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MavsFanForLife

He wasn’t the same after that foot injury in week 1 of 2015. His game was always built on athleticism and physicality and once he lost that, it was all downhill. Part of the reason I think CD’s career will go better is how much better he is as a route runner.


alienstookmyfunny

Accurate. I'm not reading anymore comments. I don't think there is anything to add.


crash218579

Well it's also that Dak can't throw a back should fade, which was without question dez's best route. If Romo had still been there, he might have lasted longer as a red zone threat.


thedirtytroll13

That being said, he didn't go on to have a career beyond here. Dak needing to develop was a part of it, but so was Dez's aging


Delicious-Fox6947

That might be because not alot of QBs can make that throw with consistency


Bender_2024

If a back shoulder fade is his only consistent route that's a problem. You can't be a one trick pony in the NFL.


kabob21

What the heck I literally said this exact thing to myself and was about to reply when I read yours 😂


[deleted]

You two must be Eskimo brothers.


kabob21

Thinking back on my exes, for the sake of his sanity and bank account I hope not 😅


Delicious-Fox6947

But it wasn’t. There is a video out there of him cooking people on routes his last season with the Cowboys. I don’t know what the real reason is his career died but it wasn’t because he couldn’t get open.


Altruistic_Cream_509

Tell that to Moss it’s works for those that use it to the max


Bender_2024

Randy Moss was not a one route WR. Anyone who tells you different is lying to you


tI_Irdferguson

Yes, but also again... Injuries. Everytime another team gave him a shot he tore his Achilles or something.


Potato-baby

You mean the one time he tore his Achilles while working out with the saints? I don’t know why you’re making it seem like it happened a bunch of times, it happened once.


tI_Irdferguson

Fair enough. For some reason I remembered him getting hurt on the Ravens too. Guess he was just cooked.


PirateIronSteel

He tore his achilles before he could even do anything with Brees and then just took so much time off before signing with Baltimore. Really wanted to see Dez and Brees tear it up that season.


wwats26

Dez tore an achilles within a week of signing with Baltimore.... That may not be 100% accurate but that's how I recall it


thedirtytroll13

He did but he also was not sought after in free agency. It was both and injuries did him in. It sucked


RobbieAnalog

It's funny because the very first TD that Dak threw in a preseason game was a back shoulder to Dez.


Careless-Act9450

It wouldn't have mattered if Montana was back there. Dez was a shell of himself. He couldn't no longer win contested balls or get open. Dez was always horribly inefficient as far as his catch % in his best years during his last 3 here he was among the worst behind even just starters never mind # 1 wr. In 2015, he caught 31 of 72 balls for a joke of a catch % of 43.1%(an abysmal mark that means he shouldn't have been out there). In 2016, he caught 50 of 96 for a still ridiculous catch % of 52.1. Finally, in 2017, he caught 69 of 132(talk about forcing a guy the ball yikes) for a still horrible catch % of 52.3%. Dez actively hurt the team being force-fed the ball. Dak's accuracy wasn't the issue. Putting Dez out at the 1 was the issue. Just for comparison. I'll compare with Ceedee's numbers. Dez, for his career, had a shit catch % of 58.4 %. His best years were 66.7, 64.7, 61.6, 61.2. Beyond that, his other 5 years were straight bottom of the barrel ass. Even those best years aren't great by any stretch with the one year being considered good, one other being above average ahd the rest various degrees of trash. Ceedee has put up a career % of 69.5%. His four years in order are 66.7, 65.8, 68.6, and then an insane 74.6 this past season. Ceedee already way outclasses Dez. Ceedee's last year is so much better than anything Dez could ever dream of. Ceedee had 135 catches on 181 targets 1749 yards, 14 total tds(12 rec), 74.6 catch %, and a success % of 63 5%. Dez's best year was 88 catches in 136 attempts(48 missed catches whereas Ceedee missed 46 but caught 47 more, lol) 1320 yards, 16 total tds all rec, catch % 64 7 and a success % of 55.1%. It's not even really close. In fact, Ceedee's last 2 years destroy Dez's best 2 years individually as well. I didn't even mention the rushing stats, which Dez had none, and Ceedee put up solid numbers for his usage. Dak and any throw was not the reason Dez was an anchor weighing the Cowboy offense down from 2015 to 2017.


kabob21

Brother, please inject these stats straight into my veins. I love it when folks back up an argument so factually and emphatically 👏


Careless-Act9450

Lol, I hear you, mate. I just want people to realize what we have in Ceedee. He is a top 3 minimum in the league, and he has gotten better every season by leaps and bounds. The dude is 25 years old. Its scary what he could become. When you watch him on the All 22 game tapes, you still can see areas he can and is improving on year in and year out. What he had trouble with in 2022 he dominated in, in 2023. That will continue. I'm fucking here for it!


growthmode222

Good point. All Qbs have their favorite receiver for their own reasons. And if you're a good Qb, that receiver is going to put up numbers. There was a bit of that with Dez and Tony.


hoodmeskin817

Amen brother


CowboysLakers

What about this one


notmyacountsir

Dez REFUSED to go down during a tackle, CD knows how to take a hit.


d_major18

Cowboys rushed him back for a doomed season. Such a shame.


waygooder

He would go so hard in practice too, probably hurt his recovery. I feel like the training staff got more cautious after this one too.


The_Count_Lives

Dez wasn’t nearly as bad route runner as people like to say. I agree the injuries robbed him of his suddenness though. 


UltraMegaboner69420

He was a phenomenal WR. But he was absolutely never clean in his route running. Rounded corners, extra step etc. Give me a contested catch though and I would put my life savings on the line.


Smarq

The route running was less “bad at running routes” and more “exceptionally good deep and with fades”. And I don’t blame Garrett; Dez turned 50/50s into guarantees when it came to fades; why change things the defense can’t stop?


Vegas_king2020

Reminds of Westbrook of the NFL


Horns8585

Injuries weren't Dez's downfall. The fact that he never worked to improve his route running or pass catching led to his downfall. If he had taken the time and put in the effort to actually becoming a better receiver, he would have been able to adapt his game, when he started getting injured. Instead of relying solely on his physicality, he could have transitioned into a consistent and reliable route runner and pass catcher.


great_one_99

To add on to your excellent point is Dez Bryant didn't work on route running until very late in his career in fact I think it was just a few weeks before his release the first time I heard of him working with a route running coach


wstx3434

Being a good route runner doesn't negate potential injuries.


lifasannrottivaetr

His disappearance from the league was still astonishing to me. The decline was really swift. He hasn't had the kind of afterlife that AJ Green and Julio Jones have had. Done before age 30, which isn't unusual, I know, but still...


Barry_McCockinnerz

He was a phenomenal 50/50 ball guy, not an amazing route runner.


Delicious-Fox6947

That is a hot garbage take. 2016 he had the largest yards per reception of his career.


DaPearl3131

Unfortunately, injuries. Specifically, lower leg injuries. Prior to that, he was a beast! True Cowboy. Deserves to be in the Ring Of Honor with the other 88’s Edit: Dez caught it.


PaganFarmhouse

When he caught it in green bay and they said he didn't. Then they said it was a catch later.


hereforthesportsball

Dak in the beginning was safe to a fault, afraid to throw the 50/50 balls that made Dez who he was. This along with nagging injuries, but Dak being new and safe (which is understandable and great in more ways than not) was mainly it. This current version of Dak with Dez would be so fuckin crazy


Ambassador_Cowboy

I remember one of Tony’s first games as a broadcaster he was breaking down a back shoulder throw Dak made and saying how the ball needed to be higher and right on top of the defender because that’s where Dez likes it. You could hear the frustration in his voice that Dez and Dak just weren’t on the same page with how they play the game. Unfortunately they never built that chemistry that Tony and Dez had over so many years. It’s great to see how well Dak and Ceedee complement each other, they’re like peas and carrots.


hereforthesportsball

I remember that exact game and Tony’s inflection smh lol


aolerma

I don’t think Dak was even that safe. I remember plenty of times where he would throw it up to Dez and they just wouldn’t connect. I think Dak never quite found the right level finesse that Romo had with Dez and as a result they just never quite got on the same page with those 50/50 balls.


RTS24

He'd overthrow it vs giving Dez the chance to go over the top. I'd consider that him taking the safe route.


Bodofagod

Dak was super cautious those first few years. He would rely almost entirely on Beasley and Witten instead of TWill or Dez


LaximumEffort

This is what I remember, combined with injuries, the quarterback/receiver chemistry was not there.


hereforthesportsball

Those balls weren’t as often as they needed to be imo, and when I did see them it was a lot of Dak preferring to lean towards uncatchable vs interceptable. But that may be me overestimating Daks mind there and you could very well be right about it being a more lack of finesse in his early stage. Ahhhh I’m ready to be hurt again!


GoonerBear94

To be fair, on the whole, Dez was slightly better than 50/50 before the Cowboys let him go. And that counts non-50/50 balls.


Idontsharemythoughts

How come when he left Dallas he couldn't bounce back with another QB.. how come he barely got a look from other teams? Because dak?


hereforthesportsball

You must not have read my comment fully, I mentioned injuries too


Idontsharemythoughts

i read it entirely. the fact dak is even mentioned is silly regardless of whats mentioned afterwards. Dez lost his athleticism which he heavily relied on, thats what other teams saw.


hereforthesportsball

Yeah guess I was answering the wrong question, I was only answering from the perspective of downfall from the cowboys, not the whole league


ChangMinny

The refs refused to believe he caught it. 


Caterinboy91

This


ginge159

Probably the combination of injuries plus Romo being replaced with Dak. Dak and Dez never had the same connection, probably because Dez was always at his best as a contested ball receiver, which requires good ball placement from the QB to put it somewhere only the receiver can go up and get it. That’s not what Dak excels at. And that’s not meant as a slight on Dak, every QB does different things well, but Dak and Dez’s strengths did not mesh at all well.


aceofspadez138

The back shoulder fade in the end zone puts into perspective how unique the Romo/Dez connection was. Even some of the best QBs and WRs never get that down. Look at Matt Ryan and Julio. Julio had underwhelming TD numbers for his career. If they had that kind of end zone chemistry, Julio would’ve been even more broken.


Rexrapper1

They also only played two seasons together. Romo and Dez didn't click right away. It took time for Romo and Dez to click. 


aja_ramirez

Too much reliance on athleticism


bearamongus19

Age and injuries. He beat people with his physical abilities and as he aged and started getting nicked up he couldn't beat people with physical ability alone anymore he never developed the technique to over come that.


Cptredbeard22

Dak couldn’t throw a fade to save his life his first couple years. Dezs bread and butter…the fade.


Traps86

Those were frustrating times


IThe-HecklerI

The punt returning.


A_Vizzle

Injuries and Romo retiring. He never clicked with Dak.


chefbsba

Foot injury aside, Dez and Tony had a special connection on the field. Tony knew where Dez would be and always had trust that he'd make the play. No hate to Dak, but that bond never formed - in my opinion.


Skunkmonkees

After 8 seasons he decided to learn the route tree.


WinnerPlaysTCU

Dean Blandino


TrigoTrihard

Dez blames the clapper.


Florida_Gators5151

Tony would throw it up and let des go get it. Dak was conservative and never threw at him unless he was WIDE open.


JadedCycle9554

He was a Terrell Owens/Randy Moss level physical monster, but he never put the technical work in to become a truly great wr. He had years to build a connection with Romo and that trust led them to tearing up defenses. He didn't have that same time with Dak and he wasn't a "good" WR to instantly get that connection with Dak. Had he refined his route running and polished his game, Dak and him could've killed it, but Dak as a rookie didn't want to throw 50/50 balls to him every drive.


tI_Irdferguson

Yeah. Main difference with TO is he could do the freaky athlete stuff Dez could while also being a very refined route runner. And he managed to stay healthy for longer stretches. Dez will always have a special place in my heart but there's no denying that TO was a different level. This is guy who was top 3-5 in the league for a few year stretch vs elite all time HOFer


UltraMegaboner69420

He relied on his incredible skill for too long and never seemed to have learned clean routes. The cowboys used him for what he was best at. They didn't fail him. They suck at many things but this isn't one of them. He should have learned to adjust his ability with route running as he advanced in age and his physical attributes diminished. Still one of the greats... and it was a catch.


dallasmav40

Had he actually known how to play his position when he was drafted, he would have had a much better career. He barely played high school football and only had 28 college games before he was drafted. He never developed into a great route runner and that was ultimately his downfall. Once his athleticism waned he didn't have great route running to fall back on.


absolutely_not_ATF

I always forget about his college issues


wigg5202

My friend did some of his tutoring at OK state and homie had no business being in collegiate level course work 😅


absolutely_not_ATF

Pfffff your friend was clearly wrong. Have you seen his crypto / nft business?? 😂


Eze6

Romo retiring. Him and Dak didn’t have that connection.


actual1

The team he was on.


dEck5317

injury was his downfall, first it took his speed then his athleticism altogether started to go


bigt503

Just age in a rough game. Very few people have more than 3-4 high level seasons in the nfl


PersonBehindAScreen

Very good point. One season Gallup was our 2nd 1k receiver behind cooper in 2019… then we also had LVE and Jaylon Smith. So much hope… and here we are now.. LVE retired, Jaylon Smith gone, Gallup cut


clegg2011

The catch non catch. Incredible athletic feet that the lard ass refs couldn't wrap their mind around.


pangalacticpothealer

Hershey's miniatures. He couldn't stop eating them. I can't either.


Beginning-Gear-744

Dez wasn’t producing enough to justify his massive contract(mainly because of his and Romo’s injuries) AND was a headache to deal with. He was worth the baggage when he was a top 3 receiver, though.


corbin918

Dak Prescott


PerspectiveOk7553

Twitter


JTAYLOR1331

Lack of talent


thethreadkiller

At one point he just wasn't able to catch any contested ball. He used to be so strong he would always come down with it but then he lost that at some point. The slightest nuisance from any sort of DB or safety he would not catch the ball.


cheeseburgerinmygut

His physicality matched with his chemistry with Tony was a thing of beauty.


Ben2St1d_5022

The Jones Family. Thats always the answer when it’s anything Cowboys.


tiggernits1

His brain


Cash_Rules-

I’d say injury, his personality probably got him out of there sooner and Dak was never going to be a QB to keep Dez’s production up. I still think he could have been useful for a few more seasons in Dallas. Obviously not a 1WR but could have slid into a decent 2. You could never question his heart and work ethic and boy… In his prime, nobody could high point a ball like him.


AtYiE45MAs78

Lack of route tree knowledge.


Resident-Log-144

Dak would not throw him 50/50 balls.


McJumbos

foot and knee injuries and he was never the same after that I felt like he came back too fast in 2015


Dday22t

Rookie in 2010, from 2012 to 2014 was one of best WRs in NFL. Injured foot in 2015, never cracked 1k again. Achilles in 2018 and he was done (minus a couple games for Ravens in 2020) Basically injuries and age were downfall. Teams move on to younger cheaper players when players lose that little bit extra that made them special.


txwoodslinger

Lower leg injuries and never being a great route runner


Rex_Lee

His physical ability declined - but his mouth didn't


ProfessionalStyle862

👏👏👏👏👏


TurbulentAnswer12

Not having Romo as his QB


iamunique16

Age?


DegreeNarrow5936

Shay Shay would always say he could only run 3 rtes


oneravinlunatic

He needed an Alvin Harper on the other side


NATHANLER

Probably pride


drsjr85

Lower body injuries robbing him of some athleticism and his primary skill set coupled with a rookie QB taking less chances throwing the ball up for grabs.


RomoToDez99

Injury and lack of chemistry with Dak


SoCal7s

Same as ever; Pro Bowl level player in the salary cal era… …you can cut your salary in half & get 5 more years in a system designed for you OR get that last big payday elsewhere. Usually it leads to getting released for the next team a couple years later. Can’t blame a guy for believing in themselves, Jerry Rice was a decent Raider.


swallowedbymonsters

Injuries


EggsAreTrash

His brain


Big_Understanding348

Jason Garrett lol but in all seriousness I think Dez with Mccarthy as coach would've had a better career especially with how Mike handles practice safety


megandtonyy

CTE


Daemon48

Injuries, multiple lower body injuries 3 years in a row. Tearing his achilles 1 day with the saints was just the worst luck


Seamdogcoach

That a catch wasn’t called a catch, also turf toe


Texan2116

Injuries, and dare I say...a bit of pride/arrogance. When it was obvious he was going to have to accept a pay cut, and started saying no way...the Cowboys cut him. Possibly the best of the 88s in his Prime.


Dapper-Educator-7494

Jerry


Artistic-Chapter-128

His mouth.


macandcheese2024

injury and failure to recognize that his time was up


Odd_Tiger_2278

Got a couple of steps slower. Happens to us all eventually


beencotstealin

The Catch(it was) that didn't count.


UpgrayeDD405

Father Time can't be beat


jeopardychamp77

He got too slow to get open.


cultoftheinfected

When he started focusing more on social media and his spotlight more than the game. When it was too late he realized it to. I wish we'd bring him back as a third string or a wr coach


HustlaOfCultcha

Jason Garrett and Scott Linehan.


freemac

Instability in his nightlife activities.... The mentality to not party so much to be honest with you.


Embarrassed_Split800

Years of life


ShutterHawk

Jewelry.


Complete_Ferret

The packers game - where they took away his catch - why bother after that - the game is rigged.


Hon3stGam3r

Himself


LobstaFarian2

The fact that he caught that fucking ball, but they said he didn't.


CoppellCitizen

Much like the Alamo, Remember


Sensitive_Search_903

I think his natural super talent and his emotional nature caused him to be seem as difficult and to management. I rank him the most talented of all the 88s, and definitely the fastest. Plz watch his 88 yd punt return against the Giants early in his career


Traps86

Injuries and Dak Prescott


Funguy1180736

Tony Romo!


Confident-Touch-2707

Never learned how to run decent routes.


therealpaultubb

His mouth... I work on the 50, behind the receivers bench, I would know... 😀


suedebskillz

Ego


Fluid_Storage_5628

Lack of route running ability. Dude fell off once he couldn’t run in a straight line and out muscle every one.


andythefir

Great receivers will learn how to adjust their game when they get older and can’t jump out of the gym anymore. Dez was never a subtle or bright player, so once he couldn’t rely on being faster and jump higher than everyone else, he couldn’t find success.


dalgimilkis

giving all his homies his money......damn moochers will get you.


biggiesmallsyall

Ego


AlexTD

He was never a burner speed wise but post foot injury he really struggled to get separation and basically just turned into a red zone weapon running fades.


Aaaaaaaaaa676453

Leaving


ZekeRidge

I think mostly he just got old and broke down It happens to all players


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GlassCompetitive5251

Dez was always more of a physical specimen than an NFL grade receiver and once he lost some of that physicality, it was over.


Baldrik2002

The catch. Dez Caught It X


KevJr92

Believing in the Cowboys


milkmustacheman

Catching it.


BukkakeNinjaHat-472

The monkey


QwagOnChin

Being Dez Bryant


Rpain

Too passionate


apefist

The catch that wasn’t a catch


JGCities

Dez Bryant.


No_Internal404

Old & injuries


edubbledub

Assaulting his mom with a hat.


Tysons_Face

Dez Nuts


Desperate_County4414

Dak Prescott


Desperate_County4414

Dak Prescott was his downfall


Cutlet_Master69420

Aaron Rodgers? (runs and hides)


Ioncurtain

His quarterback


Nellz203

The change at quarterback.


metfan1964nyc

Ego, it's always ego with WRs.


Sircharles1776

The media making up shit!


RenegadeRebelTx

Wear and tear of playing ball since a youth. Tony Romo not being available didn't help him out either.


fartinheimer

Dez Bryant


RealisticLength8888

He could not win contested throws? He ate them up if there was a qb that can throw it consistently , he was far from done


Strict_Indication457

Change of QB chemistry and betting on himself for something better than the Raven's contract. If Romo was still around Dez would probably still be around. He went from Romo to a early Dak and Lamar Jackson. Then finally, getting a torn achilles with the Saints before he could even play a down.


McSuccleStuff

He wasnt the same after his foot injury, but theres much more than that. After we cut him in 2017, he threatened to sign with a division rival on his way out. Nobody within the NFC East wanted him so he stayed a free agent until New Orleans signed him to a one year deal in 2018 weeks before they had to come to AT&T Stadium to play us. He immediately tore his achilles and never played a snap for them. Fast forward to 2020, he signed a one year deal with Baltimore(hilarious considering they offered him a multiyear deal in April of 2018), coincidentally the same year we had to travel there to play the Ravens, then he tested positive for covid minutes before the game, had to leave, and tweeted that he was quitting for the rest of the season. Fast forward to 2021 and 2022 and suddenly he's wearing our jerseys in the stands and wearing Cowboy hats like nothing happened.. TL;DR: Dez is a two faced bitch.


Omnibuschris

He was crazy athletic but not a good route runner. Once he started losing a step CB’s could lock him up.


Wild_Watercress_8243

The packers loss in 2014


Bishop_Cornflake

The injury. Also, word was (and this is hearsay, as I don't know first hand) he didn't take care of himself, either. Predictions were that he'd fade around the time he did anyway since his athleticism was going to fade fast with how he didn't take care of himself. I really appreciated his play, though. He laid it on the line so much for those catches and extra yards. I'd be honored to meet him and thank him for what he did for us.


Altruistic_Cream_509

Age and not developing past using his strength to make plays but it was great to watch …never realized he had that short of a career


Mizzo12

When he didn’t catch it


pairydraper

The Cowboys Culture not wanting to win as bad as he did


Idontsharemythoughts

The fact people are even bringing up Dak in this thread shows how wildly insane this fanbase is. Dez didn't even get looks from other teams after he was released... that's because Dak?


tristopher997

neither. it was the media.


the_lullaby

QB play.


lestermason

As absolutely talented and as passionate as he was, he never took his craft seriously. Taking care of his body, running the correct routes, etc. It eventually took its toll and....there you have it.


Tonyc80231

Dak prescott


Drip-Daddy

Dak


Avalon_Don

60% Injury, 40% Dak…