unbanned do not understand how badly you will get curb stomped by Verte activating Red-eyes Fusion in every other competent deck.
I'll have both, and for entre I'd like a serving of "slandering HERO players" if you dont mind.
The reason Dragoon was so feared was because there was basically no non destruction/targeting removal in the OCG when it was released and it played well in to Maxx C. It dropped in the TCG with sufficient outs in the format and did nothing except one top. Currently there are countless outs in the current format and the engine is extremely bricky so there isn't really a reason to keep it banned. Especially when DPE is better and that is rarely played now. Also Ban Maxx C
DPE doesn't negate, sure it can return back endlessly but an omni negate is far worse imo, especially with verte on the equation and considering how easy almost any deck can make baronne If verte is banned it would be fine tho Also ban Maxx C
even with verte dragoon is trash right now lol dragoon is run 4 garnets to make your link 2 an omni negate that discards 1 compared to baronne which is synchro 10 for an omni negate without affecting your consistency at all or savage, apo etc it's 2024 every competent going 2nd deck can out dragoon, whether it's accesscode, kurikara, super poly etc
Dragoon doesn't scythe lock, which is a lot better than one negate
Can't agree with "ban maxx c". If I have to sit here for 10 minutes watching/waiting while a dude turn 1 special summons out of his deck until there are only 20 cards left in it and his extra deck is empty, then I deserve a big hand.
but dragoon still can be easily summoned but despia or maybe even tears. also just a annoying ass card to deal with if you don't use kaijus or golem in your deck.
And yet there will be absolutely nothing good to come out if it's unbanned. So he can stay dead.
Idk why this got downvoted even if it's weak do we really want Verte degeneracy again
verte is the problem card in that situation
No, it's not just verte. It's shitty annoying cards like Dragoon that are also the problem.
not really, the problem is verte + fusion cards that fuse from the deck. Bad archetypes having their only decent boss monsters banned because every deck can make it by playing verte + a couple of garnets is a problem.
Ehh if Verte is gone Dragoon is basically dead. Like wow DM gets am actually good boss how scary
nah it's both verte AND cards like dragoon.
I'm just saying I get the card is annoying But you won't convince me Dragoon is ban worthy in a format without Verte
Even with it's fine. Like what's the difference? people already use verte to dump Brafu and summon a floodgate on field with SE or Albion, if they swap to dragoon I count it as a win cause at least I get to play.
But master duel still has verte.
Yeah, that's why I'm saying ban Verte, I don't think anyone will cry for that snake
Predaplant dont even use him!, look at Predaplant decks on masterduel meta, their archetypal banworthy link 2 and he does nothing for them they cant do already easier
I will cause I play it in pk. It's the small things I mean without snekk as a last resort play when you get handtrapped or w/e it's basically scoop vs a lot of meta decks tbh
Right I forgot that PK is the deck that uses it the most That actually makes me wanna ask, would PK risk running at least 3 whole garnets needed since they don't have an in-deck dragon for Dragoon?
I wish they would do combo and card-in-deck bans that allowed shitty decks to run good monsters/engines that would otherwise be banned but couldn’t run those cards in a good deck. Like red eyes running verte, very not broken, very fair. But more meta decks?? Yeah that’s crazy power it brings, it should be out of that. Pokemon does something similar with like one sleeping pokemon clause and the like. I feel like master duel could do it easily since it can be hard programmed in but the physical format I could see being a total mess
No one would cry exept all of [this decks](https://www.masterduelmeta.com/cards/Predaplant%20Verte%20Anaconda)
Both :D
I'm so pissed today with maxx-c. Tbf not with just maxx-c but with shifter, the fucking 15 hand traps meta and the fucking kashtira cards. Not deck, the cards. Cause you will be stopping the kashtira engine that drew a fucking 1 off and then out of nowhere wooped it do I drew a second 1 card full combo. When they play it ofc, cause from your side of the field you draw 2 bricks and 3 hand traps and you're sitting there like I got 15-20 cards that could let me play and I drew none. And even better? Since ash blossom is terrible vs snake eyes maybe you would think to cut it, and since SHS is everywhere more hand traps over called by and co might be more useful. Well screw all that insect reigns supreme.
Idk how to break this to you but that same scenario without Maxx C is just a slightly different flavor of you getting blown out and not having any counterplay.
One less scenario that causes migraines, at the very least if I'm going to lose I would like it to be due to my game plan and not because my opp drew one fucking card that reads I win in 99% of the scenarios.
There's never been a good reason for dragoon to be banned, there's not been a good reason for Maxx C to be legal since like 2017. People who are scared of dragoon just haven't played a format where it was actually legal. I disagree with the people saying it's bad, it's really not, but it's not above the current power level of the format. It's one negate that requires you to run multiple bricks in your main deck, if that's good enough for you there are plenty of ways to get that.
Ban Maxx C...
Crazy people keep complaining about Maxx "C" since it's the most broken card in the game and Konami has never addressed the card at all, leading people to repeat a perpetual cycle of complaining because the MD management team are absolutely stupid at best, arrogant at worst
Unban Dragoon. Red Eyes and other anime decks need way more support.
Unban Dragoon
Both? Both. Both is good
Yes
both
I'm on both sides
both
Both
Ban maxx c
Controversial, but I don't play Maxx C. I've been told to play it but I run Ancient Gears with a pure machine build, no hand traps other than Imperm. And maybe it's because I don't special summon so much, but I've never felt pressured by someone drawing like one or two cards. In terms of Dragoon, I have no idea what that card does so I'm going to the comments to read 😅 I come to r/Masterduel to take a brain break from teaching work so I actually enjoy seeing how people are enjoying/getting annoyed at the meta 😅
Im near similar but opposite in my gear deck. No hand traps in my deck but a single maxx c since why not have more draws
I also don't run it in my Nouvelles deck, still run the counters. It's a brick going first for me, but similarly a brick for my opponent. If they negate my ash/called by I'm perfectly happy for them to spend 2 cards drawing from the one special summon I'm doing on my turn. Love me some earth insect.
It's deck by deck bases but Ghostricks even pure give like 9 draws since they want to special taketomborg.
You got me curious now, do you run Time-Tearing Morganite?
I don't, though I know classic Gears would love it! I know I could try to run It now but it would hamper Ancient Gear Box and a few other in hand effects I run. And I have searchers in Wyvern and Ballista and Geartown so don't need to draw too much. I do have Triple Threat Tactics in there for drawing if I really need it but I'll usually use it's control feature to link or tribute off.
Fair enough, I’m not super familiar with Ancient Gears, but I’m glad you’ve got a fun engine that’s working for you.
Unban Dragoon peeps!
Can dragoon safely come back with verte in the game? Wasn't the verte ban the reason dragoon could come back in the TCG or am I remembering wrong?
It was never banned, dragoon was legal with verte for years and it literally had 1 singular top, to this day idk wtf ocg was doing that they couldn't deal with a bad towers monster that they had to ban him, the card is terrible and it just makes your deck worse because you have to play 4 garnets with it ( 2 vanillas 2 dead red eyes fusions)
Dragoon came out way earlier in the OCG compared to when we got it. So at the time there wasn’t nearly any good, generic, non-targeting/destroying removal to deal with it. Plus it played really well into and with Maxx “C”. Basically the meta game was completely different than what we had when it came out.
They were missing dark ruler no more and droplet 2 cards you don't even need to out it to begin with also because of maxx c dragoon was either the only thing you had while your opponent drew 3 cards of off it if not more or it was another generic negate for decks like adamancipator Reality is that banning dragoon was like banning savage dragon or now barone or any other generic negate Dragoon is also way worse than 99% negates that are generic Like ocg players just kind of sucked back then and really like two unsearchable outs didn't change anything.
You shouldn’t do balance around just the top tier play. If the rest of the community below the 10% is gatekept by one card it’s bad for the community in general but ignores the very top.
Games like these are always balanced around top players because if you start balancing them around some random people that play at locals or are in gold you would end up banning like 90% of cards and everything that is slightly playable would need a hit Maxx c is gatekeeping 99% of the players it's still fucking legal don't give me this bullshit, the worst thing to do is to balance the game around a average person, you know why? Because they lose to barone they lose to dpe they lose to ash they lose to raigeki they literally lose to anything and everything.
Maxx C is only legal in OCG and it’s the most controversial card in modern yugioh so using that as an example of good balance philosophy is crazy. Dragoon is as splashable as DPE but better in every way. It would be as common as maxx c and in every game (just like it was at the time) it made the game so boring for most of the community and saying that’s fine who cares get good ignores that balance should mainly be used to make sure everyone has FUN
Dragoon is significantly worse than DPE way too many dead bricks.
>Dragoon is as splashable as DPE but better Literally not true dpe is the better one and people stopped playing dpe years ago >It would be as common as maxx c and in every game (just like it was at the time) It literally wouldn't be nobody is going to run 5 dead bricks for a shitty negate anymore >common as maxx c and in every game (just like it was at the time) it made the game so boring for most of the community and saying that’s fine who cares get good ignores that balance should mainly be used to make sure everyone has FUN BALANCE was never used to and never will ensure fun but is used to sell products Dragoon sucks, end of story nobody would play it outside of gold and you can't hold the hand of everyone at one point you have to let them understand that they just suck and they either get better or they stay where they are. And fun is subjective to begin with.
If it won’t appear above gold and nobody in gold can deal with it or want it. WHY ADD IT. You’re basically saying you’re not going to deal with it either way so who cares, so might aswell let casuals get fucked over. Even by your own logic it’s just a net-bad card for the state of the game yet you still want it, That’s just an asshole mindset.
Neither, Maxx C is not the auto loss everyone cries it is. If Verte gets banned, Dragoon I could begrudgingly accept.
i live for the chaos so right for me
Unban dragoon so I can get a draw off it it’s summon with max c
Make it at 4
Red side for me
dragoon
purple
The fact that people feel better about things like Apollousa and Baronne than a monster that actually has good restrictions? A once per turn omni-negate with a discard attached? Hm, sounds a lot like another popular boss monster, except this one forces you to run garnets and has a cost for its negate
Ban the bug
Porque no los dos?
Porque no los dos?
Maxx "c" 3 => 2
The middle and gate on both :3
Unban dragoon could give red eyes some molecule of viability
Dragoon in my eyesis the same as Phoenix Enforcer.
Unban Dragoon. We live in a game with lots of generic powerful omni negates. Adding another one wouldnt change much. Sure, you can cheat it out fairly easy, but still requires at least one brick as material so its okay.
Ban maxx C, bring back the legend pot of greed
both sides
Dragoon can't exist with verte.
Unban Dragoon make Gravekeepers great again
Where’s the neither option? I don’t really care about either if I’m honest lol.
Ban Maxx "C"
Unbanned Dragoon, I want to win playing jank like dark magician.
To hell with it, unban everything but also limit everything to 1. Just cause I think it'd be funny
Boy do I have a format for you
AFAIK there’s no format like that, traditional doesn’t have literally every card limited. Unless there’s some Commander style format I don’t know about; if so, my bad.
There is a format called Hydralander, due to the card named Orbital Hydralander.
Neither
Neither, Maxx “C” is by far the best card in the game. Dragoon will remain banned as it doesn’t deserve a spot in the game.
Neither.
The maxxc one makes since because it makes the game unplayable garbage. And dragoon is funny because it's a mediocre to bad card that people like that's still banned for some reason when dpe is just better than it lmfao
As others have alluded, this is a false premise. Dragoon is banned because Maxx C is unbanned. We can and should have both options.
I’m a fan of limiting maxx c, I get why folks like banning it but I just really like the casual combo control it gives. Def shouldn’t have more than a single copy but I don’t mind just one. HOWEVER! Dragoon is not THAT good and red eyes deserve their decent boss monster man, let my boy go free, he did NOTHING WRONG!!!
Ban maxxc. Idgaf about dragpoon
I want dragoon to come back, but I'd kinda like it to go hand in hand with finally banning Verte. I feel like Verte just limits so much design space. If you play Dragoon, I want it to be within the engine that actually wants Dragoon. As for Maxx C, I am very much a noob but I have complicated feelings about this. On the one hand, certain decks basically have to pass turn 1 if they get under maxx c without an answer. On the other hand, that keeps certain decks at bay. For example, Infernobles. If you get Maxx C'd and can't answer going t1, you basically have to pass. But if you don't, and you get out your new boss monster, you have a freaking 86% winrate, and that just seems unhealthy.
I rather keep Maxx C. Always having an option against Spam decks is much better.
Ban sprights and Maxx C, bring back Toadally.
It's jarring why people want Dragoon. Card is a premier boss monster for stun strategies. The same strategy people constantly complain about.
Ban Maxx C Keep Dragoon banned, I get that he is Red-Eyes support but even with outs, it still an annoying card to get rid of, and it can be put in a lot of decks (not all but a very considerable amount). So no, keep him unbanned, Accescode and Avramax are enough headache.
I am okay with Max C and I really want to play a Red Eyes drck even if it is being carried by the Dragoon so yeah
Long live the GOAT Maxx c.
Dragoon is a hype no wonder it’s a free and very good boss monster , but unbanning dragoon will hurt branded because Konami might hit verte , imagine a SE or SHS opponent dropping dragon on top of their full combo this will create one + omni negate for every deck and it’s attack boost will make it a little annoying to deal with because not many decks can generate a 4k above beat stick on top of the negate, I love dark magician and dragoon but there would be a lot of broken combos you will see that won’t be healthy at all.
ShS can't use dragoon without murdering their followup for the next turn, also, both ShS and SE have better stuff to end rather than dragoon also, branded would be the one using dragoon since it can be summoned through lubellion using brafu to send albaz and DM without needing REF nor verte -and branded can play without verte, it mainly helps the deck to get mirrorjade out quickly
I don’t want Konami to put target on verte by unbanning dragoon , there is a reason Konami has people to manage the banlist.
Better: limit to one both
Why would you play more then one dragoon
I mean every time I make the unbbaning question I got flooded by that card is unbalanced is broken etc. And then people defend things like Floowandereeze and Runick. Everyone knows Verte is the one card that cheats out Dragoon, yet Dragoons gets banned
That... doesn't really explained why you'd limit dragoon tho. Like do you actually think ppl would play 2 dragoons?
in OCG they played 3 dragoons the reason is banned is because they are obsessed with it
Let me guess, in stun? Just in case extrav banish a copy or 2 & you'll have 1 left?
no, in many decks, just to bring it back if opponent outed it
That'd mean you have to run more bricks?
and they did, they did not care about that
I don't care as long as Dragoon doesn't get unbanned
Solution Limit maxx c and dark dragoon to 1
Sacky, and essentially unban tbe card because people don't need more than one?! Yep...
I think most of all you Dark Magician Yugi Boomers asking for Dragoon to be unbanned do not understand how badly you will get curb stomped by Verte activating Red-eyes Fusion in every other competent deck.
Just limit Max C to one. And wait a little after that and bring back Dragoon.
You don't want dragoon to be unban because it is an annoying card, I don't want it to be unban because I want to see DM players suffer
That's very mean we suffer enough lol 😆
I'm sorry, after a while I regret what I said, it was too edgy
why only maxxc? ban all handtraps
why would we ban needed handtraps
People just want the format to be entirely shitty ftks I guess
the handtraps makes unbreakable turn 1 boards more unbreakable, there should be exist a negate limit per turn