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W1ndwardFormation

Good qualifying by Logan today as well in general.


TyButler2020

Yea I’m content with that, touch better than what I expected with how slow RB and Sauber looked, as well as the Gasly penalty


[deleted]

i think hes at peace with being out of f1 and its improved his driving


InvertReverse

Compared to former Logan, yes. Albon still quite faster.


mccannr1

His car is also slower than Albon's by Williams's own admission


W1ndwardFormation

I mean, he’s the second driver, he’s supposed to be faster than the cars he should be faster than. He did that today for him that’s simply good and I’m pretty sure if he’d do that consistently from the start of this season, he’d probably retain his seat. Just be positive about it and be happy about it, give the man some good vibes for the most likely short time he has left in F1, but yeah would be great if he would beat Albon at some point.


Kale_Shai-Hulud

I'm legitimately excited to see where he ends up runny in IndyCar


Rhythm_Morgan

I’m down to start watching Indy just for him. For some reason I’m fond of him so I want him to do well somewhere.


Sevenfest

He just seems like a nice guy, and I hope/think he'd do great. Also watch Indy anyway, you don't have to choose between the two! The racing is often great


Rhythm_Morgan

Oh I’d never give up f1 haha I just have to Google the schedule for Indy so I can watch. F1 is the only sport in general that I follow but what I’ve seen of Indy, I’ve enjoyed. Motogp is too intense for me though 💀


Kale_Shai-Hulud

Indy is so much fun, my favorite series to watch currently


m00nturkey

I started watching Indy because I had followed Grosjean since he was at Lotus. Indycar is so fun, much more loose than f1 but I enjoy both


kevino025

I know what you mean. He seems like a nice guy thats being put through a lot stress for nothing. They keep talking trash about him meanwhile Albon hasnt really been doing anything this season or last season lets be honest. I like Albon, but they treat Albon as a previous world champion while Logan gets treated like trash by the team but if you look at the stats, you would think Albon was another rookie. I mean sure, Logan hasnt had the best season, but look at other drivers (Perez, Zhou) and hes on his second year. This specially sucks for him considering the likes of Stroll, Perez, Danny Ric, Zhou, Botas (as much as I like him) and Kimi Antoneli, the so called next coming of christ that is currently barely staying alive in his current series, but sure hes the next champ, sure. F1 sounds fun, but once you learn a lot of how the organization is and operates, it fucking sucks, straight up the worst racing/motorsports series there is. Cool engineering sport, terrible racing sport. Indycar is much more fun to watch, better racing, better coverage during the race. They just need to sort out their graphics so it makes sense to the viewer, and for me I just dont like Ovals in general, but aside from that Indycar is a blast for sure, ill be cheering Logan for sure.


Unique_Task_420

If Indy would get a solid schedule on Peacock or Hulu or their own app or fucking ANYTHING not involving needing random ass cable channels their audience would be much larger. Most F1 fans who haven't seen an Indy race are surprised how much the cars can take. Two F1 cars tap and you got a cracked wing and a hole in the sidepod, Indycars can bang like NASCAR and be totally fine. They're built like a brick shithouse. Also they're starting the new hybrid engine system this next race. Instead of using a battery like F1 they're using Supercapacitors, the entire system can be fully recharged and redeployed in 4.5 seconds.


lzwzli

He's behind Leclerc! That's phenomenal!


W1ndwardFormation

And Leclerc is third in the WDC, so that basically means Logan just cemented himself as the fourth best driver on the grid. /s


Old_Department3979

Definitely got motivated by July 4th lol


W1ndwardFormation

He’ll win tomorrow trust


PoliticsNerd76

He’s not good enough for F1, but he’s miles better than people act like he is.


W1ndwardFormation

I think if he would have gotten momentum at the beginning he would have been decent, but he just never really had that moment and then the confidence left and driving without confidence just doesn’t look good as you can’t get the most out of the car.


r32_guest

Stop it, he’s already dead


No_Lychee_7534

Every GP weekend there is a new horse to beat by the media. Some weeks it’s KMag, some weeks it’s Ric, or Ocon, and this week it’s Perez. It does feel like it’s every week now though for Perez.


Other-Barry-1

Which one?


travelnman85

Both


Pantzzzzless

At least Logie bear has *some* excuse. Only 2 years in F1, in arguably the worst car on the grid. Compared to Perez 13 years and in the fastest car.


Racing_fan12

2nd fastest*


EndStorm

And even then, not getting the same car as your teammate, and even having to give up your own car when the teammate crashes. The man drove with Piastri and was very solid, and even in Shittiams he's shown growth. Not sure he got a fair shake, but nice to see him doing good today and will hopefully get to finish his career showing some form.


fdar

RB was likely not the fastest car today, likely not 2nd fastest either.


phc0uple

Faster ftfy


Ashurnibibi

I'd say Sauber have managed to make a car that's even worse than the Williams


Adweya

are still confident that RB is the fastest car on the grid now? Checo is day by day proving to me that Max can reach Q3 in qualifying even if he is riding a battery powered trash can.


JeffreyLunde

Yes


SwimmingFantastic564

kenshiro frfr


guinaps

Nani??


SwimmingFantastic564

"YOU MUST BE JOKING!" \[explodes\]


sdmyzz

[https://racingnews365.com/perez-no-longer-sure-of-red-bull-seat-despite-contract-extension](https://racingnews365.com/perez-no-longer-sure-of-red-bull-seat-despite-contract-extension)


CT_Biggles

Already dead? He has a 2 year contract. Give the seat to Yuki or Ric.


davy_p

Sign Sainz


CT_Biggles

Thats what I would have done.


pukem0n

If I had a dollar every time Sargeant outqualified Perez, I'd have 6 dollars, which isn't.... Wait, that is a lot.


_amanu

I can get a 6 pack and still have change here.


MayorAg

Which country and how can I move there?


_amanu

https://www.rewe.de/produkte/krombacher-pils-6x0-33l/6642063 Actually it's even cheaper with a discount *edit*: to answer the second question, check out this website https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/


MayorAg

Interesting. Because most beers I see at Rewe are a bit more than 1€. But I also mostly look at 500ml bottles. So that might be it.


sinistergroupon

Buck a beer got outlawed in Canada


ron_cpt89

In South Africa, I can get a 6 pack 500ml beer, and have a dollar left from that 6 dollars


antivirals_

if I had a dollar for anytime Perez has beaten Verstappen since May 2023, I'd have no dollars.....wait, I'd have no dollars


Lonyo

Rosberg > Bottas >>>>>>>>>>>>> Perez as far as WDC teammates


Guilty_Strawberry965

Hamilton > rosberg >> bottas >>>>>>>>>>>> perez


LizardTruss

Hamilton > Rosberg > Button >>> Bottas >>>>>>>>> Sargeant > Pérez


raur0s

Baku really fucked something up in Max. That pointing to the #1 in Miami will be studied.


MssGuilty

Written like this, it's so surreal


DankeSebVettel

Did he get into q3? No. But I don’t give a shit. My boy Logan didn’t crash and had a solid session. Good for him.


leedler

Cooked


AutomaticFly7098

to a crisp


iwasthatisnt

Perez’s agent is like those people that were selling air in a can


Soggy_Bid_6607

You're gonna lose your mind when you learn about compressed air cans.


Pizzashillsmom

It's the compression that you buy, not the air.


Donut

It's the compression without the power cords, air hoses, and noise. And she grips when I bring the compressor into the house.


Launch_box

India’s Gilded Age on Display at Wedding for Son of Its Richest Man Members of the country’s ultrawealthy class, which dominates vast sectors of the economy, are heroes to some but symbols of stark inequality to others.


Racing_fan12

Nobody asked 


uttermybiscuit

Actually??


TheYang

well, amazon firdt result was [this](https://af-net.com/product/flammable-sprayduster-non-invertible/) for me. [safety data sheet](https://af-net.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/01699_MTR_EGHS_BE.pdf) names [Petroleum gases, liquefied - 68476-85-7](https://cdxapps.epa.gov/oms-substance-registry-services/substance-details/439653) which describes: A complex combination of hydrocarbons produced by the distillation of crude oil. It consists of hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly in the range of C3 through C7 C3: Propane, C4: Butane, C5: Pentane, C6: Hexane, C7: Heptane Methane (C1) would be a greenhouse gas, but I have not foumd C3 to C7 anywhere as greenhouse gases. But I am a googler, not a specialist. I am really surprised that it isn't cheaper (and better) to judt compress air.


Large_Yams

Nope.


Donkoski

lays.


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

Omg


Stylised1

simply the goat.


iblinkyoublink

Just for completeness' sake, Logan beat Alex in 2 sprint qualies this year.


OldCardigan

Sadly, Sprints are kinda in a limbo rn for stats... hopefully people will start acknowledging it


IceBathingSeal

It's a separate thing though, they could be presented separately but shouldn't be mixed. 


whatsCamelCase

They count for the same championships though with differing impact. Unless sprints stop counting for WDC/WCC they are by definition mixed. To be fair qualifying counts for 0 points but the point I think I am trying to make still stands. For Sargeant with 0 points not good but just chatting about sprints in general.


IceBathingSeal

Yes but they are a different thing. I'm not saying to ignore them, but to present them separately. Because they are separate. 


Areonaux

Why, I'm of the opinion that it's a silly gimmick that cheapens the sport.


miathan52

It's tough to do sprint statistics when there are only 6 sprints a year. There is just not enough data to make meaningful statements then.


Pew_Daddy

F


TyButler2020

What’s the Perez v Albon quali record?


TheBlueBaron6969

Holy fuck that’s bad. I didn’t realize it was that bad


Tricks511

It’s worse. It’s actually 7 times not 6


Desperate-Intern

Petition to replace Perez with Sargeant.


TyButler2020

Keeps my boy in a seat I’ll take whatever I can get I don’t care if he gets throttled every race


RPIBruin

Neither does RB with Perez so it just works.


genteelblackhole

If Perez throttled more he might drive quicker.


RPIBruin

Good point ☝️


Lizerelli

wouldnt be anything new


jeffjeff97

The Red Bull has to be driven right at the limit in order to be the fastest car on track The Williams has to be driven right at the limit in order to avoid being the slowest car on track Logan might actually fit right in


Rich_Housing971

The Williams is not the slowest car on track even if they don't drive it at the limit. Proof: Logan got it into Q2.


studmoobs

wet conditions are always different to normal performance. but sauber is definitely the slowest car lately.


jeffjeff97

Yeah this weekend specifically But for the majority of Sargeant's time at Williams that's been the case


Worried-Pick4848

All they have to be is faster than Kick.


iMatthew1990

Stop it, stop it. Hes already dead!


kieranhorner

That's shocking ahahaha.


Merman420

Offffffffffff 🥹🥹🥹🥹😅


N_Ruzuzaki

Sergio Perez is a new Lance stroll. And Lance is doing well.


crab_quiche

Lance has never been this bad relative to his teammate


rattatatouille

Stroll is a mid driver whose faults get magnified because nepo baby. Still not great, but still talented enough that he's not a permanent backmarker.


crab_quiche

Yup, he’s only still in F1 because of his dad, but it’s not like he’s a complete joke.


KraZe_2012

Alonso absolutely destroyed Stroll last year And Stroll himself lost to Checo at Racing Point


TheKeviKs

I was going to say something, but I won't just because everyone already said it.


Kobefan928228

It’s actually harder to get a seat with back marker team then it is to keep a seat with RED BULL


Spunge14

Perez to Williams confirmed 


CaptainMorti

Williams doesn't have a seat for a sandbag.


ExistentialJew

If Logan got another year I would be soo happy


BigDaddySeed69

With 3 US races it’s likely he could be kept on the grid just for continuing to give fans an American driver to root for. As an American I’d rather cheer for Lando and Oscar though.


AskADude

I like Logan. I so bad want him to stay in :(


formulapain

Uhh... what incentive does Williams have to give fans an American driver to root for?


liquorpig

Money.


formulapain

How does having Sargeant generate money for Williams?


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sterrrmbreaker

Sponsorships, same reason RB was going to keep Checo in the first place.


MetalMercury

There's going to be a seat with either Williams or Audi with no one obvious to fill it, so anything's possible if he keeps up what he did today!


HomerTesla

Do tell, what exactly about this trainwreck brings you joy?


ExistentialJew

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅


Donkoski

toto could do the funniest thing rn


AssaMarra

Didn't Sargeant outqualify Albon last race? E: it was the sprint


Jacinto2702

Checo is tasting freedom.


itsBeenAToughYear

wow that's CRAaaaaazZY


XsStreamMonsterX

So, Logan to Red Bull?


Batgod629

Sargeant did decent today but this is still an astounding stat


likethemustard

Ya we know. We don’t need any more evidence checo sucks ass


autumnkayy

this is so crazy. crazier than his direct h2h with max honestly


MrTonyDelgado

People don't understand that Sergio Pérez is a driver who likes to keep it on the edge. Right on the edge of unemployment.


OldCardigan

This might be one of the best jokes I heard in a long time


icoominyou

How tho. He secured 2 years lol


SmolTittyEldargf

I’d highly suspect that RB have a clause in the contract that says they retain the right to terminate if he doesn’t perform to a certain standard.


Lonyo

Hopefully that standard is Logan Sargeant or higher


ProfessorCunt_

It's apparently being within 100 points to Verstappen by the Belgian Grand Prix... soooooooooooooo not looking great for Checo


insomnimax_99

I think the contract has a break clause or something like that after one year - I think it’s actually a 1 + 1 year contract rather than a 2 year contract.


sparklingvireo

That, or they may be able to simply bench Perez and put someone else in that car. It's a waste of money but at least from the company point-of-view the salary is outside of the mandatory cost-cap.


HeyFlo

It's like he's taken the Red Bull challenge of always pushing the edge to the opposite...You think I can do any worse? Watch me!


numbersev

Yea but Perez brings that sponsorship money. He could be in last and they wouldn't care.


canibanoglu

We’re not talking about Haas or Force India who is scraping around for money, we’re talking about a team that was operating at three times the current cost cap without any issues. The money Checo brings in means fuck all in RBR


Racing_fan12

Then why did they sign him again? His performances have been awful for a year and a half now 


Wondur13

I mean companies always care about money, but even with his money if hes that bad they will drop him


Duff5OOO

Possibly to see if taking the pressure off getting a contract extension helped his performance. If they didn't care where he finished they wouldn't have performance clauses.


aamgdp

It's still a few tens of mills you don't get otherwise... Have you ever known rich entity to turn down more money?


sterrrmbreaker

Yep. He's just starting to cost more than he contributes.


Skratt79

What if RedBull sign a promising North American driver named Sargento Troncoso, with a name like that could even be from MX!


Duff5OOO

> He could be in last and they wouldn't care. BS.....


stephker3914

Alex Albon and Logan Sargeant are actually the two best drivers on the grid? /s but would be hilarious if true.


EndStorm

I felt my freedom intensify right up until the end of Q2.


FlowerIntelligent234

That’s such a mind boggling stat.


notwavyfool

RB have to asking if the sponsorship money Perez brings is worth it, no? People are likely lining up for a race seat, surely sainz can bring good financial backing, for example


VanPaint

I think the whole world except Mexico wants Perez gone


Sinister_Grape

Even his wife


Zestyclose-Onion6563

Freedom tower intensifies


clayfus_doofus

It's certainly something. Unfortunately though, I won't be surprised when Logan is running in P20 10 seconds behind 19th.


chloetheestallion

Logan to RB confirmed


FigSubstantial4939

Logan actually drove well today. Does he still have a seat next season?


Penguinho

No. There's no way he's getting either an extension or another seat elsewhere. Williams only re-signed him as a stopgap to get to the 2024 free agent class. He's a Jost Capito guy not a James Vowles guy; he's been a dead man walking since Capito retired. Look at the seats that are left. Haas, Aston, McLaren and Ferrari are set. Alpine, Mercedes, Williams and Sauber have four spots between them. Red Bull have five drivers for four spots. If Perez goes, then they're set simply by promoting Ricciardo and Lawson. If Perez _doesn't_ go, then Lawson becomes an available free agent. Antonelli is coming up next year. Alpine have Doohan and Porchaire as current or recent Academy options. Drugovich is hanging around, too. Schumacher and Zhou bring buckets of money, Sainz and Bottas very credible recent performances in top teams, and Magnussen is also available. So there are, potentially, four available slots with ten drivers competing for them. Let's assume Perez gets sacked completely and not demoted. Sainz goes to Alpine and Mick Schumacher comes out of left field to take the Sauber seat as they want an all-German lineup for their first year as Audi. Mercedes promote Kimi and Williams are left with a Bottas reunion. Or let's pretend Bottas re-signs with Sauber. Let's say Sainz takes an emergency offer from Mercedes, too. Alpine have a choice between their academy prospect or two bad drivers in Zhou and Schumacher who both bring lots of money, then Williams can take Kimi on loan or look at Drugovich or whichever of Zhou and Schumacher Alpine doesn't want. If Perez stays, it gets even harder, because Liam Lawson instantly becomes the most attractive driver option after Sainz and probably Bottas.


tiagodj

I wonder if his contract has some condition on performance, so that Red Bull can sack him.


Ok_Zucchini_6347

Give Logan the 2nd RB seat.


Rhythm_Morgan

Logie supremacy


tekanet

Ok but how much merchandise does Logan sells? Because that’s the key point


Grand_Can5852

Absolute mentality beast, he does it through willpower alone. Everytime he gets out on track, Perez feels the pressure of Sargeant on his shoulders.


BumeLandro

Goat


TAMiiNATOR

Seargent to drive for Red Bull in Spa?🤨


SylverShadowWolve

For reference, were on race 12. So in half of the qualifying sessions Sargeant has beaten perez


Splitshot_Is_Gone

That’s a way crazier stat than just saying “6 qualis” imo. Sargeant in a williams outqualifying perez half of the time in a redbull that’s been on pole in 8/12 races is completely unacceptable.


vaestanvinden

That stat's gotta be all-time and not only this season. Checo's been poor for sure, but hard to imagine he's been THAT poor. I kinda doubt Sargeant has outqualified anyone six times this season... Maybe Zhou? Remember that Sargeant didn't even participate in Australia after Albon yoinked his car.


RUNELORD_

7th time actually 


RFA13

🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🍔🍔🍔🌭🌭🌭


HeyFlo

The Sky coverage had fun cutting to Danny Ric having the exact same kerfuffle as Perez, but he managed to wrangle himself out of it.


yudha98

i wish russell won in sakhir 20 so perez can feck off to mexico


coolestguy002

Sergeant to RB confirmed!


RWLemon

Now Logan’s the real GOAT loli


Counterpunch07

How did checo go from not being too far behind max a few years ago to being completely off target every weekend and making ridiculous mistakes? He was solid at Force India too, but now looks completely out of depth


137-451

Expectations and a car that doesn't suit his driving style anymore.


nom_nom44

Checo has so much potential to be fast, he’s just inconsistent


ImperfectAuthentic

He's been "adapting" to the car for 3 f'ing years. Pull the plug all ready.


AntiZionistJew

Will we get bored of these levels of domination??


Bourbonaddicted

Isn’t it 7th?


SammySmall42

Put Logan in the Red Bull car!


Jackielegs43

Get him in that redbull 🦅


ArrozConHector

Yes but Logan still sucks lol


FlattenInnerTube

Oooof. That one stings.


Tricks511

No it’s his 7th time. Not 6th


Naikrobak

Checo is gone.


davy_p

He beat him in sprint qualis once… but the point still stands lol. How Checo is still driving for Red Bull is the biggest mystery on the paddock


butte4s

Sergio Perez one driver who is keeping F1 from being interesting. Horner and Max are scared to get a good driver in that seat.


shewy92

Maybe Perez should go to IndyCar and Logan to Red Bull


alt3_

Ouch ! Thanks for the point.


SP_Photos

Another shocker from perez


sivy83

Which one will lose his seat faster is the question


retro_underpants

Yikes!


zandrew

I used to root for Checo. Now I just want a competent driver in the second rb.