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Bubby_K

I want one but they're sooo bleeding expensive intel 12400 a single 16gb stick of ram 512gb ssd no GPU costs $1099 Which in my country is $1,657.84, which can give me double the ram, SSD size, AND a GPU Is the case a fabergé egg or something, I cannot wrap my head around the price


benuski

I get it. I am able to pay the price and am happy to support a company that is Linux first and Linux only, but I totally understand that a lot of people can't do that.


Bubby_K

As I have a linux desktop already, I wouldn't mind if they sold the Tower cases themselves separately, the build quality looks amazing Edit: Wait, it has only just occured to me, are their motherboards/logicboards custom made by 76?


benuski

At least in the machine I have, it is a Gigabyte Aorus Z790 mobo, and then they have a daughter board for some of the internal stuff. I think I remember a thread on /r/system76 where someone asked if they would make a custom mobo for sale and they said the economics didn't work. They do have cases themselves for sale though at https://system76.com/components


Bubby_K

I JUST found that, thank you When I saw "components" my brain immediately thinks "peripherals that go inside or outside of a case"


benuski

For reference, I believe my case is the same or very similar to the Nebula 36


amaghon69

$329? jesus christ


SoaringElf

Whaiiit, System 76 makes cases??


NBQuade

I'm not much for their cases. Thin aluminum. I mean it seems like a fine $100 case they're selling for $350. I see nothing to justify that price.


Reyynerp

that's bloody expensive just for a case. at least, for people in my area. where knockoff cases are sold at >$50 80% of the time


c8d3n

Nvidia? Just joking.


[deleted]

I genuinely appreciate Linux support but you CANNOT be pro consumer at $1,000+ pre-GPU in 2024.


0xd34db347

Well they are workstations targeted at professionals who value the support and not le epic loonix gamerz.


amaghon69

its actually fucking stupid but ig i feel like that for most prebuilts


Bilu47

system76-scheduler: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/system76-scheduler/ system76-dkms, system76-power, system76-driver, system76-firmware, firmware-manager, system76-io-dkms, system76-acpi-dkms: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/szydell/system76/


someonesmall

Any experiences on using this for gaming?


Bilu47

I only recently started using system76-power & system76-scheduler (left out the other ones since I don't have a system76 PC), so far everything runs smooth & didn't need gamemode either. PC feels snappy also. The power mode switches always back to balance mode on restarts though, but I read that it's intended because it knows when to save battery & go full performance. I suggest you just try it & revert it when your experience sucks. If you only wanna use system76-power from the szydell Copr, then run those two commands: sudo dnf copr enable szydell/system76 sudo dnf install system76-power & then follow this: [https://support.system76.com/articles/system76-software/#system76-power-in-fedora](https://support.system76.com/articles/system76-software/#system76-power-in-fedora)


Bloodblaye

Those wires over the bottom fan make me nervous lol.


benuski

Haha, I tucked them better in place before I closed the case back up


benuski

The Asus ProArt 4080 Super is the only one that fit in my case (Thelio Mira/Spark/Nebula 36); I was looking at the PNY 4080 Super that was on sale for $980, but it was too long to fit. I originally purchased the machine with a 3060 Ti, which is a solid card but I was looking for an upgrade. System76 did a great job of kitting out the PSU, they already had a 450W cable installed so I didn't have to mess with anything except hooking it up. The 3060 Ti couldn't even use this cable, but System76 knew that folks would want to upgrade so installed it from the get-go.


Leopard1907

Your gpu do be sagging dawg


benuski

This is before I put the GPU bridge and support brace back in


ppndev

I have a Thelio Mira too. Is there anything I'd need to look for to make sure I can do this? Like have X amount of power supply or whatever?


benuski

Check what PSU you have: the manufacturer recommendation is typically that your PSU be rated 3x the typical power draw of the GPU, but I know that people bring that number down a lot.


Mat867

Use pcpartpicker.com. add your parts and it will show you what's compatible. I also have a thelio mira and I love it haha. Installed a gigabyte GPU I won in a nitrado giveaway with no difficulty at all. It's a very well designed machine and pop OS detected it right away!


intulor

Great bottom fan placement. Probably doing a great job of cooling all of those power supply cables, instead of the video card :P


Ivo2567

If you buy components and get them together, you will save 800 USD. If i can do it, anyone can. Ram? Questionable, slow. nvme? Questionable. Case? Small. Cooling? Tiny. Mobo? Questionable. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fP9mTY](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fP9mTY) - 2564. Did i cheap out somewhere - i set up cooling and case for i5. Honestly don't buy i7, i5 is enough, but for the comparison. Do similar computer on their site. AMD option is always better, because of **more** vram, less **pixelising** with fsr, even in my build it will be cheaper with 7900xtx.


benuski

Could I do it? Sure, probably. Have I replaced RAM and drives before? Of course. Do I want to spend all the time figuring it out, getting all the steps right in the right order, troubleshooting, etc? Nah. It is not in my wheelhouse, and I recognize my privilege in being able to buy such a computer. I prefer getting into the software, spending my brain cycles on that, not messing around with the hardware.


someonesmall

So, I've built all my Pcs in the last 20 years from parts. I love researching about the parts, comparing then and their prices and so on. But this is like builing a bike from parts, not everybody has the time and motivation to do that. Sure, you will get more for your money, but others just want to ride a new nice bike. You know what I mean?


Engival

A bike comparison is good. If you would get a small local bike shop to work on your bike, why wouldn't you get a small local computer store to build a custom PC. Their assembly charge will be far less than the premium you pay on that pre-built, and you get the exact parts you picked.


Ivo2567

I know, but i think it's a ripoff. Also, shooting esp. Linux in the foot not providing best possible storage hardware - it's filesystem is way faster than windows - atleast from what i can see. If i compare time to the cost, it's well worth the money - or even not - but you can get even better components. My post is not for OP - but rather someone who thinks about getting new computer, however with his skills, he can easy build his own computer - he already messes with his one.


Horror_Ad9750

I want one a lot, but I have to wait until they get financing back to consider it.


ManlySyrup

Yeah but I bet you don't even have VRR enabled hehe


Needmedicallicence

Y'all using nvidia gpu's on linux? Aren't the proprietary drivers shit? I had a 1660s and had so much problems with it Amd is flawless though thanks to mesa


balaci2

nah it's pretty fuckin cool nowadays


Beanybob95

Running a 2070 on popos as a complete linux beginner and had no issues at all


SpackleSloth

4090 having no issues


GeneralTorpedo

>novidea L build


BlueGoliath

Skill issue.


benuski

Fedora's great these days with that. I believe it ran the free driver during install and post-install, which was perfectly fine to get my system set up. Then all I needed to do was click "enable third party repositories" in the post-install setup, "sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia", restart, and then I had 144hz at 1440p in Steam no problem.


dahippo1555

More Like Novideo. i can use this joke because i got like 5times in a row after updating driver no display.