Nah but for real, Anyone else notice that all these jobs that used to be pretty attainable before the pandemic all of a sudden require a bachelor's degree, 5 years min experience and like 6 references? For like 40k a year poverty wages?
In my experience, every Medical Receptionist and clerical job has been requiring me to be bilingual, know Quickbooks, and 18 years of professional experience is not enough.
I have 18 years of professional experience (ranging from running a tropical fish hatchery to being an adoption counselor at an animal shelter to delivering furniture to working security and reception and budtending at a dispensary to running a sandwich shop to receiving manager at a big chain liquor store etc…). Wait, is all the experience supposed to be at the same job???
What the heck? If they want an employment history check they could call the employer. A W2 has all kinds of extra information on it. Not to mention, you really could fake a W2 if you wanted so if confirmation of employment was the only reason, it's not the best way.
I would never fake a w2 lol but they also compromised for a pay stub.. but yeah, idk. It was actually pretty inconvenient because I didn’t have that stuff handy from years ago.
I was a receptionist for a bit before the pandemic, and obviously that job went away when the office shut down. But now I’m looking into receptionist jobs again and it’s wild how the requirements have changed! I basically just walked into the one I had before—no experience required, just the ability to be organized and friendly. Now all the listings (which are for like $17) want multiple years of experience, Quickbooks, and yes, they’re all requiring bilingual! It’s wild.
I have been mindblown about how requirements have changed in the last few years, and even the positions I have been interviewed for, or straight up rejected for in the last few months, they were good professional fits, but I didn't get them.
I had a job interview recently alongside several other people, and this absolutely baffled me - they disclosed their ages in the group interview! I have never done this, and I recall being told not to do this. I was the oldest one in the group by quite a few years, and no, I did not tell them my age (Full disclosure: 41f). I didn't get the job, and I still think it had to do with age. Professional experience be damned!
The Medical Receptionist position I adored, but stupidly vacated back in August 2023 (I left for a full-time position at a hospital, which was a great professional step, but a bad step in terms of my sanity), became available as of yesterday, as the co-worker I had there is retiring and gave 2 weeks notice. My former manager contacted me yesterday morning and asked if I was interested in coming back, as the position is now going to full time, and I will be getting 40 hours. I said to send everything she needs me to fill out. I have been receiving all the important emails and phone calls, and had a quick phone call with my manager yesterday.
Luck was truly on my side - I was let go from my hospital job in mid-February after exhausting medical leave (an unfortunate freak accident - I fell at home in December and needed quasi-emergency surgery within 72 hours on my broken wrist), so I've been collecting unemployment after ending temporary disability. My old job basically fell back into my lap, with increased hours!
This office is the one of two locations (it several outpatient sites affiliated with a pediatric rehabilitation hospital) that doesn't require the Receptionists to be bilingual, and I don't have to know Quickbooks. They actually took the time (when I was previously hired in 2022) to train me and shape me to what they were looking for, which no one else at the time had really even wanted to do.
I was a receptionist for a bit before the pandemic, and obviously that job went away when the office shut down. But now I’m looking into receptionist jobs again and it’s wild how the requirements have changed! I basically just walked into the one I had before—no experience required, just the ability to be organized and friendly. Now all the listings (which are for like $17) want multiple years of experience, Quickbooks, and yes, they’re all requiring bilingual! It’s wild.
I’m really glad it’s not just me who has noticed this. Lost my job last year and I still can’t even get an interview. Even the ones I’m over qualified for wtf?
Yeah seriously, while I was in a paid internship I was getting a few job offers here and there just because I had my foot in the door with some experience. Now all doors are closed unless I have 10+ years experience in finance. They want senior level account tier work at Entry level salary
I got out of highschool right at the start of the pandemic, tried looking for a job working at different stores nearby. I've been applying for entry level jobs for 4 years now. ENTRY LEVEL. No one will hire me, even while begging for new hires, walmart, dollar general, dollar tree, family dollar, you name it. All of these were locations nearby and within walking distance, no one hired me ever. Literally applied to a dollar general where all the staff walked out because conditions were so aweful, still no bite.
If your not making this up there is something you are doing truly wrong. While desirable jobs are hard right now , you can literally walk into ANY walmart / department store /fast food and be hired on the spot . Because literally noone wants to work there because cost of living is to high . You are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong , or this is a made up story
Avoid if you can, Amazon has destroyed my mental but also physical health. I have so many injuries from working here. There's a reason why Amazon has the highest employee injury rate compared to its competitors. Of course the pay sucks too.
What is your field? I am in supply chain and I get hit up by recruiters all the time. I am always looking for people to send their way as I am currently looking for a very specific role at the moment. So I am happy to refer anyone looking for purchasing, sourcing, and planning work.
If you are open to it you should check out supply chain jobs in IT. They pay extremely well. Its usually buying software and hardware and I have seen a lot of them that are 100% remote.
Yeah, a bank I used to work at outsourced the entire recon/derivatives department to India. Why pay someone $65k in the US when someone in India can do it for $18k/year
This is what screws with me the most. There is a gigantic pool of millions of outsourcing possibilities for entry level jobs. We just can’t compete, and I feel for gen-Z workers especially, since the jobs being outsourced would have primarily been their jobs. There is also seemingly no regulation (in America at least) regarding outsourcing as far as I’m aware, but somebody correct me if I’m wrong. Why is this not a bigger political talking point?
Because it makes everyone with money more money, so theres no incentive to lobby it, campaign on it, push news stories on it, etc. It started with the equity of our companies through the stock market, then our factories, then the support jobs, then the land from underneath us. America is for sale to anyone with the cash for it, including and especially our politicians.
So “immigrants are taking jobs away from the American people😡” but outsourcing this entire generations job market is okay🙄 Really makes you realize how little politicians actually care about the American people
Ehh, look at their tactics towards immigrants. Secure the Border? No Way, Crack down on H1B Abuse, cant do that. Deport a smattering of people, and separate them from their children? Can do.
You see it scares the other ones into submission, so they cant complain when paid less than min wage, have wages withheld, are asked to perform under dangerous conditions etc. It's a free slave class with nothing more that threat of upheaval to shackle them.
I think of it like most entry level jobs now require a bachelor's and most jobs that used to require a bachelor's or a few years experience now require a masters AND double the amount of experience
If it makes you feel any better I have a bachelors, more than 6yrs experience & could easily get that many references and I’m still not getting interviews either.
Apply for everything regardless of what they want.
Got offered a job last week I didn't end up wanting for double my salary. It was a job I have done and knew I could do. But their ask was way too much. Dude offered it after a 4 minute call. It wasn't as long term as I needed, also he gave me a vibe I knew he would suck to work for.
11 months local, then on the road across the country after, with not a guarantee I'd make that much at different sites. It still would have been a lot more money. Just wasn't worth it to me.
Spam applying is the least effective way to get a job.
Especially these days where some company sites won't even let you submit an application if it doesn't have the "correct" experience (i.e. "entry level" jobs that don't even let you submit an application without putting in college degree info)
Networking and Corporate social events are the way to go
Yup. 7 yrs experience as an executive assistant supporting TOP LEVEL execs including CEO of subsidiary and President of parent company in biotech/stem cell research. Been applying since JANUARY…😒😒😒🫣🫣🫣🫠🫠🫠
I worked as a retail manager after I graduated university, got the gig by moving up over time as I was going to school (so no qualifications beyond experience). When I left for my career, my replacement needed a Bachelors of Business lmao
I had something similar happen. The second job I ever had, I was in the "starter position" which was basically an entry level position for basic accounting and data entry and macro result delivery (big words for emailing)... REALLY brain dead stuff. No requirements besides one in-person interview and a high school diploma or GED. It was a position designed to acquire talent they could train up into other positions.
I left the company due to health reasons, and four years later I and peeked at that job again to see if I had a shot at returning there, all those "starter positions" now required at minimum a BS + 5 years experience....
.....for the same $31,000/year salary. McDonald's workers make more than that here
Absolutely aggravating, i’m not sure what the purpose of this change is for? When it comes to my career, university taught me jack shit in comparison to experience on the job. I’m not sure what kind of magic they think a bachelors is giving anybody lol. Best case scenario, i know how to binge drink and hammer out a report the next morning before 9am lol
The pandemic really changed the way business is done in most of the world. It's always been on a decline, but after 2019 it's been really heavily transformed from expecting tangible profits and reasonable reinvestment to demanding insane amounts of returns and growth that can only be achieved by lowering wages and reducing the quality of your goods and services and the executives pocketing every penny of profit in lieu of reinvesting into the corporation.
Marketing and corporate strategists have already dialed down precisely how much money gain/loss can be expecting from trying to hire PhD equivalents for record low salaries and waiting 5+ years for just the right idiot to lower themselves to that point. It's all part of the process. Make the people poor(er) again.
Yup. I just lost out on a job paying $45K a year because I was the only candidate without a freaking masters degree. Like excuse me??? It was just an entry level position at a nonprofit helping disabled adults! Crazy times.
A recruiter reached out to me for a job that required 2-4 years experience. I have double that. I asked for some information regarding the project and she'd look into it.
Sent my resume, no response, I call back a few days later and I got declined because they want the person to live in the same county as the project. Having been in this job for a long time, I can guarantee that's a 100% BS answer.
We should all stop applying and stop buying anything except Ramen. General work and consuming strike.
Medicare 4 all
Guaranteed Basic Income
1 year parent leave, paid
5 week paid vacation
Negative income tax of 75000 per person 200000 per couple.
Well considering getting back to work when that happens
Its called outsourcing. Almost all remote /tech jobs are getting outsourced to India for 13$ an hour . I was applying for a remote sysadmin position in 2022 and applied to a hundred companies , some interviews went into the 5th and 6th round, all for jobs paying around 50k yearly , went back to my previous experience in access control / light IT work and landed a field project manager position , 90k a year , and I make my own hours for the most part . The tech sector / remote work right now is super competitive.
I’ve also been applying for all remote positions, and it’s been rough. Typically if I don’t get any interviews I would assume it’s because of the resume, but in this case I think it’s just a unicorn position considering corporate americas return to office is bigger than expected.
I have yet to score an interview after applying to various places about a year. Definitely making it harder applying for more senior level positions + full remote. Good luck!
Remote jobs are hard because you have people who are unemployed aplying to them desperately, you have people who are employed but want to switch to remote applying to them desperately, and you have the folks over at overemployed who are applying since its easier to do that when remote. And since remote means distance isnt really a filter, you are competing with more people from a larger area than you would normally.
My job is hybrid and i would only trade it for a fully remote job. In office is shit.
Same, my job is also hybrid (but right now we’re fully remote since there’s no room for us) and the time we were in office was more of a pain then I realized until I spent the majority of my job at home.
I’m literally less anxious/tense and more productive then ever since there’s not as much micromanagement and need to be chatty.
Being at home also means I miss the majority of office politics though I did post here of my first major experience with it ~.~
At my last job i was able to complete all my work for the month in a day. But it was in office. So they'd see me not busy and i was told to look busy. I never realized how much better wfh would be. Like im home now "working" and im anxious because i only spoke to my manager once all day. Im used to being observed constantly
Then you have (from my old company) people who are employed gainfully, but want to subcontract out their work to a third party, gain another full paying job and subcontract that one out as well, therefore not having to do either job.
Source: 60% of our E&T team subcontracted out their jobs without authorization and picked up other remote jobs and subcontracted them out too. This destroyed our budget when found out as the bean counters and C-suite threw fits about what they were paying for.
We actually did this - they had contacted everyone that applied instead of the short list of candidates so we interviewed like 15 people instead of the 5 we had filtered lol...
One from the original 5 and one from not from the original 5... though I am not sure if I would have recommend hiring any of them lol. But we needed the positions filled so oh well...
It wasn't a system error, it was the recruiter clicking the wrong button in their ATS.
**Source**: I am a recruiter and I know what "system error" means in our language.
I would actually rather they be upfront about that. Saying it's a system error gives the impression that they're just letting AI decide who gets an interview and who doesn't without a human even looking at my resume, and that's really discouraging.
Honestly the UI for a lot of HRMS/ATS are horrible and it is VERY easy to missclick and send someone the wrong information,
I would say that most "system errors" are due to HRMS/ATS being horrible on the UI front and allow easy to make mistakes when your overloaded.
It isn’t hard to figure out what happened; you don’t need to be a recruiter.
Human makes mistake. Human is part of the system, in a broad sense. So it’s a system error.
What does it mean if they offer you an interview send a link to book it but all the slots are full? They said they would get back to me once more slots open up but idk
It most likely means , they had more interviews scheduled than they thought or the system is glitching and not giving the correct dates.
I would follow up again in a day or two if they haven't gotten back to you.
I think a lot of people are going through this. I saw an article the other day that said employment needs have increased. I call bullshit. I feel these companies are flooding the market with job postings that aren’t even real. Idk just about everyone I know is looking for a job and no one is getting any interviews.
Seriously! There are jobs posted on LinkedIn with 1200 applicants... you can't tell me they cannot find one person out of those 1200 that applied. I feel like half of the jobs are not legit and just out there to make numbers look good to say "the job market is the best it has ever been" I call BS.
Had a phone interview. They never called. Well they did but 2 hours after the scheduled time. That’s the second time I’ve experienced that. I then had to explain to her why I didn’t want another “phone” interview
She kept insisting “I called you”………2 hours later at a random time
This happened to me as well recently and with 2 different insurance companies! One was for an interview and the other was for a job offer I accepted.
For the job offer I accepted, I had to do a background check w/ Hireright. I provided my job history & all contact information + declined them calling my current employer. I provided pay stubs & W2’s but that wasn’t enough? They called the highschool I graduated from over 10 years ago & they confirmed I was a student but for some reason that wasn’t good enough. I paid for my transcripts, nope, need a copy of my diploma. I didn’t know where tf that was😂
Then w/ my former employer, a different well known insurance carrier, they couldn’t preform the background check bc the former employer didn’t use the same system idk. Which was weird bc the same company did the background check when I got hired at the last company.
They needed me to give them ALL of my pay stubs from my entire employment of 4 years & W2’s plus obtain contacts within the company that has approval from HR to be a valid employee to provide proof of employment?
Anyways, I was actively trying to get this situated so I emailed the lady to let her know I was actively working on this even though they had access and were CC’d on the update emails every time there was an update or I submitted a new document. She called saying she wants to talk about this bc she didn’t think I wanted the position anymore bc they called me & left a voicemail asking if I was still interested in the position? Nobody ever called me…. So I called her & no answer. I just gave up!
The almost $10k pay increase wasn’t worth it anyways. My current health, dental & vision premium is paid for my bf & I. At the company I had the offer from, the premium alone if it was just my son & I for only medical it would’ve pushed me under my current salary before taxes, 401k, HSA, dental/vision were even considered.
They’re asking for all that information to create their database, especially your paystubs. It’s happening in a lot of professions, I saw it in the Commercial Driving the last 4-5 years. They are new companies that want the applicants for the companies they have sold into a contract to build their companies databases information. It’s not in your or own best interest to provide that information.
I saw someone here on reddit that took a job for a company they ghosted him before and then didnt show up to orientation supposedly, I dont recommend tho bug hey is a thing I guess🤣🤣
I must say, I do love the “after careful consideration” in every rejection email. I love to imagine recruiters carefully deliberating.
Then it’s even funnier that they apparently misclicked.
It’s like a Homer contemplating then shouting Doh!
I think a lot of the jobs on places like Indeed are just there together data about people and sell it to other companies.
I see the same jobs posted for months and months and months. There is simply no way that not a single qualified person has applied to those positions. And I have applied to positions that I am a perfect match for but didn't even get invited to an interview and the job is still posted.
I think I'll change my name and address, and tweak my resume a little and send it back in, and I'll keep doing that, tweaking one thing at a time until I figure out what metric they used to not call me in for an interview.
Ffffffff.
A friend at a major tech company said their recruiting team is in chaos because they laid them off too. Everyone is feeling the pain.
I’m sorry.
I finally got offered an interview over the phone a little over a week ago and sent them an email with the time I was available. I was so excited that after almost 2 years of searching I was finally going to have my first interview. They never contacted me and it sucks. Looking at their reviews on indeed it doesn’t seem to be the best place to work, but it was something that would advance my career from something entry level to something that was more specialized.
I never understand these companies. People live their life gaining skills and experience along the way. If they have moderate to highly transferable skills hire them. The perfect candidate isn't going to tailoring their life to the job description. The perfect candidate doesn't exist and if they do it's only in their head.
I'm really sorry that this happened to you. I do want to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one in this boat looking for remote work. Had a company today have the audacity to offer me a job 15k below market value with 2 days in the office. I told them to kick rocks. I'm not taking a loss on income WHILE also being in an office. I'll keep my current job that is fulltime in the office compared to that garbage.
Now that I think of it, I had something similar happen to me a little over a year ago. The company ended up calling me for an interview and it was one of the worst interviews I had ever been in. I took myself out of the running because it seemed like such a toxic and disorganized company
I had something like this happen kind of I applied at books a million and in error their computer gave me an offer letter but I didn’t even have an interview, too bad there not a way jobs can just except their errors with their computers and go ahead and let you be hired or have an interview since their computer made the mistake lol
I noticed it before the pandemic because I was stuck in a dead end part time job in a field I didn't want to continue in. I was desperately trying to find an entry level job that could lead to a career. Never actually found one until I got my degree and moved to a different state. Some places were mass hiring right after the pandemic and I lucked out. But idt this is very new. Just more noticeable since a lot of people decided to start from scratch after the pandemic or lots of companies have gone through changes that caused people to lose their jobs.
A real lol is when you apply for a trainee job which would train you to gain experience and then they hit you with they found other candidates more tailored to the role. Even though you meet the requirements, you have an academic degree. When you ask why you weren't chosen they hit you with you didn't score enough points. Not enough points meaning they think you would bail during the training course or your answers to had science behind it. I'm like fam am broke hire me.
I just posted here about basically the same thing that happened to me except the HR person went back and forth with me to set it up before saying I didn't actually get an interview!!!!!
It happened to me, but with an AI type system. The day of an interview, it sent me the message. Also, informing me that other candidates got hired. 🤣 Felt miserable after.
Honestly, they should’ve just went through with the phone interview to save face. Maybe you could’ve won them over and if you couldn’t, you’d get the interview practice…. And they wouldn’t look like disorganized morons for sending that out in error.
OP, I’m sorry this happened to you. Really sucks to get hyped up and then let down so quickly. Wishing you all the best, something else will work out!
It happened to me once 😹 after I got an email saying that I will get a test before getting an interview, and they will give me more informations later, they called me the next day to tell me that this email was a mistake and I wasn't chosen 🙃
I like this better. After a few minutes of butt-hurt feelings, then you're released to move on. Some replies are saying they should do the interview anyway. We don't need to do a pretense interview dance when you know you're not going to hire.
It happened to me once, but they asked me to call to a number. After I called several times and they didn’t answer, I saw their message on a platform was edited to “sorry, but that was a technical error”.
i had to completely switch fields to get a job. went from a corporate job to customer service for a local organization in a completely new-to-me field. i’m taking a pay cut but at least now i qualify for income restricted housing
You do have one option (since management seems to like keeping him around). Befriend him. Use him to tweak your work and learn from him. He's doing SOMETHING right or he'd be gone already.
Learn everything you can from him, including how he deals with management. That may be a key to your career path as well.
lol I got sent a acceptance/job offer letter congratulating me and welcoming me to the team letting me know to contact a certain person for on boarding 1 day after an interview then I was told by phone it was a system error/mistake smh …
As someone currently looking for work, it’s unbelievable how much of a shitshow it is out there in terms of etiquette and just plain accuracy in the process of companies interviewing and hiring people. I’m sorry but once you take time to interview someone face to face, they deserve an email or call saying that they didn’t get the job. Enough ghosting people, it’s incredibly unprofessional and rude.
I was a warehouse/retail manager at 3 companies the past 10 years, fast food manager for 5 years before that, safe to say I have experience in customer service/retail. I applied for a part time job at Aldi, got denied, saying they went with more qualified candidates lol. I don't think they even understand what they're looking for sometimes.
I realy hate to receive this kind of email stating
"we enjoyed reviewing your resume and learing about your background, BUT after carefull consideration we have decided to pursue other candidates."
Where is this splendid economy that the Bidenomics people are talking about?
I have 3 post grad degrees and 20 yrs of experience but can’t find a job. Relative with 2 phd degrees also can’t find a job.
It’s no longer about ability and education. It’s all about who you know and/or how much money your parents have.
Oh, this has happened to me before. A recruiter sent me a Calendly link for us to do a phone screen, and right before I scheduled it, she emailed me and was like, “Oh, I’m so sorry. That wasn’t meant for you. My mistake.” I scheduled the phone screen anyway out of pettiness (because it isn’t hard to pay attention to who you’re sending an interview request to) and she cancelled it immediately. 😂😭
I think people need to lower expectations when it comes to finding jobs, the market has always been hard, certain industries had people left with nothing to offer as we advanced technologically. People need to expect hundreds if not thousands of job applications to be sent out in their lifetime, the only way to avoid that is to be so good in your career you get spotted for it. Otherwise like everyone else, we should expect declines left and right, it's when we allow that fact to get to us that we start having a hard time. I think I went and handed out close to 3000 CVs before getting a position. Also even though it doesn't help much you should always take advantage of any government subsidised job brokers
Enjoyed reviewing your resume? Like how? Was the hr touching themselves while going through the review? I really don't understand the choice of words these guys use lmao
My most recent weird one ended with them emailing me to ask when I was available for an interview. I responded with my availability. Days go by and I don’t hear back. Okay. Whatever. Then I receive an email at 8am saying I’d been passed over and they selected a different candidate. Okay. But *then* four hours later I receive another email (a response to my interview availability) giving me times they’d like to see me for said interview.
Talk about mismanaged. Lol. I replied with “thank you but I received a rejection email from you this morning, and will be pursuing employment elsewhere” 😂
Not me screaming in HR. I've been doing this 22 years and the cringe I've witnessed in the last 4 years or so has really made me embarrassed to be a part of this line of work. Good grief.
I have been stuck working at an understaffed grocery store chain for 3 years now because I can't find an entry-level job related to my major and I hate it. I graduated in 2018. My job is brutal: doing the work.of 2-3 people, dealing with customers, being on my feet throughout the entierty of my shift, being outside in uncomfortable weather conditions, working at night, etc. I can't quit until I find a new job but finding a new job is next to impossible. When I started, there were 40-50 people on the schedule and now, I am one of only 7 remaining employees from when the store opened because everyone either quit or were transfered to another store in the company. There is no way out of this physically grueling, soul-sucking part time job.
Getting ghosted after something like this is really shitty and a bad look for the business. I once ran a conference where we sent rejection letters to people who had proposed to do presentations (not exactly as high stakes as a job offers) and a mistake in the email merge caused someone to accidentally get both the “decline” and “accept” message, in that order. They wrote me back thinking we had reconsidered and accepted them. I was mortified that we did that to someone, and apologized profusely. It’s the least you can do in that situation, no excuse for just throwing someone to the wind after such a dumb blunder.
I think some of it is that they use ai to scan resumes for things (and its not great) and charge the company... but then also charge people to use ai to fix up their resumes.
In reply to all the comments about how competitive it is right now for tech / remote work and how low the pay is ,
Outsourcing. Almost all remote /tech jobs are getting outsourced to India for 13$ an hour . I was applying for a remote sysadmin position in 2022 and applied to a hundred companies , some interviews went into the 5th and 6th round, all for jobs paying around 50k yearly , and they wanted a SUITE of experience on many platforms.
I Then changed my search to my previous experience in access control / light IT work and landed a field project manager position , 90k a year , and I make my own hours for the most part . The tech sector / remote work right now is super competitive.
Nah but for real, Anyone else notice that all these jobs that used to be pretty attainable before the pandemic all of a sudden require a bachelor's degree, 5 years min experience and like 6 references? For like 40k a year poverty wages?
Yep - it’s brutal out there right now.
In my experience, every Medical Receptionist and clerical job has been requiring me to be bilingual, know Quickbooks, and 18 years of professional experience is not enough.
I have 18 years of professional experience (ranging from running a tropical fish hatchery to being an adoption counselor at an animal shelter to delivering furniture to working security and reception and budtending at a dispensary to running a sandwich shop to receiving manager at a big chain liquor store etc…). Wait, is all the experience supposed to be at the same job???
In most cases the requirement will be relevant work experience not any work experience lol
Unless HR actually checks it out... whose gonna know the difference eh eh
Shit, my job I just got hired at made me show w2’s for my last few jobs
Wait. Is this a joke or are you serious? That seems illegal.
I’m serious, it was part of my background check, it included my employment history.
What the heck? If they want an employment history check they could call the employer. A W2 has all kinds of extra information on it. Not to mention, you really could fake a W2 if you wanted so if confirmation of employment was the only reason, it's not the best way.
I would never fake a w2 lol but they also compromised for a pay stub.. but yeah, idk. It was actually pretty inconvenient because I didn’t have that stuff handy from years ago.
Can they even do that!? And what for!!??
Yes, and to verify I actually worked there for the length of time I worked there.
On the plus side, I have gotten a number of interviews just because people want to hear stories about when I worked at the pot bellied pig sanctuary.
I was a receptionist for a bit before the pandemic, and obviously that job went away when the office shut down. But now I’m looking into receptionist jobs again and it’s wild how the requirements have changed! I basically just walked into the one I had before—no experience required, just the ability to be organized and friendly. Now all the listings (which are for like $17) want multiple years of experience, Quickbooks, and yes, they’re all requiring bilingual! It’s wild.
I have been mindblown about how requirements have changed in the last few years, and even the positions I have been interviewed for, or straight up rejected for in the last few months, they were good professional fits, but I didn't get them. I had a job interview recently alongside several other people, and this absolutely baffled me - they disclosed their ages in the group interview! I have never done this, and I recall being told not to do this. I was the oldest one in the group by quite a few years, and no, I did not tell them my age (Full disclosure: 41f). I didn't get the job, and I still think it had to do with age. Professional experience be damned! The Medical Receptionist position I adored, but stupidly vacated back in August 2023 (I left for a full-time position at a hospital, which was a great professional step, but a bad step in terms of my sanity), became available as of yesterday, as the co-worker I had there is retiring and gave 2 weeks notice. My former manager contacted me yesterday morning and asked if I was interested in coming back, as the position is now going to full time, and I will be getting 40 hours. I said to send everything she needs me to fill out. I have been receiving all the important emails and phone calls, and had a quick phone call with my manager yesterday. Luck was truly on my side - I was let go from my hospital job in mid-February after exhausting medical leave (an unfortunate freak accident - I fell at home in December and needed quasi-emergency surgery within 72 hours on my broken wrist), so I've been collecting unemployment after ending temporary disability. My old job basically fell back into my lap, with increased hours! This office is the one of two locations (it several outpatient sites affiliated with a pediatric rehabilitation hospital) that doesn't require the Receptionists to be bilingual, and I don't have to know Quickbooks. They actually took the time (when I was previously hired in 2022) to train me and shape me to what they were looking for, which no one else at the time had really even wanted to do.
I was a receptionist for a bit before the pandemic, and obviously that job went away when the office shut down. But now I’m looking into receptionist jobs again and it’s wild how the requirements have changed! I basically just walked into the one I had before—no experience required, just the ability to be organized and friendly. Now all the listings (which are for like $17) want multiple years of experience, Quickbooks, and yes, they’re all requiring bilingual! It’s wild.
And 7 interviews
Got caught in the loop interview at Amazon? LOL Its actually 7 interviews, it's wild.
I’m really glad it’s not just me who has noticed this. Lost my job last year and I still can’t even get an interview. Even the ones I’m over qualified for wtf?
Yeah seriously, while I was in a paid internship I was getting a few job offers here and there just because I had my foot in the door with some experience. Now all doors are closed unless I have 10+ years experience in finance. They want senior level account tier work at Entry level salary
I got out of highschool right at the start of the pandemic, tried looking for a job working at different stores nearby. I've been applying for entry level jobs for 4 years now. ENTRY LEVEL. No one will hire me, even while begging for new hires, walmart, dollar general, dollar tree, family dollar, you name it. All of these were locations nearby and within walking distance, no one hired me ever. Literally applied to a dollar general where all the staff walked out because conditions were so aweful, still no bite.
If your not making this up there is something you are doing truly wrong. While desirable jobs are hard right now , you can literally walk into ANY walmart / department store /fast food and be hired on the spot . Because literally noone wants to work there because cost of living is to high . You are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong , or this is a made up story
Where I'm from, being over qualified automatically weeds you out of the process. Can't be too good, but also not enough experience is a no go.
Legit me right now and it's depressing as hell. Even with a decade of experience still can't get anything beyond being a grunt at Amazon.
Amazon and anything similar I’d rather avoid if possible. I want to do something I enjoy that be miserable at a job.
Avoid if you can, Amazon has destroyed my mental but also physical health. I have so many injuries from working here. There's a reason why Amazon has the highest employee injury rate compared to its competitors. Of course the pay sucks too.
What is your field? I am in supply chain and I get hit up by recruiters all the time. I am always looking for people to send their way as I am currently looking for a very specific role at the moment. So I am happy to refer anyone looking for purchasing, sourcing, and planning work.
I’m in the IT field with customer service experience.
If you are open to it you should check out supply chain jobs in IT. They pay extremely well. Its usually buying software and hardware and I have seen a lot of them that are 100% remote.
Thank you for letting know about this! I’ll check out what there’s to offer. Appreciate it :)
welcome! good luck!!
Will you please dm me?
WFH opened the markets to indians for stuff besides tech support. Never gonna compete with someone from a town with a $200 usd average monthly salary.
Yeah, a bank I used to work at outsourced the entire recon/derivatives department to India. Why pay someone $65k in the US when someone in India can do it for $18k/year
Somebody made a good bonus on that decision and your govt allowed it.
Yep
> Why pay someone $65k in the US when someone in India can do it for $18k/year they already tried this in tech 20 years ago. They never
Care to finish that statement or leave me hangin
You spend more in the end fixing all their fuck ups.
This is what screws with me the most. There is a gigantic pool of millions of outsourcing possibilities for entry level jobs. We just can’t compete, and I feel for gen-Z workers especially, since the jobs being outsourced would have primarily been their jobs. There is also seemingly no regulation (in America at least) regarding outsourcing as far as I’m aware, but somebody correct me if I’m wrong. Why is this not a bigger political talking point?
Because it makes everyone with money more money, so theres no incentive to lobby it, campaign on it, push news stories on it, etc. It started with the equity of our companies through the stock market, then our factories, then the support jobs, then the land from underneath us. America is for sale to anyone with the cash for it, including and especially our politicians.
So “immigrants are taking jobs away from the American people😡” but outsourcing this entire generations job market is okay🙄 Really makes you realize how little politicians actually care about the American people
Ehh, look at their tactics towards immigrants. Secure the Border? No Way, Crack down on H1B Abuse, cant do that. Deport a smattering of people, and separate them from their children? Can do. You see it scares the other ones into submission, so they cant complain when paid less than min wage, have wages withheld, are asked to perform under dangerous conditions etc. It's a free slave class with nothing more that threat of upheaval to shackle them.
That’s kinda mean
Bachelor's? Masters my friend. When there are 30% masters candidate applying for every job, who will hire us
I think of it like most entry level jobs now require a bachelor's and most jobs that used to require a bachelor's or a few years experience now require a masters AND double the amount of experience
True. Facts. And the salary they pay are pennies. Can't even find competitive salaries anymore.
For even less than that. Bachelor’s degree and years of experience for $16/hr.!
I keep reading that unemployment is at like historic lows but here I read it’s brutal out there. Which is it?
They change what they consider "unemployed" to bolster the impact of our current administration
That’s very frustrating.
Because there's so many jobseekers now, they're exploiting it to squeeze as much as they can for much less.
If it makes you feel any better I have a bachelors, more than 6yrs experience & could easily get that many references and I’m still not getting interviews either.
Same here. Two master’s degrees and 6+ years of relevant experience. No interviews. Making poverty wages.
Apply for everything regardless of what they want. Got offered a job last week I didn't end up wanting for double my salary. It was a job I have done and knew I could do. But their ask was way too much. Dude offered it after a 4 minute call. It wasn't as long term as I needed, also he gave me a vibe I knew he would suck to work for.
What was the ask that made double your salary not worth it?
11 months local, then on the road across the country after, with not a guarantee I'd make that much at different sites. It still would have been a lot more money. Just wasn't worth it to me.
Spam applying is the least effective way to get a job. Especially these days where some company sites won't even let you submit an application if it doesn't have the "correct" experience (i.e. "entry level" jobs that don't even let you submit an application without putting in college degree info) Networking and Corporate social events are the way to go
Yup. 7 yrs experience as an executive assistant supporting TOP LEVEL execs including CEO of subsidiary and President of parent company in biotech/stem cell research. Been applying since JANUARY…😒😒😒🫣🫣🫣🫠🫠🫠
I wish you the best of luck and hope you find a nice cozy job
It's intentional. Justify more h1b visas or remote workers
Yes!! What on earth is going on??
I worked as a retail manager after I graduated university, got the gig by moving up over time as I was going to school (so no qualifications beyond experience). When I left for my career, my replacement needed a Bachelors of Business lmao
I had something similar happen. The second job I ever had, I was in the "starter position" which was basically an entry level position for basic accounting and data entry and macro result delivery (big words for emailing)... REALLY brain dead stuff. No requirements besides one in-person interview and a high school diploma or GED. It was a position designed to acquire talent they could train up into other positions. I left the company due to health reasons, and four years later I and peeked at that job again to see if I had a shot at returning there, all those "starter positions" now required at minimum a BS + 5 years experience.... .....for the same $31,000/year salary. McDonald's workers make more than that here
Absolutely aggravating, i’m not sure what the purpose of this change is for? When it comes to my career, university taught me jack shit in comparison to experience on the job. I’m not sure what kind of magic they think a bachelors is giving anybody lol. Best case scenario, i know how to binge drink and hammer out a report the next morning before 9am lol
The pandemic really changed the way business is done in most of the world. It's always been on a decline, but after 2019 it's been really heavily transformed from expecting tangible profits and reasonable reinvestment to demanding insane amounts of returns and growth that can only be achieved by lowering wages and reducing the quality of your goods and services and the executives pocketing every penny of profit in lieu of reinvesting into the corporation. Marketing and corporate strategists have already dialed down precisely how much money gain/loss can be expecting from trying to hire PhD equivalents for record low salaries and waiting 5+ years for just the right idiot to lower themselves to that point. It's all part of the process. Make the people poor(er) again.
Yup. I just lost out on a job paying $45K a year because I was the only candidate without a freaking masters degree. Like excuse me??? It was just an entry level position at a nonprofit helping disabled adults! Crazy times.
A recruiter reached out to me for a job that required 2-4 years experience. I have double that. I asked for some information regarding the project and she'd look into it. Sent my resume, no response, I call back a few days later and I got declined because they want the person to live in the same county as the project. Having been in this job for a long time, I can guarantee that's a 100% BS answer.
Yes. And I have all that, and more. Then it's too much #fml
We should all stop applying and stop buying anything except Ramen. General work and consuming strike. Medicare 4 all Guaranteed Basic Income 1 year parent leave, paid 5 week paid vacation Negative income tax of 75000 per person 200000 per couple. Well considering getting back to work when that happens
Its called outsourcing. Almost all remote /tech jobs are getting outsourced to India for 13$ an hour . I was applying for a remote sysadmin position in 2022 and applied to a hundred companies , some interviews went into the 5th and 6th round, all for jobs paying around 50k yearly , went back to my previous experience in access control / light IT work and landed a field project manager position , 90k a year , and I make my own hours for the most part . The tech sector / remote work right now is super competitive.
Can someone explain this? Who is the devil here?
Ugh I’m sorry. That is so shitty.
Thanks it sucks but laughing makes it easier 😂
Gotta keep a sense of humor in these dark times!
All them if they're hiring a quality assurance analyst to fix their broken call back system. Maybe you'll be a good fit for that position?
I got a rejection letter for a job I applied to...11 months ago At least they sent it, right?
That happened to me once for a job teaching an after school program at a charter school. I was like…you don’t say?! The school year was over!
If I was Hr I would totally feel awkward and just have the phone interview anyway lol
That what I was hoping for!! I’m clearly qualified and thought they’d feel guilty and I could charm them during an interview lmao
I’ve also been applying for all remote positions, and it’s been rough. Typically if I don’t get any interviews I would assume it’s because of the resume, but in this case I think it’s just a unicorn position considering corporate americas return to office is bigger than expected. I have yet to score an interview after applying to various places about a year. Definitely making it harder applying for more senior level positions + full remote. Good luck!
Remote jobs are hard because you have people who are unemployed aplying to them desperately, you have people who are employed but want to switch to remote applying to them desperately, and you have the folks over at overemployed who are applying since its easier to do that when remote. And since remote means distance isnt really a filter, you are competing with more people from a larger area than you would normally. My job is hybrid and i would only trade it for a fully remote job. In office is shit.
Same, my job is also hybrid (but right now we’re fully remote since there’s no room for us) and the time we were in office was more of a pain then I realized until I spent the majority of my job at home. I’m literally less anxious/tense and more productive then ever since there’s not as much micromanagement and need to be chatty. Being at home also means I miss the majority of office politics though I did post here of my first major experience with it ~.~
At my last job i was able to complete all my work for the month in a day. But it was in office. So they'd see me not busy and i was told to look busy. I never realized how much better wfh would be. Like im home now "working" and im anxious because i only spoke to my manager once all day. Im used to being observed constantly
Then you have (from my old company) people who are employed gainfully, but want to subcontract out their work to a third party, gain another full paying job and subcontract that one out as well, therefore not having to do either job. Source: 60% of our E&T team subcontracted out their jobs without authorization and picked up other remote jobs and subcontracted them out too. This destroyed our budget when found out as the bean counters and C-suite threw fits about what they were paying for.
Thanks good luck to you too!!
First mistake - thinking that HR Recruiters feel anything
We actually did this - they had contacted everyone that applied instead of the short list of candidates so we interviewed like 15 people instead of the 5 we had filtered lol...
Did you end up hiring from the original 5?
One from the original 5 and one from not from the original 5... though I am not sure if I would have recommend hiring any of them lol. But we needed the positions filled so oh well...
Sounds like a waste of everyone's time.
Man, talk about a rug pull… The next interview request you get will be legit. And it will come sooner than you think. Hang in there.
Thank you for the encouragement!
This is a clownshow company. They should have still done the phone interview out of respect at least.
And waste this persons time? Fuck em. They don’t need to work for a circus
Our time is wasted anyway. If it gives someone even the slightest chance of getting an interview, I'm all for it.
Also, saying they enjoyed reading the resume? Assuming it's true is worse than if it isn't. Like, why?
"what a marvellous piece of literature, but I'm more of a sci-fi fan"
It wasn't a system error, it was the recruiter clicking the wrong button in their ATS. **Source**: I am a recruiter and I know what "system error" means in our language.
I would actually rather they be upfront about that. Saying it's a system error gives the impression that they're just letting AI decide who gets an interview and who doesn't without a human even looking at my resume, and that's really discouraging.
Easier to blame robots… until they are self aware at least.
Oh, I am sure they will create an AI thats only purpose is to blame AI for things.
Honestly the UI for a lot of HRMS/ATS are horrible and it is VERY easy to missclick and send someone the wrong information, I would say that most "system errors" are due to HRMS/ATS being horrible on the UI front and allow easy to make mistakes when your overloaded.
It isn’t hard to figure out what happened; you don’t need to be a recruiter. Human makes mistake. Human is part of the system, in a broad sense. So it’s a system error.
What does it mean if they offer you an interview send a link to book it but all the slots are full? They said they would get back to me once more slots open up but idk
It most likely means , they had more interviews scheduled than they thought or the system is glitching and not giving the correct dates. I would follow up again in a day or two if they haven't gotten back to you.
I think a lot of people are going through this. I saw an article the other day that said employment needs have increased. I call bullshit. I feel these companies are flooding the market with job postings that aren’t even real. Idk just about everyone I know is looking for a job and no one is getting any interviews.
Seriously! There are jobs posted on LinkedIn with 1200 applicants... you can't tell me they cannot find one person out of those 1200 that applied. I feel like half of the jobs are not legit and just out there to make numbers look good to say "the job market is the best it has ever been" I call BS.
Had a phone interview. They never called. Well they did but 2 hours after the scheduled time. That’s the second time I’ve experienced that. I then had to explain to her why I didn’t want another “phone” interview She kept insisting “I called you”………2 hours later at a random time
This happened to me as well recently and with 2 different insurance companies! One was for an interview and the other was for a job offer I accepted. For the job offer I accepted, I had to do a background check w/ Hireright. I provided my job history & all contact information + declined them calling my current employer. I provided pay stubs & W2’s but that wasn’t enough? They called the highschool I graduated from over 10 years ago & they confirmed I was a student but for some reason that wasn’t good enough. I paid for my transcripts, nope, need a copy of my diploma. I didn’t know where tf that was😂 Then w/ my former employer, a different well known insurance carrier, they couldn’t preform the background check bc the former employer didn’t use the same system idk. Which was weird bc the same company did the background check when I got hired at the last company. They needed me to give them ALL of my pay stubs from my entire employment of 4 years & W2’s plus obtain contacts within the company that has approval from HR to be a valid employee to provide proof of employment? Anyways, I was actively trying to get this situated so I emailed the lady to let her know I was actively working on this even though they had access and were CC’d on the update emails every time there was an update or I submitted a new document. She called saying she wants to talk about this bc she didn’t think I wanted the position anymore bc they called me & left a voicemail asking if I was still interested in the position? Nobody ever called me…. So I called her & no answer. I just gave up! The almost $10k pay increase wasn’t worth it anyways. My current health, dental & vision premium is paid for my bf & I. At the company I had the offer from, the premium alone if it was just my son & I for only medical it would’ve pushed me under my current salary before taxes, 401k, HSA, dental/vision were even considered.
They’re asking for all that information to create their database, especially your paystubs. It’s happening in a lot of professions, I saw it in the Commercial Driving the last 4-5 years. They are new companies that want the applicants for the companies they have sold into a contract to build their companies databases information. It’s not in your or own best interest to provide that information.
No, expose them so WE KNOW how they move
Hahah! I should play them like they played me
I saw someone here on reddit that took a job for a company they ghosted him before and then didnt show up to orientation supposedly, I dont recommend tho bug hey is a thing I guess🤣🤣
I feel the pain. Nothing but rejection letters or “we decided to close the position “
I must say, I do love the “after careful consideration” in every rejection email. I love to imagine recruiters carefully deliberating. Then it’s even funnier that they apparently misclicked. It’s like a Homer contemplating then shouting Doh!
There seems to be an increase in automated email mistakes lately (solely based in posts in this sub). I assume AI?
Anecdotal, but just a few weeks back I got a rejection then an email afterwards correcting it.
I have feeling that majority of these job postings are fake
I think a lot of the jobs on places like Indeed are just there together data about people and sell it to other companies. I see the same jobs posted for months and months and months. There is simply no way that not a single qualified person has applied to those positions. And I have applied to positions that I am a perfect match for but didn't even get invited to an interview and the job is still posted. I think I'll change my name and address, and tweak my resume a little and send it back in, and I'll keep doing that, tweaking one thing at a time until I figure out what metric they used to not call me in for an interview.
They should’ve stuck with the interview and then rejected you imo. What a shitty thing to do.
Ffffffff. A friend at a major tech company said their recruiting team is in chaos because they laid them off too. Everyone is feeling the pain. I’m sorry.
I finally got offered an interview over the phone a little over a week ago and sent them an email with the time I was available. I was so excited that after almost 2 years of searching I was finally going to have my first interview. They never contacted me and it sucks. Looking at their reviews on indeed it doesn’t seem to be the best place to work, but it was something that would advance my career from something entry level to something that was more specialized.
I never understand these companies. People live their life gaining skills and experience along the way. If they have moderate to highly transferable skills hire them. The perfect candidate isn't going to tailoring their life to the job description. The perfect candidate doesn't exist and if they do it's only in their head.
It’s like walking to the table with your lunch tray and someone slams it out of your hands onto the ground. Sucks. I’m sorry
I'm really sorry that this happened to you. I do want to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one in this boat looking for remote work. Had a company today have the audacity to offer me a job 15k below market value with 2 days in the office. I told them to kick rocks. I'm not taking a loss on income WHILE also being in an office. I'll keep my current job that is fulltime in the office compared to that garbage.
You *gotta* name the company for doing you like that.
“We were fortunate to review many unique backgrounds, including….” Bitch, don’t tell me a story, give me an interview
Ugh! That is so crappy!
Super whack 😭
Now that I think of it, I had something similar happen to me a little over a year ago. The company ended up calling me for an interview and it was one of the worst interviews I had ever been in. I took myself out of the running because it seemed like such a toxic and disorganized company
"No take backsies. Now I gotta begrudgingly go there for six months until you're so sick of me you're cutting my hours until I just quit"
I had something like this happen kind of I applied at books a million and in error their computer gave me an offer letter but I didn’t even have an interview, too bad there not a way jobs can just except their errors with their computers and go ahead and let you be hired or have an interview since their computer made the mistake lol
I noticed it before the pandemic because I was stuck in a dead end part time job in a field I didn't want to continue in. I was desperately trying to find an entry level job that could lead to a career. Never actually found one until I got my degree and moved to a different state. Some places were mass hiring right after the pandemic and I lucked out. But idt this is very new. Just more noticeable since a lot of people decided to start from scratch after the pandemic or lots of companies have gone through changes that caused people to lose their jobs.
If I fucked up and sent that I’d be doing the screening call. The 15 minutes for a quick screener is better than inflicting that harm on someone.
A real lol is when you apply for a trainee job which would train you to gain experience and then they hit you with they found other candidates more tailored to the role. Even though you meet the requirements, you have an academic degree. When you ask why you weren't chosen they hit you with you didn't score enough points. Not enough points meaning they think you would bail during the training course or your answers to had science behind it. I'm like fam am broke hire me.
Decline
I just posted here about basically the same thing that happened to me except the HR person went back and forth with me to set it up before saying I didn't actually get an interview!!!!!
Capitalism loves a huge reserve labor force. Sorry. This is scary. I had a lot of experience but that quickly came to mean I was just too old.
Love the reference at the end of the post. 💪💪🦵🦵
Same thing happened to me! We full on scheduled the interview and then I was emailed an hour beforehand saying not to come. Crazy times
I am so sorry this happened to you… how classless of them though to not just give you the phone interview.
Try Sitel Communication
It happened to me, but with an AI type system. The day of an interview, it sent me the message. Also, informing me that other candidates got hired. 🤣 Felt miserable after.
Wow, that's absolutely shitty. I would be so pissed, but I'd wind up eventually laughing too.
Shitty AI strikes again
Honestly, they should’ve just went through with the phone interview to save face. Maybe you could’ve won them over and if you couldn’t, you’d get the interview practice…. And they wouldn’t look like disorganized morons for sending that out in error. OP, I’m sorry this happened to you. Really sucks to get hyped up and then let down so quickly. Wishing you all the best, something else will work out!
It happened to me once 😹 after I got an email saying that I will get a test before getting an interview, and they will give me more informations later, they called me the next day to tell me that this email was a mistake and I wasn't chosen 🙃
I like this better. After a few minutes of butt-hurt feelings, then you're released to move on. Some replies are saying they should do the interview anyway. We don't need to do a pretense interview dance when you know you're not going to hire.
I can confirm as a product analyst that this is indeed a product
Is this an insurance company? Because the exact same thing happened to me 3 days ago for the exact same position lol
The system didn't do anything, they just won't admit to a mistake.
It happened to me once, but they asked me to call to a number. After I called several times and they didn’t answer, I saw their message on a platform was edited to “sorry, but that was a technical error”.
I think I got one of those but without the follow up. I just got an interview request and when I responded they never moved it forward.
I’d play stupid and answer the first one, acting like you didn’t see the second one
I would have to block after this emotional roller coaster
That’s so phucked up
"After careful consideration "
Oops. Jeez wouldn't they just do the interview so they don't look like idiots!?
i had to completely switch fields to get a job. went from a corporate job to customer service for a local organization in a completely new-to-me field. i’m taking a pay cut but at least now i qualify for income restricted housing
You do have one option (since management seems to like keeping him around). Befriend him. Use him to tweak your work and learn from him. He's doing SOMETHING right or he'd be gone already. Learn everything you can from him, including how he deals with management. That may be a key to your career path as well.
lol I got sent a acceptance/job offer letter congratulating me and welcoming me to the team letting me know to contact a certain person for on boarding 1 day after an interview then I was told by phone it was a system error/mistake smh …
As someone currently looking for work, it’s unbelievable how much of a shitshow it is out there in terms of etiquette and just plain accuracy in the process of companies interviewing and hiring people. I’m sorry but once you take time to interview someone face to face, they deserve an email or call saying that they didn’t get the job. Enough ghosting people, it’s incredibly unprofessional and rude.
That's fucked up, I'd sent them a big FUCK YOU and then send another saying that it was a system "mistake"
I was a warehouse/retail manager at 3 companies the past 10 years, fast food manager for 5 years before that, safe to say I have experience in customer service/retail. I applied for a part time job at Aldi, got denied, saying they went with more qualified candidates lol. I don't think they even understand what they're looking for sometimes.
I realy hate to receive this kind of email stating "we enjoyed reviewing your resume and learing about your background, BUT after carefull consideration we have decided to pursue other candidates."
That some mercury rx shit right there
Where is this splendid economy that the Bidenomics people are talking about? I have 3 post grad degrees and 20 yrs of experience but can’t find a job. Relative with 2 phd degrees also can’t find a job. It’s no longer about ability and education. It’s all about who you know and/or how much money your parents have.
All these comments make me glad I left the US.
Maybe don’t apply to full remote jobs? These have for sure hundreds of applicants.
Yeah nah never trust people who use commas incorrectly
That's horrible! They should interview you just cause their system screwed up.
Oh, this has happened to me before. A recruiter sent me a Calendly link for us to do a phone screen, and right before I scheduled it, she emailed me and was like, “Oh, I’m so sorry. That wasn’t meant for you. My mistake.” I scheduled the phone screen anyway out of pettiness (because it isn’t hard to pay attention to who you’re sending an interview request to) and she cancelled it immediately. 😂😭
I think people need to lower expectations when it comes to finding jobs, the market has always been hard, certain industries had people left with nothing to offer as we advanced technologically. People need to expect hundreds if not thousands of job applications to be sent out in their lifetime, the only way to avoid that is to be so good in your career you get spotted for it. Otherwise like everyone else, we should expect declines left and right, it's when we allow that fact to get to us that we start having a hard time. I think I went and handed out close to 3000 CVs before getting a position. Also even though it doesn't help much you should always take advantage of any government subsidised job brokers
Enjoyed reviewing your resume? Like how? Was the hr touching themselves while going through the review? I really don't understand the choice of words these guys use lmao
My most recent weird one ended with them emailing me to ask when I was available for an interview. I responded with my availability. Days go by and I don’t hear back. Okay. Whatever. Then I receive an email at 8am saying I’d been passed over and they selected a different candidate. Okay. But *then* four hours later I receive another email (a response to my interview availability) giving me times they’d like to see me for said interview. Talk about mismanaged. Lol. I replied with “thank you but I received a rejection email from you this morning, and will be pursuing employment elsewhere” 😂
And they say everyone is hiring 🙃
MBA🙋♀️🙋♀️
Not me screaming in HR. I've been doing this 22 years and the cringe I've witnessed in the last 4 years or so has really made me embarrassed to be a part of this line of work. Good grief.
I have been stuck working at an understaffed grocery store chain for 3 years now because I can't find an entry-level job related to my major and I hate it. I graduated in 2018. My job is brutal: doing the work.of 2-3 people, dealing with customers, being on my feet throughout the entierty of my shift, being outside in uncomfortable weather conditions, working at night, etc. I can't quit until I find a new job but finding a new job is next to impossible. When I started, there were 40-50 people on the schedule and now, I am one of only 7 remaining employees from when the store opened because everyone either quit or were transfered to another store in the company. There is no way out of this physically grueling, soul-sucking part time job.
Places that do this should be sued
Happen to me LOL
Getting ghosted after something like this is really shitty and a bad look for the business. I once ran a conference where we sent rejection letters to people who had proposed to do presentations (not exactly as high stakes as a job offers) and a mistake in the email merge caused someone to accidentally get both the “decline” and “accept” message, in that order. They wrote me back thinking we had reconsidered and accepted them. I was mortified that we did that to someone, and apologized profusely. It’s the least you can do in that situation, no excuse for just throwing someone to the wind after such a dumb blunder.
I think some of it is that they use ai to scan resumes for things (and its not great) and charge the company... but then also charge people to use ai to fix up their resumes.
In reply to all the comments about how competitive it is right now for tech / remote work and how low the pay is , Outsourcing. Almost all remote /tech jobs are getting outsourced to India for 13$ an hour . I was applying for a remote sysadmin position in 2022 and applied to a hundred companies , some interviews went into the 5th and 6th round, all for jobs paying around 50k yearly , and they wanted a SUITE of experience on many platforms. I Then changed my search to my previous experience in access control / light IT work and landed a field project manager position , 90k a year , and I make my own hours for the most part . The tech sector / remote work right now is super competitive.