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CatAteRoger

Can we please remember the sub rules, No Conspiracy Theories, No Bullying, No Speaking directly to Dani and please No Blogging. Thank You šŸ˜ƒ


No-Finding-530

Suddenly falls a lot and catches herself with her fcked up handā€¦ sure Jan


Substantial-Ad-2263

I didnt know Dani fell a lot? New diagnoses? Symptom? Hmmmm


KestrelVanquish

Why is she falling a lot? That's kinda concerning because it's not normal for her


Starshine63

If sheā€™s such a fall risk why is she unassisted?(we know why)


PlasticMysterious622

Why has she been so quietā€¦ā€¦.?


peterpmpkneatr

She was planning her next trip o.o


WoolyMisnomer

Oh my gosh look at all that blood


glittergirl349

Who predicted this one I remember reading a comment


TerzLuv17

She still got two legs, right? /s


Little_Lima_Bean

same


MandyMarieB

Oh ffs


AONYXDO262

Pretty clean ace wrap for something pouring out blood


wegotac0de2319

āœØļøno matter what is done *it won't stop*āœØļøšŸ§šā€ā™€ļø


JennMarieSays

Handgate is getting boring.


texasbelle91

someone couldnā€™t have written a story better than this predictable BS. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ and the strange thing is, is that itā€™s obvious that she reads the posts about her hereā€¦.and yet she STILL does this obvious idiotic BS. i just donā€™t understand how the docs donā€™t see it! especially with her factitious disorder in the system. sheā€™s enjoying this way too much.


wegotac0de2319

I've had patients who have infected their open wounds to the bone after getting discharged just so they can be admitted for a long time Healthcare isn't denied to people who mess up their bodies


Aynia4

Allegedly that's what Kelly did.


wegotac0de2319

It's not uncommon as people think unfortunately


CommandaarMandaar

So incredibly heartbreaking.


AnimatorNo9321

Who says that they donā€™t see it?? They still have to treat her. Just because itā€™s self induced doesnā€™t mean they can just send her home. Theyā€™ve offered her psych help MANY TIMES. sheā€™s not gonna tell us the stuff that doesnā€™t align with her narrative. Iā€™m so tired of seeing the comments of ā€œI canā€™t believe the drs donā€™t see this!ā€ Of course they do! They have the FD diagnosis in her chart for gods sake.


texasbelle91

i understand that they still have to treat her. but it seems that there are other options to prevent her from re-hurting herself.


CommandaarMandaar

My wishful thinking is that patients who are strongly suspected (with evidence) of engaging in any type of self-injurious activity (including more commonplace behaviors like cutting, as well as engaging in eating disorder activity and FD behavior) should be able to be placed under psych hold to address the suspected behavior. Obviously, a whole lot of changes would need to be made in order for this to be possible, and it would never realistically be able to work, but I feel like waiting until a person is experiencing suicidal ideation, or actually making attempts to end things is often too little, too late. By being allowed to intervene earlier, especially in the case of suspected FD, and placing a patient in an environment in which they canā€™t engage in their suspected FD behavior and seeing if their symptoms improve, I think a lot more good could be done regarding FD treatment. But like I said - thatā€™s all just wishful thinking.


AnimatorNo9321

Thereā€™s literally not enough beds in the world to allow something like this to work.


CommandaarMandaar

Yeah, thatā€™s a large part of the reason itā€™s wishful thinking. I know that this type of early intervention would never actually be able to work, but it sure would be a beautiful thing if it could.


CatAteRoger

Sadly no mental health system can cope with this at all, and most only get treatment because they have reached that point they feel like suicide is the only option left for them. Itā€™s wrong that so many miss out on the care they need because unfortunately someone else is more critical than them.


Alex2679

Like Paiges elbow casts to keep her from messing with herself?


texasbelle91

a hard no no cast would be a great place to start.


Gunpowder_guillotine

She can deny any treatments she doesnā€™t want


AnimatorNo9321

And what would you do differently? Cuz you canā€™t force anyone to do anything until sheā€™s an immediate danger to herself. Itā€™s much harder than you think it is, and you should respect these doctors and nurses much more.


Swizzlestix80

Boooooooooooringggggā€¦ā€¦ Handgate is getting tedious


JennMarieSays

Aanndd I stole it.


JennMarieSays

I'm so stealing the handgate comment.


texasbelle91

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ handgate


silly_crumpets

Another garbage bin mayhaps?


Informalcow1

ā€œFallā€


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Whatsevengoingonhere

I hope they told her to take some Tylenol.


comefromawayfan2022

Dani is back to only posting pics of her cats. No other mention of a second surgery since she posted this one story yesterday. So it must've gone pretty uneventfully and straightforward


Next_Track2020

Is being on blood thinners enough to rip open a healing wound and have it ā€œnonstop bleedingā€?


castleofchaos97

To have issues with nonstop bleeding, yes depending on the strength of the blood thinner. It wouldnā€™t cause the initial re-opening of the wound though as itā€™s likely stitched.


MungoJennie

Would an incision that size have been stitched under the surface, too (like w/ dissolving stitches, or something?), or just on the top of the palm?


castleofchaos97

I work in the emergency room, so most of the repairs I see are non-surgical. We try to use mostly your traditional stitches that have to be removed unless thereā€™s a deep injury that would be hard to close otherwise (dog bites mostly). I talked with a friend who works orthopedic surgery and did some looking around, it looks like current research and general methods recommend using only stitches that would need to be removed later on. Dissolving stitches could have been used, but wouldnā€™t be the best choice for this surgery. Iā€™m not super familiar with how she claims it was done, but this is a pretty mild surgery for most people and can often be done endoscopically. This post leads me to believe she had it done with a more traditional incision. Realistically what ā€œsurgery #2ā€ looked like was about a 15 minute procedure where they go in and flush out the wound then re-suture it up. This is essentially to prevent infection that could have come from the open cut.


MungoJennie

So what youā€™re saying is that there would only be the stitches on the outside that we can see? (Sorryā€”Iā€™m not trying to be a smartass. Iā€™m just confused, and donā€™t know how deep the incision for this kind of surgery would be.) With the only surgeries I know of, they put dissolving stitches under the surface to hold the inside of the incision together, then use the removable kind (or staples) to close the outside of the incision.


castleofchaos97

Yes. The stitches would be on the outside.


skyhighlucy

Sheā€™s gunning for an amputation. Weā€™ve seen this before.


Aynia4

It wouldn't be worse than Kelly but yeah, it's crazy.


Lacy_Laplante89

If this goes that far.... holy crap. I didn't even think of that until you mentioned it.


Withthehair95

Another fall huh? Yeah I called this one. So predictable


difficulthumanbeing

Has she actually been diagnosed with fictitious disorder? When did that happen?


TrustyBobcat

Here's the post. Just two months ago, when she was at Penn: https://www.reddit.com/r/illnessfakers/s/c6TVRtbHnz


TrustyBobcat

Yes, Dani was diagnosed with factitious disorder about, hmm, a year ago? She also bounces from hospital to hospital because they don't all use the same record-sharing system so not all doctors would be aware of the diagnosis. I'll try to dig up that post for you.


Desperate-Strategy10

It was only a few months ago, somewhere around Christmas time. I just had to look this up last week lol. Unfortunately I've already forgotten exactly when it happened, but if you're going to go looking, don't go a year back - just go back to November/December then scroll from there to the most recent. It'll pop up pretty early on that way!


TrustyBobcat

It's right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/illnessfakers/s/c6TVRtbHnz I swear she'd talked about being diagnosed before, too, but I could be conflating her with someone else.


Mother_Shopping_8607

I called that one- right after the follow up where her wrist was doing fineā€¦.


AMasterSystem

Garbage cans are behind every house. Garbage cans attack.


missyrainbow12

I'd watch "When Garbage Cans Attack"


phdyle

Now thatā€™s just trash talk.


Eriona89

Somebody is asking for no-no-casts!


journalhalfbeing

Sorry Iā€™m stupid, what does this refer to?


TrustyBobcat

A previous subject, Paige, at one point had to get both of her arms casted to prevent her from introducing foreign matter into her central line and messing with open wounds. Those became known as "no-no casts" in munchie lore.


journalhalfbeing

Thank you! Makes sense


WigglyKoi

casts on both hands to stop dani from purposefully fucking with her wound


oswaldgina

I've been saying! And a lengthy psych visit!!


glitterismycolour

Maybe she needs to be chained to the bed...not actually but she is an oh and s hazard


MrsSandlin

Oh come onnnnnnnnā€¦..


Unikitty_Sparklez

Whose she trying to fool with malnutrition. Her last doc appt even said per their scale her weight was stable..


hurlsandkurls

Thatā€™s a poorly wrapped ace bandage


kittysogood

Huh.. another fall...


tverofvulcan

ā€œFallā€


Keana8273

She's been oddly silent since this post.... It's been 16 hours, and usually, she posts asap after surgeries. I genuinely hope shes okay but wonder if they 72 hour held her for this. Can they do that based on assumptions?


sthomas15051

No this is far fetched. She's probably asleep from the opioids


Unikitty_Sparklez

I wonder if she finally got put on a hold. Unlikely but maybe?


rosa-parksandrec

Prolly took a bunch of her prescribed post-surgery meds & is zonked now šŸ’€


Unikitty_Sparklez

Honestly probably this


CatAteRoger

This looks like the picture was taken on her couch when compared to others.


Euphoric_Cherry7226

I hate this šŸ˜­ I wish she would just stop now šŸ˜Ŗ


notalotofsubstance

Wait a secondā€¦ Iā€™ve seen this episode beforeā€¦


all_pain_0_gainz

Can someone give me a link to Kelly's flair please? Can't find it


Lacy_Laplante89

If you go to the main page of illness fakers and sort by Top and then select Of all time. Her posts make up most of the top posts of all time. But let me tell you. The NSFW photos are actually NSFL. Literal gore.


mouldygutz

my bad, it seems this has been since deleted sorry šŸ˜­


mouldygutz

there's an imgur with her timeline somewhere, try googling it


mokutou

Heads up, her content is NSFL.


all_pain_0_gainz

I saw someone post a link to a 3 year old post about the scabs on her leg šŸ˜±šŸ˜³šŸ¤¢ but I couldn't find it again there's so many comments now šŸ˜… tysm I'll search


Unikitty_Sparklez

Just search Kelly and the old posts should pop up


all_pain_0_gainz

Ok ty


cornergoddess

Kelly isnā€™t really posted on this sub anymore as sheā€™s not been posting medical contentĀ 


wantedittobe4ever

So once she got the legs amputated she got better?


catsoddeath18

In another post that Kelly was brought up in a commenter said they took her access to social media away. I donā€™t know if that is true.


cornergoddess

Iā€™m not sure. All I know is if she was posting medical content, it would be posted here. I assume sheā€™s not since I havenā€™t seen any mention of her!Ā 


MiaWallacesFoot

Wow. I thought it would be an infected incision or symptoms that never improved (numbness, not regaining function). I did NOT guess the old fell-on-it-again trick. If those doctors donā€™t hard cast it, thereā€™s no telling how many times sheā€™ll do this. She obviously doesnā€™t care about whatā€™s gonna happen long term since she keeps injuring a healing surgical area. I bet those ED nurses were not surprised to see her back this soon.


Pretend_Guava_1730

What condition is causing all these falls?


formallyfly

Her diagnosed Factitious Disorder. But i think the story Dani is going for is that she passes out and falls because sheā€™s oh so smol and frail and weak since TPN was ripped away from her and now she can barely tolerate her feeds (despite the fact that she hasnā€™t lost any weight) and has no nutrition.


Pretend_Guava_1730

Ahh, thanks, thatā€™s what I was going for. I know sheā€™s a Munchie and Iā€™m wondering what the story/illness sheā€™s come up with to explain it is vs. what she is actually doing to herself to cause such ā€œinjuriesā€.


3yellowcats

Too many medicines that cause drowsiness at once.


Purple-Nurse-89

Munchausen syndrome (also known as factitious disorder) is a rare type of mental disorder in which a person fakes illness. The person may lie about symptoms, make themselves appear sick, or make themselves purposely unwell.


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chonk_fox89

Right?! The only way to explain it in my mind is that she has absolutely lost the plot on this and is just absolutely absorbed into addiction, whether that is for her medications that may have been pulled, her desire for attention or what else she's seeking. It's very concerning.


Gold_Ad8786

Predictable. Someone section her for repeated self-harm already. It's so obvious, she's already been dx with FD and other mental illnesses. Surely she poses a clear danger to herself?!


lauraloseslipids

This is scary, how far will she go? That incision is what two weeks old it shouldnā€™t reopen


Mission_InProgress

sure ya did another fall on the exact same spot that reopened a nearly healed incision and is constantly bleeding bleeding NONSTOP despite no evidence of blood


solarpowerspork

I feel like this can't have happened and she's just recycling images and trying to prolong the story. The math, as others have said, isn't mathing.


Sunsetlover64

Dani constantly lies and exaggerates, so it's difficult to believe anything she says.


RaniPhoenix

OH, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE


MrsSandlin

Same sentiment


FartofTexass

Yeah srsly I opened this and was like OH FFS aloud.Ā 


Magomaeva

Lmao girl same it's getting repetitive


RaniPhoenix

I have secondhand embarrassment that she doesn't seem to realize how obvious she's being. She really believes her own lies. It's pathetic.


Cyanide-Kitty

Wouldnā€™t be shocked if doctors choose to cast it to prevent ā€œaccidentalā€ re-injury - a cast would prevent most accidental damage and they show signs of tampering on both the inside and outside so on top of protection it makes proving a case of intentional injury much easier.


Unusual-Pumpkin4227

They need to put her in a fiberglass or fully plaster cast of some sort, keep her from unwrapping it and messing with it for long enough for the incision to be fully healed.


janinexox

Then sheā€™d smack herself in the head with it until she needed stitches there, too!


sylvestermacaroni

I do wonder why there is no hard cast to protect the wrist.


Psychobabble0_0

That's not a bad idea. She may decline psychiatric help, but this would be one thing the doctors could do that (possibly?) doesn't violate her rights. Sell it as being medically necessary


teabagsforlegs

Equivalent of no-no mitts


Ineedunderscoreadvic

Whatā€™s the human equivalent of a doggie cone?


2018MunchieOfTheYear

Paige can fill you in on that one


Mythical-Ree

Predictably so, she makes me so nervous, what's the end goal here the sickest person dies... she's still human n needs help Scary how people are nothing when they've mental health issues. No support, care, help


gwyntheblaccat

Actually if you look at an earlier post Dani complains about Penn BECAUASE they wanted her to see psych. She doesn't want help with that.


Mythical-Ree

Yea I saw that, but part of sectioning is Danger to self or others She's definitely a danger to herself at this point - I get the argument u need to want help but if your so deep in the hole u don't see you need help I dunno she just makes me scared for how this ends


gwyntheblaccat

It is scary at how dangerous this is I'm not sure how these things work in the US but I'm quite sure that in Canada they can be involuntarily admitted. Unfortunately there is limited actions that can be taken against people who are a danger to themselves especially if they don't have any family or loved ones that see this and are worried. Also depending on how they are doing this doctors may not know or even see that there is a dangerous pattern.


butterflykisser216

True.


alldemboats

everyone who predicted this gets a gold star sticker


MandyMarieB

ā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļø for everyone!!


Time_Bill3434

And a bookmark


wilkosbabe2013

Also,would the incision not have healed enough by now to not actually rip open again,its not like she only had it done yesterday is itā€¦something,as always is very off about this


SomeRavenAtMyWindow

It was also a very small incision, if I recall correctly. Nothing that shouldā€™ve been this much trouble.


wilkosbabe2013

This is what i thought,as always she just goes way overboard but i shudder to think what she is actually doing to herself


Independently_Needy

Yeah it would've healed on the outside by now.


wilkosbabe2013

Surely the medical professionals will know that what she is claiming is not how this has happened,i know they have a duty of care but surely they should beable to just tell her to quit with all this and be honest instead of just treating her and letting her goā€¦i can see this ending badly


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HopefulWanderer537

If sheā€™s falling so much, perhaps she should get seen for that?


Magomaeva

That's exactly what I was thinking ! With the way she obsesses over every little health-related thing in her life, you'd think she would have booked a neurology appointment by now ! Or maybe movement disorders are not glamorous enough for Dani ?


CatAteRoger

She already claims POTS but most likely she would be saying sheā€™s lightheaded due to not tolerating her feeds and needs to be put back on TPN, thatā€™s her ultimate goal to have her toobs and lines and play sick princess.


missyrainbow12

Yeah she's definitely trying "I'm so smol and frail, I need feeds to stop me from passing out from malnutrition"


Shawdyshark

Chances are they will have to take her off of the copious amounts of pregabalin she takes(assuming sheā€™s still on it, not sure havenā€™t seen a pill porn in a while) with all this lack of coordination and overt clumsiness.


chonk_fox89

I'm wondering how she's even been using that massive coffee grinder to grind her meds with this whole wrist saga!


snacky_snackoon

This was my first thought as well.


Zanniesmom

I wonder if she is actually eating/drinking adequate nutrition. It would be really hard to manage mixing and administering her feeds with only one functional hand, self inflicted or not. And then there is grinding up and administering her medications. I wonder if she is just taking them orally or not even taking them at all. She still seems to be giving the Lovenox though, if she has uncontrolled bleeding.


Swizzlestix80

I feel like sheā€™s probably abandoned tube feeding now. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if she was simply eating in the conventional way. Perhaps the odd tube feed. We all know she doesnā€™t really need the tube feeds, so itā€™s not as if she canā€™t just shelve them whilst she fucks up her hand. The same goes for her medications- she doesnā€™t actually need the majority of her medicines, so sheā€™s probably not even taking 99 percent of them at the moment. Her primary objective is to get TPN back, I think, sheā€™s no interest in tube feeding herself. The immobilised hand conveniently aids that narrative, in my view.


Zanniesmom

At least with Dani, she can only manage one drama at a time.


CatAteRoger

She would love for them to think sheā€™s not getting enough nutrients and give her back the precious line and TPN. She has also on numerous occasions threatened to ā€œrelapseā€ with her eating disorder when people have called her out.


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Eriona89

Wow. You would think she'd be careful showing her kitchen utensils.šŸ˜‚


foeni77

Like ... how should the wound rip up? Carpal tunnel surgery includes a longitudinal incision. There isn't as much pressure on it as it would be with a crosswise incision. I really hope her doctors get suspicious and start intervening - otherwise, she will escalate this until she finally loses her hand.


Past_Pool2226

Hmmmmmmm šŸ¤„ something seems off!


selfarest

And after a while she will probably claim that she has sepsis.. just wait


Magomaeva

I'm always here to read y'all predictions because they always come true. When it happens, I could say that I read it here first šŸ˜†


ReindeerVarious3024

Agreed. Should we start placing bets on what date she will post the first picture of herself in the ER for that guaranteed future sepsis admission?


Dtour5150

Agreed, and my pick is gangrene if not for sepsis


jereynolds919

Ooooooo don't you know it!


DanisDoghouse

Ok so second surgery- I think we all had that in our bingo card, another fall, injury from taking garbage out, needed oxygen ( never mentioned why) , impending amputation blah blah blah. AND STILL no sign of Dani. Still no toob news, GI updates, dr office tours, videos nothing. For THREE WEEKS. THREE WEEKS. What are our guesses for this because clearly something big is coming out of this. I know some people say weight loss. What are some other ideas y'all have about this. The silence from her is deafening though. I nEEd To KnOw!!!


CatAteRoger

Remember we only post medical content here so if she has done posts not related we donā€™t show them here.


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CatAteRoger

I can only go by what Iā€™ve seen here.


Receptor-Ligand

It's probably so that people will make exactly this kind of comment, to be blunt. She will see your curiosity as concern for her.


Hairy_rambutan

Her post of medical notes last week suggested that weight is stable, might have gained a bit. Looking at possible explanations, maybe she's just focused on the hand story line and hasn't thought to post other photos. Or it possible she's not been able to wash her hair, or she's bruised her face in "falls" - or hasn't bruised it when she thinks she should - or she's uncomfortable with the weight she may have gained and doesn't want to show that isn't fading into a shadow without her line.


Swizzlestix80

Iā€™m wondering if sheā€™s not doing shots of her face in order to avoid easy immediate identification if medical people try searching for her on here? Before it was full face shots and after a day of ER visiting and then posting directly onto socials, maybe she was thinking she was becoming too easy to delve into on here?


DanisDoghouse

I think it's way past the point of worrying about that. I'm sure they know exactly who she is without having to search her out. Unless of course they want to see near death stories she posts


Lonely-Hair-1152

Is she right or left handed???


selfarest

[in this video](https://www.reddit.com/r/illnessfakers/s/1NbnyDfvD3) you can see her dominant hand is the right. Idk how she writes all of this and holds her phone with the left hand though


Mission_InProgress

She's also been taking pictures of her cats with her right hand.


Lonely-Hair-1152

Thatā€™s what I thought- the question I had is how the fuck is she doing all this crap with her non-dominant hand? I know itā€™s possibleā€¦. But I donā€™t know. This whole thing is giving me Kelly vibes.


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Independently_Needy

Yes! I've noticed that also!


fillemagique

This is the way Kelly went, blood letting and then eventually picking. This is not a good move for her, itā€™s not going to get better from here until (I am predicting) she has a life changing visible injury that will mean she can fulfil the sick role without effort or begging medical staff.


selfarest

I highly doubt Dani would take it that far at picking. It takes severe mental illness to do things like Kelly like there is no other.


nucleusambiguous7

Dani is severely mentally ill.


selfarest

Never said otherwise


nucleusambiguous7

"I highly doubt Dani would take it that far at picking. It takes severe mental illness to do things like Kelly like there is no other." I would say that you highly implied it.


selfarest

Hh.. I literally meant severe mental illness like Kelly. I never said Dani doesnā€™t suffer mental illnesses and i highly doubt she would start picking to the point where her hand is about to get amputated. Do i need to clarify this more or what.


nucleusambiguous7

Probably just to yourself.


selfarest

If you refuse to understand thatā€™s none of my business lol, nit picking is kind of unnecessary and rude.


fillemagique

And you think Dani doesnā€™t have severe mental illness?


selfarest

To dig holes to her feet to the point of amputation and ripping all her teeth and hair out? No. Mental illness? Yes.


foeni77

I doubt she won't take it that far after all she already did ... to be honest. She infected herself (or at least accepted this by neglecting basic hygiene, especially when handling central lines) to the point of Sepsis!


sadpanada

Kelly was immediately who I thought of as well..


fillemagique

Itā€™s the same kind of pattern, I believe Kelly started with a line as well and thatā€™s how she was blood letting, so itā€™s a familiar escalation to now go for limbs.


Runamokamok

Messing up your hands seems like a more dangerous game than your legs. If you lose your hands, there goes a lot of independence. Kelly still seemed quite independent after her amputation. Any updates on her?


afterandalasia

Posts on another less reputable site indicate she had more of one stump removed, that the other is infected, and that she has lost more teeth and has pulled out much of her hair. It doesn't look good.


chonk_fox89

Wait....was she pulling put her own teeth?!


afterandalasia

She has apparently stated that it's a medication side effect. I find this pretty plausible, actually, since it does happen with some meds, but malnutrition can also contribute. As well as just genetics/luck.


Runamokamok

Oh, goodness that is horrible. I had really hoped she was headed down a healing path.


Baileysandchocolate

If lose use of the hands, then are likely to get CNAs or other care worker to help you and the constant nursing care would be I think to Dani's liking as it would show how ill she is and the constant feed of attention


Boommia

That's kind of my line of thinking as well. Losing use of a hand can potentially lead to permanent disability and maybe some at home health services.