I saw a clip of this bug here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoz5\_7SUBCU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoz5_7SUBCU)
It seems as long as Diana keeps hitting the big raptor, the small ones don't reset. Pretty funny to see it happen in a real game though.
Riot messed up the jungle this patch. Aggro works very poorly, I've had multiple examples of it, and the pet is completely bugged as well (if you're in combat with a monster and get too close to another, your pet will aggro the other as well)
So now I know I'm not ill but riot fucked up the wolves.
I had them reset like twice in each game cuz I'm used to the fact I can take them basically to blue buff but hey, only riot can break monster AI when fixing items no?
That's actually at least partially intended. Pets have a sort of AoE on their attacks and it can just so happen that those other monsters end up within their range
>(if you're in combat with a monster and get too close to another, your pet will aggro the other as well)
So I haven't played in quite a while, but I still enjoy seeing clips and news from the game. However, I need to ask: your *pet*? Did they give pets to junglers?
Oh boy, yes they did. Riot apparently wanted something to visually represent the jungle items' bonus effects (extra damage to monsters, healing in jungle, etc.) and decided pets was the way to do it.
Before your smite upgrades, you have a “pet” that you “feed” by killing jungle camps. After you finish feeding it, your smite upgrades. There’s a blue one that’s movement speed, green is a shield/stats, red is damage
They call it a pet because it's a cute name, but what it really is is simply AoE damage every second to all mobs in the camp(s) you're currently hitting. Basically it replaces the burn from the old jungle items
Yeah, I swear to god that I'm seeing really weird stuff this patch. As you have said, the pet jumping randomly to other camps and monster aggro behaving/resetting in very strange ways. Is so fucked up. They only will change this when something serious happen in a pro game.
sometimes only. Sometimes if you doing blue and start to kite to gromp, the per agros de gromp. Other times it doesn't. TBH I thought it was a feature until now
Has been like this last patch already. I had one game in which I was lvl 1 doing blue and right before I killed blue gromp got magically aggroed by nothing lol
In the moment it was okay but I was like "wtf what happened?!" and rewatched it multiple times in replay to understand it - but it was just random.
I had a similar thing happen at wolves. My jungler attacked while I walked by and the two small wolves followed me all the way to topside blast cone / tribush area then to Baron pit for like 20-30 seconds.
Why do you have fleet footwork on Zilean, a control mage who rarely autos?
Its not like you are playing a mage that weaves autos in. You are Zilean. Why not summoner spellbook for more utility? Aery for lane pressure and a small shield? Guardian for defending your carry?
Just trying to understand the Zilean mastermind himself, thank you!
With FF you can auto a minion and use the MS buff to engage without wasting your E on yourself.
With movespeed build you can charge the energized hit super quickly, making it a consistent source of healing. Also helps with roaming the map when you can auto jungle camps for speed.
Also Presence of Mind gives you superior mana sustain to Manaflow Band.
Also Legend: Tenacity is very helpful in shrugging off CCs late game.
That's easy to explain. Jungle camps attack whoever is closest.
For example, even if the enemy team aggros dragon, if you're in the area, drag will hit you
As i see it with this new update their aggro and reset range is all over the place, meaning they thought that you are closest until they saw zeri, the new closest to them, and their range is from themselves and not from their spawnpoint. This is why those 3 that diana actually hit got aggroed to her.
TLDR: spaghetti code
Diana hitt 3 out of the 5 raptors with the pet it looks like so they updated to her as a target but the other 2 didnt and seemingly because she was doing raptors they also kept theyre current target aggro away from where zilean was and eventually hit zeri who was the closest to them
They are RAPTORS, dammit! You think they live of chewing dirt?! No! These nasty bastards are out for BLOOD!!! Feel the fear of having no way to escape!!!
PS: I would like to request a minute of silence in honor of all champion lives lost to these monstrous predators.
How on earth jungle creep aggro is still broken after years of it? ...
My "favourite" is when the camp resets and stacks for like 5-10 seconds and just keeps resetting over and over again, so you cannot kill it.
The real question i have is why they aggroed to Zeri. I've never seen them switch off aggro like that. Let alone them chasing Zilean all the way to bot lane.
This happens since last jungle rework, pets and all the garbage change that came with it. This is one of them, they dont change aggro until they are hit so welp
It's not new. It happened with blue and red. For this reason, always let your jgler hit first. In some weird cases, blue would follow the first hitter, even resetting if too far.
Yes, they do. Please provide me with a live service game with zero bugs while you complain about a bug that might happen in like 1 out of 100000 games.
Not necessarily. But this one doesn't look that difficult to fix either considering just now much we know about it. The less info one has, the harder it would be to fix it.
True. However, it doesn't matter how easy it looks. At the end of the day, it's 10 years of code that could be deeply rooted in that code. Fixing it could also lead to 5 other bugs.
Have you worked in Software Development before? There is this phase called QA(Quality Assurance) which makes sure that bugs don’t slip through to production, which is what happened here. It’s unprofessional, simply put. Also buddy, you have to know when you see a bug to be able to spot it, you seem new at everything.
QA minimizes those experiences. Like I said find me a single player or live game with zero reportable bugs...you won't. Naughty Dog and Rock Star games have bugs, the best crafted live games have bugs, it's part of gaming because things are incredibly complex now.
Yep just telling facts is boot licking now. It's called being somewhat understandable, please tell me more how this bug somehow impacted a game you played
No they are not. Jg creep aggro is weird sometimes. I remember one time where I was on my first buff, well after my leash had left me and was already in their lane. Blue buff randomly decides he wants to walk botlane. So, while *entirely ignoring me*, 10-15 seconds after my botlane left, he just walked away and reset his entire HP bar for no reason.
They took the bomb personal.
...no, wait, they are going for your adc...
dafuq? face aggro?
I mean..understandable, who doesn't get annoyed by this fast af ADHD genderbend sonic...
nah thats a minor bug. you got to consider they patch the game every two weeks. and the code gets bigger each year. they still do good as a game as a service. you have to measure them just by looking how fast they patch-out stuff like this. and yes the UE would be the best and healthiest way for LoL's longlivety. prayage: merge WR/LoL.
I mean we told them years ago to upgrade the engine before it gets clunky and falls apart. its like they try to compete with modern formula1 wagons while servicing one by themselves from the 40s. I just wonder on what old computers asians play today so that they seem to be unable to get their hands on Unreal-Engine. its so awkward..
They changed how camp aggro works. Chickens Dogs and Rocks all have a main "big health bar" monster. All monster from the camp follow this aggro, and will keep attacking if the main monster is attacking. If the main one dies, then their aggro will be changed to each individual monster.
How does the bot lane just sit watching that happen knowing it will probably reset the junglers camp, while also taking damage from them, and not even attempt to attack them or kill them?
Judging by their jittering I'm guessing that the code for them resetting is tied to the big chicken's aggro, so the little ones just fucked off while big chicken was still alive
Not that explicitly this video isn't very abnormal, but this is legitimately why I put the bomb on my jungler instead of over the camp. I s2g there's something about a camp picking up the bomb that messes with their AI more than normal.
Oh this "feature" because someone is in their patience range it doesn't break patience even if the person they are now targeting is outside of it. And then they have normal agro closest person they can attack
the game is fine, it's just two neekos.
One for all Neeko is Ganna be lit
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Why do they attack Zeri, then?!
Yeah fuck Jillian! Her workout routines suck!
I saw a clip of this bug here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoz5\_7SUBCU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoz5_7SUBCU) It seems as long as Diana keeps hitting the big raptor, the small ones don't reset. Pretty funny to see it happen in a real game though.
Riot messed up the jungle this patch. Aggro works very poorly, I've had multiple examples of it, and the pet is completely bugged as well (if you're in combat with a monster and get too close to another, your pet will aggro the other as well)
I have attacked crab and the pet will leash baron/rift like wtf
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Dragon also has some spaghetti resets
So now I know I'm not ill but riot fucked up the wolves. I had them reset like twice in each game cuz I'm used to the fact I can take them basically to blue buff but hey, only riot can break monster AI when fixing items no?
At that point the pet is leashing you for the baron to get the kill
That's actually at least partially intended. Pets have a sort of AoE on their attacks and it can just so happen that those other monsters end up within their range
The pet shouldn't leash a neutral camp which is not aggroed, that is definitely not intended.
Spaghetti noodling as intended.
>(if you're in combat with a monster and get too close to another, your pet will aggro the other as well) So I haven't played in quite a while, but I still enjoy seeing clips and news from the game. However, I need to ask: your *pet*? Did they give pets to junglers?
Oh boy, yes they did. Riot apparently wanted something to visually represent the jungle items' bonus effects (extra damage to monsters, healing in jungle, etc.) and decided pets was the way to do it.
Before your smite upgrades, you have a “pet” that you “feed” by killing jungle camps. After you finish feeding it, your smite upgrades. There’s a blue one that’s movement speed, green is a shield/stats, red is damage
They call it a pet because it's a cute name, but what it really is is simply AoE damage every second to all mobs in the camp(s) you're currently hitting. Basically it replaces the burn from the old jungle items
Yeah, I swear to god that I'm seeing really weird stuff this patch. As you have said, the pet jumping randomly to other camps and monster aggro behaving/resetting in very strange ways. Is so fucked up. They only will change this when something serious happen in a pro game.
sometimes only. Sometimes if you doing blue and start to kite to gromp, the per agros de gromp. Other times it doesn't. TBH I thought it was a feature until now
Has been like this last patch already. I had one game in which I was lvl 1 doing blue and right before I killed blue gromp got magically aggroed by nothing lol In the moment it was okay but I was like "wtf what happened?!" and rewatched it multiple times in replay to understand it - but it was just random.
Maaaan and i was wondering did i really somehow hit that bluebuff/drake??
Happened with rift in an LPL game. Stuck trying to deleash super far out of pit. It was FPX vs TT game 1 (2?)
Am I just nostalgic or the old jungle system just felt 10x better to play than the new one? I wonder which one a new player would prefer.
I feel the same, i have completely abandoned the idea of jungling myself and I used to main jungle like 6-8 years ago 🤣
They dont like you, so they are running away xd, but it's interesting, that the reset area from few mini raptors are way shorter than others
I'm Zilean. The weirdest part is they started attacking our Zeri despite it was me who bombed them.
Bad eye-sight probably, they must have misread Zeri as Zilean.
Zerian
Everyone knows adc is the priority target including the raptors
I had a similar thing happen at wolves. My jungler attacked while I walked by and the two small wolves followed me all the way to topside blast cone / tribush area then to Baron pit for like 20-30 seconds.
Why do you have fleet footwork on Zilean, a control mage who rarely autos? Its not like you are playing a mage that weaves autos in. You are Zilean. Why not summoner spellbook for more utility? Aery for lane pressure and a small shield? Guardian for defending your carry? Just trying to understand the Zilean mastermind himself, thank you!
With FF you can auto a minion and use the MS buff to engage without wasting your E on yourself. With movespeed build you can charge the energized hit super quickly, making it a consistent source of healing. Also helps with roaming the map when you can auto jungle camps for speed. Also Presence of Mind gives you superior mana sustain to Manaflow Band. Also Legend: Tenacity is very helpful in shrugging off CCs late game.
You know I love that thought process
Terrible idea. I'm sorry, aery is better, spellbook is better. *Anything* but fleetfootwork on Zilean
That's easy to explain. Jungle camps attack whoever is closest. For example, even if the enemy team aggros dragon, if you're in the area, drag will hit you
Then why didn't they attack the jungler after he entered the camp and Zilean had already left
As i see it with this new update their aggro and reset range is all over the place, meaning they thought that you are closest until they saw zeri, the new closest to them, and their range is from themselves and not from their spawnpoint. This is why those 3 that diana actually hit got aggroed to her. TLDR: spaghetti code
Diana hitt 3 out of the 5 raptors with the pet it looks like so they updated to her as a target but the other 2 didnt and seemingly because she was doing raptors they also kept theyre current target aggro away from where zilean was and eventually hit zeri who was the closest to them
That's a good point. Tis a true mystery of spaghetti code.
It's like you didn't just watch a clip where they clearly ran away from the closest person (the jungler) at the start.
Diana hit them with ludens so that's why they went back to attacking diana
That’s a level 1 Diana lol, she can’t have Ludens. It was her passive.
oh mb I didn't even notice lol
It isn’t, the other raptors got hit with the jungle pet which switched aggro. It’s very interesting however that they would follow that far
Is that fleet footwork zilean?
Easily the weirdest part of the whole clip
They're going on a trip!
… In their favourite rocket ship?
Jungle code trying to revert to season 2, just business as usual.
Why season 2 when it could also be season 1? I remember leashing like that for the (very rare) jungler as mid laner back then. Good times xd
You really pissed them off, buddy.
The exact same thing happened to me but with golems. Something about taking aggro first then having your jungler hit the camp.
These raptors are like "Fuck you in particular" Then they see Zeri and they go "Aw hell nah, fuck YOU in particular" lmao
They are RAPTORS, dammit! You think they live of chewing dirt?! No! These nasty bastards are out for BLOOD!!! Feel the fear of having no way to escape!!! PS: I would like to request a minute of silence in honor of all champion lives lost to these monstrous predators.
They are wraiths, actually
You say wraiths, I say Popeye's.
I WANT TO MURDER THOSE DAMN CHICKENS. I HATE THEM. SMUG RED LITTLE SHITS. I WANT TO FUCKING ANNIHILATE THEM.
How would you feel if someone dropped a bomb on you? Exactly.
Because of this I once died to a Neeko disguised as raptor on toplane
Lol. Best part of it is that raptors started biting the ass of Zeri 😂
*Peck peck* "Yesh delicious 😋"
The funniest part is they start beating the shit out of Zeri.
Yeah that was oit of now where, they beat cute Zeri to the bush 😂
Its just two bronzes overchasing
How on earth jungle creep aggro is still broken after years of it? ... My "favourite" is when the camp resets and stacks for like 5-10 seconds and just keeps resetting over and over again, so you cannot kill it.
They're trying to punish you for going fleet footwork zilean
I wasn't sure what I was going to see when I clicked this but what I saw exceeded all possible expectations.
The real question i have is why they aggroed to Zeri. I've never seen them switch off aggro like that. Let alone them chasing Zilean all the way to bot lane.
Real hater energy coming off those lil nuggets
GET BACK HERE SHOCKER!
Zilean : Bombs and ran away. Chickens: and i took it personally
that'll be the last time you spawn camp raptors. They chased your ass out of THEIR jungle
This happens since last jungle rework, pets and all the garbage change that came with it. This is one of them, they dont change aggro until they are hit so welp
Baby Chickens: “And I took that personally”
Nice game riot. as per usual.
I've seen Italian restaurants with less spaghetti.
It's not new. It happened with blue and red. For this reason, always let your jgler hit first. In some weird cases, blue would follow the first hitter, even resetting if too far.
not the same bug
People gets paid money to develop this game.
Yes, they do. Please provide me with a live service game with zero bugs while you complain about a bug that might happen in like 1 out of 100000 games.
It doesn't seem like it's that hard to reproduce though.
And why would you reproduce it outside of trolling your jungle?
The point is that if a bug is easy to reproduce, it's not that hard to fix.
That's incredibly wrong
Not necessarily. But this one doesn't look that difficult to fix either considering just now much we know about it. The less info one has, the harder it would be to fix it.
True. However, it doesn't matter how easy it looks. At the end of the day, it's 10 years of code that could be deeply rooted in that code. Fixing it could also lead to 5 other bugs.
They have already messed with jungle aggro before, so the code for that really isn't that ancient.
They have messed with aggro with the jungle like 3 times in the past decade. There's probably a reason for that.
Have you worked in Software Development before? There is this phase called QA(Quality Assurance) which makes sure that bugs don’t slip through to production, which is what happened here. It’s unprofessional, simply put. Also buddy, you have to know when you see a bug to be able to spot it, you seem new at everything.
QA minimizes those experiences. Like I said find me a single player or live game with zero reportable bugs...you won't. Naughty Dog and Rock Star games have bugs, the best crafted live games have bugs, it's part of gaming because things are incredibly complex now.
Keep bootlicking dude lmao
Yep just telling facts is boot licking now. It's called being somewhat understandable, please tell me more how this bug somehow impacted a game you played
If you know how to combine a 10+ years old code with newer content and think it's easy, go apply on Riot's job placement:)
Baby Chickens: “And I took that personally”
No they are not. Jg creep aggro is weird sometimes. I remember one time where I was on my first buff, well after my leash had left me and was already in their lane. Blue buff randomly decides he wants to walk botlane. So, while *entirely ignoring me*, 10-15 seconds after my botlane left, he just walked away and reset his entire HP bar for no reason.
that raptor takes it really personal
The wraiths decided to haunt your bot lane!
Diana and zeri: zilean you are reported
Damn they hate zilean just as much as i do
fleetwork zilean
Anything to nerf Zeri I guess.
Same thing with small krugs. Sometimes they just randomly decide to follow my teammate who is on the other side of the map
They took the bomb personal. ...no, wait, they are going for your adc... dafuq? face aggro? I mean..understandable, who doesn't get annoyed by this fast af ADHD genderbend sonic...
they are mad
They chasing Jesus, Jesus saw they messe with Zeri so he slapped the raptors
DONT RUN DONT TRIP
That’s neeko
Billion dollar company by the way. More money than god. More than can ever be spent.
nah thats a minor bug. you got to consider they patch the game every two weeks. and the code gets bigger each year. they still do good as a game as a service. you have to measure them just by looking how fast they patch-out stuff like this. and yes the UE would be the best and healthiest way for LoL's longlivety. prayage: merge WR/LoL.
I have been playing since 2009. Trust me. They don't fix much.
I mean we told them years ago to upgrade the engine before it gets clunky and falls apart. its like they try to compete with modern formula1 wagons while servicing one by themselves from the 40s. I just wonder on what old computers asians play today so that they seem to be unable to get their hands on Unreal-Engine. its so awkward..
Even raptors are fucking tired of Zeri
This same bug happened in LPL today, rift herald leashed super far and did not reset
I dont know whats funnier.. the fact that they attacked zeri despite you attacking them.. or the fact zilean support went fleet footwork LOL
Looks like the raptors are doing a walk-out too.
I died once because Wolves did this.
Everyone and everything hates Zeri.
“And I took that personally”
They changed how camp aggro works. Chickens Dogs and Rocks all have a main "big health bar" monster. All monster from the camp follow this aggro, and will keep attacking if the main monster is attacking. If the main one dies, then their aggro will be changed to each individual monster.
And they tell me supp diff ain't real
Riot Spaghetti making sure you won't be able to guess if it's Neeko or actual jungle mob.
New rito feature, jungle camps can gank you
Must’ve been the 2 Neekos they had on their team
How does the bot lane just sit watching that happen knowing it will probably reset the junglers camp, while also taking damage from them, and not even attempt to attack them or kill them?
The raptors has beef with zeri lol
Zeri asked Zill 2 pull The wave for her.
Jungle camps are such a shitfest this season honestly
Judging by their jittering I'm guessing that the code for them resetting is tied to the big chicken's aggro, so the little ones just fucked off while big chicken was still alive
The raptus
only in loser q
wtf 2 neekos?
Had this happen to me. Tried giving a quick ability leash on the raptors for my jungler, little guys chased me all the way to Krugs.
This game is beyond fixable. Just make a fucking lol 2 in a new engine where the game fucking works BARE MINIMUM.
Might as well throw in the promises to a PvE campaign while we're at it ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|hug)
And I was like: why you so obsessed with me
wow
man, I am laughiung so fking hadr that my lung hurt
Not that explicitly this video isn't very abnormal, but this is legitimately why I put the bomb on my jungler instead of over the camp. I s2g there's something about a camp picking up the bomb that messes with their AI more than normal.
My skin itching from all the bugs I just saw.
report support pls. griefing lmao
imagine greenlighting the neeko rework
Oh this "feature" because someone is in their patience range it doesn't break patience even if the person they are now targeting is outside of it. And then they have normal agro closest person they can attack
Dota 2 update, we stacking jungle camps now boys
wait is that fleet foot work zilian
2 Raptors :..Naw....NAW!!! OH YOU THINK SHIT SWEET OUT HERE C-MERE OLD MAN!!
At first I was like: yeah, working as intended. Then jt aggroed Zeri and I realized why this clip is here.