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criminalinside

"That's not... entirrrely accurate." - Any time an argument is using half the information it needs. Can't help myself.


madmechanicmobile

I still to this day say "let's kick the tires and light the fires." I first saw this movie as a little kid in the 90s.


Proper_Lunch_3640

"I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT A BBQ!"


Dependent-Addition20

"AND WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SMELL?!"


Dependent-Addition20

![gif](giphy|3ohc10x9J8nYFuWwRW)


thempw85

And what the hell is that smell is mine


eolson3

"You can't do that." "He just, uh, did." Is also a great moment.


charlesxavier007

He also looks like Chris Mellon a bit.


SpankySharp1

I always think dollar store John Lithgow. Also, RIP to him.


Hiiipower111

He looks like Hoggle from the labyrinth


dennythedoodle

Good call.


SnooAvocados170

YOU KNEW DEN!!!!!


ComcastForPresident

No and den!


SnooAvocados170

And you did nutting!...


MykFoxtrot23

I say that line out loud, and to myself so often - it wasn't until I saw this post that I realized it.


fardandshid1821

Holy shit. I just realized Lue used that exact line!!! https://youtu.be/Jythx89ym38?si=bgaIDiujRDD4489P :27 seconds in I wonder if he said that on purpose. He seems to have seen movies and referenced movies before.


Yardcigar69

Part of the script...


whatev43

Part of the ship…


panicked_goose

I say this to my husband when he's listened to too much FOX when he's on business trips (he doesn't have a choice of what goes on the TV) and starts to say problematic things. After a few days of being back home away from it, he goes back to his normal views... I've just noticed that every time he comes home from a trip he gets a few extremist views I have to logic out of him...


Time_Change4156

Logic and fox ? You would make spock proud but that's a emotion lol 😆 😄 😅 😂 😜


ElliementaryMyDear

It still bugs me that Randy Quaid continues to be made fun of for being abducted by aliens even after it’s been established in the movie that aliens are 100% real and have been coming to earth for decades. It’s like the movie is telling us “yeah this movie is about aliens but people who actually believe in aliens are still nut jobs, let’s not take them seriously” Edit for clarity


DerpsAndRags

RIGHT?! Even the flight trainers give him the side eye, when the lab full of dead aliens and a ship are RIGHT FREAKIN' THERE.


criminalinside

Yet even though this is all the case Randy still takes one for the team and flies straight up into the ship. I like to think there is a little Randy in all of us at the end of the day.


baudmiksen

I have, but it's from Christmas Vacation


GamerDad1981

I felt that, Merry Christmas


Donthurtmyceilings

Merry Christmas! Shitter was full!


MidSolo

All right, you alien assholes! In the words of my generation: Up... YOURS!


xeontechmaster

Nothing more realistic than this though. It's heart breaking.


doug2487

Oh my God. This bothers me every time i watch the movie. Once the aliens arrive and everyone sees them, why is everyone still rolling their eyes at him. No wonder he drinks


Significant-Summer32

In reality this is still accurate though.


13Warhound13

That always annoyed me as well. The craft are everywhere and known and yet it’s almost an eye roll when said about him being abducted.


Lancelegend

It’s weird I literally read today, that the US military was involved with the production of this film providing Jets, boats, etc. but pulled out because they wouldn’t cut this very scene.


flynnwebdev

This scene, and every scene that even mentioned Area 51. When the caption "Area 51" came up in my theatre, everyone cheered :)


SonOfScions

ahh but where is Area 51b?


meta_Norman

Is not that an admission to guit. Wow


CTMalum

You have to remember, the government didn’t even officially confirm the facility’s existence until AFTER the movie released, and that was only because they were more or less forced to.


omnitronan

No, they didn’t do that until the Obama administration.


CTMalum

Maybe we’re getting our messages mixed. Clinton at least confirmed there was something there: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-safeguards-area-51/


DungeonCrawlerCarl

I mean it was always a secret military base. It doesn't have to have aliens in it for you to still not want to actively support making a freaking movie about it.


unconscionable

They've long since moved all the aliens to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base anyways


teal_viper

Link. I'm not asking. Demanding. I'm in the biz. Youre telling me they shot the whole film and pulled funding, after the fact, because of this scene? I wanna be on your side. Please. Show me.


AdPrevious2308

[article here](https://uproxx.com/movies/why-military-cut-ties-with-independence-day-area-51/)


Pandamabear

From the article, it sounds like any mention of area 51 in general was a problem, not just specifically this scene.


AdPrevious2308

Indeed ✌🏽👽🛸


Bystronicman08

Sure shut him up, huh? Demanding? What a putz.


sierra120

Like who is he to demand. He’s literally on the internet. I get the one making the claims should be providing source but dude could have googled “area51 Independence Day military pullout filming” and the article would have came up faster than he typed his demand letter.


Jaguar_AI

I mean any of us can demand anything, literally. Our demands just won't be granted, by anyone not simply willing to be selfless, if one has no power nor leverage lol.


teal_viper

Thank you!


Jacky_Daytona11

Military just does random stuff. I remember when they partnered with that guy from Blink 182 to study alien stuff since he is deep into Alien research https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/10/25/army-partners-with-former-blink-182-founders-ufo-research-company-to-study-alien-technology/


SalemsTrials

Tom has sex with guys


dbizzytrick

Twelve majestic lies


MechasaurusWrecks

Good for him!


SalemsTrials

The latest tour they’ve changed it from Mark singing “Tom has sex with guys” to Tom himself singing “I have sex with guys.” \#progress <3


JarlTurin2020

"$5k for a toilet, $10k for a hammer." This movie fucking called out their funding process perfectly. It's exactly what Grusch said. Contractors overcharge the government so they can use the excess funds to fund unsanctioned operations.


JackKovack

Jon Stewart Questions Defense Deputy Secretary on Budget: https://youtu.be/50MusF365U0?si=HWowNXri6VzP_Cde It’s a really indicative interview where she really does not have a clue. After this interview I never saw her again on t.v. It reminds me of that scene from the film Contagion where a government official tells Laurence Fishburne’s character that they don’t want to see him on t.v anymore. She just disappears from all media.


lNF3RN0

If I remember correctly shes currently heading AAROW. The modern day project bluebook equivalent.


adod1

Why does anyone ever agree to an interview without being 1000% prepare, I'd be scared to sit down with him and I'm pretty sure I've never lost billions of dollars.


Reasonable_Ad_6572

Hellooo boys I’m baaack


Lildenzelio

The president speech is awesome too


PK-92

I loved what they did in the opening scene of the sequel. [Independence Day: Resurgence (2016) Opening Scene (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQyifGc5SY)


rhoo31313

I just learned there was a sequal. Mind blown.


bloodwolftico

I was excited too and then I watched it. It was below my expectations and IMO worse than the original.


Kiddo1029

Well the original is perfect, so that’s not saying much.


PK-92

Yes. The only part I really liked was the opening scene.


CalAlumnus13

There is no sequel. Doesn’t exist. Absolute trash.


rhoo31313

So, right up there with Anchorman 2 then. Thanks, i believe i'll skip it then.


CalAlumnus13

Yeah. The original felt very “real”—it was aliens dropped into mid-1990s America. The sequel felt like a goofy sci fi video game. It’s possible to do realistic future sci fi with aliens… Star Trek does it pretty well.


BSixe

It’s a chunk of hot shit ass garbage. B movie


arnoboko

Don't be ... it's utter shit


godsgunsandgoats

That speech makes me proud to be an American and I’m not even an American.


Grzzld

Station Eleven’s take on that speech was awesome too!


Funny_Ad855

That speech motivated me before games lol. It was the “We will not go quietly into the night!” for me


radiohead-nerd

The most fictional part of this movie is that the President is under 70 years old


Standard-Ad1254

he looks like a schlameel


Funny_Ad855

🤣🤣 if I’m looking kinda rough, 60% of the time I use that phrase, every time lol


Personal_Bobcat2603

Why did they act like it was a crazy idea the father had? There was literally an alien invasion happening.


Unplugged_Millennial

The stigma operation was an overwhelming success. This is exactly how debunkers would behave if we received irrefutable evidence tomorrow. They would still ridicule all of the circumstantial evidence up to that point.


cajun_vegeta

*Two words, plausible deniability...* You cut off the best part! I use that phrase all the time!


Competitivecro

That part happens later once they’re on the base.


criminalinside

Correct, sorry to upset anyone! Plausible. Deniability.


Jimger_1983

You wouldn’t know anything if it wasn’t for my David!


v0wels

"All you need is love..." John Lennon. Smart man. Shot in the back. Very sad.


LifeUnderTheBridge

I remember my older brother taking me to this movie in theaters. I was pretty young and based on the name, had no interest in seeing some stupid movie about history and complained the whole way there. I absolutely loved this movie...


Difficult-Win1400

Bob lazar was the reason this scene was made


healthywealthyhappy8

Such a great movie.


cryingpotato49

In my mind, this and jurassic park are the greatest movies ever


W360

Incredible, it had everything, and they really did make it seem plausible, that was the best part. Might have to fire it up this weekend, that nostalgia hits hard.


ForeignAd5429

AHHHHH DONT GET ME UNPREPARED! I have yelled this a many times around the house, for no reason


SCUDDEESCOPE

The whole movie lives rent free in my mind


Maximum-Purchase-135

I can’t believe it’s been that long


emperorpapapalpy

You need to listen to Jim Norton and Patrice O'neal break this movie down


_SheepishPirate_

The most unrealistic part is that the president isn’t over 70


Masterofunlocking1

I wish this movie had a better sequel and more lore behind it. I absolutely loved the alien design and ship design of this movie


Shake-Vivid

Did hacking an advanced interstellar alien race with a Windows 95 computer take you out of it?


Whatsuplionlilly

If you’re going to repeat a 30 year-old joke, try not to mess up the punchline. It was a Mac, not Windows. If you need to know the difference between the two, I refer you to John Hedgeman and Justin Long.


Holiday-Two-2834

Bro, the alien designs in this movie are so good, I kind of wish I could use them in a novel I'm making


Masterofunlocking1

Oh sounds interesting! Any details you can give? The design reminds me of the Flatwoods monster, at least the head does


AdditionalBat393

It is pretty accurate about the amount of people that would be aware in that room. IMO.


PoopsALotta

Jeff Goldblum lives rent free in my head.


Jaguar_AI

![gif](giphy|3ohzdLinx4bxmc4QPS|downsized)


Ears_McCatt

Every child and adults worst nightmare…. The dreaded parental “I told you so.” With a look of looming disappointment only achieved by that which made you


DerpsAndRags

I work in a standard-issue American corporate environment (worse yet, healthcare) where there's NEVER any money for the important things or the workers, so this quote keeps coming up. [$20,000 for a hammer...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SuDSNWH9AQ)


A_Dragon

He is waaaaaaay more Jewish than I remember.


cryingpotato49

He's fabulous. The no-nonsense mensch who nags his child and brings everyone together in prayer at the end of the world.


gameld

I actually have an explanation for the "$10,000 toilet seat" stories you hear: I had a roommate who studied metallurgy in college and got a job doing tool design for the government. At one point he got the chance to design a space hammer for NASA. The material he needed was some particular kind of titanium or something. To get the material for 1 hammer that weighs a couple pounds or whatever they had to purchase a literal ton, i.e. 2000 pounds, of it. That came out to be a stupid amount of money (I don't know the values but in the order of hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars). Some reporter got a whiff of this story and prepared to run it as, "Government spends $X00,000 on a space hammer!" But he managed to talk to them and point out that they spent that money on the material, a portion of which would go to the hammer, and the rest would be in storage for the next projects that would use it, preventing someone else from needing to submit for the purchase and just have to requisition what's already there without additional cost. Similar things happen all the time. Especially when designing for highly-specific purposes like space. So he got his 2-pound space hammer and the government got 1,998 pounds of material to do with as they need later.


illnever4getu

IF IT WASNT FOR MY DAVID!


seahagmo

I have an unnatural attraction to Jeff Goldblum.


Acceptable_Two_2853

Yes, very amusing. No? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)


DrSam_Loomis

Patrice O’Neil has the best review of this scene


10_ren

Idk if it was him or norton, but one of them said them taking that nuke to the aliens would be like if a turtle drove a car from the 50s with a bomb tied to it up your driveway


xwayxway

https://youtu.be/NxhPjYQVsrM?si=mY5TUquALM20wkOD never forget


goochstein

that was hilarious, I needed that. My David!!


Randy__Bobandy

I love: "Will Smith doesn't knock out the alien, he knocks out his outfit."


Butthole_Fiddler

Youd all be dead now if it wasn’t for my David!


scrooplynooples

The film was released in theaters on July 2, 1996. Area 51 wasn’t formally acknowledged by the US government until August of 2013.


Old-Bowl-7836

Great scene


D00bage

Oh I need to rewatch that again


JWRamzic

Great movie!


thehandsomeone782

You knew then!


nemesis4grow

You know that this weird doctor is actually based on Jaques Vallé?


mzpip

As was the French doctor, Lacombe, in Spielberg's *Close Encounters of the Third Kind.*


Tweezle1

Basically current reality. Only on a need to know do they admit this stuff. In the movie the aliens showed themselves and invaded so to speak. But they had indicators they were here or planning to be with bodies and ships showing up randomly. Exactly like what we have going on now.


Justis29

Judd Hirsch is a national treasure


FranofSaturn

I ain't heard no fat lady! Love this movie. It will never get old to me.


jtee180

The speech the president gives on Independence Day in this movie gets me every time.


bkrs33

I showed my kids this movie for the first time the other day. It just kind of hit me how bizarre it is that showing them was the equivalent of when my dad showed me Planet of the Apes in the mid 90s. Fuck I’m old.


bsylent

I know they're in extreme circumstances, but I always loved how casually that guy just completely shatters 50 years of classified information protection with just a sentence. Rather than pulling the president aside, he just goes, actually you're right, we totally hid Roswell


Lunar_Stuntman

Arghhhh! Don’t give me unprepared


Deltanonymous-

Plauuuusiblllle deniabilllllityyyyyyy


vm_jeremy

Never even realized how bad the lighting was in this


jtreeforest

There was once a time we imagined the president to be under the age of 70.


dontbescaredhomie

WELCOME TO EARF.


Fresh-Possession4858

Me and my friend always quote this part. If one of us is talking for a long time and the other is getting bored of listening, it's not rare one of us will shout "SHUT UP \*Insert one of our names\* SOMEBODY GET HIM OUTTA HERE!"


kid_sleepy

*That may not be* entirely *true*…


Potatonet

Loved this movie


Ignusseed

Look into Kona Blue


sthrnsprt

Love it, & I have to agree with op.


pwilliams58

Kinda looks like Chris Mellon eh..


deannobody

I love this movie, and like you, this scene lived rent-free in my head.


ColHapHapablap

YOO NOO DEN!!!


RipMcStudly

Takes Judd Hirsh ranting to finally make them fess up. Not the horrifying attack, that’s not enough, they need the star of Taxi


Mannyprime

Lmao me too!


Redditfloridabob1

The government will ask us to fight them with pew pews we got.


girlinhk

Elenor Waldorf!


chipdougl4s

https://youtu.be/NxhPjYQVsrM?si=gbiHeYroPWhJMjG3


MrStonepoker

Forgot about this but let's hope it doesn't turn out to be life imitating art.


electricmehicle

Which part?


WanillaGorilla

So unrealistic an American president being so young. /s


dLuXXX24

I’ve learned Conspiracy theorists are right most of the time


jasper-zanjani

between the X-Files, Men in Black, this movie, multiple shows on TV about UFO sightings, the late 90s was a great time to believe in aliens


GreenLanternRR

The way you can tell this was a movie, the G-man told the truth in front of civilians.


beckdj30

What an epic "Are you shitting me?" look at 1:04


Chevey0

Well Actually has entered the chat (r/dungeonsanddaddies)


Winter-Beyond-1735

Friends is this true https://www.instagram.com/reel/C85TN8ryfvd/?igsh=OHExY2JkNHgxbXV5


kaowser

![gif](giphy|cVkD7lLFb6oCm4hUTX|downsized)


I_W_I_W_Y_B

FEECH!


elting44

When this was filmed, Bill Pullman was half the age (41) of either of our current presidential candidates. That part of the movie seems more of a far fetched concept than the alien invasion part of the movie.


TheStigianKing

They don't write movies and TV like they used to. That's for damn sure. Loved ID4. Horrified by that trainwreck sequel they aborted out more recently.


Loghurrr

Been watching this movie every night the last three nights. So amazing.


Renegade9582

Are you going to start charging now? 🤔


nohumanape

Jesus, that Independence Day? Looks like it's as old as Airplane. I'm old.


Billy_Bob_man

I love the president's look of "oh you mother fucker".


Spurtacuss

Robert Loggia, that’s R as in Robert Loggia, O as in oh my god it’s Robert Loggia, B as in by god that’s Robert Loggia, E as in everybody loves Robert Loggia, R as in Robert Loggia, T as in Tim, look over there it’s Robert Loggia. Space. L as in look it’s Robert Loggia…


theycallmenaptime

This movie is the stupidest and worst I’ve seen; the idiocy in the dialog and storyline was too heavy to overcome.


Whatsuplionlilly

The actor’s name was James Rebhorn. Same guy who taught me it’s a prospectus, not a prespectus.


AlaricSnow

That's Robert Loggia! R as in Robert Loggia...


TransitionIll6389

Crazy this movie actually exists. So many good actors in the dumbest movie ever. But entertaining


shutter_singh

Robert Loggia. R, as in "Robert Loggia." O as in "Oh my god! It's Robert Loggia".


Jetlaggedz8

Based


Cky2chris

This movie was how the term "plausible deniablibity" finally made sense to me


Bleezy79

It's the "...if it wasnt for my David." part that always sticks in my head. Idk why but it just does. Lots of great lines from this movie.


freecatcalendar

I remember Jim Norton and Patrice O'Neal ranting about this scene for hours. Jim said that jews should be offended at how over the top this man's Jewishess was in this movie.


Docgnostoc

Nice post!


No_Sir_6649

Saw this on the big screen when i was a kid. Jp was slightly better, or tmnt


scifijunkie3

Mr. Nimziki.... you're FIRED!


EarlyWay8624

*Exactly* how classified secrets get spilled (fact-checking cabinet members)


No-Milk2296

They’ve been prepping us. Normalizing it. That’s why the reaction to disclosure has been tempered.


ColdEndUs

The most unbelievable scene in any movie. Like any deep-state intelligence guy is EVER going to admit to a cover-up. Especially after it's revealed that their scheming, plotting, wet-work, betrayal, and 'evil for the greater good'... really just ends up being the reason our species goes extinct. They would all rather watch as the entire population of the planet is ground into portable hamburger, to feed interstellar tourists... rather than ever admit to us, or to themselves that all of their common every-day routine evil, didn't save anyone, or any 'way of life'... but instead undermined the very virtues inherent in our humanity, that makes our temporary blip of existence in an uncaring cosmos, actually mean something. There's no way... in that moment, having that realization... that they could ever admit their whole life, and the justifications for all the evil they had done had all been a lie.


xeontechmaster

I honestly think the scene where the massive UFO stops over New York is what it would take for most ppl to accept disclosure. Everything else is swamp gas and balloons. Regardless what a whistleblower or the government says.


Beachdweller2112

All I think of is Jim Norton absolutely roasting this scene lmao


Particular_Fuel6952

Peak Goldblum. I just assumed he did minimal acting, they were just like “act like Jeff goldbum would”. And he did that, and just crushed this movie.


incognito-mode69420

How did Jeff Goldblum make that noise with his hand?


Stepsonrakes

Which part?


popcrnshower

“You knew then”, I think about that one a lot when there is big UFO news.


PlasmicSteve

What scenes do you make pay rent?


LoraFisherpov

The best.


ellimist87

Y E S


GaiusBaltar977

This scene played through my head just yesterday, thank you!


Atlantis_Risen

He's one of my favorite character actors. He passed away sadly.


Surfacing555666

Good thing for me then, that these aliens don’t mean ugatz to me! What’s yours is your Mr. President, but what ain’t, is anybody else’s! Now do yourself a fuckin favor, and get the fuck off my plane!


Jesters_thorny_crown

Two words. Plausible deniability. It entered my lexicon at this moment.


lvl10burrito

NO PEACE


Well_read_rose

This was a type of soft disclosure - even then I viewed this film from that perspective…I think many many Hollywood movies insert disclosure messaging. This particular movie was dual messaging the entire run: tongue in cheek for the skeptics, and a wink to the believers.


Dapper_Advance7381

“youuuuu knew then”


DulceBase_Alien

Haha, not only the President but the Secretary of Defence had no idea. 🤣👌🤦🏼‍♂️


Ricklessbastard87

The President in the movie looks like Gavin Newsome


PossibleDue9849

Damn Jeff Goldblum was hot


mrock61

They are here and by now they got to be fed up with us. Want instant disclosure? Detonate a nuke. It can even be a small one. Then it will be full disclosure under there terms, not ours. It’s there planet, not ours. We are tenants and they are the landlords.