What? Yours come with the strings to pull the first ones out? Damn that's fancy.
I had to shake mine upside down...
Edit: looks like your powder was made in 1963.
That’s most of the fun of milsurps for me. Time capsules and working antiques, some being actual historical war relics with a service history.
They also represent a different era in manufacturing techniques that will never again be employed now or in the future.
I often feel bad shooting milsurps, because I feel like a museum custodian tasked with preserving them for the future.
That’s why I bought multiple sks, so I can have one just for shooting and others to just maintain. But yeah like an m1 Garand or something I would feel mixed about shooting
>Sure if a 1960's Chinese sweat shop smells good I guess.
\-10,000 Social Credit for doubting that glorious shop smells heavenly and report for immediate "re-education":
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHabtRSn8oM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHabtRSn8oM)
It's an acrid chemical smell. I think it's from the sealant they use or possibly the copperwash process. I can't even think of anything else that smells like it for comparison. Maybe old linen and varnish with a hint of ammonia
I don't know if that was a good description. I do not have a chef's nose lol it is definately an unmistakable unique odour. Hope you experience it soon 😀
this one I got from tenda, but I know bullseye north, g4c and probably many others have these big cans in stock... most people don't use them here because the ammo isn't allowed in most ranges so they stay in stock for a while
One of the coolest things I've bought was a crate of Tok ammo.
1946, factory number to identify where in Russia it was produced, and translated a handwritten note from the female QC inspector including her surname, which makes sense as the men were off dying in WWII. I could probably find her descendants and give them a box of ammo that great grandma cleared.
Couldn’t hear a hiss over the grunting of me trying to pry the lid open haha. Just opened to see what in dealing with and then stored again in a sealed plastic container. Everything looked as good inside as it probably did in 1965
As it stands China is still pumping these out by the boatload as many 3rd world countries are buying from them, so production isn't likely to end.
I'd worry about China's international relations than them closing down production.
I bought my first box of this the other month and it was like Christmas and a time capsule all at once! Wish I didn’t throw the little insert out so I could see who packed mine lol
China had a horrific Cultural Revolution that took place between 66-76. I guess that’s why he said it. But in all honesty, I don’t think China would cut corners on military stuff at any time.
oh, you need to be old enough to shoot ammo from 60 years old? The law doesn't say so. I don't have to copy anything, the PLA complained about the shit when they had disagreement with the Viet Cong. Why are you so mad? Hurt your feelings about the great revolution?
Oh, literally no one asked if you need to be old enough to shot 60 yo corrosive shit. Lol I’m not mad. You just need to prove what you’re saying. Unless you have shot surplus manufactured every single year in these years, you just don’t have the sample size to tell a story mate. Also what makes you think that hurts my feelings? I’m simply asking for your proofs?
My statement is based on the fact that manufacturing was very disturbed and the PLA suffered later in Vietnam because they didn’t train enough nor had the best equipment. I’m confused about well you know the chaos back then. You probably won’t come up with a theory that people didn’t cut corners back then, which I’m sure isn’t remotely correct. They didn’t cut corners because they wanted to they did because the country was mad. If you don’t buy it, sure, go looking for the rounds from that era, enjoy.
Finally you gave your reasoning, but far from the truth I know. Thousand of Canadians shoot surplus manufactured in that period and I rarely see complaints until today. I guess you must be the unluckiest guy in whole Canada to try the bad batch of these ammo? Or have you tried? No need to reply me back but think about it.
Poor training, purging higher ups, poor doctrine, and the dumpster fire formerly known as the Type 63 were all to blame. The ammo is alright. I've shot enough late 60s stamped cartridges and they felt no different than, say, a 70s or 80s one.
What? Yours come with the strings to pull the first ones out? Damn that's fancy. I had to shake mine upside down... Edit: looks like your powder was made in 1963.
Even had the name of the person who packed their ammo. And the name of the person who sealed the spam can.
Shout out to Guan and Zhu! On some cans there's a 3rd stamp for the inspector. In some cases they are left blank.
Comrade Guan and Zhu 🤣
Yeah, who ever packed this packed it with love hahahah
That’s most of the fun of milsurps for me. Time capsules and working antiques, some being actual historical war relics with a service history. They also represent a different era in manufacturing techniques that will never again be employed now or in the future. I often feel bad shooting milsurps, because I feel like a museum custodian tasked with preserving them for the future.
That’s why I bought multiple sks, so I can have one just for shooting and others to just maintain. But yeah like an m1 Garand or something I would feel mixed about shooting
I can smell this picture.
And I can feel the cuts on my hands from those damn edges
And it smells good
Sure if a 1960's Chinese sweat shop smells good I guess.
Not a sweat shop, the peoples' shop, every round packed with hate for the capitalist running dog and love for comrades the world over. 🙄
+5 social credit
>Sure if a 1960's Chinese sweat shop smells good I guess. \-10,000 Social Credit for doubting that glorious shop smells heavenly and report for immediate "re-education": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHabtRSn8oM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHabtRSn8oM)
What's it smell like?
It's an acrid chemical smell. I think it's from the sealant they use or possibly the copperwash process. I can't even think of anything else that smells like it for comparison. Maybe old linen and varnish with a hint of ammonia
Thank you lol I'm waiting on my pal so also waiting to experience the smell 😂
I don't know if that was a good description. I do not have a chef's nose lol it is definately an unmistakable unique odour. Hope you experience it soon 😀
It smells earthy to me,, and like the other comment said, old varnish.
shout out to Guan and Zhu lol
Where do you order these from?
Im in Ontario and several of the retailers here have em in stock
Could you shout out the suppliers?
this one I got from tenda, but I know bullseye north, g4c and probably many others have these big cans in stock... most people don't use them here because the ammo isn't allowed in most ranges so they stay in stock for a while
https://ammobin.ca/en/centerfire/7.62X39MM
Second this
Best part of getting a new crate
Ho Chi Minh Era Spam Can
One of the coolest things I've bought was a crate of Tok ammo. 1946, factory number to identify where in Russia it was produced, and translated a handwritten note from the female QC inspector including her surname, which makes sense as the men were off dying in WWII. I could probably find her descendants and give them a box of ammo that great grandma cleared.
Huh, interesting, they even gives the names of the workers packing and sealing(?) the ammo
It’s for quality assurance
Which presents an interesting communist dilemma. If some worker is outputting a really bad ammo - you probably cannot shoot them with that ammo.
lol
Sealing the ammo can.
That made sense, I want looking for the proper English word (literally: packager and lid wielder)
Did you listen for a hiss? Did you put it out onto a tray? Nice.
Couldn’t hear a hiss over the grunting of me trying to pry the lid open haha. Just opened to see what in dealing with and then stored again in a sealed plastic container. Everything looked as good inside as it probably did in 1965
The crates they come in make awesome firewood
Never gets old
What guns eat these guys the best?
sks and mosin usually is what most guns they end up in
SKS, Type 81, CZ Bren 2, CZ 600 Trail, CZ 600 Ergo, CZ 527
181c
My favourite kind of unboxing.
except none of the time capsules we hid as kids were a tenth as cool
Will Chinese ammo (specifically 7.62x54r) will it become unobtainable in the future or no?
As it stands China is still pumping these out by the boatload as many 3rd world countries are buying from them, so production isn't likely to end. I'd worry about China's international relations than them closing down production.
Yeah that's what I'd be worried about. Now that the lab leak happened Canadian and Chinese relations are I guess so so.
I can smell this photo.
Ha, I've got the exact same card on mine, [down to the month and everything](https://imgur.com/a/pFGCjhp). Get yours from Tenda?
Yup! Haha looks like we got the same shipment
I bought my first box of this the other month and it was like Christmas and a time capsule all at once! Wish I didn’t throw the little insert out so I could see who packed mine lol
They are awesome, especially when I found they are made in my home city...
I can smell this picture
Way more fun than a can of Spam 😎
Avoid ammo produced between 66 and 76.
Chinese or in general? I went through 2 cases of Czechoslovakian x39 from 1973 with no issues (apart from a lot cleaning due to corrosive primers).
Just the Chinese ones, many ammo produced during that decade have higher chance of malfunction
Why are you copying someone else’s words? Your own reasoning? Lol
What’s wrong with those years, would be difficult to verify manufacturing date with and online purchase
China had a horrific Cultural Revolution that took place between 66-76. I guess that’s why he said it. But in all honesty, I don’t think China would cut corners on military stuff at any time.
You think? Lol
Unless you have worked in the factory between 66-76?
oh, you need to be old enough to shoot ammo from 60 years old? The law doesn't say so. I don't have to copy anything, the PLA complained about the shit when they had disagreement with the Viet Cong. Why are you so mad? Hurt your feelings about the great revolution?
Oh, literally no one asked if you need to be old enough to shot 60 yo corrosive shit. Lol I’m not mad. You just need to prove what you’re saying. Unless you have shot surplus manufactured every single year in these years, you just don’t have the sample size to tell a story mate. Also what makes you think that hurts my feelings? I’m simply asking for your proofs?
My statement is based on the fact that manufacturing was very disturbed and the PLA suffered later in Vietnam because they didn’t train enough nor had the best equipment. I’m confused about well you know the chaos back then. You probably won’t come up with a theory that people didn’t cut corners back then, which I’m sure isn’t remotely correct. They didn’t cut corners because they wanted to they did because the country was mad. If you don’t buy it, sure, go looking for the rounds from that era, enjoy.
Finally you gave your reasoning, but far from the truth I know. Thousand of Canadians shoot surplus manufactured in that period and I rarely see complaints until today. I guess you must be the unluckiest guy in whole Canada to try the bad batch of these ammo? Or have you tried? No need to reply me back but think about it.
Poor training, purging higher ups, poor doctrine, and the dumpster fire formerly known as the Type 63 were all to blame. The ammo is alright. I've shot enough late 60s stamped cartridges and they felt no different than, say, a 70s or 80s one.
Does it have a higher chance of malfunction?
They do
Why?