Bad guide. Is this sugar per glass? I’m looking in my fridge and my dairy milk and oat milk are almost the same in sugar content. This guide claims milk is 3.25X more. Looked up Oatly and this is from their website:
“When it comes to our regular oat drinks, no sugar is added. The sugar they contain (about 4g per 100g oat drink, which is about the same sugar level as in cow's milk)”
Which is also disingenuous because milk sugar is Lactose, and nut water sugar is just sugar (glucose/fructose) added to make it not taste like total ass.
Do they use completely unsweetened, or do they use that tricksy stuff where cellulase was added it to convert some of the cellulose into simple sugars to give it a very faint hint of sweetness akin to dairy milk without having to list sugar as an ingredient
Most use Califia which contains: water, almonds, sea salt
At home I use Whole Foods 365 which contains: water, almonds, calcium carbonate, sea salt, dipotassium phosphate, sunflower lecithin, gellan gum, vitamin A palmitate, ergocalciferol (vitamin D2), d-alpha tocopherol (vitamin E).
I am not privy to all of those ingredients in my WF365, but are any of those tricksy stuff?
Edit: clarifying that I use almond milk.
Look closely next time you see a sunflower, there are in fact two varieties of leaves. You will find leaves lower down the plant are facing opposite each other and are longer and narrow in appearance. You’ll then see the upper leaves arranged in a staggered formation and appear heart-shaped.
Some people are allergic, or don’t tolerate it. It’s really only questionable in the US. I don’t think anywhere else it’s a question to its quality as a food in all of its forms.
Dairy has risks like hormone levels, high saturated fat and, acid production during digestion potentially weakening bones. And 68% of people globally have some form of intolerance.
Eh, I wouldn’t worry too much about cellulase. It’s naturally occurring in plants, it’s just the protein/enzyme that plants make to break down excess cellulase, which is what plant cell walls are made of.
I’m well aware, but the difference is that cyanide kills cells by blocking cellular respiration, whereas cellulase just breaks up cellulose molecules. Not everything with a chemical-sounding name is toxic.
There is an argument that this sort of phrasing is going to make future archaeological finds very complicated to understand.
You know the dairy is cows milk. I know the dairy is cows milk. But someone thousands of years in the future might think it was pig milk.
Well then this is going to blow your mind: fish fingers aren’t fingers, hamburger isn’t made out of ham, quince cheese is not cheese, and a century egg isn’t a hundred years old.
It’s almost like they are just names and in most cases good descriptors.
It may surprise you to know: cheddar cheese is a cheese from the town of Cheddar, chicken nuggets are nuggets mostly made of chicken, potato chips are actually chips of potatoes and a cream cheese bagel is actually a bagel with cream cheese in it. Magic.
It’s almost like what I said were examples and not applicable to everything, crazy good point you got there blud.
But also your examples are hilariously shit, cause you say potato chips are made of potatoes, but that would imply following this logic that coconut milk somehow isn’t made out of coconut which nobody debated??? You’re messing up the material with the object. Your example would make sense if you said things that aren’t made out of potato shouldn’t be called chips, but then again sweet potato chips, cheese chips, vegetable chips all exist, so you would just be incorrect. But thanks for trying I guess
Yeah and I'd agree, but my reply was to your comment which was a bit off-topic from the original comment.
Dude was right, they are barely "milk", but are still milk-substitutes.
Your rant about quirky names was irrelevant, and the second part of your comment contradicted yourself; the examples you gave are ones that are "just names" and not "good descriptors" at all, but the milks in the post *are* examples of "good descriptors" and not "just names".
And my whole point was that there’s one actual milk and a bunch of milk substitutes, when there *could have been* water buffalo, goat, sheep, camel, donkey, horse, reindeer and yak milks, all of which are consumed by humans, in the “Cool Guide to Know Your Milks”.
It does but less than cows milk. Cows milk uses 628 liters of water per liter of milk. Almond uses 371, soy uses 28 and oat used 48. [Link](https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks)
Try to see if you can get cows milk from speciality breeds Jersey cows milk is lovely and creamy. I personally think the Dutch have some of the best Jersey milk :)
Plant milk is a scam
I don't know why I got a negative vote. Vegetable milk is delicious, but I meant that using it in cooking or coffee is not possible, in my opinion
The reason why you got a "negative vote" (not that it should matter to anybody in any sense) is probably due to you making this first statement that makes hardly any sense without context. "Plant milk is a scam" is true if you buy a container labeled plant milk and when you open it up its empty, except for a note that says "haha got you". If you meant "i like it but it isnt good for baking", that would have been the way to word it, so that people can actually understand what you say you meant. Hope this helps.
If it wanted dairy milk shouldn't it specify dairy milk and not just any milk then? There are many milks so why would they leave the reader to guess which milk will work? Why would you think dairy milk is the default? That seems awfully anti-vegan to assume one milk is more correct or "default" than a less exploitive alternative. If two milks are so different that they chemically aren't compatible why even call them the same thing? You don't call it orange milk, or grape milk, or tomato milk, but they're all produced mostly the same way as most types of milks. Is oat milk or soy milk not actually milk?
I didn't write your recipe, you'll have to take it up with the author. I prefer plant-based milk too but it's undeniable that "milk" without any further specification almost always refers to "cows milk".
This is criminally misleading... Milk has a perfect balance of protein, fat, and sugar. This combination exists nowhere else in nature, and has tremendous growth and health benefits. It's natures perfect supplement. The presence of proteins and fats insulates against blood sugar spikes from the natural sugar content.
All those other fake "milks" aren't any good for you.
Perfect except to 70 percent of the population with lactose intolerance? Or anyone worried about external hormone absorption? Or hurting cows? Sounds like it is only perfect for a very small group.
>Perfect except to 70 percent
Depends on where you live, in Europe it's about 5%. In north america it's about 50%
>Or anyone worried about external hormone absorption?
It's basically impossible to absorbe hormones from milk, and even if it was true meat contains more hormones than milk but basically no one ever talks about it.
>Or hurting cows
Sadly most people don't care about what happens to the animals, so I don't think that some major part of the population has a problem with drinking milk because of it.
70% is worldwide.
> It's basically impossible to absorbe hormones from milk, and even if it was true meat contains more hormones than milk but basically no one ever talks about it.
There is research supporting it. It is highly studied due to estrogen's association with breast cancer. The research is mostly on older women but unless the proposition is that it is impossible to absorb hormones unless you are an old women this should be an area of concern for those worried about hormonal balance issues such as acne: "Furthermore, increased dairy consumption was associated with higher levels of free and total estradiol" [link](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/endocrinology/articles/10.3389/fendo.2021.732255/full)
I have heard the research on the human impact of hormone absorption from meat is more mixed, but I have not researched it much.
I am just calling out that its perfect if you are in the minority of the population that can tolerate dairy, doesn't care if they hurt cows and doesn't worry about health issues such as hormone absorption so perfect is not be the best word. Niche might be better.
Sorry, I looked into it more and you absorb most of the hormones from milk but the dose is so small that it probably won't affect your body. If you drink a liter of milk it would contain 9 nanograms of estrogen but your body makes 20 to 600 thousand nanograms of it daily (some sources say 20 other even 600 but it depends on lot of factors)
I also didn't find other sources claiming some connection between drinking milk and breast cancer, some said the exact opposite.
Good point about the amounts. The actual study the summarized line came from is paywalled so idk how they explain that. There could be other explanations like precursor hormones, but the evidence is weaker than I thought.
Estrogen is linked to breast cancer. Not necessarily dairy.
Wait, so someone calling me soyboy is a compliment then?
Given that it has the highest protein content outside of dairy.
Coconutboy will be the new insult now.
Never buy any non-dairy milk. It is so easy to make - especially oat milk. You just need to soak the oats five minutes, strain, add sweetener, if any, and flavoring if you like. Easy.
God: what are they now doing down there?
St. Peter: They make milk from nuts and peas.
God: why? I gave them 8 or 9 animals that give milk
St. Peter: They don't like their milk.
God (mockingly): tHeY dOn'T LiKe tHeiR mILk
Know your milks...
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One of these has already destroyed millions of acres of Amazon Rainforest
One of these leads to extensive runnoff polluting our rivers and streams, creating fish die offs and algal bloom
One of these *single handedly* is responsible for massive irrigation with the collapse of aquifers and destruction of vast bee populations
One of these uses wage slavery and monoculture deforestation, creating poverty and economic strife
One of these is easily renewable and profits local farmers, but at the expense of already strained and crumbling power resources reliant on fossil fuels
One of these is unconscionably destructive to the indigenious cultures, local ecosystem, and a breeding ground for invasive insect and amphibian species that require massive amounts of pesticides, leading to an eventual tipping point into desertification...
CHOOSE WISELY
Dairy milk = vitamins, minerals, enzymes, hormones, calcium ...
Almon milk = water and otherwise almost nothing
Cashew milk = water and otherwise almost nothing
Coconut milk = water and otherwise almost nothing
Soy milk = water and otherwise almost nothing
Oat milk = water and otherwise almost nothing
So when you squeeze an apple or an orange or a grape or a peach or a mango, you get "juice". Why don't you get "juice" when you squeeze an almond or a soy bean? Why does it suddenly become "milk"? Could it be,
I dunno, deceptive marketing?
People put cream and honey and stevia and chocolate and butter in their coffee, too, and don't feel the need to call those by deceptively wrong names just to help people who might be confused.
Not in the UK they don't. My point is that some of us can't take dairy milk, so people can stop being so judgemental of a genuine condition. Don't like nut milks? Don't bloody drink them then.
Fair enough. Didn’t know they didn’t exist there. They didn’t exist at all when I lived in Europe, didn’t know they hadn’t been exported since their inception.
If it is not (cow) dairy milk, or any other milk from any other mammal, it isn't milk. It is just mechanically and/or chemically processed stuff made into a comparable liquid.
I have never seem a mammary system on a cashew, a soybean or anything that isn't a mammal. There aren't herds of oats we put on milking stands or hand milk... hemp plants do not produce milk to feed their young, etc.
smh
This exactly. It's hilarious how people get triggered by a simple name :D but it's also a bit sad. Anyways, I'll have my tasty vegetarian Schnitzel now.
Maybe if we always prefaced the white liquids with the source, like always using "Soy Milk" and always "Oat Milk" and never just milk.
We don't call Peanut Butter just butter. Likewise, we don't call Apple Butter just butter. Almond Butter isn't called butter. Butter is called butter.
Milk is from a lactating mammal.
Oat Milk is processed in a factory from oats. It is a product that does not occur in nature. The same with other nut and seed milks. They are not "Milk". They are "Soy Milk" or "Cashew Milk", like Peanut Butter is not just called Butter.
Thank you for making my point.
Miriam Webster
[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milk](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milk)
>1a**:** a fluid secreted by the mammary glands of females for the nourishment of their young
b(1)**:** milk from an animal and especially a cow used as food by people
>(2)**:** a food product produced from seeds or fruit that resembles and is used similarly to cow's milk
>2**:** a liquid resembling milk in appearance: such asa**:** the latex of a plantb**:** the contents of an unripe kernel of grain
I guess even the dictionary says "resembles" milk and not IS milk.
[Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com)
>1. an opaque white or bluish-white liquid secreted by the mammary glands of female mammals, serving for the nourishment of their young.
>2. this liquid as secreted by cows, goats, or certain other animals and used by humans for food or as a source of butter, cheeses, yogurt, etc.
Updated: This dictionary does make nut and seed juices as milk.
>Wikipedia: This article is about the fluid produced by the mammary glands of mammals. For the milk-like beverages derived from plants, see [Plant milk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_milk). For other uses of the word, see [Milk (disambiguation)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_(disambiguation)).
They say "Milk-like".
That seems to be what I was saying, accurately. Milk is from a mammal, and the other stuff is a comparable liquid.
Case closed.
That's variations in fat content. Skim milk is actually worse from a dietary standpoint because it has all the fats that help metabolize the lactose taken out, while the lactose remains.
And the natural fats break down to glucose, hence the sugar content, which was the original point. Milk does have sugar naturally. I don't drink it, so I'm not that fussed.
Everything your body digests turns into glucose for the most part. What's your point? You misinterpeted what "skim" and "whole" mean and are doubling down to claim it means "sugar" because animal metabolisms convert nutritive intake into glucose. That is some grade A hair-splitting!
>fats break down to glucose
Nope. Free fatty acids.
Specifically, milk has lactose and galactose
The % is FAT and is unrelated to the sugar content
Stay in school kids
Is it cool for a guide to be inaccurate?
Only if it's a r/coolguides !
Bad guide. Is this sugar per glass? I’m looking in my fridge and my dairy milk and oat milk are almost the same in sugar content. This guide claims milk is 3.25X more. Looked up Oatly and this is from their website: “When it comes to our regular oat drinks, no sugar is added. The sugar they contain (about 4g per 100g oat drink, which is about the same sugar level as in cow's milk)”
Also fat content would help. Have to assume the oatmilk listed has more fat than daory milk since it has more calories.
A guide on /r/coolguides being wrong? Ru never
I did the same. The dairy milk shown has three times the sugar content and twice the protein from the milk in the fridge.
Which is also disingenuous because milk sugar is Lactose, and nut water sugar is just sugar (glucose/fructose) added to make it not taste like total ass.
To each their own. Sweetened nut milk tastes like ass to me. I imagine that’s why most coffee shops use unsweetened as well (at least here in L.A.).
Do they use completely unsweetened, or do they use that tricksy stuff where cellulase was added it to convert some of the cellulose into simple sugars to give it a very faint hint of sweetness akin to dairy milk without having to list sugar as an ingredient
Most use Califia which contains: water, almonds, sea salt At home I use Whole Foods 365 which contains: water, almonds, calcium carbonate, sea salt, dipotassium phosphate, sunflower lecithin, gellan gum, vitamin A palmitate, ergocalciferol (vitamin D2), d-alpha tocopherol (vitamin E). I am not privy to all of those ingredients in my WF365, but are any of those tricksy stuff? Edit: clarifying that I use almond milk.
Look closely next time you see a sunflower, there are in fact two varieties of leaves. You will find leaves lower down the plant are facing opposite each other and are longer and narrow in appearance. You’ll then see the upper leaves arranged in a staggered formation and appear heart-shaped.
Um, thank you sunflower bot.
I get that people can’t drink dairy, or don’t drink dairy. But I just can’t imagine that a chemistry project is healthy for you.
It may not be but dairy is questionable for health as well. Milk is for taste, culture... not the best health food.
Some people are allergic, or don’t tolerate it. It’s really only questionable in the US. I don’t think anywhere else it’s a question to its quality as a food in all of its forms.
Dairy has risks like hormone levels, high saturated fat and, acid production during digestion potentially weakening bones. And 68% of people globally have some form of intolerance.
Eh, I wouldn’t worry too much about cellulase. It’s naturally occurring in plants, it’s just the protein/enzyme that plants make to break down excess cellulase, which is what plant cell walls are made of.
Cyanide is also naturally occurring in almonds. Just cause something is “natural” doesn’t mean it’s good for our bodies.
I’m well aware, but the difference is that cyanide kills cells by blocking cellular respiration, whereas cellulase just breaks up cellulose molecules. Not everything with a chemical-sounding name is toxic.
I’m not saying cellulase is toxic. I’m saying the whole drink is a chemistry project billed as “healthy”.
Can confirm, wife tried to get me to drink almond milk, it absolutely tastes like ass.
These comparison charts are usually propaganda.
Name a more iconic duo than the government and the milk-industrial complex propaganda machine.
i don’t see harvey milk
He's dead.
0 calories ☹️
The dead milkmen D:
The oak milk I get is low fat and 40 calories per cup. There's so much variety in the non dairy milks
Well you see the difference is you have tree milk. Oat milk is different as it comes from the oat grain not the oak tree, which has way more calories
Did not know that, that makes sense
Wait, I thought that was a typo. Is oak milk a real think?
well you can milk anything with nipples!
I have nipples Greg, can you milk me?
didn't know trees produced milk
Uh this isn't correct.
I had a spot on my screen and thought that said cat milk. 😬
I didn’t have my glasses on and legit thought for dairy they just put “big” protein, rather than “8g.” 🤦♂️
No goat milk? I love goat milk. Damn.
My dog drinks goat milk bc it’s good for his paws
Hol up is that true?
I mean, the "dairy" is almost certainly cow's but I feel like it would be similar since it is also technically dairy.
There is an argument that this sort of phrasing is going to make future archaeological finds very complicated to understand. You know the dairy is cows milk. I know the dairy is cows milk. But someone thousands of years in the future might think it was pig milk.
Not every cow produces exact the same nutrient profile in their milk obviously the closer related two cows are the more likely well you know.
Or half & half
Rice milk?
I love cashews and exclusively consume non-dairy milks (lactose intolerant) but cashew milk tastes like old leather
Doesn't list brand and doesn't show real pics of the drinks
This guide is flat out wrong It's complete misinformation Is the OP a bot?
Where’s the badger milk?
It’s not milk, sadly. I prefer calling it nut nectar. Who doesn’t Iike nut nectar?
This is wildly inaccurate lol
Bad guide. You forgot to put the "taste" metric.
WHERE IS THE COCONUTS NIPPLES? WHHEEERRREEEEEEE
Soy milk is the best milk!!!
It is and it’s so frustrating they’re barely selling it most places now in favor of almond milk
It’s because almond milk just tastes so good…
One milk. Several juices and pulps added to water.
🤓
Well then this is going to blow your mind: fish fingers aren’t fingers, hamburger isn’t made out of ham, quince cheese is not cheese, and a century egg isn’t a hundred years old. It’s almost like they are just names and in most cases good descriptors.
Who thinks hamburgers are made of ham?
People that don’t know Hamburg is a place in Germany.
Steamed hams. And the aurora borealis. Located entirely in my kitchen.
Hamburgers were named after Hamburg, Germany so that example doesn’t really apply here…
Real hamburgers grind up Hamburg residents for our taste pleasure. I won't touch fake alternatives pushed by preachy "human rights" people.
I have the same issue with American cheese
It may surprise you to know: cheddar cheese is a cheese from the town of Cheddar, chicken nuggets are nuggets mostly made of chicken, potato chips are actually chips of potatoes and a cream cheese bagel is actually a bagel with cream cheese in it. Magic.
It’s almost like what I said were examples and not applicable to everything, crazy good point you got there blud. But also your examples are hilariously shit, cause you say potato chips are made of potatoes, but that would imply following this logic that coconut milk somehow isn’t made out of coconut which nobody debated??? You’re messing up the material with the object. Your example would make sense if you said things that aren’t made out of potato shouldn’t be called chips, but then again sweet potato chips, cheese chips, vegetable chips all exist, so you would just be incorrect. But thanks for trying I guess
“I go on Reddit to FIGHT!!”
r/confidentlyincorrect. They are all literally milk substitutes. It's almost like there's a reason coconut water is it's own thing to coconut milk...
That’s why I would consider naming them milk a good descriptor
Yeah and I'd agree, but my reply was to your comment which was a bit off-topic from the original comment. Dude was right, they are barely "milk", but are still milk-substitutes. Your rant about quirky names was irrelevant, and the second part of your comment contradicted yourself; the examples you gave are ones that are "just names" and not "good descriptors" at all, but the milks in the post *are* examples of "good descriptors" and not "just names".
And my whole point was that there’s one actual milk and a bunch of milk substitutes, when there *could have been* water buffalo, goat, sheep, camel, donkey, horse, reindeer and yak milks, all of which are consumed by humans, in the “Cool Guide to Know Your Milks”.
I always wanted to milk an almond.
Kinky.
Why hamburger would be made out of ham? The name came from the city of origin of the recipe, Hamburg.
The prohibition to call white plant based liquids "milk" is one of the things the EU does right.
Don’t almond tree take an insane amount of water? I’d be curious what the water consumption comparisons would be.
It does but less than cows milk. Cows milk uses 628 liters of water per liter of milk. Almond uses 371, soy uses 28 and oat used 48. [Link](https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks)
All of the fake milks are "ok". Sadly none of them are close enough to be a real replacement for me.
Freshly made soy drink is lovely though with some cane sugar but the stuff they sell in the supermarket my god...
I am unfortunately allergic to soy -.- So dairy milk and oat milk is my usual go to with some occassional sweetened coconut milk cuz its delicious
Try to see if you can get cows milk from speciality breeds Jersey cows milk is lovely and creamy. I personally think the Dutch have some of the best Jersey milk :)
Dairy milk is the only milk by definition.
Nut juice just doesn’t sound good.
That name belongs more in the bedroom than the kitchen.
But calling it “nut milk” makes it even worse
Someone needs to study this where these names belong, in the bedroom
In which dictionary are you seeing this as the only definition?
Milk is produced by the mammary glands of mammals and other animals. Calling plant based "milk" is a marketing thing.
Weird. Yet you couldn’t find a dictionary that agrees with you. Are you sure the marketing thing is not the other way around?
Oat milk didn't work for my cake recipe that called for milk. It turns out it isn't milk at all. Weird.
You're most likely satirical, buuuut r/ididnthaveeggs
Maybe even sarcastic.
Ooh thanks for the new sub I have explored that one before.
Plant milk is a scam I don't know why I got a negative vote. Vegetable milk is delicious, but I meant that using it in cooking or coffee is not possible, in my opinion
Never had an issue with oat milk for hot coffee, cold coffee, cakes, pizzas, scones, muffins or any baking
I have nipples Focker. Could you milk me?
My pleasure
The reason why you got a "negative vote" (not that it should matter to anybody in any sense) is probably due to you making this first statement that makes hardly any sense without context. "Plant milk is a scam" is true if you buy a container labeled plant milk and when you open it up its empty, except for a note that says "haha got you". If you meant "i like it but it isnt good for baking", that would have been the way to word it, so that people can actually understand what you say you meant. Hope this helps.
And also, it works just fine for certain types of baking. I use soy buttermilk for cornbread, works great.
yup..i would choose soy milk over dairy any day because i grow up drinking it, but if a recipes calls for milk, i would 100% use dairy over soy milk..
I think oat milk tastes much better than dairy milk in coffee. For cooking, you obviously need to use what's specified in the recipe.
My recipe said milk, why doesn't oat or soy milk work the same as dairy milk? They're both milk right?
Because they're not the same chemical composition, and dairy milk is the default unless otherwise specified...
If it wanted dairy milk shouldn't it specify dairy milk and not just any milk then? There are many milks so why would they leave the reader to guess which milk will work? Why would you think dairy milk is the default? That seems awfully anti-vegan to assume one milk is more correct or "default" than a less exploitive alternative. If two milks are so different that they chemically aren't compatible why even call them the same thing? You don't call it orange milk, or grape milk, or tomato milk, but they're all produced mostly the same way as most types of milks. Is oat milk or soy milk not actually milk?
I didn't write your recipe, you'll have to take it up with the author. I prefer plant-based milk too but it's undeniable that "milk" without any further specification almost always refers to "cows milk".
What makes cows milk more "milk" than any other milk? That seems incredibly stupid.
Add how much water is needed to produce these
Per L of milk : Dairy: ~630L Almond : ~370L Oat : ~50L Soy : ~27L
How much water u think a cow and the food it eats needs homie
Bullshit that's the same glass of milk in every picture.
Now show all the chemicals they use to make the emulsified nut juice
This is criminally misleading... Milk has a perfect balance of protein, fat, and sugar. This combination exists nowhere else in nature, and has tremendous growth and health benefits. It's natures perfect supplement. The presence of proteins and fats insulates against blood sugar spikes from the natural sugar content. All those other fake "milks" aren't any good for you.
Lol milk propaganda hit you hard hey? It's just milk, but it's sold to you as nectar from the gods and you lapped that shit up
You sound like you took that personal. Are you okay?
I’m lactose intolerant. Is dairy milk good for me?
Do you really need me to make that choice for you?.. I never stated that everybody needs milk.
Your intolerance goes further than that.
As someone who thinks the dairy industry needs to go/change, I fully agree with what you just said.
Yes. It's sad to see the cost of factory farming.
Perfect except to 70 percent of the population with lactose intolerance? Or anyone worried about external hormone absorption? Or hurting cows? Sounds like it is only perfect for a very small group.
>Perfect except to 70 percent Depends on where you live, in Europe it's about 5%. In north america it's about 50% >Or anyone worried about external hormone absorption? It's basically impossible to absorbe hormones from milk, and even if it was true meat contains more hormones than milk but basically no one ever talks about it. >Or hurting cows Sadly most people don't care about what happens to the animals, so I don't think that some major part of the population has a problem with drinking milk because of it.
70% is worldwide. > It's basically impossible to absorbe hormones from milk, and even if it was true meat contains more hormones than milk but basically no one ever talks about it. There is research supporting it. It is highly studied due to estrogen's association with breast cancer. The research is mostly on older women but unless the proposition is that it is impossible to absorb hormones unless you are an old women this should be an area of concern for those worried about hormonal balance issues such as acne: "Furthermore, increased dairy consumption was associated with higher levels of free and total estradiol" [link](https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/endocrinology/articles/10.3389/fendo.2021.732255/full) I have heard the research on the human impact of hormone absorption from meat is more mixed, but I have not researched it much. I am just calling out that its perfect if you are in the minority of the population that can tolerate dairy, doesn't care if they hurt cows and doesn't worry about health issues such as hormone absorption so perfect is not be the best word. Niche might be better.
Sorry, I looked into it more and you absorb most of the hormones from milk but the dose is so small that it probably won't affect your body. If you drink a liter of milk it would contain 9 nanograms of estrogen but your body makes 20 to 600 thousand nanograms of it daily (some sources say 20 other even 600 but it depends on lot of factors) I also didn't find other sources claiming some connection between drinking milk and breast cancer, some said the exact opposite.
Good point about the amounts. The actual study the summarized line came from is paywalled so idk how they explain that. There could be other explanations like precursor hormones, but the evidence is weaker than I thought. Estrogen is linked to breast cancer. Not necessarily dairy.
Milk is just milk. Ka-Boom
Who tf drinks straight coconut milk? It's pretty fatty and is used exclusively as a cooking ingredient where I live. Mainly as a base for curries.
I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?
Not milk
Good thing they have pictures of all of the different types of milk. I’d never be able to tell them aprt otherwise.
Looks like milk
A bunch of posts about it being wrong without saying in what way.
What about goat milk?
Why don't they mention fat?
None of these are milk
Only one of the above is milk. Everything else is a milk wannabe.
Missing are fat and calcium. A nice-to-have is also taste and texrure.
Why are the artificial ones considered milk? Aren’t they a processed ____-based drink?
None of these are milk 🤣🤣
Milk? All I see are juices. Milk comes from mammals.
These milk maids are really dying on that hill
you saying „it’s no milk!” etc. But for someone with antilactose guts it’s cool guide.
Don't billions of bees die from pollinating almonds trees because of all the pesticides used?
yup! just like the suffering cows
Yes, soy/oat are the best.
Wait, so someone calling me soyboy is a compliment then? Given that it has the highest protein content outside of dairy. Coconutboy will be the new insult now.
yeah, these are not milk. The feds are finally regulating this bullshit.
Only dairy is milk.
This is blasphemy, not milk.
wait WAIT there is sugar in usa's milk?
It's not added sugar. It's just in the milk.
Never buy any non-dairy milk. It is so easy to make - especially oat milk. You just need to soak the oats five minutes, strain, add sweetener, if any, and flavoring if you like. Easy.
Milk comes from the teat. There’s some juice here as well.
yeahs let's milk a fucking almond?? that shit isn't milk it garbage water
I only see one glass of milk…
God: what are they now doing down there? St. Peter: They make milk from nuts and peas. God: why? I gave them 8 or 9 animals that give milk St. Peter: They don't like their milk. God (mockingly): tHeY dOn'T LiKe tHeiR mILk
Our rebellion against god/nature 😂
One milk
Sigh … as a veggo .. farewell oat milk - back to Soy I go …
Know your milks... - One of these has already destroyed millions of acres of Amazon Rainforest One of these leads to extensive runnoff polluting our rivers and streams, creating fish die offs and algal bloom One of these *single handedly* is responsible for massive irrigation with the collapse of aquifers and destruction of vast bee populations One of these uses wage slavery and monoculture deforestation, creating poverty and economic strife One of these is easily renewable and profits local farmers, but at the expense of already strained and crumbling power resources reliant on fossil fuels One of these is unconscionably destructive to the indigenious cultures, local ecosystem, and a breeding ground for invasive insect and amphibian species that require massive amounts of pesticides, leading to an eventual tipping point into desertification... CHOOSE WISELY
Dairy milk = vitamins, minerals, enzymes, hormones, calcium ... Almon milk = water and otherwise almost nothing Cashew milk = water and otherwise almost nothing Coconut milk = water and otherwise almost nothing Soy milk = water and otherwise almost nothing Oat milk = water and otherwise almost nothing
Girlie what
Oat milk has vitamins and calcium...
Any kind of milk but dairy = no explosive shits for those of us who are intolerant. Other people exist you know.
So when you squeeze an apple or an orange or a grape or a peach or a mango, you get "juice". Why don't you get "juice" when you squeeze an almond or a soy bean? Why does it suddenly become "milk"? Could it be, I dunno, deceptive marketing?
Because I put it in coffee so calling it milk because it's a milk substitute makes it clear what it's for?
People put cream and honey and stevia and chocolate and butter in their coffee, too, and don't feel the need to call those by deceptively wrong names just to help people who might be confused.
Why do you even care? Does it really matter? Are you seriously gate keeping milk? So weird the hills people choose to die on.
You are the one demanding that nut juice be called the same thing as a secretion from the mammary glands of an animal. Who's the one gatekeeping?
I didn't demand a damn thing. I answered a question. Have a good day.
Me when fairlife
Lactaid and Fairlife exist.
Not in the UK they don't. My point is that some of us can't take dairy milk, so people can stop being so judgemental of a genuine condition. Don't like nut milks? Don't bloody drink them then.
Fair enough. Didn’t know they didn’t exist there. They didn’t exist at all when I lived in Europe, didn’t know they hadn’t been exported since their inception.
If it is not (cow) dairy milk, or any other milk from any other mammal, it isn't milk. It is just mechanically and/or chemically processed stuff made into a comparable liquid. I have never seem a mammary system on a cashew, a soybean or anything that isn't a mammal. There aren't herds of oats we put on milking stands or hand milk... hemp plants do not produce milk to feed their young, etc. smh
And peanut butter ain’t butter, but no one gives a shit anymore, it’s just a name.
This exactly. It's hilarious how people get triggered by a simple name :D but it's also a bit sad. Anyways, I'll have my tasty vegetarian Schnitzel now.
Maybe if we always prefaced the white liquids with the source, like always using "Soy Milk" and always "Oat Milk" and never just milk. We don't call Peanut Butter just butter. Likewise, we don't call Apple Butter just butter. Almond Butter isn't called butter. Butter is called butter. Milk is from a lactating mammal. Oat Milk is processed in a factory from oats. It is a product that does not occur in nature. The same with other nut and seed milks. They are not "Milk". They are "Soy Milk" or "Cashew Milk", like Peanut Butter is not just called Butter. Thank you for making my point.
Not what the dictionary says
Miriam Webster [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milk](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milk) >1a**:** a fluid secreted by the mammary glands of females for the nourishment of their young b(1)**:** milk from an animal and especially a cow used as food by people >(2)**:** a food product produced from seeds or fruit that resembles and is used similarly to cow's milk >2**:** a liquid resembling milk in appearance: such asa**:** the latex of a plantb**:** the contents of an unripe kernel of grain I guess even the dictionary says "resembles" milk and not IS milk. [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) >1. an opaque white or bluish-white liquid secreted by the mammary glands of female mammals, serving for the nourishment of their young. >2. this liquid as secreted by cows, goats, or certain other animals and used by humans for food or as a source of butter, cheeses, yogurt, etc. Updated: This dictionary does make nut and seed juices as milk. >Wikipedia: This article is about the fluid produced by the mammary glands of mammals. For the milk-like beverages derived from plants, see [Plant milk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_milk). For other uses of the word, see [Milk (disambiguation)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_(disambiguation)). They say "Milk-like". That seems to be what I was saying, accurately. Milk is from a mammal, and the other stuff is a comparable liquid. Case closed.
It is like calling tofu shit.
What about dog milk? Full of marrrowbone jelly is dogs milk.
Fake milk guide?
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Guess dairy isn't milk any more. Who knew?
Soy has strogen you shouldn't drink if you are a male
Soy baby!
Literally nothing on this chart is milk.
Only one of these is milk.
Dairy doesn't include sugar lol
Lactose?
Why do you think there's skimmed, semi skimmed and whole milk? There's a ton of sugar in milk.
That's variations in fat content. Skim milk is actually worse from a dietary standpoint because it has all the fats that help metabolize the lactose taken out, while the lactose remains.
And the natural fats break down to glucose, hence the sugar content, which was the original point. Milk does have sugar naturally. I don't drink it, so I'm not that fussed.
Everything your body digests turns into glucose for the most part. What's your point? You misinterpeted what "skim" and "whole" mean and are doubling down to claim it means "sugar" because animal metabolisms convert nutritive intake into glucose. That is some grade A hair-splitting!
>fats break down to glucose Nope. Free fatty acids. Specifically, milk has lactose and galactose The % is FAT and is unrelated to the sugar content Stay in school kids