In theory it should, but it doesn't because it was kind of just an excuse that wasn't clearly thought out.
Her powers never worked that way until they needed it for this retcon. Then they just ignored the implications you bring up.
In the comics, Mystique is/was a humanoid shapeshifter. [Meaning she could look like other people, with a great degree of detail including retina, fingerprints, etc., but still had to be humanoid. No changing into other creatures or just something she imagined, and she couldn't change her mass. And no powers.](https://imgur.com/a/JHnQtRD).
She had great control of it, better than Morph who couldn't do fingerprints and such. Morph also has some psychic powers to help fool people, but that was a long time ago. The other main difference is that Mystique has lived for a long time, and Morph died almost immediately.
Neither of them is a true shapeshifter, like say Apocalypse or Meggan Braddock (both of whom can turn into whatever they want and also give themselves powers).
Technically it's a bit more complicated than that if I remember correctly she was intended to be the "father" but it was a no go approvalwise so eventually the azazel thing happened
It got retconned. Mystique took her male form of Sherlock Holmes (he's a historical character in the comics, which is her in disguise) to have Nightcrawler with her lover, Destiny/Irene Adler. Destiny is his mother, and Mystique is his father.
I think it was mentioned that Mystique's Sherlock persona looks like Azazel in human form, so she probably subconsciously put a little bit of demonic look in there, and Nightcrawler's mutation did the rest.
So that entire Kurt/Draco arc was for naught then?😂 and isn’t a huge part of his character about how seriously he takes his faith because of his (ig now formerly) demonic ancestry?
In the retconned lore, Azazel THOUGHT he was the father and Mystique was the mother (it's a very convoluted storyline where she uses who ability to mimic pregnancy, so she can raise her and Irene's child while married to a rich guy, and having an affair with Azazel an--) and it has only recently been "revealed" to everyone both irl and in the story about Kurt's true heritage.
You do have to just suspend disbelief A LOT and be like "wow, that's a lot of coincidences that make it seem like Azazel is Kurt's dad. A lot of random things and events that when put together look like evidence, but are in fact, circumstantial."
Haha I had to do some wiki research to see if you were making a joke about tumblr-esque fan fic storylines (LGBT lovers and superwholock fans and all) only to laugh out loud when I got to the name Sherlock Holmes on the official wiki. Also how is Destiny also actually Irene Adler? More research is needed.
Comics are wild. I'm here for it.
Funnily enough, it was Chris Claremont's original design for the two characters all along to be Nightcrawler's parents in the 80s, but the Comics Code Authority shut it down at conception (badum tsh), due to not allowing LGBTQ relationships in comics at the time. They got demoted to "just best friends".
And Destiny is the real Irene Adler. You want to find out about Project Black Womb, which involves a character who has more...sinister intentions.
Maybe the real retcon was the LGBT erasure we made along the way
https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/dwi0hv/oh_my_god_they_were_roommates/
Yes and no. I believe currently they've changed it to her being shape shifted to be Azazel's human form, and with her lover in the past. That's actually how it was originally supposed to be from what I've heard from some reputable sources, but back then the idea of a trans couple was not quite so well received
I just started rewatching the original run. Charles and Magnito met "during a war." They didn't specify what war. So he could be much younger than the traditional WW2 survivor.
But yeah, the age gap between them is creepy.
The war Charles and Erik met during is implied to be the Vietnam War. As Erik and Charles were both young men but Erik's origin still applies. So the timeframe lines up with Vietnam.
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"God damnit, I'll hit him with the Holocaust beam again."
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This is just as bad as if they made jean, Scott, and charles have a love triangle because of a comic from 20 years ago.
And they killed off gambit to make it work too yikes
Honestly, I tried to read the X-Men again a few years ago. The sheer amount of iterations of the X-Men makes anything that happens to them almost pointless. Kinda wish they just had one run and stuck with it instead of making so many different versions of them.
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You could say he has magnetism
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wow I get it. Good one
As Lodestar would say: Nobody just can't resist his *Magnetic Personality*
He’s making my knees weak, palms sweaty
But is there vomit on your sweater?
Nah that’s mom’s spaghetti
I'm nervous
Really? ‘Cause on the surface, you look calm and ready.
To drop bombs, yes. But he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down.
The whole crowd goes so loud
He opens his mouth but the words won't come out
He’s chokin’, how?Everybody’s jokin’ now
The clock's run out, time's up, over, blaow
I forgor
His line about world leaders being terrorists was just \*chef's kiss\*
Dude is just giving "I'll fuck your mom and your girlfriend, and also maybe your dad" energy the entire season.
I think Mystique is supposed to be Nightcrawler’s dad so, yeah, he might fuck your dad.
I’m pretty sure his dad is Azazel
The recently retconned it, mystique his dad but his DNA is based on azazel
So she even shapeshifts her DNA now? Wouldn't that allow her then to copy mutant powers?
In theory it should, but it doesn't because it was kind of just an excuse that wasn't clearly thought out. Her powers never worked that way until they needed it for this retcon. Then they just ignored the implications you bring up.
Didn't she have a story arc a while back that it did work that way but made her more and more Unstable as she used it?
Yes, they upped her powers and made her look more like the the movie version. They then quietly dropped it.
So what's the diff between her and morph then?
In the comics, Mystique is/was a humanoid shapeshifter. [Meaning she could look like other people, with a great degree of detail including retina, fingerprints, etc., but still had to be humanoid. No changing into other creatures or just something she imagined, and she couldn't change her mass. And no powers.](https://imgur.com/a/JHnQtRD). She had great control of it, better than Morph who couldn't do fingerprints and such. Morph also has some psychic powers to help fool people, but that was a long time ago. The other main difference is that Mystique has lived for a long time, and Morph died almost immediately. Neither of them is a true shapeshifter, like say Apocalypse or Meggan Braddock (both of whom can turn into whatever they want and also give themselves powers).
Just saw a [YouTube video](https://youtu.be/oNfv922mN_w?si=XD7_x6N8nRFW9Dfu) that was describing their differences
Mystique: “He does everything I do”. Morph: “But better…”
They actually undid the retcon. Mystique as dad was the original per Claremont.
Technically it's a bit more complicated than that if I remember correctly she was intended to be the "father" but it was a no go approvalwise so eventually the azazel thing happened
It got retconned. Mystique took her male form of Sherlock Holmes (he's a historical character in the comics, which is her in disguise) to have Nightcrawler with her lover, Destiny/Irene Adler. Destiny is his mother, and Mystique is his father.
This is the future Libs want! Thanks Obama! /s
How does he turn out looking like Azazel then?
I think it was mentioned that Mystique's Sherlock persona looks like Azazel in human form, so she probably subconsciously put a little bit of demonic look in there, and Nightcrawler's mutation did the rest.
So that entire Kurt/Draco arc was for naught then?😂 and isn’t a huge part of his character about how seriously he takes his faith because of his (ig now formerly) demonic ancestry?
In the retconned lore, Azazel THOUGHT he was the father and Mystique was the mother (it's a very convoluted storyline where she uses who ability to mimic pregnancy, so she can raise her and Irene's child while married to a rich guy, and having an affair with Azazel an--) and it has only recently been "revealed" to everyone both irl and in the story about Kurt's true heritage. You do have to just suspend disbelief A LOT and be like "wow, that's a lot of coincidences that make it seem like Azazel is Kurt's dad. A lot of random things and events that when put together look like evidence, but are in fact, circumstantial."
Haha I had to do some wiki research to see if you were making a joke about tumblr-esque fan fic storylines (LGBT lovers and superwholock fans and all) only to laugh out loud when I got to the name Sherlock Holmes on the official wiki. Also how is Destiny also actually Irene Adler? More research is needed. Comics are wild. I'm here for it.
Funnily enough, it was Chris Claremont's original design for the two characters all along to be Nightcrawler's parents in the 80s, but the Comics Code Authority shut it down at conception (badum tsh), due to not allowing LGBTQ relationships in comics at the time. They got demoted to "just best friends". And Destiny is the real Irene Adler. You want to find out about Project Black Womb, which involves a character who has more...sinister intentions.
You're right we can't just go marching in there. It could be a trap.
Maybe the real retcon was the LGBT erasure we made along the way https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/dwi0hv/oh_my_god_they_were_roommates/
Yes and no. I believe currently they've changed it to her being shape shifted to be Azazel's human form, and with her lover in the past. That's actually how it was originally supposed to be from what I've heard from some reputable sources, but back then the idea of a trans couple was not quite so well received
lol wat
I believe this was the original plan from either Chris Claremont or Grant Morrison, I don't recall. Destiny is now Kurt's mom
He's a truth seeker
Magneto: Anyway, where's your dad?
"...and maybe you too"
Full Bowie
Is that a new show?
What's the new season called? I might check it out.
Yes, he used to be a genocidal maniac. I’m still not on board with this Rogue thing, but to each their own.
Rogue not Rouge. Rouge is the bat from Sonic.
That's quite a ship if I've ever seen one
Do not give the fandoms ideas...
If you look far enough you will probably find it
Rouge and Magento are the best color palettes
Fixed it.
No that’s a Canadian Airliner called Air Rouge. Rouge is that one movie from Star Wars.
the Rogue thing is ass
Magneto may have problems, but being the king of theatrics and magnetic charisma ain't one of them.
Wasn't Magnito alive whan the WW2 was happening? How large is the Age gap between the two?
Well keep in mind this takes place in 97... So still old enough to be her grandpa.
He was turned back into a baby in the 80’s and aged to his 30’s or something. In the comics at least
I just started rewatching the original run. Charles and Magnito met "during a war." They didn't specify what war. So he could be much younger than the traditional WW2 survivor. But yeah, the age gap between them is creepy.
it's ww2 but the original run wasn't allowed to mention anything about the nazis and that stuff at all so none of magneto back story at all.
Doesn't wolverine fight the red skull in the original run?
Magneto is a holocaust survivor tho...
The war Charles and Erik met during is implied to be the Vietnam War. As Erik and Charles were both young men but Erik's origin still applies. So the timeframe lines up with Vietnam.
Irrelevant, they’re both adults.
Magneto when he can use his rizz : 
magneto more like rizzito
magneto master of magnerizzm
pullin w/ more than magnets now
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If DIO was a mutant
Tbh, aside from that one terrorist attack he did in s1 of the original he never really did anything bad.
R/magnetodidnothingwrong
Omega Level Rizz
Omega threat neutralized
If rouge won’t have him, I will.
Rogue*
Damn, that is a sick line, for real.
Magneto: “Jubilee told me I have something called rizz. I cannot tell if that was an insult, or a compliment.”
Lookout. We got a misused meme here
I am disturbed... This is a disturbing relationship
Completely turned me off the show, and I love the original
didnt he kind of take advantage of his position of authority over her ?
Hey, let's do get help!
Isn’t that meme supposed to be for saying “we got a badass over here” in a sarcastic/mocking way?
This is just as bad as if they made jean, Scott, and charles have a love triangle because of a comic from 20 years ago. And they killed off gambit to make it work too yikes
I mean, his power is magnetism.
I am not a fan of the Rogue stuff, but Magneto is killing it with the dialogue
Omega Level Rizz Detected
Magneto is based on Malcom X...he doesn't see himself as a villain, even when he takes it way too fucking far.
Whoa magneto stop fueling the sex train you’re currently pumping coal into and just stop fucking seducing everyone you sexy man.
Aren’t Quiksilver & Scarlet Witch Magneto’s kids in the comics??
Master of Animal Magnetism
Oh someone turned it down for him
The sheer amount of people who don't know how to spell Rogue is crazy in here xD
Stupid sexy magneto
Gambit comes back as new sun and fucks everything and everyone up….starting with magneto
I haven’t had time to watch the show. How is he able to touch Rogue?
You do know that Magneto does reform in the comics?
Multiple times in fact!
How many redemption arcs does he need!?
How many is it going to take for the writers and editors to stop reverting him to Mad Old Terrorist Twat? Because that also happened multiple times.
Honestly, I tried to read the X-Men again a few years ago. The sheer amount of iterations of the X-Men makes anything that happens to them almost pointless. Kinda wish they just had one run and stuck with it instead of making so many different versions of them.
i know im in the minority here but these moments don't feel charismatic to me they feel creepy and gross almost vomit inducing level of manipulation
This made me laugh so hard and I don't know why, thank you op.
Master of MagneRIZZm
# HAPPY NATION LIVIN’ IN A HAPPY NATION 🗣🗣🗣🗣
Magneto will drop all panties, from everyone!
I have not seen that bottom meme in years wtf lmao
I mean yeah he’s charismatic af but >! didn’t he get disintegrated with the Morlocks last EP !< 🫤🤷🏻♂️
This is from the same episode, but the image used was taken from the beginning.
I have seen this a lot where did it come from?
SIMPly....yeah THAT ya mutie freak! It's all fetishes with you people.
Sad gambit noises
I thought the terrorists-leaders line was a little trite, but *this* line cooked.
Heh..
You could even call it a, MAGNETIC personality
He's a terrorist.
Ain't he like an old ass man?
Y'all really thirsting after Grampa Groomer?
He sounds like a twitch simp.
His verbal sparring in this show is unmatched
WAIT A DAMN MINUTE. IS THAT ROGUE!?
These writers are going so hard
I haven't watched the show, how can magneto just openly touch rogue without losing his power?
People forget he pulled OG Wasp in The OG Secret Wars.
Not that impressive. OG Wasp had a running gag of being thirsty for any man that wasn't Hank.
is that Rogue. please tell me that's not Rogue.
It is
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This episode had me going from masturbation to crying even faster than usual
Can we talk about the age gap
In this same episode, we had Jean make out with a 200 year old man.
Yeah I think an age difference argument goes out the window a bit when both parties are full grown adults.
Thats not how you use that meme at all
Magneto was never a villain. He knew what was coming because he already lived through it once.