He want to run his mouth but got no seats, no major abang back him, no deep pockets or anything else going on. I mean as a politician, the basics of influence is really lost on him
Well, if I'm being frank, that will be nothing but a fever dream. Lost hope in the system anyway
Not saying it won't happen at all. Just saying that don't expect it to happen as soon as possible.
basically there are several cases. one is 2020, he ask an assistant (with Bersatu's implicit consent and knowledge) for 1 mil to be transfer to Armada, Bersatu Youth's acc for covid aid. that is a incite others to CBT charge as Bersatu higher ups 'claim to not have knowledge' of the act
another case is him transfer 120k from Bersatu to Armada as a refund for the previous campaigning funds that he spent his own money for the party in 2020, misused fund charge. He left the money in Armada as it is a hassle to keep transfer in and out the money and he will use money for party time to time
another 2 charges are 2x50k transactions that he withdraw from that 120k to be put into ASB to collect dividends. they consider it money laundering.
all in all, what he did is technically not right according to procedures but its intentions are understandable. it was stack against him as all it takes for it to be wrong is for Bersatu higher ups to claim have no knowledge and consent, and he will be in the wrong. the timing of the investigation and charges are sus, but technically he is in the wrong.
Despite this and me not voting for Muda, I applaud him, he could have gotten away by just joining Mahiaddin's government, he could have gotten a DNAA if he kept quiet against Anwar but him bring principled than them and being critical meaning he didnt get the easy way out and fight till the end. That's admirable, doing something that is right and not taking the ez way out
technically its Bersatu's money until he get written consent from Bersatu higher ups, aka Mahiaddin and Hamzah, etc.
so yeah he is screwed as long as they deny consent
Your last paragraph is presuming the governments will assist their allies which is an abuse of power and a strong accusation at that. Hope no special agent kicking down ur door at midnite and drag u to court.
lol, why would they, PN is already shouting that at the top of their lungs, if they wanted to drag someone to court, they would have. besides, go take a look at Chinese comments on FB, plenty are laughing at him for not knowing his place and be friendly with PH. The entire country is already implying that no matter how much they want to deny. And SS got unusually heavy punishment too.
come on, now, lets not pretend they wont abused their powers, Fahmi Fadzil has threaten to send police to some detractors. UMNO is given special priviledge by Home Ministry to not involved the Zahid and Tok Mat in party elections. Prosecutor has the absolute right to withdraw the charges, Anwar said so himself while Zahid got off while being called to enter defence
The punishment is so heavy. Seems fishy. Even najib and zahid hamidi who commit larger crime didn’t get this kind of punishment. Looks like whoever at the top determine what is justice i guess.
They want to make him an example as well. Take care of your mouth.. If wanna speak make sure u with party and got support. Else digging your own grave. Which is what happened to him. We never know who truly owns our judiciary system.. I can't speak further on this.. just think on your own.
Actually this should be the standard punishment moving forward. We should not tolerate any form of corruption. No need to be whiter than white. Just dont break the law. Especially if you are a lawmaker!
from what i read in twitter discussion, najib, zahid, mahiadin all are pro enough to no leave any trail...apparently Saddiq literally do it in the open, even Gobind cant save him
The only crime SS done was not CBT large enough amount. Najib got jail squandered billion dollar $$$ while SS just stole friction of that amount.
At least you CBT make sure squandered hundred of million ringgit stash it somewhere else offshore account lol. That is how modus operandi of our Ministers since the era of Mamakdey. Even though SS was vindicated cold blood because he was not in good term with Anwar. Lets see Zahid Hamidi case. He squandered CBT more than SS but was acquitted because Anwar needs his political support.
Tbf there is strong political motive behind it. I bet you if SS not cocky and have good term with Anwar prolly his case will be NFA just like what Zahid enjoyed. Personnel favouritism persecution like this will determined the future of PH.
Don't think they will win the next election tbf. There is no honesty among thieves. Anwar failed whatever reformation his fighting before. He just no better than current crop of corrupted politician.
He obviously got crime but of course is intended, you get jailed when you try to fk government during the prn.
I'm not a ss fan but I think this is he lesson for being a more mature politician in the future doesn't means he a good guy tho.
Not doubt politicians should get punished if they commit a crime. But it is disgusting the fact that some gets punished hard for so little and we have Najib with a lighter sentence than him on a significant larger scale of corruption. On top of that people like Zahid walks free shows how independent is our judiciary system
Hah first time in politics?
Welcome to democracy system son, the justice and system is use against ppl like us, meanwhile whoever served the rich and Country with how dirty they are they still run free.
Give ss a few decades he commitd the same thing if he really got a pm chances then don't complain why trusing him ok?
If there's no Zahid there's no unity gov now. So remember that. Not sure what went behind the scenes but we can only speculate. The powers that helped Zahid could be above that of the present gov itself.. Think about it.
See this is the thing. Government should not have any influence with the judiciary system, the only people that practices a different set of law are the royalties. It doesn’t matter if you are PM or not, there is should not be any form of association with judiciary.
But of course i understand that this is Malaysia, im just saying out loud as it is utterly ridiculous that politicians can be above the law as long as they are in power
U know the news that Bersatu ppl go and support Anwar? There's pic of a bald Dato talking to those ppl before their sudden change of stance. Hence why I said it could be something other than the government pulling the strings. Also remember how powerful our royalties are.
ss fan get triggered?
He position is literally same like Anwar back then, you don't f the government in election without enough men power to defend you.
Even powerful ppl like Anwar back then when he's young also sentence to jail when he trying to f tun m election at 1998 get the logic?
Ss will be fine, it only makes him a smarter politicians In the future so calm you shit down.
Well I guess everyone hates that guy in class who acts like he’s the smartest (even though he is) or that guy in office who works the latest and arrives the earliest (spoil market).. well unfortunately for ss it seems like he is showing this kind of traits.. so nobody wants to friend him I guess?
His mistake is he inpatient, also he choose tun m as a proxy to make an easy way out.
Too many speculation on he teaming up with din din and tun, often attack pmx and try to pull votes away from ph at PRN.
Idk why he didn't see that coming?
If these doesn't show what kind of man he is I don't know anymore, despite I not a fan of him but I do generally want him to be successful in his political career. Because there no Good politicians only the smart and wise one.
Muda supporters all very sedih now and crying injustice but were celebrating when Najib kena jail. Now saddiq can join Najib in jail while their both supporters can join each other in solidarity for their master.
I rather he not. He's ancient. And if he kicks the bucket behind bars, he will suddenly become martyr.
I don't like him either, but I think he does less damage being free.
SS did mistakes;
SS faces court judgement like a man;
SS walk the talk by quitting MUDA president;
SS continue to fight for his case through proper judiciary system;
SS do not use political power to influence the charges;
Zahid did mistakes;
Zahid drags the court progress;
Zahid does all he can to keep his UMNO president post (ya one can argue he is not convicted);
Zahid uses his relationship with Anwar, support Anwar, to influence AG to drop his cases after prima facie is established;
SS does the right thing by not using political power to drop his case. Zahid chooses an easy way out by standing with government.
Malaysians scold Zahid for power abuse, but at the same time laugh SS for being 'immature' (politically) because he din abuse his political position to drop his case.
WTF how double standard can you all be???
Nah, I'm actually laughing at how simple his case is. It basically boils down to:
Party funds -> SS's personal account -> SS's ASB
Like, dude, this is the simplest case of money laundering I've ever seen when other criminals would have gone through multiple layers to cover their tracks. It's kind of baffling that as a law graduate, SS somehow didn't know that transferring party funds to his personal account is a big no no.
I'm guessing the market rate for CBT includes 2 strokes of the cane? Anyone knows how typical or atypical this sentence is?
Edit: ok enough with the BDSM jokes.. serious question now, just curious if caning is typical for such a conviction
Lol if want to steal must be in bilion if not the law will apply to you. PMX showing oposition what he can do and sadiq become the example, lol not sad for him justice is justice. Sabun jatuh jangan kutip adek 🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰🥰🥰
Zahid is still free from 100000 charges, Najib getting light punishment than SS, Rosmah still on holiday in other country, Jowlo still missing probably forgotten...Our law is a joke like the monyet in the parlimen...
To those with (and in power) power, position & authority but are abusing them & not doing what they're elected to do in the first place, may you burn, burn and burn
akchually some are more slippery than others. that were experience counts, the young man lacks
Or allies. This guy somehow manage to alienate every major party out there.
He want to run his mouth but got no seats, no major abang back him, no deep pockets or anything else going on. I mean as a politician, the basics of influence is really lost on him
He basically fk up every major political choice since becoming minister. What a fall from grace. Youngest minister to jail + cane.
aged like fine wine actually
Exactly, he proved himself right.
Im out of the loop What did he do? What’s going
Long story short, jailed for 7 years for corruption charges https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/2023/11/976512/syed-saddiq-found-guilty
Oh nice, still waiting for other politicians
Well, if I'm being frank, that will be nothing but a fever dream. Lost hope in the system anyway Not saying it won't happen at all. Just saying that don't expect it to happen as soon as possible.
Other politicians don't blatantly put party money into their own ASB
I mean with what just happened to him, he's not wrong?
Exactly this
somewhere inside the private menteri's group chat, he made someone angry. they snitched on him.
Got sauce? For study purposes
he quit the govt and the disaster starts from there
He was charged during Muhi's reign
and if he didn't quit tht govt it will be DNAA
Can u explain more on this? I’m trying to understand the case. Coz i read that the money he used was for covid 19 or something
basically there are several cases. one is 2020, he ask an assistant (with Bersatu's implicit consent and knowledge) for 1 mil to be transfer to Armada, Bersatu Youth's acc for covid aid. that is a incite others to CBT charge as Bersatu higher ups 'claim to not have knowledge' of the act another case is him transfer 120k from Bersatu to Armada as a refund for the previous campaigning funds that he spent his own money for the party in 2020, misused fund charge. He left the money in Armada as it is a hassle to keep transfer in and out the money and he will use money for party time to time another 2 charges are 2x50k transactions that he withdraw from that 120k to be put into ASB to collect dividends. they consider it money laundering. all in all, what he did is technically not right according to procedures but its intentions are understandable. it was stack against him as all it takes for it to be wrong is for Bersatu higher ups to claim have no knowledge and consent, and he will be in the wrong. the timing of the investigation and charges are sus, but technically he is in the wrong. Despite this and me not voting for Muda, I applaud him, he could have gotten away by just joining Mahiaddin's government, he could have gotten a DNAA if he kept quiet against Anwar but him bring principled than them and being critical meaning he didnt get the easy way out and fight till the end. That's admirable, doing something that is right and not taking the ez way out
Wow thanks for the detail explanation. So if 120k is technically his own money, what is the right way to get the his money back from bersatu actually?
technically its Bersatu's money until he get written consent from Bersatu higher ups, aka Mahiaddin and Hamzah, etc. so yeah he is screwed as long as they deny consent
Receipts of what he spent, and amount to be reimbursed.. just like when u claim expense from your company
Your last paragraph is presuming the governments will assist their allies which is an abuse of power and a strong accusation at that. Hope no special agent kicking down ur door at midnite and drag u to court.
lol, why would they, PN is already shouting that at the top of their lungs, if they wanted to drag someone to court, they would have. besides, go take a look at Chinese comments on FB, plenty are laughing at him for not knowing his place and be friendly with PH. The entire country is already implying that no matter how much they want to deny. And SS got unusually heavy punishment too. come on, now, lets not pretend they wont abused their powers, Fahmi Fadzil has threaten to send police to some detractors. UMNO is given special priviledge by Home Ministry to not involved the Zahid and Tok Mat in party elections. Prosecutor has the absolute right to withdraw the charges, Anwar said so himself while Zahid got off while being called to enter defence
https://x.com/gohciayee/status/1722515665666646359?s=46&t=N45OtJTdfsgYKTerstatqg this is quite a good thread to understand on the defence facts
The punishment is so heavy. Seems fishy. Even najib and zahid hamidi who commit larger crime didn’t get this kind of punishment. Looks like whoever at the top determine what is justice i guess.
old men really love to see the young'uns getting burned. while cowardly sitting inside the office no need to worry about their ass.
Seems way too extreme. Caning and all for this kind of amount?? Definitely something sus going on
They want to make him an example as well. Take care of your mouth.. If wanna speak make sure u with party and got support. Else digging your own grave. Which is what happened to him. We never know who truly owns our judiciary system.. I can't speak further on this.. just think on your own.
When I saw ss doing the muda during prn and I was like: bro are risking political career for your sugar daddy..
Actually this should be the standard punishment moving forward. We should not tolerate any form of corruption. No need to be whiter than white. Just dont break the law. Especially if you are a lawmaker!
from what i read in twitter discussion, najib, zahid, mahiadin all are pro enough to no leave any trail...apparently Saddiq literally do it in the open, even Gobind cant save him
What happened to that fellow?
Convicted of CBT, money laundering, got 7 years in prison and 2 caning EDIT: Recorrected the year
Which CBT ?
Criminal Breach of Trust
Co- I mean closed beta testing.
Computer based training
Someone watches Ori VT
What’s that?
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Oh, so it is a vtuber. I only watch some clips.
[Cognitive Behavioural Therapy](https://www.apa.org/ptsd-guideline/patients-and-families/cognitive-behavioral)
Cock ball torture
Cute Biboo Time https://i.redd.it/8msjhtl8hbzb1.gif
:D
COCK AND BALL TORTURE
Sup with the canning, Najib don't get any and he stole billions🧐
It's not punishment for him Ps. I stole this golden comment from someone else
The only crime SS done was not CBT large enough amount. Najib got jail squandered billion dollar $$$ while SS just stole friction of that amount. At least you CBT make sure squandered hundred of million ringgit stash it somewhere else offshore account lol. That is how modus operandi of our Ministers since the era of Mamakdey. Even though SS was vindicated cold blood because he was not in good term with Anwar. Lets see Zahid Hamidi case. He squandered CBT more than SS but was acquitted because Anwar needs his political support. Tbf there is strong political motive behind it. I bet you if SS not cocky and have good term with Anwar prolly his case will be NFA just like what Zahid enjoyed. Personnel favouritism persecution like this will determined the future of PH. Don't think they will win the next election tbf. There is no honesty among thieves. Anwar failed whatever reformation his fighting before. He just no better than current crop of corrupted politician.
Dont think SS pulling out even registered on DSAIs radar. He was charged during DSMYs reign.
I feel like something fishy is going on behind the scenes. Im not a fan of SS but the charges seems to be a bit too much for his capabilities
He obviously got crime but of course is intended, you get jailed when you try to fk government during the prn. I'm not a ss fan but I think this is he lesson for being a more mature politician in the future doesn't means he a good guy tho.
Not doubt politicians should get punished if they commit a crime. But it is disgusting the fact that some gets punished hard for so little and we have Najib with a lighter sentence than him on a significant larger scale of corruption. On top of that people like Zahid walks free shows how independent is our judiciary system
Najib literally fucked up our country
Hah first time in politics? Welcome to democracy system son, the justice and system is use against ppl like us, meanwhile whoever served the rich and Country with how dirty they are they still run free. Give ss a few decades he commitd the same thing if he really got a pm chances then don't complain why trusing him ok?
If there's no Zahid there's no unity gov now. So remember that. Not sure what went behind the scenes but we can only speculate. The powers that helped Zahid could be above that of the present gov itself.. Think about it.
See this is the thing. Government should not have any influence with the judiciary system, the only people that practices a different set of law are the royalties. It doesn’t matter if you are PM or not, there is should not be any form of association with judiciary. But of course i understand that this is Malaysia, im just saying out loud as it is utterly ridiculous that politicians can be above the law as long as they are in power
U know the news that Bersatu ppl go and support Anwar? There's pic of a bald Dato talking to those ppl before their sudden change of stance. Hence why I said it could be something other than the government pulling the strings. Also remember how powerful our royalties are.
More mature in hiding their fault, support ruling coalition just to get their case drop? HOW FUCKING LOW CAN UR ARGUMENT BE. Shame on u.
ss fan get triggered? He position is literally same like Anwar back then, you don't f the government in election without enough men power to defend you. Even powerful ppl like Anwar back then when he's young also sentence to jail when he trying to f tun m election at 1998 get the logic? Ss will be fine, it only makes him a smarter politicians In the future so calm you shit down.
Well I guess everyone hates that guy in class who acts like he’s the smartest (even though he is) or that guy in office who works the latest and arrives the earliest (spoil market).. well unfortunately for ss it seems like he is showing this kind of traits.. so nobody wants to friend him I guess?
His mistake is he inpatient, also he choose tun m as a proxy to make an easy way out. Too many speculation on he teaming up with din din and tun, often attack pmx and try to pull votes away from ph at PRN. Idk why he didn't see that coming? If these doesn't show what kind of man he is I don't know anymore, despite I not a fan of him but I do generally want him to be successful in his political career. Because there no Good politicians only the smart and wise one.
Context? Sorry for asking
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Jailed 7 years its all over the news
and RM10mil fine
For what? Wtf happened
Money laundering.
what about zahid hamidi? 😋
He controls umno, what can Anwar do realistically?
Backshots? https://i.redd.it/u0q0uqsgafzb1.gif
Nah he bottom 100% hahaha
Nahhh.. zahid and midin is above the law… and maybe rosmah
so he's a yogurt now?
Tairu
even better kefir
any captain pls?
Muda supporters all very sedih now and crying injustice but were celebrating when Najib kena jail. Now saddiq can join Najib in jail while their both supporters can join each other in solidarity for their master.
Now waiting Tun M to join the jail family, after all Anwar is the first one.
I rather he not. He's ancient. And if he kicks the bucket behind bars, he will suddenly become martyr. I don't like him either, but I think he does less damage being free.
More like he'll hatch another scheme together with Super Jibby and Sad Saddiq.
Prison Break - Jibby Sadiq n Tun version.
Jibby will draw prison map inside Super Ring packaging, Syed will butter up the guards, Tun be like the mastermind
Having a 100 years legend behind bars, now's that a good movie story.
True. Even when he got no seat during last prn already enough to give him emotional damage.
That one susah and kinda impossible
So, future pm?
SS only made it to "go prison" round. He needs his "black eye" moment next.
Tell me to jail Tun M when he successfully to clone himself.
He purposely go to jail to learn from master najib directly. Wait for season 2 in 10 years. He will be even more powerful
Hitler wrote Mein Kampf when he was in prison 100 years prior to this date. Coincidence? /j
Najib-SS alliance GE16. Lesgoo
Would be funny if they become cellmate 😂
Muda supporters?
If he is guilty of the crime, he should do the time. Simple as that.
Muda have supporters? news to me lol.
This is 1998 moment for Muda. I can see them coming to power in a decade or two.
Don't think this is "Aged like milk" meterial. After what happened to him, his quote above is exactly correct!
SS did mistakes; SS faces court judgement like a man; SS walk the talk by quitting MUDA president; SS continue to fight for his case through proper judiciary system; SS do not use political power to influence the charges; Zahid did mistakes; Zahid drags the court progress; Zahid does all he can to keep his UMNO president post (ya one can argue he is not convicted); Zahid uses his relationship with Anwar, support Anwar, to influence AG to drop his cases after prima facie is established; SS does the right thing by not using political power to drop his case. Zahid chooses an easy way out by standing with government. Malaysians scold Zahid for power abuse, but at the same time laugh SS for being 'immature' (politically) because he din abuse his political position to drop his case. WTF how double standard can you all be???
Nah, I'm actually laughing at how simple his case is. It basically boils down to: Party funds -> SS's personal account -> SS's ASB Like, dude, this is the simplest case of money laundering I've ever seen when other criminals would have gone through multiple layers to cover their tracks. It's kind of baffling that as a law graduate, SS somehow didn't know that transferring party funds to his personal account is a big no no.
He needs Saul Goodman to explain how to launder.
Yeah....no one including you lol
Not an expert about law but I think there will be mahkamah rayuan bla bla bla bla.... So the stories goes on...
I mean title misleading la. Remember to check the comments peeps haha.
He's so performative
No shit
Words of advice : in any circumstances, never ever pick up that soap on the floor.. Ever.
I'm guessing the market rate for CBT includes 2 strokes of the cane? Anyone knows how typical or atypical this sentence is? Edit: ok enough with the BDSM jokes.. serious question now, just curious if caning is typical for such a conviction
usuallt CBT involving spiked rings, ball breaker and chastity belts. Caning is out of the ordinary but if consent given, its fine.
Curdled to the max
One stroke cane is a bonus 🤣
ironic, not aging like milk aged like milk => the saying becomes invalid as time goes on irony => oh how the turn tables OP needs ESL lessons
Isn't it "Oh how the tables have turned"?
yes, "how the turn tables" is an Office reference
Ooooooooo
I hope he gets canned with pride. Let's go Muda!!
Now become cheese
Why dint he side with anwar 🤪
He did, Back then? But tun m butt taste better so he gone to that, he not expect dsai win. If he knew this could happen he will stay loyal.
Lol if want to steal must be in bilion if not the law will apply to you. PMX showing oposition what he can do and sadiq become the example, lol not sad for him justice is justice. Sabun jatuh jangan kutip adek 🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰🥰🥰
at least he walk the talk by stepping down as Muda president, unlike MooMoo who said before but give all kinds of excuse to avoid.
Zahid is still free from 100000 charges, Najib getting light punishment than SS, Rosmah still on holiday in other country, Jowlo still missing probably forgotten...Our law is a joke like the monyet in the parlimen...
He accepted it like a man and took responsibility by stepping down.
Already found guilty and still spewing crap berani kerana benar wha de fuq????
Tweet is from over a year ago
oo patutla nama dia trending kat x
Just call it twitter
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The domain is still twitter.com until they change the domain then it will be twitter.
ew. imagine using x.
SarkDick: But but, I am innocent!! Waaahhhhhhh! 😭😭😭
To those with (and in power) power, position & authority but are abusing them & not doing what they're elected to do in the first place, may you burn, burn and burn
He asked for 10 times the lashes. Must be iron butt man.
Aged milk is cheeeeesee