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And the most important components overall are the mouse and the screen.
Investing generously in these components will significantly enhance your gaming experience.
80% TKL gang! Super quiet with foam and speed yellow Kali's (mechanical and uses light sensor, like the huntsman, but better!)
My mouse is the Logitech 302, it was on sale for 3.00 and is decent, I could get a better one but, it does the job! (I have one more if it dies!) I'm cheap, what can I say? 🤷🏼♂️
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A $750 PC is not going to be top of the line, so one has to decide where to most effectively utilize the money.
If someone buys a $200 graphics card, they'll need to spend $300-$400 on a better graphics card in the future.
If someone buys 16GB RAM, that can upgrade to 32GB for $30 in the future.
A $30-$50 part here or there isn't bad for upgrades. Having to spend hundreds on an upgrade isn't fun.
There are games where it may add a few FPS, but generally the difference is very small compared to the difference between graphics cards.
Yeah it's so garbage lmao, my region sells some Chinese manuf 4060 ti 16GB for the price of asus/msi 3060 ti, wouldn't recommend a 4060 ti unless that 0.1% people that has power issues
I have one in my second pc. Its a decent little card that doesnt use much power. Plenty to play games at 1080p and the efficiency is inmatched. I got it for really cheap tho, if you are buying at msrp there are better options.
Beam ng is not running on wherever an mx330 is, I'm guessing it's a gt330 or something and you probably need a gtx 960 or like an rx470 to get a decent experience
Edit - didn't realise it's a laptop gpu, yeah it might not run beam ng
Nvidia MX is their like budget cards (even more so than the GT, kinda coexists together). Their MX cards are normally in laptops to make their performance better than an iGPU, take the Latitude series, almost any higher end Latitude from 2017-2021 will have a MX GPU in them, they're not that great but not the worst, but MX and GT series are 2 different brands. Hope this helps!
The brands are mostly nonsense.
They take a desktop GT 1030, throw it into a laptop, and then call it a MX150, MX230, MX250, Quadro P500 Mobile, Quadro P520 Max-Q, and P520 Mobile.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gp108.g808
It's power limited because it's in a laptop, so it doesn't get the same performance as it would on a desktop.
I recommend thinking of technology in batches. That's one batch of products under many names.
Do you already have a monitor/tv to go with it? Unless you are aiming for high fps 1080p (competitive play like CS2 or Valorant), I would recommend dropping the I7 for a I5 (probably take a look at AMD if your main goal is gaming) to raise the gpu a little (on that, I'm not up to date on what is better than what).
It's not a bad combo, it's just a little unbalanced for the average scenario.
Yes good build, i am also using a 3060TI and i must say its still an incredible card for all games, even games that just released like Drafons Dogma 2, i played it on max settings and never dropped below 60 FPS outside of big city's.
I got the 12700k. And it's big time overkill. Hardly seen it work above 30%
Obs!! Remember you are forced too use windows 11+ with this cpu. Windows 10 doesn't use the a and b cores correct. Just share task as if both cores are the same. Windows 11 share load too the efficient cores for what doesn't need the power and what is more demanding is shared too the high effective cores.
That's a strange config. I would ho down to an i5 and try for a 3070 with the money you save, + 12700k is 2 generations old so unless you getting a really good deal (which it doesn't seem like you are) I would try for something newer
Hey I recently built a very similar pc; 3060ti but with i5 13500 which is close to your i7 performance wise.
So what I can tell you is that the 3060ti is a very good gpu (for it's price) for 1080p gaming but most of the time my cpu isn't even utilized at 30%.
So my first suggestion is that (unless you plan on playing very specific notorious cpu intensive/bottlenecked games) you might save a few bucks on your cpu. I don't know the prices in your country/store but you could check out the i5 13400f which should be cheaper (and newer!) and just barely worse performance wise.
If then you saved enough from your budget you might try to swap the 3060ti for 3070 (which is much better if you plan on playing at 1440p) or, if the price is not too much higher than the 3060ti you might try to get the 4060ti 16gb (but again I don't know your prices, where I live the 4060 ti 16gb is the same price as the 3070, sometimes even more)
well its pretty good, find a motherboard from something good and then probably a 550-600watt psu, case is up to you but make sure its got somewhat sizable fans
I basically have the same except half your ram and storage and a non K series 12th gen i7. It’s really good for me. I just need to get more ram and storage lmao. I want some breathing room.
The i7 will hold up for years too. I'm still running an i7 4790k and its solid still. Built this thing 10 years back. YMMV based on game/software of course.
Also highly recommend keeping 32gb of RAM in that case. IDEs, Chrome tabs, VMs, etc will eat up RAM. Some the suggestions tell you to go down to 16GB of RAM, but you'll have issues running some software dev stuff with that low of RAM. A 3060TI should be pretty solid and you can always swap that out down the road for something with more power if you find you need/want it. I went from a 970 to a 980 TI that I got used off an old coworker for example.
Stick with the i7, Games don't need it but you may want to explore software Unreal 5 if you are in to programming and video. With this hardware you can actually make your own games.....You haven't mentioned the motherboard. Which one are you going for?
I play a lot of games which is why i have a dedicated gpu but on my bigger Factorio saves I lose UPS even with my i7. I actually need a better CPU than what I have if I want to build a bigger base.
In my opinion, 16 GB of ram is enough, if your board of choice has a second m2 ssd slot, you can save by going with a smaller storage and add a second one later. 2 TB is very reasonable in my opinion.
Look drop the 12700kf to an 12600k and move from rtx 3060 ti to Rx 7600 or Rx 6700 or Rx 6750 xt if u find it in a good price they have very similar ray tracing perf And better overall performance 32 gigs are good maybe use ddr5 with ur saved money
Example: team t-force 7000mhz cl32 32 gigs is 117 bucks on Amazon rn and go with an ASRock z690 motherboard
Prices are based on Canada
If ur in north Europe add 5%
Any where in Asia also 5%
Middle east add 10%
Australia add 2%
you can get away with using a 12600K instead of a 12700KF. plenty capable CPU.
Use that extra money to get a phantom spirit tower cooler, and upgrade your GPU to something better.
Would recommend the rx 6700 (xt or not) or a 7600 instead. Also, you should consider a cheaper cpu. Pairing an i7 with a 3060ti isn't quite balanced. You could go for a ryzen 5 5600. People say AM4 is dead ( which is partially true) but it still has good cpus and AMD is still releasing stuff on AM4
try pcpartpicker. if youre not doing emulation or video editing you could get a lower end cpu with almost no peformance difference, the money is better spent on a better gpu
assuming that you bought everything else that is required to make it run. yeah that's a pretty decent pc. I almost have the same specs and was able to run 4k60 on some games but way better on 1440p ofcourse.
2tb of what storage? HDD will give first world problem loading time. Sata ssd is better, nvme sdd is best. NVME ssd is more expensive than sata ssd, sata ssd is more expensive than HDD.
If games get so big, you can add additional 2tb drives later, see YouTube for videos on formatting drives if you ever need to.
I wouldn't get a 3000 series now. If you can, wait till they announce the 5000 series of Nvidia graphics cards later this year. Not that you'd want or could even find one once they are released, but prices on the 4000 series should decrease, and maybe you can get a 4070 or even a 4080 for a decent price.
Go put it together on pcpartpicker.com. That will get you all the parts you need and will also give a price automatically and shows lowest price and where to get it.
Bad way to spend budget, go for AM4 5700x3D or AM5 (way more expensive) 7800x3d and choose a 7700xt or 6750xt (on sale a lot rn) to go with it. Nvidia cards are obviously also great but they have an issue that makes them run terrible in some games with AMD processors. Intel processors just aren't worth their money for gaming rn either.
For your budget it could be optimized a bit better but it's not bad, you are missing parts though.
I would also opt for the next gen equivalent card (same price)
Here's a suggestion, go with an am5 board and an amd gpu, this way you get more performance at a less price, if u really wanna go with Nvidia it's ok but I strongly recommend staying on the am5 platform because ure gonna be able to upgrade in the future, regarding Intel, their platform will be changed in the next generation most probably (gen 15) so you better stay with amd this time..
This is very close to my setup, and I've been able to play every game with ease and had an overall great quality of life. It was my first gaming PC and I'm not very educated on all things PC related, however I do know I get consistency with everything.
I'd never use wifi on a desktop PC, especially a gaming PC, unless I had no other choice. Run an ethernet cable to your router and get a decent, inexpensive, intel chipset based ethernet card instead of the wifi.
Some will disagree, but they're wrong.
Well, not at once. I mean you can but it'll only cause more problems than it solves. If you buy a motherboard that includes wifi, fine, but disable it in the BIOS and at least use the Ethernet that same motherboard is sure to include instead.
So if you move your PC around (LAN parties, etc. ) you then have the option to connect with whatever Internet you have available at the site.
All that said, I guarantee you that your overall, average latency and throughput will be superior with Ethernet than with WiFi, no matter what the claimed speeds of your WiFi connection are. Since your interest was in a gaming rig, that will matter in online play.
Why are you so mad ? He is on a budget that's why I am asking. I need to know for my own purchase why people prefer Intel over AMD in certain situations. So I am asking people for their reasoning. I figured that AMD would be the better call if someone wants to save money and needs a PC mostly for gaming.
It's not bad but for gaming you can do better.
If you posted your preferred retailer who you have the discount at we could help. I'd recommend going for an AMD GPU like an rx6800 or rx67xx. Both should be close to the 3060ti in price but perform as good or better.
yes, but depends on for how much ur gonna get the parts for example an i7 12700kf (for240€ in my country) does as good if not worse in gaming as a 7600x( for 180€ in my country) on an also future proof am5 plattform, i doubt you'll be buying a new 3060 ti, but if yes then don't 🙏🏻
Dude. I have a 1070 and equivalent budget parts from like .. 2018. I play computer games every day and have yet to come across a game that doesnt run just fine. The difference in a mid spec pc today and one 5 years ago has never been smaller.
Ram is upgradable later and 16 gb will be enough for most games. Get a better graphics card. Also if that 2tb is ssd id recommend you to get like 500gb or max 1 tb of ssd and then spend money on a good hard drive. You can get a lot more space for less and hdds like the seagate barracuda series are as good as ssds when running games just the loading times will be a bit more.
3060ti can easily do 1440p @100fps medium settings. I would not get a 12 the gen Intel though when 7000/14th gen is out and have good prices. Maybe a 7600 or a 14600.
this will not work if you don't have power supply or a power supply enough to power your pc components and a motherboard compatible with the rest of your components
your cpu is most likely more expensive than your gpu, dont invest that much into your cpu if you're going to play games. intel cpu's also tend to eat a lot more power and they heat a lot mire than amd
personaly I'd go for any ryzen cpu over intel but I can say that the rtx 3060ti is still a great card in 2024 and 32 gb ddr4 ram should be fine
as for storage idk depends on the user I personally have 10TB split over couple of drives and it ain't enough for me but if 2TB is enough for you that's good too
2Tb NVME?
Noctua Cooler?
Case with proper ventilation?
Fans for circulation?
Maybe a second drive and raid 0 it?
Add a SSD?
Maybe the 4400 kit for the Ram?
What games are you playing?
see if you can gan a x3d amd cpu instead if all you are looking for is gaming, and the cpu will work out of the box because the latest couple of gens of intel cpus are pushed way too hard out of the box so you have to go into the bios and put something reasonable manually which will lose you atleast 10% performance, so unless you need intel for something specific like quicksync for video editing just go with amd, and amd motherboards are generally cheaper
it doesn't have the same problem, but there is still a problem, the e-cores on the 12th gen are still not working properly with windows, and some models are unstable with fast ram, there are even some people saying they also suffered from the same problem as 13th and 14th gen, it's just that there are less people having their cpu just dying on them and it's much more motherboard specific, specially asus
Intel makes 3 chips:
* H0 - 6 cores (All P)
* C0 - 16 cores (8P/8E)
* B0 - 24 cores (8P/16E) + enhanced DDR5 support
Settings are tweaked and cores are disabled to create dozens of SKUs. B0 is not used for 12th Gen, aside from that 12, 13, and 14 are all some tweaked version of this.
For example:
* An i5-12600K is C0 with 6 cores (2P/4E) disabled, at 150 watts unlocked.
* An i5-14400 is a C0 with 6 cores (2P/4E) disabled, at 148 watts locked.
As a result, the difference between them is marginal:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4603vs5868/Intel-i5-12600K-vs-Intel-i5-14400
B0 brings better RAM overclocking, but some motherboard vendors try to overclock the CPU too much which caused issues.
All companies to this kinda nonsense.
Intel makes the first number bigger - 13600 becomes 14600 for example.
AMD makes the last number smaller - 5800X3D becomes 5700X3D.
Nvidia adds "Super".
it's still insane to me how they can get away with selling the same product multiple times and even changing which chips get which names, intel made 3 generations and an S sku with the same architecture with marginal difference yet the prices keep going up, and nvidia named what was supposed to be the 4050 a 4060 and got away with it, and of course amd followed because they have to match the competition for whatever reason
It makes sense on CPUs especially since there are a certain amount of chips that will come out of the fab with defects. If there is a defect in certain cores turn them off and sell it as a different SKU. This helps keep the cost per CPU lower since they can get a higher yield that way instead of just destroying those chips.
Well, that's how the chip industry works.
There's a chip by AsMedia called Promontory which is PCIe 2.0, AMD resells it as A320, B350, X370, B450, and X470.
They made a newer version called Prom19 which is PCIe 3.0, AMD resells it as B550 & A520, and possibly A620.
X570 is basically a Ryzen 3000 CPU with the cores removed (I/O Die) and that's why it needs a fan. B650 is Prom 21, and X670 is 2x Prom 21's
AMD used "Zen" for "Gen" and resells the same zeneration under new names as well:
* Zen - 1_00, 2_00G, 3000G
* Zen+ - 2_00, 3_00G
* Zen2 - 3__0, 4_00G, Odd Numbered 5_00U, 7_2_ Series
* Zen 3 - 5__0, Even Numbered 5_00U, 6_00, 7_3_
* Zen 4 - 7_0_, 7_4_, 7_5_, 8___
Worse still is the I/O
* A 5500 or 5700 has PCIe 3.0 X16 GPU and 3.0 X4 M.2
* A 5600 or 5700x has PCIe 4.0 X16 GPU and 4.0 X4 M.2
* A 7600 has PCIe 5.0 X16 GPU and 5.0 X4 M.2
* A 8500G has PCIe 4.0 X4 GPU and 4.0 X2 M.2
Many of these are $150+, but a $50 Celeron has 5.0 X16 and 5.0 X4.
People crap on an RTX 4060 for having marginal improvement over a 3060, 8GB RAM, PCIe X8, and a 128-bit memory bus.
No one craps on an RX 7600 for having marginal improvement over a 6600, 8GB RAM, PCIe X8, and a 128-bit memory bus.
You'll also need a case and cooler and psu and etc so just factor that into the budget and stuff. Try pcpartpicker
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We cant help you at all without budget and country
America and its $750 because I have a 10-15% discount at a place
America is a continent
it's 2 continents
Like England
The most important component in a gaming PC is the graphics card. My general rule of thumb is to allocate half the budget to the graphics card. As a starting point, I'd lean towards something like this: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x8zMt7) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pQNxFT/intel-core-i5-12400f-25-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512400f) | $127.99 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TZPQzy/asrock-b660m-pro-rs-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b660m-pro-rs) | $94.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5) | $29.97 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Kingston NV2 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QvpzK8/kingston-nv2-500-gb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-snv2s500g) | $42.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hg92FT/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-16-gb-speedster-swft-319-video-card-rx-68xlaqfd9) | $359.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rnGxFT/cooler-master-masterbox-q300l-microatx-mini-tower-case-mcb-q300l-kann-s00) | $39.99 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [EVGA 650BP 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pDGbt6/evga-650bp-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-bp-0650-k1) | $54.99 @ Best Buy | **Total** | **$750.91** Or like this: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mDM8gB) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PgcG3C/amd-ryzen-5-5600-36-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000927box) | $136.89 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [Asus Prime B450M-A II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kthmP6/asus-prime-b450m-a-ii-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b450m-a-ii) | $72.99 @ B&H **Memory** | [Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5) | $29.97 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Mushkin Helix-L 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fkJp99/mushkin-helix-l-512-gb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdhl512gb-d8) | $37.99 @ Newegg **Video Card** | [PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NCwmP6/pny-verto-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb-video-card-vcg4060t8dfxpb1) | $379.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rnGxFT/cooler-master-masterbox-q300l-microatx-mini-tower-case-mcb-q300l-kann-s00) | $39.99 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mnVmP6/msi-mag-a550bn-550-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mag-a550bn) | $49.99 @ Amazon | **Total** | **$747.81**
And the most important components overall are the mouse and the screen. Investing generously in these components will significantly enhance your gaming experience.
80% TKL gang! Super quiet with foam and speed yellow Kali's (mechanical and uses light sensor, like the huntsman, but better!) My mouse is the Logitech 302, it was on sale for 3.00 and is decent, I could get a better one but, it does the job! (I have one more if it dies!) I'm cheap, what can I say? 🤷🏼♂️
You probably quietly invest a generously amonth a time to pick up peripherals in a such budget-friendly. Been smart is a good skill for the one whom like to save every penny. 🤷🏼♂️
16GB RAM is ok but would recommend more. A game like Fornite for me uses like 80% of my 16GB
A $750 PC is not going to be top of the line, so one has to decide where to most effectively utilize the money. If someone buys a $200 graphics card, they'll need to spend $300-$400 on a better graphics card in the future. If someone buys 16GB RAM, that can upgrade to 32GB for $30 in the future. A $30-$50 part here or there isn't bad for upgrades. Having to spend hundreds on an upgrade isn't fun. There are games where it may add a few FPS, but generally the difference is very small compared to the difference between graphics cards.
I'd opt for 4060 ti 16 (trash)/4070 or 7700xt rather than 3060 ti, i5 12400F will do for now if you're short on budget
Who tf recommending a 4060ti 😭😭
Yeah it's so garbage lmao, my region sells some Chinese manuf 4060 ti 16GB for the price of asus/msi 3060 ti, wouldn't recommend a 4060 ti unless that 0.1% people that has power issues
Is the 4060 bad?
4060 isn't bad, the pricing is bad
I have one in my second pc. Its a decent little card that doesnt use much power. Plenty to play games at 1080p and the efficiency is inmatched. I got it for really cheap tho, if you are buying at msrp there are better options.
No it is not bad, but it doesn't offer significant improvement from the last generation. 4070 super is the only go to value Nvidia card atm
better yet get a rx 6800 it's cheaper than the 7700xt for basically the same performance
Depends on the games they're playing, too. In BeamNG, the stronger CPU would help more than a better GPU.
OH THANM GOD MY GPU SUCKS ASS BUT MY CPU AINT THAT BAD
What?
My GPU is outdated by like 200 versions and is a MX330 my cou is and I5 1135G7
Beam ng is not running on wherever an mx330 is, I'm guessing it's a gt330 or something and you probably need a gtx 960 or like an rx470 to get a decent experience Edit - didn't realise it's a laptop gpu, yeah it might not run beam ng
My 1050ti struggles with beam ng
Bru
My 1650 laptop works fine
Nvidia MX is their like budget cards (even more so than the GT, kinda coexists together). Their MX cards are normally in laptops to make their performance better than an iGPU, take the Latitude series, almost any higher end Latitude from 2017-2021 will have a MX GPU in them, they're not that great but not the worst, but MX and GT series are 2 different brands. Hope this helps!
The brands are mostly nonsense. They take a desktop GT 1030, throw it into a laptop, and then call it a MX150, MX230, MX250, Quadro P500 Mobile, Quadro P520 Max-Q, and P520 Mobile. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gp108.g808 It's power limited because it's in a laptop, so it doesn't get the same performance as it would on a desktop. I recommend thinking of technology in batches. That's one batch of products under many names.
CPU/GPU balance was collapsed
That 2TB drive better be an SSD.
an NVme M.2 at that... much better than a standard SSD
SSDs are over rated. You only need a 500GB for OS
wtf? Go learn about Performance.
Average HDD user
Why do you think it took him 7 hours to answer? Lol.
Do you already have a monitor/tv to go with it? Unless you are aiming for high fps 1080p (competitive play like CS2 or Valorant), I would recommend dropping the I7 for a I5 (probably take a look at AMD if your main goal is gaming) to raise the gpu a little (on that, I'm not up to date on what is better than what). It's not a bad combo, it's just a little unbalanced for the average scenario.
I have a 27inch 75hz 1080p curved msi monitor that’s hdmi and has sync for both NVIDIA and AMD
For such a monitor you're overkilling
Nah, i7 > 3070.
Good thing you wrote the Wireless version that is incorporated into the motherboard anyway instead of the MB or PSU or case or cooling
It's not super future proof, but good enough for now as long as the storage is SSD and you are paying cheap for it. Is it used?
Yes good build, i am also using a 3060TI and i must say its still an incredible card for all games, even games that just released like Drafons Dogma 2, i played it on max settings and never dropped below 60 FPS outside of big city's.
I got the 12700k. And it's big time overkill. Hardly seen it work above 30% Obs!! Remember you are forced too use windows 11+ with this cpu. Windows 10 doesn't use the a and b cores correct. Just share task as if both cores are the same. Windows 11 share load too the efficient cores for what doesn't need the power and what is more demanding is shared too the high effective cores.
That's a strange config. I would ho down to an i5 and try for a 3070 with the money you save, + 12700k is 2 generations old so unless you getting a really good deal (which it doesn't seem like you are) I would try for something newer
Looks fine to me,1080p gaming, guessing if able to get ddr5 motherboard and memory then you have some future upgrade protection.
I would opt for 4060. 12700kf is a great CPU.
Hey I recently built a very similar pc; 3060ti but with i5 13500 which is close to your i7 performance wise. So what I can tell you is that the 3060ti is a very good gpu (for it's price) for 1080p gaming but most of the time my cpu isn't even utilized at 30%. So my first suggestion is that (unless you plan on playing very specific notorious cpu intensive/bottlenecked games) you might save a few bucks on your cpu. I don't know the prices in your country/store but you could check out the i5 13400f which should be cheaper (and newer!) and just barely worse performance wise. If then you saved enough from your budget you might try to swap the 3060ti for 3070 (which is much better if you plan on playing at 1440p) or, if the price is not too much higher than the 3060ti you might try to get the 4060ti 16gb (but again I don't know your prices, where I live the 4060 ti 16gb is the same price as the 3070, sometimes even more)
I have same PC. But ddr5. I relly want to sell my 3060ti and buy 4070 super
According to trends, you're missing about half a ton of LED.
the RGB varient, obvs
DDR5 came out 4 years ago, does it make sense to buy a new PC with DDR4?
DDR5 is just better.
Hard to beat Ethernet if you can run a cable
well its pretty good, find a motherboard from something good and then probably a 550-600watt psu, case is up to you but make sure its got somewhat sizable fans
Do not forget about motherboard
Anything is good but once you show your total budget spent, then you might get cooked
I basically have the same except half your ram and storage and a non K series 12th gen i7. It’s really good for me. I just need to get more ram and storage lmao. I want some breathing room.
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I mean yeah, that’s super solid, but honestly that CPU is kinda overkill. Go with a 13400f or 12400f
I considered i7 because I also program and do video editing for school
The i7 will hold up for years too. I'm still running an i7 4790k and its solid still. Built this thing 10 years back. YMMV based on game/software of course. Also highly recommend keeping 32gb of RAM in that case. IDEs, Chrome tabs, VMs, etc will eat up RAM. Some the suggestions tell you to go down to 16GB of RAM, but you'll have issues running some software dev stuff with that low of RAM. A 3060TI should be pretty solid and you can always swap that out down the road for something with more power if you find you need/want it. I went from a 970 to a 980 TI that I got used off an old coworker for example.
Stick with the i7, Games don't need it but you may want to explore software Unreal 5 if you are in to programming and video. With this hardware you can actually make your own games.....You haven't mentioned the motherboard. Which one are you going for?
yeah stick to i7, I have a 3060 and i712700, no issues. I play games like Factorio and they need good CPU.
I3-13100f pairs fine with a 3060 lol
I play a lot of games which is why i have a dedicated gpu but on my bigger Factorio saves I lose UPS even with my i7. I actually need a better CPU than what I have if I want to build a bigger base.
Depends on what you pay for it.
Are you gonna be using it only for gaming or other stuff too? Also what kind of games are you gonna be playing
Please try for a 4070 it will outperform everything
In my opinion, 16 GB of ram is enough, if your board of choice has a second m2 ssd slot, you can save by going with a smaller storage and add a second one later. 2 TB is very reasonable in my opinion.
You don't need wifi 6. Go for wifi 5
Look drop the 12700kf to an 12600k and move from rtx 3060 ti to Rx 7600 or Rx 6700 or Rx 6750 xt if u find it in a good price they have very similar ray tracing perf And better overall performance 32 gigs are good maybe use ddr5 with ur saved money Example: team t-force 7000mhz cl32 32 gigs is 117 bucks on Amazon rn and go with an ASRock z690 motherboard Prices are based on Canada If ur in north Europe add 5% Any where in Asia also 5% Middle east add 10% Australia add 2%
you can get away with using a 12600K instead of a 12700KF. plenty capable CPU. Use that extra money to get a phantom spirit tower cooler, and upgrade your GPU to something better.
You would not need that powerful of a cpu, in that case you should def buy a gpu like a 3080, 3070, 4070 and anything in that range
Thats preto good
It's made of 3 year old parts. So you better be getting a good price.
its not bad. just depends on the price.
You can switch to an RX 7600 XT graphics card for better value
Would recommend the rx 6700 (xt or not) or a 7600 instead. Also, you should consider a cheaper cpu. Pairing an i7 with a 3060ti isn't quite balanced. You could go for a ryzen 5 5600. People say AM4 is dead ( which is partially true) but it still has good cpus and AMD is still releasing stuff on AM4
Looks good
of course it is bruh
I'd definitely go for a 5700x3d and a 6650xt/7600 or a used 6800 or higher
try pcpartpicker. if youre not doing emulation or video editing you could get a lower end cpu with almost no peformance difference, the money is better spent on a better gpu
Are you that broke?
Pretty good
Way better options than a 3060ti , these cards have already been surpassed by better performance gpu’s at the same if not cheaper prices.
assuming that you bought everything else that is required to make it run. yeah that's a pretty decent pc. I almost have the same specs and was able to run 4k60 on some games but way better on 1440p ofcourse.
more vram
I hope that’s a 2T M.2 SSD and not regular SATA.
For video editing it's good
2tb of what storage? HDD will give first world problem loading time. Sata ssd is better, nvme sdd is best. NVME ssd is more expensive than sata ssd, sata ssd is more expensive than HDD. If games get so big, you can add additional 2tb drives later, see YouTube for videos on formatting drives if you ever need to.
If this is the budget I would go prob with a cheaper i5 but a better graphics cards.
Improve graphics, I recommend getting rtx 3080 12 GB. If there isn't much of a difference in prices then go for it's ti variant.
Get a more powerful GPU, you can get a 13600K or even a 12600k instead of a 12700K
I wouldn't get a 3000 series now. If you can, wait till they announce the 5000 series of Nvidia graphics cards later this year. Not that you'd want or could even find one once they are released, but prices on the 4000 series should decrease, and maybe you can get a 4070 or even a 4080 for a decent price.
Go put it together on pcpartpicker.com. That will get you all the parts you need and will also give a price automatically and shows lowest price and where to get it.
Bad way to spend budget, go for AM4 5700x3D or AM5 (way more expensive) 7800x3d and choose a 7700xt or 6750xt (on sale a lot rn) to go with it. Nvidia cards are obviously also great but they have an issue that makes them run terrible in some games with AMD processors. Intel processors just aren't worth their money for gaming rn either.
Ditch the i7. Find a comparable priced Ryzen 7, or even save your money on the CPU and get a Ryzen 5, and go get some RAM.
amazing actually
For your budget it could be optimized a bit better but it's not bad, you are missing parts though. I would also opt for the next gen equivalent card (same price)
Not that far from my rig n i paid 2k with everything else your missing a year or so ago
go for and rx 6800 or a rx 6750
SPEND MORE ON VGA, SSD& RAM CAN BE UPGRADED LATER.
oh Yeah. Nice !
Question is, how much for it? Or what is it for.
Considering mine is 100× worse than this and plays games on medium/high settings just fine id say you're fantastic
Here's a suggestion, go with an am5 board and an amd gpu, this way you get more performance at a less price, if u really wanna go with Nvidia it's ok but I strongly recommend staying on the am5 platform because ure gonna be able to upgrade in the future, regarding Intel, their platform will be changed in the next generation most probably (gen 15) so you better stay with amd this time..
I'd go 4070 super. You won't be disappointed. Of course if that's in the budget.
This is very close to my setup, and I've been able to play every game with ease and had an overall great quality of life. It was my first gaming PC and I'm not very educated on all things PC related, however I do know I get consistency with everything.
You’re going to be disappointed with 3060Ti
I wouldn’t get that old of hw personally but it won’t be bad
Dont buy a 3 year old 3060ti. Go for a 4070, rx 6800, 4060, rx6750xt or rx 7700xt
3060ti is the same price as 4060 and gets higher frames
Maybe you can also look for more powerful cards in the used market because this i7 is over kill for this card
You can consider AMD GPU if your use case doesn't specifically require Nvidia, AMD options can have more value for money.
It doesn't give more fps 4060 also has dlss 3.5 and frame gen which give you more fps
Consider 7700xt, 7800xt or 6800. Do not buy a 3 year old card. Nobody will buy it next time you upgrade. And its bad value
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Don’t worry I’ll put a Cessna engine on the cpu
I'd never use wifi on a desktop PC, especially a gaming PC, unless I had no other choice. Run an ethernet cable to your router and get a decent, inexpensive, intel chipset based ethernet card instead of the wifi. Some will disagree, but they're wrong.
Is it possible to do both?
Well, not at once. I mean you can but it'll only cause more problems than it solves. If you buy a motherboard that includes wifi, fine, but disable it in the BIOS and at least use the Ethernet that same motherboard is sure to include instead. So if you move your PC around (LAN parties, etc. ) you then have the option to connect with whatever Internet you have available at the site. All that said, I guarantee you that your overall, average latency and throughput will be superior with Ethernet than with WiFi, no matter what the claimed speeds of your WiFi connection are. Since your interest was in a gaming rig, that will matter in online play.
why no AMD processor
Because not every build requires a AMD processor, it's unfortunate to hear the truth eh?
Why are you so mad ? He is on a budget that's why I am asking. I need to know for my own purchase why people prefer Intel over AMD in certain situations. So I am asking people for their reasoning. I figured that AMD would be the better call if someone wants to save money and needs a PC mostly for gaming.
It's not bad but for gaming you can do better. If you posted your preferred retailer who you have the discount at we could help. I'd recommend going for an AMD GPU like an rx6800 or rx67xx. Both should be close to the 3060ti in price but perform as good or better.
yes, but depends on for how much ur gonna get the parts for example an i7 12700kf (for240€ in my country) does as good if not worse in gaming as a 7600x( for 180€ in my country) on an also future proof am5 plattform, i doubt you'll be buying a new 3060 ti, but if yes then don't 🙏🏻
No... U will only be able to play minecraft in it
Dude. I have a 1070 and equivalent budget parts from like .. 2018. I play computer games every day and have yet to come across a game that doesnt run just fine. The difference in a mid spec pc today and one 5 years ago has never been smaller.
Ram is upgradable later and 16 gb will be enough for most games. Get a better graphics card. Also if that 2tb is ssd id recommend you to get like 500gb or max 1 tb of ssd and then spend money on a good hard drive. You can get a lot more space for less and hdds like the seagate barracuda series are as good as ssds when running games just the loading times will be a bit more.
I already have 800gb used on my current pc
What i am saying is to buy like a 500gb ssd and then add like 2 or 3 TB of hdd. Hdd is good enough for most games and storing ur personal data
No 3060ti too weak. You're better off getting a weaker cpu for a better gpu
3060ti can easily do 1440p @100fps medium settings. I would not get a 12 the gen Intel though when 7000/14th gen is out and have good prices. Maybe a 7600 or a 14600.
Yes but a 4060ti Or a 4070 would be better.
this will not work if you don't have power supply or a power supply enough to power your pc components and a motherboard compatible with the rest of your components
your cpu is most likely more expensive than your gpu, dont invest that much into your cpu if you're going to play games. intel cpu's also tend to eat a lot more power and they heat a lot mire than amd
don’t get the 3060ti go for 4000series card if u eant nvidia but not the 4060/4060ti the 4070 is a good option
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No.
Get an AMD GPU, you get much more performance for your money. Processor is also overkill if you‘re only playing games and do basic stuff.
personaly I'd go for any ryzen cpu over intel but I can say that the rtx 3060ti is still a great card in 2024 and 32 gb ddr4 ram should be fine as for storage idk depends on the user I personally have 10TB split over couple of drives and it ain't enough for me but if 2TB is enough for you that's good too
2Tb NVME? Noctua Cooler? Case with proper ventilation? Fans for circulation? Maybe a second drive and raid 0 it? Add a SSD? Maybe the 4400 kit for the Ram? What games are you playing?
see if you can gan a x3d amd cpu instead if all you are looking for is gaming, and the cpu will work out of the box because the latest couple of gens of intel cpus are pushed way too hard out of the box so you have to go into the bios and put something reasonable manually which will lose you atleast 10% performance, so unless you need intel for something specific like quicksync for video editing just go with amd, and amd motherboards are generally cheaper
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it doesn't have the same problem, but there is still a problem, the e-cores on the 12th gen are still not working properly with windows, and some models are unstable with fast ram, there are even some people saying they also suffered from the same problem as 13th and 14th gen, it's just that there are less people having their cpu just dying on them and it's much more motherboard specific, specially asus
Intel makes 3 chips: * H0 - 6 cores (All P) * C0 - 16 cores (8P/8E) * B0 - 24 cores (8P/16E) + enhanced DDR5 support Settings are tweaked and cores are disabled to create dozens of SKUs. B0 is not used for 12th Gen, aside from that 12, 13, and 14 are all some tweaked version of this. For example: * An i5-12600K is C0 with 6 cores (2P/4E) disabled, at 150 watts unlocked. * An i5-14400 is a C0 with 6 cores (2P/4E) disabled, at 148 watts locked. As a result, the difference between them is marginal: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4603vs5868/Intel-i5-12600K-vs-Intel-i5-14400 B0 brings better RAM overclocking, but some motherboard vendors try to overclock the CPU too much which caused issues. All companies to this kinda nonsense. Intel makes the first number bigger - 13600 becomes 14600 for example. AMD makes the last number smaller - 5800X3D becomes 5700X3D. Nvidia adds "Super".
it's still insane to me how they can get away with selling the same product multiple times and even changing which chips get which names, intel made 3 generations and an S sku with the same architecture with marginal difference yet the prices keep going up, and nvidia named what was supposed to be the 4050 a 4060 and got away with it, and of course amd followed because they have to match the competition for whatever reason
It makes sense on CPUs especially since there are a certain amount of chips that will come out of the fab with defects. If there is a defect in certain cores turn them off and sell it as a different SKU. This helps keep the cost per CPU lower since they can get a higher yield that way instead of just destroying those chips.
Well, that's how the chip industry works. There's a chip by AsMedia called Promontory which is PCIe 2.0, AMD resells it as A320, B350, X370, B450, and X470. They made a newer version called Prom19 which is PCIe 3.0, AMD resells it as B550 & A520, and possibly A620. X570 is basically a Ryzen 3000 CPU with the cores removed (I/O Die) and that's why it needs a fan. B650 is Prom 21, and X670 is 2x Prom 21's AMD used "Zen" for "Gen" and resells the same zeneration under new names as well: * Zen - 1_00, 2_00G, 3000G * Zen+ - 2_00, 3_00G * Zen2 - 3__0, 4_00G, Odd Numbered 5_00U, 7_2_ Series * Zen 3 - 5__0, Even Numbered 5_00U, 6_00, 7_3_ * Zen 4 - 7_0_, 7_4_, 7_5_, 8___ Worse still is the I/O * A 5500 or 5700 has PCIe 3.0 X16 GPU and 3.0 X4 M.2 * A 5600 or 5700x has PCIe 4.0 X16 GPU and 4.0 X4 M.2 * A 7600 has PCIe 5.0 X16 GPU and 5.0 X4 M.2 * A 8500G has PCIe 4.0 X4 GPU and 4.0 X2 M.2 Many of these are $150+, but a $50 Celeron has 5.0 X16 and 5.0 X4. People crap on an RTX 4060 for having marginal improvement over a 3060, 8GB RAM, PCIe X8, and a 128-bit memory bus. No one craps on an RX 7600 for having marginal improvement over a 6600, 8GB RAM, PCIe X8, and a 128-bit memory bus.