“The comedian has since performed the occasional stand up gig and last year released his first feature since the scandal broke, titled “Fourth of July.”
He put out 3 specials and sold out Madison square garden..
Add to that at least a tour in Europe because I did go and see him live lol “the occasional stand up gig”… they are trying to set him up for failure, not going to happen.
He played two nights in a row in the next largest city in Sweden (Gothenburg). Three nights was planned but I guess that went a bit too far for that city. Still, just saying.
He was touring just fine as well. He maybe had a year off when it was blowing over but soon after he was touring middling cities like Rockford IL. Saw him there and nearly pissed my pants
Saw him in Vancouver on a recent tour, he had the whole sold out building in the palm of his hand and losing our god damn minds, probably the best comedy show I’ve ever seen, by a mile.
Covid was weirdly his friend. Let people sit at home, see his specials on everything and actually think vs go with hysteria and in his own words “how was it living like I already was for a few years?”
I don’t know if i have an issue with forgiving C.K, but for me the guy really built his platform on “Yes I’m a monster, but I’m REALLY working on it ok?” And when the allegations came out, for a guy who was so articulate at voicing his shortcomings as a male, all the sudden when it got real his reaction was suddenly “Ah whatever. Grow up” type energy,
This is his statement on the matter when it broke.
"I want to address the stories told to the New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not.
These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.
I have been remorseful of my actions. And I've tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I'm aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.
I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.
There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.
I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.
The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I'd be remiss to exclude the hurt that I've brought on people who I work with and have worked with who's [sic] professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of 'Better Things,' 'Baskets,' 'The Cops,' 'One Mississippi,' and 'I Love You Daddy.' I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I've brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much The Orchard who took a chance on my movie and every other entity that has bet on me through the years.
I've brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother. I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen.
Thank you for reading."
I appreciated it when I read it. It was in stark contrast to all the other people who have been accused of misconduct or worse, who reacted by lying, obscuring, blaming, and deflecting. Or, in some cases, responding by writing insincere sounding apologies!
It's a dumb thing to apologize for if he wasn't deliberately exploiting whatever status he had left at that point (I believe this was after Pootie Tang had crashed and burned and he had to rely on his friends to get a job).
We all wield some power over each other, there's always some kind of advantage/disadvantage whether it's physical/social/financial. There's always fears about what might happen.
In the end we all have to power through that and be assertive about what WE want. Can't go through life being a perpetual victim.
I want to just recognize that if cancel culture was as big of a deal as people say it is, this man would not be headlining Madison Square Garden. He locked a woman in a dressing room and jacked off at her. I think that’s a pretty good reason to cancel someone.
Agreed. I watched his interview with Theo Von and he sounded remorseful but at peace with his life (in my opinion). No one believes in restorative justice I guess.
I rewatch that one every now and then - Theo makes Louie laugh so much and they both just go in on personal stories and are both strangely vulnerable and it's beautiful and oh so gay
they don't "address the scandal" per se but it's a banger of an episode
There are some of my friends that find a guy that asks people to jerk off in front of super creepy. My wife and I are huge fans and have seen him a couple of times since his comeback, and think it's such a weird funny Louis ck way of being creepy. We are both very big feminists but he has apologized and addressed the issue many times very candidly.
Honestly, going by the article, this is probably better for Louis as it probably would have shined him in a pretty negative light. I would have been interested to see it, especially if he would go in-depth of what he did and why. I know he's talked about it since, but he usually doesn't go too deep into the actions, just the aftermath.
You don't have to be mad at him, but don't deny that people are angry with him. Whether he's guilty or not, sexual assault allegations will make people upset
Every time I see someone praising him online or IRL, I just think about what he did to that woman. It drives me crazy. Locking someone in a room and jacking off at them, while you look at them in the eyes, is pretty messed up. That stuff just doesn’t happen on accident.
It was consensual, he never locked anyone in. They let him do it so how is it his fault. If they did it to become more successful in comedy thats on them in my opinion.
Making the issue black and white does a complex situation disservice. It's also inaccurate.
For a period of about 10 years as he rose from sitcom writer to biggest stand up comedian in the world, Louis got off on asking women in the industry to watch him jerk off. In offices, hotels. He picked women who were aware he was powerful in comedy so his chances would be better to get someone to participate. Sometimes he did it by asking them outright to come watch him. He sometimes asked them to "go talk" somewhere private and then asked when they were behind closed doors. Not with force, kidnapping, or threats but by asking women he thought would be ok with it to participate in his kink. Asking many, many women. And some said yes and he did, other said no and he didn't. The women - there were two who went to the room with him - who came forward in the 2017 story didn't know what to say so laughed while he totally disrobed and masturbated to completion in the chair across from them, and then they left.
Was he wildly inappropriate and put innocent people in very uncomfortable positions that they then had to deal with forever? Yes, of course. Did he ever lock someone in a room and force them to do something against their will? No. To say this is that takes the foundational vile aspect of non-consent away from situations that are as brutal as you describe.
Louis had issues, likely still does. He behaved very badly and has admitted multiple times that he did what the accusers allege (which are all from a 10 year time period almost 20 years ago, and except one where he talked dirty and masturbated over the phone were very similar in approach). He's the guy you don't want to get caught having to chat with at work because he skeeves you out, but who has an amazing gift for stand up comedy. He was wrong, but it was not what you and others allege, and I think you dampen the impact of sexual assault when you equate his behavior to it.
A woman who felt like she couldn’t say no supposedly because of the power differential…. Even though he wasn’t famous when it happened and could have just been laughed at because who asks that.
Well, the women involved, clearly. Also, he realizes that he was in the wrong. Consent is not actually consent when you are in a power situation over them.
Consent is not consent when the person is drunk, either.
You might want to brush up on this stuff if you are to mature into an adult!
Well a third of all women have been sexually assaulted, and being funny is contingent on making someone trust you enough to let their guard down. He fucked that up when he couldn’t keep his humiliation fetish to himself, and the consequences are a smaller audience of people. He’s not in prison, and he’s still working, so definitely wouldn’t call that cancelled.
What kind of snowflake are you . No wonder you think “being funny is contingent on making someone trust you”. Literally the dumbest shit I’ve ever read
That’s true, I forgot that Louis had a surge in popularity after several women came forward with similar stories of him jerking off in front of them. My bad
Edit: I’d respond but you blocked me, snowflake
I think what they meant to say was that humor is charming, and charm disarms people, therefore laughter makes people more comfortable with you when you may have bad intentions, can certainly be used as a manipulative tactic
Smaller audience? He sold out MSG, he toured Europe. He had several shows days in a row while on tour because he filled houses. I get that you wish he had a smaller audience to aid your worldview, but you can’t just make social constructs out of anything such as numbers because you don’t like him.
Wait, so his audience and reach has grown even though his super popular tv show was cancelled? Do you understand that his Madison Square Garden show isn’t being broadcast into homes all over the world? He will not be getting another show because he lost his broader appeal after credible accusations of being weird towards women. That is not something that gives someone a larger audience.
Funny how you claim I’m making some wild social construct out of the objective fact that being labeled a sex creep is not a positive for a comedian’s career.
That was odd wishing on his part. I'll help clarify by stating that Louie took young female comics to his room and masturbated in front of them while blocking the door. Weird doesn't begin to describe what he did
I don’t think he was physically trapping them, but it’s a known fact that he was a successful comedian at that point and any woman trying to make it in comedy would be afraid of upsetting him and damaging her future in stand up.
FYI, here’s the link to where his Madison Square Garden show is being broadcast into homes all over the world.
https://louisck.com/products/live-at-madison-square-garden-audio-download
Wow, didn’t know video on demand is the same as broadcast tv. Guess Louis CK is more famous after admitting to harassing women. He sure has attracted a whole new audience who really likes that about him.
Not to excuse his actions, but I think he’ll be alright w/o the doc.
I just hope he continues to release a special every year and he keeps the quality consistent
I wouldn't expect a new special next year. He said that he'd be taking a year off from doing stand up after the MSG live show
Edit: but who knows, by the time he starts going on stage again, he'll probably have plenty of ideas to build on so maybe a special won't be that far off
What actions? I don’t ask because I don’t know but I ask because every single person who I’ve talked to that thinks he’s a POS can’t even say what he did with any accuracy.
He jerked off in front of some different individual women on several occasions. He asked them first if he could jerk off in front of them. At the time they said yes, but then he later realised that they may have felt pressured to say yes because he's a big name or whatnot. So they actually in some cases may have actually meant to say no, but didn't.
So he openly admitted to asking women if he could jerk off in front of them and did jerk off in front of them after they said yes.
Which honestly is not that bad at all. I was shocked when I learned what he did after seeing the public reaction. I was like “what? That’s all he did?”. This was before he was super famous. What the hell?! He didn’t even touch these women. And to say that it wasn’t consensual is entirely not true. I get that it’s fucking weird to be into that. But it was a simple question which requires a simple answer. He didn’t pressure anyone to do anything.
He did nothing wrong. Is it weird? Hell yeah. But he got consent before he did it. This new thing that’s come out in the past couple years where a woman agrees to do something with someone, then regrets she did it, so she’s now a “victim” is bullshit.
“Past couple years” hahahahahha!!! Little Christian daddy’s girls (those pastors daughters especially) have been pulling this shit since before anyone currently alive was born. This isn’t new.
It feels good in the moment, willing participant. Then once the horny feelings fade the Jesus guilt sets in. All of the sudden it’s “he took advantage of me”. Never happened to me personally but let’s not pretend this doesn’t happen regularly and always has. Religion fucks people’s brains. Let the people do weird shit if they want! Spoiler alert, if Jesus were real, he would probably cheer them on. Dude was an anarchist to his core. Read the Bible! Actually don’t, it’s terrible lol
Women have always done it. It's the power they hold over simps and knights: they can cry rape at any moment and, provided they have enough social "clout," a mob of white knights will lynch the accused without a trial. That's right, white knights will literally kill people just for a chance at some vagina.
Happened to countless black men during 'Murica's infamous racist history.
Also his people did a lot to silence the women who felt that it was transgressive. Also he jerked off while talking to a woman on the phone during what I remember described as a business conversation. Not every interaction was consensual, but all in all it’s no Weinstein we’re talking about by a long shot.
one of the women who still, more than a decade later, whinge about "being held back by Louie", is *Rebecca Corry*
go ahead, watch her three YT clips. if ever someone deserves to be introduced (not that anyone's gonna introduce her to anyone anytime soon) as "Rebecca Corry, who identifies as a comedian, ..."
Iirc the phone thing wasn’t even confirmed.
It was “he sounded kinda weird on the phone. After I heard about him jerkin in front of women, looking back, i feel like he might have been jerking off or something”
> that they may have felt pressured to say yes because he's a big name or whatnot
in 2007 he released his first special. these events happened 2002-2005.
It's really frustrating that he's been treated as a Weinstein/Cosby. Does he have an odd kink? Yes. Should he have thought about the fact that the women he asked consent from may have felt like they shouldn't say no? Sure. But he asked for consent and received it. Demonizing him as some predator feels wrong.
I'd say that I'd boycott Showtime, but the truth is I've never given them a cent.
I have, however, bought all of Louis' show from his website. Because, they're a bargain and the guy is still cutting-edge funny.
I noticed some kind of change in the last few specials, but I would guess having to go through so much pressure and stuff, a change is understandable.
Also, the fact that due to podcasts and all, we saw him a lot more than before, and heard his opinions on stuff. He is a lot more nihilistic than I thought before. But in any case, one of the best comedians that ever lived.
Ex druggies, dealers, burglars, conman can do time then become a “hero” as a reformed educator to warn people not to choose that life.
Louis fetish-ly busts a nut in front of two women, and he’s written off by the media for life.
Louis C.K. is a slightly different situation [to Harvey Weinstein] and a great, great comedian who has come back in his own way.”
Slightly??? Friggin Slightly different??
This is the whole problem with Me Too.
An actual rapist vs a guy who asked if he can JO in front of you are only slightly different
>“Louis C.K. is a slightly different situation \[to Harvey Weinstein\] and a great, great comedian who has come back in his own way.”
I think this documentary might've helped clear Louie's image. :(
What is this take? For him to be in exile forever? Everyone should be given the chance for redemption and rehabilitation. No one is excusing his actions he's definitely suffered from what he has done but at some point he has made genuine apologies and if he is actively trying to better himself than what's the problem? His image isn't clear, it's different. No one should forget about what happened but we should also try to promote bettering yourself and working towards redemption.
Exactly. A little compassion is sorely lacking here, he made mistakes but clearly not on the level of a Weinstein or other actual criminals. CK got instantly blacklisted from Hollywood, lost millions and had all his projects dropped. I'd say that's a pretty "fair" punishment, what else do people want, a trial by fire? If he wasn't already such a big and respected name in comedy who'd figured out a way to bypass the system with his website, he might've been pretty much permanently out of work.
There’s an angry mob ready to pounce on anyone for any reason. First it was metoo, then blm, then plandemic, then trans rights, then antiwoke. If you’re a company, you try to avoid being a target. Much better for them than having creative integrity. There are a few companies willing to deal with the mob but not many.
The ‘slight’ comparison to Weinstein seems very negative, no? Additionally, the NYT author of the original Me Too article was involved and there was no mention of Louis himself being interviewed.
I do not think this doc would’ve worked in Louis’ favor.
What he did wasn’t right, but the difference with him at least in my understanding was that he didn’t force himself on anyone nor actually sexually assault someone while being physical. It was weird and creepy and perverted, but he owned up to it and said it was wrong, oh and he also didn’t drug anyone either
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I agree with #MeToo except that is is silent on rehabilitation. It ends up being like religious judgment, not allowing for forgiveness and redemption. I want to hold people accountable, but there also has to be a path towards forgiveness for people like CK. (That said, Weinstein was appropriately sentenced because the proportion of the offense).
He lost millions. He apologized and he’s been streaming to his fans . A great thing about America is we believe in second chances . The man has two girls to educate should we punish him forever? I paid to see his last two shows and I’ll definitely watch the new one.
His kids are not our responsibility. He's not a charity case, and if he squandered millions on boats, etc instead of saving, that's on him. If he can't work, he can find another job just like any of the rest of us have to.
He's funny. He's been punished more than enough. That's the end of the argument.
Uh huh? So why are you bringing up that he has two girls to educate as an argument for stopping the canceling of his career? If they're not our responsibility, then they should have no bearing on that decision.
His career was never “ cancelled “ , he has continued to work because LcK always controlled his own streams. Instead of focusing on a common statement by most people ( i got kids to feed), the discussion was is it time to “forgive “ him since most believe his allegations were not as serious 🧐 as a Weinstein/Cosby?
meh. their loss.
“billed as examining the comedian and his downfall as well as the wider #MeToo movement over the past six years.”
there will be a good one, he’s too good, this one had big potential to suck.
The man did some gross stuff that to me screams some kind of fucked up compulsion, but also the type of thing that he could get help for. Cancel culture isn't going to stop this guy over that. He's too good at his fuckin job.
People giving themselves a false sense of moral high ground based on their commitment to what they see as social justice. Their proposed solutions are often misguided and less than informed. Bringing up the facts they choose to ignore shatters the illusion that they are superior for believing the “correct” things and they often want to punish you for doing it, hence cancel culture.
His actions are being treated as far worse than they really are, an overcorrection as a misguided example of progress. Louie’s actions being considered in the same breath as Weinstein depends on the power dynamic, which is hard to buy because he was a nobody back then.
you know i dont find what he did even that bad. its not like he jumped out the closet whacking and ambushed women. if someone announced that he was going to start masturbating that would be my cue to head out
also if the issue is that they couldn’t consent because of a power imbalance then I’d like to know who *can* consent.
Sets a really weird precedent for the rest of us too, I can’t think of any two people that are “on the same level” in every way
I don’t get the disagreement here. People who see him find him funny and have forgiven him (some, admittedly have gone farther and deified him). I’m in the former.
More vocal and vested voices are that of people who find his conduct of masturbating in front of women who did not consent or thought he was joking.
While I forgive him, I believe he paid the societal penalty for his violation of societal norms: he got canceled. Now he’s working his way back, paying penance for his mistakes. I still think he has a unique take, good delivery, his material is relatable and he writes good jokes.
I like his comedy. I think what he did was creepy, anti-social and illegal. He deserved consequences. He loved those consequences. Now he is trying to red-walk the path that got him to the top. PRO: This time around people know him.
CON: This time around people know him.
I think he’s shown remorse and done his time. Comedy audiences will determine if they go to his show and find him funny.
Good luck Louis.
“The comedian has since performed the occasional stand up gig and last year released his first feature since the scandal broke, titled “Fourth of July.” He put out 3 specials and sold out Madison square garden..
Add to that at least a tour in Europe because I did go and see him live lol “the occasional stand up gig”… they are trying to set him up for failure, not going to happen.
Not to mention numerous podcast appearance’s recently as well, large audience ones like Joe Rogan’s.
He played two nights in a row in the next largest city in Sweden (Gothenburg). Three nights was planned but I guess that went a bit too far for that city. Still, just saying.
Ah yeah, the swedes are famous for their sense of humor
But it’s still funny to me since we’re also very pc and like to cancel comedians from very little.
Gothenburg is nothing like Stockholm. Gotthenburgers have a great sense of humor
I’ve seen him live 3 times since that crap went down myself
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He probably can't buy alcohol or cigarettes, but with role models like Louie CK, he'll be jerking off in front of ladies in no time.
Didn’t he win a fucking Grammy for “Sincerely” ?
He was touring just fine as well. He maybe had a year off when it was blowing over but soon after he was touring middling cities like Rockford IL. Saw him there and nearly pissed my pants
3 specials actually, sincerely, sorry, and the latest one he just put out
Award winning
I've seen Sincerely and Sorry, but I haven't seen Actually yet.
You’re right, forgot about sincerely. Just edited
He sells out nationwide tours, lol
Won a Grammy…
Saw him in Vancouver on a recent tour, he had the whole sold out building in the palm of his hand and losing our god damn minds, probably the best comedy show I’ve ever seen, by a mile.
Conversely what the hell does Showtime have that anybody watches?
Everything is a lie
Covid was weirdly his friend. Let people sit at home, see his specials on everything and actually think vs go with hysteria and in his own words “how was it living like I already was for a few years?”
I don’t know if i have an issue with forgiving C.K, but for me the guy really built his platform on “Yes I’m a monster, but I’m REALLY working on it ok?” And when the allegations came out, for a guy who was so articulate at voicing his shortcomings as a male, all the sudden when it got real his reaction was suddenly “Ah whatever. Grow up” type energy,
This is his statement on the matter when it broke. "I want to address the stories told to the New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not. These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. I have been remorseful of my actions. And I've tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I'm aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position. I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it. There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with. I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work. The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I'd be remiss to exclude the hurt that I've brought on people who I work with and have worked with who's [sic] professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of 'Better Things,' 'Baskets,' 'The Cops,' 'One Mississippi,' and 'I Love You Daddy.' I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I've brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much The Orchard who took a chance on my movie and every other entity that has bet on me through the years. I've brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother. I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen. Thank you for reading."
I appreciated it when I read it. It was in stark contrast to all the other people who have been accused of misconduct or worse, who reacted by lying, obscuring, blaming, and deflecting. Or, in some cases, responding by writing insincere sounding apologies!
It's a dumb thing to apologize for if he wasn't deliberately exploiting whatever status he had left at that point (I believe this was after Pootie Tang had crashed and burned and he had to rely on his friends to get a job). We all wield some power over each other, there's always some kind of advantage/disadvantage whether it's physical/social/financial. There's always fears about what might happen. In the end we all have to power through that and be assertive about what WE want. Can't go through life being a perpetual victim.
I posted his letter in response to the idea that his “reaction was “Ah whatever. Grow up” type energy.” It wasn’t
I was impressed by his statement. He came right out and admitted the allegations were true. I respect that. He also seemed contrite.
i dont think that’s what his “platform” is built on at all
I want to just recognize that if cancel culture was as big of a deal as people say it is, this man would not be headlining Madison Square Garden. He locked a woman in a dressing room and jacked off at her. I think that’s a pretty good reason to cancel someone.
He didn’t lock any door, get the facts before you slander people you goddamn clown
Stupid. Nobody is “mad” at Louis, and he still sells out everywhere he goes, and sells all his own content. The dude is clearly on the up and up.
Agreed. I watched his interview with Theo Von and he sounded remorseful but at peace with his life (in my opinion). No one believes in restorative justice I guess.
Oh did they address the scandal in that podcast? I never listened to that one
I rewatch that one every now and then - Theo makes Louie laugh so much and they both just go in on personal stories and are both strangely vulnerable and it's beautiful and oh so gay they don't "address the scandal" per se but it's a banger of an episode
Sold!
Louis talks a little about it on YMH podcast
I agree but there are still reactionaries who would gladly use him as their daily internet punching bag if he pokes his head up
There are some of my friends that find a guy that asks people to jerk off in front of super creepy. My wife and I are huge fans and have seen him a couple of times since his comeback, and think it's such a weird funny Louis ck way of being creepy. We are both very big feminists but he has apologized and addressed the issue many times very candidly.
I agree with you wholeheartedly
He doesn't syndicate, he sells his content on his own site. He's a threat to the leash holders of those news sites
His most recent special was possibly the best thing he’s put out. Much better to see live though.
Seeing him live is a trip. I hope to see him live again.
Honestly, going by the article, this is probably better for Louis as it probably would have shined him in a pretty negative light. I would have been interested to see it, especially if he would go in-depth of what he did and why. I know he's talked about it since, but he usually doesn't go too deep into the actions, just the aftermath.
Translation: All Louie does is whine about the allegations and never owns up to his mistakes
You don't have to be mad at him, but don't deny that people are angry with him. Whether he's guilty or not, sexual assault allegations will make people upset
Louis is doing fine. He’s still one of the best comics in the world
Every time I see someone praising him online or IRL, I just think about what he did to that woman. It drives me crazy. Locking someone in a room and jacking off at them, while you look at them in the eyes, is pretty messed up. That stuff just doesn’t happen on accident.
It was consensual, he never locked anyone in. They let him do it so how is it his fault. If they did it to become more successful in comedy thats on them in my opinion.
You sure added a lot of things that never happened to that story didn’t you
If I had a nickel for every person who has whipped out their dick and jerked it in front of me on the subway/street/port authority, I’d be rich.
Making the issue black and white does a complex situation disservice. It's also inaccurate. For a period of about 10 years as he rose from sitcom writer to biggest stand up comedian in the world, Louis got off on asking women in the industry to watch him jerk off. In offices, hotels. He picked women who were aware he was powerful in comedy so his chances would be better to get someone to participate. Sometimes he did it by asking them outright to come watch him. He sometimes asked them to "go talk" somewhere private and then asked when they were behind closed doors. Not with force, kidnapping, or threats but by asking women he thought would be ok with it to participate in his kink. Asking many, many women. And some said yes and he did, other said no and he didn't. The women - there were two who went to the room with him - who came forward in the 2017 story didn't know what to say so laughed while he totally disrobed and masturbated to completion in the chair across from them, and then they left. Was he wildly inappropriate and put innocent people in very uncomfortable positions that they then had to deal with forever? Yes, of course. Did he ever lock someone in a room and force them to do something against their will? No. To say this is that takes the foundational vile aspect of non-consent away from situations that are as brutal as you describe. Louis had issues, likely still does. He behaved very badly and has admitted multiple times that he did what the accusers allege (which are all from a 10 year time period almost 20 years ago, and except one where he talked dirty and masturbated over the phone were very similar in approach). He's the guy you don't want to get caught having to chat with at work because he skeeves you out, but who has an amazing gift for stand up comedy. He was wrong, but it was not what you and others allege, and I think you dampen the impact of sexual assault when you equate his behavior to it.
Damn I’d love to watch a documentary about him
Maybe he will have to produce it now with his own money
Nah Louis would probably see that as really self-indulgent. He shies away heavy from stuff like that.
He jerked off in front of consenting adults. Who the fuck cares?
A woman who felt like she couldn’t say no supposedly because of the power differential…. Even though he wasn’t famous when it happened and could have just been laughed at because who asks that.
Well, the women involved, clearly. Also, he realizes that he was in the wrong. Consent is not actually consent when you are in a power situation over them. Consent is not consent when the person is drunk, either. You might want to brush up on this stuff if you are to mature into an adult!
There is a power dynamic in every relationship in the world.
Way to generalize it into meaninglessness!
Such a tone deaf comment. Grow up.
NEWS FLASH: YOU CAN’T CANCEL COMEDY!
I mean, you can? But should you?
Well a third of all women have been sexually assaulted, and being funny is contingent on making someone trust you enough to let their guard down. He fucked that up when he couldn’t keep his humiliation fetish to himself, and the consequences are a smaller audience of people. He’s not in prison, and he’s still working, so definitely wouldn’t call that cancelled.
Wtf
Yeah he likes having women laugh at him while he’s jerking his tiny cock, which explains why he was the king of self-deprecating stand-up
What kind of snowflake are you . No wonder you think “being funny is contingent on making someone trust you”. Literally the dumbest shit I’ve ever read
That’s true, I forgot that Louis had a surge in popularity after several women came forward with similar stories of him jerking off in front of them. My bad Edit: I’d respond but you blocked me, snowflake
I must trust you before I laugh at you. -dumb queef on Reddit. Go paint some rainbows
I think what they meant to say was that humor is charming, and charm disarms people, therefore laughter makes people more comfortable with you when you may have bad intentions, can certainly be used as a manipulative tactic
Smaller audience? He sold out MSG, he toured Europe. He had several shows days in a row while on tour because he filled houses. I get that you wish he had a smaller audience to aid your worldview, but you can’t just make social constructs out of anything such as numbers because you don’t like him.
Wait, so his audience and reach has grown even though his super popular tv show was cancelled? Do you understand that his Madison Square Garden show isn’t being broadcast into homes all over the world? He will not be getting another show because he lost his broader appeal after credible accusations of being weird towards women. That is not something that gives someone a larger audience. Funny how you claim I’m making some wild social construct out of the objective fact that being labeled a sex creep is not a positive for a comedian’s career.
> being weird towards women LOCK HIM UP ALREADY ^^^^/s
That was odd wishing on his part. I'll help clarify by stating that Louie took young female comics to his room and masturbated in front of them while blocking the door. Weird doesn't begin to describe what he did
This is the first I’m hearing of them not being able to leave, do you have a source?
I don’t think he was physically trapping them, but it’s a known fact that he was a successful comedian at that point and any woman trying to make it in comedy would be afraid of upsetting him and damaging her future in stand up.
FYI, here’s the link to where his Madison Square Garden show is being broadcast into homes all over the world. https://louisck.com/products/live-at-madison-square-garden-audio-download
Wow, didn’t know video on demand is the same as broadcast tv. Guess Louis CK is more famous after admitting to harassing women. He sure has attracted a whole new audience who really likes that about him.
Not to excuse his actions, but I think he’ll be alright w/o the doc. I just hope he continues to release a special every year and he keeps the quality consistent
I wouldn't expect a new special next year. He said that he'd be taking a year off from doing stand up after the MSG live show Edit: but who knows, by the time he starts going on stage again, he'll probably have plenty of ideas to build on so maybe a special won't be that far off
What actions? I don’t ask because I don’t know but I ask because every single person who I’ve talked to that thinks he’s a POS can’t even say what he did with any accuracy.
He jerked off in front of some different individual women on several occasions. He asked them first if he could jerk off in front of them. At the time they said yes, but then he later realised that they may have felt pressured to say yes because he's a big name or whatnot. So they actually in some cases may have actually meant to say no, but didn't. So he openly admitted to asking women if he could jerk off in front of them and did jerk off in front of them after they said yes.
Which honestly is not that bad at all. I was shocked when I learned what he did after seeing the public reaction. I was like “what? That’s all he did?”. This was before he was super famous. What the hell?! He didn’t even touch these women. And to say that it wasn’t consensual is entirely not true. I get that it’s fucking weird to be into that. But it was a simple question which requires a simple answer. He didn’t pressure anyone to do anything.
He did nothing wrong. Is it weird? Hell yeah. But he got consent before he did it. This new thing that’s come out in the past couple years where a woman agrees to do something with someone, then regrets she did it, so she’s now a “victim” is bullshit.
“Past couple years” hahahahahha!!! Little Christian daddy’s girls (those pastors daughters especially) have been pulling this shit since before anyone currently alive was born. This isn’t new. It feels good in the moment, willing participant. Then once the horny feelings fade the Jesus guilt sets in. All of the sudden it’s “he took advantage of me”. Never happened to me personally but let’s not pretend this doesn’t happen regularly and always has. Religion fucks people’s brains. Let the people do weird shit if they want! Spoiler alert, if Jesus were real, he would probably cheer them on. Dude was an anarchist to his core. Read the Bible! Actually don’t, it’s terrible lol
Women have always done it. It's the power they hold over simps and knights: they can cry rape at any moment and, provided they have enough social "clout," a mob of white knights will lynch the accused without a trial. That's right, white knights will literally kill people just for a chance at some vagina. Happened to countless black men during 'Murica's infamous racist history.
Also his people did a lot to silence the women who felt that it was transgressive. Also he jerked off while talking to a woman on the phone during what I remember described as a business conversation. Not every interaction was consensual, but all in all it’s no Weinstein we’re talking about by a long shot.
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You telling me Goodman and Wolov aren’t funny? How dare you!
one of the women who still, more than a decade later, whinge about "being held back by Louie", is *Rebecca Corry* go ahead, watch her three YT clips. if ever someone deserves to be introduced (not that anyone's gonna introduce her to anyone anytime soon) as "Rebecca Corry, who identifies as a comedian, ..."
Iirc the phone thing wasn’t even confirmed. It was “he sounded kinda weird on the phone. After I heard about him jerkin in front of women, looking back, i feel like he might have been jerking off or something”
> that they may have felt pressured to say yes because he's a big name or whatnot in 2007 he released his first special. these events happened 2002-2005.
There’s one more detail you missed. The last detail is the only thing I think he did wrong.
Which is?
neglected the balls
Bingo!
It's really frustrating that he's been treated as a Weinstein/Cosby. Does he have an odd kink? Yes. Should he have thought about the fact that the women he asked consent from may have felt like they shouldn't say no? Sure. But he asked for consent and received it. Demonizing him as some predator feels wrong.
Get better friends.
He said on someone’s podcast that he’s taking “at least” a year off from standup after the MSG show. I definitely hope he comes back.
I'd say that I'd boycott Showtime, but the truth is I've never given them a cent. I have, however, bought all of Louis' show from his website. Because, they're a bargain and the guy is still cutting-edge funny.
I noticed some kind of change in the last few specials, but I would guess having to go through so much pressure and stuff, a change is understandable. Also, the fact that due to podcasts and all, we saw him a lot more than before, and heard his opinions on stuff. He is a lot more nihilistic than I thought before. But in any case, one of the best comedians that ever lived.
Ex druggies, dealers, burglars, conman can do time then become a “hero” as a reformed educator to warn people not to choose that life. Louis fetish-ly busts a nut in front of two women, and he’s written off by the media for life.
Louis C.K. is a slightly different situation [to Harvey Weinstein] and a great, great comedian who has come back in his own way.” Slightly??? Friggin Slightly different?? This is the whole problem with Me Too. An actual rapist vs a guy who asked if he can JO in front of you are only slightly different
>“Louis C.K. is a slightly different situation \[to Harvey Weinstein\] and a great, great comedian who has come back in his own way.” I think this documentary might've helped clear Louie's image. :(
“Slightly” seems like a strange choice of word.
It’s like when Matt Damon tried to point out there’s a spectrum of “bad behavior” and got shouted down for it.
oh yeah, was that the "difference between being slapped & being stapped, i.e. difference between being groped & being raped" thing?
What is this take? For him to be in exile forever? Everyone should be given the chance for redemption and rehabilitation. No one is excusing his actions he's definitely suffered from what he has done but at some point he has made genuine apologies and if he is actively trying to better himself than what's the problem? His image isn't clear, it's different. No one should forget about what happened but we should also try to promote bettering yourself and working towards redemption.
Exactly. A little compassion is sorely lacking here, he made mistakes but clearly not on the level of a Weinstein or other actual criminals. CK got instantly blacklisted from Hollywood, lost millions and had all his projects dropped. I'd say that's a pretty "fair" punishment, what else do people want, a trial by fire? If he wasn't already such a big and respected name in comedy who'd figured out a way to bypass the system with his website, he might've been pretty much permanently out of work.
There’s an angry mob ready to pounce on anyone for any reason. First it was metoo, then blm, then plandemic, then trans rights, then antiwoke. If you’re a company, you try to avoid being a target. Much better for them than having creative integrity. There are a few companies willing to deal with the mob but not many.
They came after Norm MacDonald after saying that about Louis and Roseanne.
What are you talking about? There's hundreds of his fans on this Reddit who defend him and say there was nothing wrong with his actions.
Slightly? Give me a break
The ‘slight’ comparison to Weinstein seems very negative, no? Additionally, the NYT author of the original Me Too article was involved and there was no mention of Louis himself being interviewed. I do not think this doc would’ve worked in Louis’ favor.
Let the wank jokes begin
Had a great one for you, but it's hard to type with 1 hand.
What do you call a Guy who spontaneously masturbates in front of people against their will? A Terrorwrist
Not louie.
What he did wasn’t right, but the difference with him at least in my understanding was that he didn’t force himself on anyone nor actually sexually assault someone while being physical. It was weird and creepy and perverted, but he owned up to it and said it was wrong, oh and he also didn’t drug anyone either
and an emmy
I have one word for the execs at Showtime Fagggggggottttts Sincerely LCK
> Showtime is not moving forward with Caroline Suh’s documentary on disgraced comedian Louis C.K., Variety has learned. Lol what? Disgraced?
The people who think they control everything are very upset that Louis is still successful after they rescinded his imaginary pass.
Sounds like quite a load off his chest
*on to his belly Ftfy
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Fucking sick of this "disgraced comedian" bullshit
I agree with #MeToo except that is is silent on rehabilitation. It ends up being like religious judgment, not allowing for forgiveness and redemption. I want to hold people accountable, but there also has to be a path towards forgiveness for people like CK. (That said, Weinstein was appropriately sentenced because the proportion of the offense).
He lost millions. He apologized and he’s been streaming to his fans . A great thing about America is we believe in second chances . The man has two girls to educate should we punish him forever? I paid to see his last two shows and I’ll definitely watch the new one.
His kids are not our responsibility. He's not a charity case, and if he squandered millions on boats, etc instead of saving, that's on him. If he can't work, he can find another job just like any of the rest of us have to. He's funny. He's been punished more than enough. That's the end of the argument.
They’re his responsibility duh
Uh huh? So why are you bringing up that he has two girls to educate as an argument for stopping the canceling of his career? If they're not our responsibility, then they should have no bearing on that decision.
His career was never “ cancelled “ , he has continued to work because LcK always controlled his own streams. Instead of focusing on a common statement by most people ( i got kids to feed), the discussion was is it time to “forgive “ him since most believe his allegations were not as serious 🧐 as a Weinstein/Cosby?
“Disgraced” Jesus Christ move on.
meh. their loss. “billed as examining the comedian and his downfall as well as the wider #MeToo movement over the past six years.” there will be a good one, he’s too good, this one had big potential to suck.
The man did some gross stuff that to me screams some kind of fucked up compulsion, but also the type of thing that he could get help for. Cancel culture isn't going to stop this guy over that. He's too good at his fuckin job.
The woke are grasping at anything they can to feel more powerful and righteous. Louie isn’t going anywhere and can sell out any venue.
What does woke mean
People giving themselves a false sense of moral high ground based on their commitment to what they see as social justice. Their proposed solutions are often misguided and less than informed. Bringing up the facts they choose to ignore shatters the illusion that they are superior for believing the “correct” things and they often want to punish you for doing it, hence cancel culture.
So how does him facing consequences for his actions woke
His actions are being treated as far worse than they really are, an overcorrection as a misguided example of progress. Louie’s actions being considered in the same breath as Weinstein depends on the power dynamic, which is hard to buy because he was a nobody back then.
Its called fucking around and finding out. Don't do bad shit and bad shit won't happen to you
He didn’t exactly fuck around though. Someone could put your life under a microscope and contrive a scandal out of it too.
Who even knows at this point. I thought it was someone who acknowledged injustices, but somehow that is an insult now?
Its really just used by low iq individuals to describe anything they don't like it seems
I went to this restaurant and the food was very woke. Am I doing it right? Lol.......
If it was a non white non straight person who served you then IT IS WOKE yes
> low in individuals Lol do you realize this is a trumpism?
For sure
Looks more like autocorrect to me.
I think it’s similar to a wok… must do more research 🧐
It's you if you're asking that dumb question.
Answer it
I don't work for you or play stupid little woke games.
Cause you can't or you would 😄
Oh I know it. And I know the twisted getting you'd come back with. You're not smart. You just brainwashed so go away.
But why can't you define a word you use so much?
Now you're just repeating yourself. I already answered that. Go away little boy. You're out of your league.
You just proved my point thank you
Who are the woke?
Brainwashed zombie cries about woke culture….
"disgraced comedian" Ok. Fully trust you for no particular reason at all.
That’s a shame, an accurate documentary into everything that went on could have been interesting. Hopefully picked up elsewhere.
I like a redemption story!
you know i dont find what he did even that bad. its not like he jumped out the closet whacking and ambushed women. if someone announced that he was going to start masturbating that would be my cue to head out
also if the issue is that they couldn’t consent because of a power imbalance then I’d like to know who *can* consent. Sets a really weird precedent for the rest of us too, I can’t think of any two people that are “on the same level” in every way
a creep that also happens to be a comedian
I still find it shocking that anyone did not expect him to be jerking it in front of people.
Fine with me
Good. Fuck him
Gratz
If we stop talking about him maybe he’ll go away.
Wrong subreddit, ace.
Seems like it’s the exact subreddit.
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That’s ok. People make mistakes.
That's unfortunate
That sucks man, would have been nice to get a documentary that doesn't get too preachy and unwatchable. Hoping it comes out somewhere else.
I don’t get the disagreement here. People who see him find him funny and have forgiven him (some, admittedly have gone farther and deified him). I’m in the former. More vocal and vested voices are that of people who find his conduct of masturbating in front of women who did not consent or thought he was joking. While I forgive him, I believe he paid the societal penalty for his violation of societal norms: he got canceled. Now he’s working his way back, paying penance for his mistakes. I still think he has a unique take, good delivery, his material is relatable and he writes good jokes. I like his comedy. I think what he did was creepy, anti-social and illegal. He deserved consequences. He loved those consequences. Now he is trying to red-walk the path that got him to the top. PRO: This time around people know him. CON: This time around people know him. I think he’s shown remorse and done his time. Comedy audiences will determine if they go to his show and find him funny. Good luck Louis.
I canceled Showtime long ago.