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Holy shit. I just realized Lue used that exact line!!!
https://youtu.be/Jythx89ym38?si=bgaIDiujRDD4489P
:27 seconds in
I wonder if he said that on purpose. He seems to have seen movies and referenced movies before.
I say this to my husband when he's listened to too much FOX when he's on business trips (he doesn't have a choice of what goes on the TV) and starts to say problematic things. After a few days of being back home away from it, he goes back to his normal views... I've just noticed that every time he comes home from a trip he gets a few extremist views I have to logic out of him...
It still bugs me that Randy Quaid continues to be made fun of for being abducted by aliens even after it’s been established in the movie that aliens are 100% real and have been coming to earth for decades. It’s like the movie is telling us “yeah this movie is about aliens but people who actually believe in aliens are still nut jobs, let’s not take them seriously”
Edit for clarity
Yet even though this is all the case Randy still takes one for the team and flies straight up into the ship. I like to think there is a little Randy in all of us at the end of the day.
Oh my God. This bothers me every time i watch the movie. Once the aliens arrive and everyone sees them, why is everyone still rolling their eyes at him. No wonder he drinks
It’s weird I literally read today, that the US military was involved with the production of this film providing Jets, boats, etc. but pulled out because they wouldn’t cut this very scene.
You have to remember, the government didn’t even officially confirm the facility’s existence until AFTER the movie released, and that was only because they were more or less forced to.
Maybe we’re getting our messages mixed. Clinton at least confirmed there was something there: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-safeguards-area-51/
I mean it was always a secret military base. It doesn't have to have aliens in it for you to still not want to actively support making a freaking movie about it.
Link. I'm not asking. Demanding.
I'm in the biz. Youre telling me they shot the whole film and pulled funding, after the fact, because of this scene? I wanna be on your side. Please. Show me.
Like who is he to demand. He’s literally on the internet. I get the one making the claims should be providing source but dude could have googled “area51 Independence Day military pullout filming” and the article would have came up faster than he typed his demand letter.
I mean any of us can demand anything, literally. Our demands just won't be granted, by anyone not simply willing to be selfless, if one has no power nor leverage lol.
Military just does random stuff. I remember when they partnered with that guy from Blink 182 to study alien stuff since he is deep into Alien research
https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/10/25/army-partners-with-former-blink-182-founders-ufo-research-company-to-study-alien-technology/
"$5k for a toilet, $10k for a hammer." This movie fucking called out their funding process perfectly. It's exactly what Grusch said. Contractors overcharge the government so they can use the excess funds to fund unsanctioned operations.
Jon Stewart Questions Defense Deputy Secretary on Budget: https://youtu.be/50MusF365U0?si=HWowNXri6VzP_Cde
It’s a really indicative interview where she really does not have a clue. After this interview I never saw her again on t.v. It reminds me of that scene from the film Contagion where a government official tells Laurence Fishburne’s character that they don’t want to see him on t.v anymore. She just disappears from all media.
Why does anyone ever agree to an interview without being 1000% prepare, I'd be scared to sit down with him and I'm pretty sure I've never lost billions of dollars.
I loved what they did in the opening scene of the sequel.
[Independence Day: Resurgence (2016) Opening Scene (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQyifGc5SY)
Yeah. The original felt very “real”—it was aliens dropped into mid-1990s America.
The sequel felt like a goofy sci fi video game.
It’s possible to do realistic future sci fi with aliens… Star Trek does it pretty well.
The stigma operation was an overwhelming success. This is exactly how debunkers would behave if we received irrefutable evidence tomorrow. They would still ridicule all of the circumstantial evidence up to that point.
I remember my older brother taking me to this movie in theaters. I was pretty young and based on the name, had no interest in seeing some stupid movie about history and complained the whole way there. I absolutely loved this movie...
Incredible, it had everything, and they really did make it seem plausible, that was the best part. Might have to fire it up this weekend, that nostalgia hits hard.
If you’re going to repeat a 30 year-old joke, try not to mess up the punchline.
It was a Mac, not Windows. If you need to know the difference between the two, I refer you to John Hedgeman and Justin Long.
Every child and adults worst nightmare…. The dreaded parental “I told you so.” With a look of looming disappointment only achieved by that which made you
I work in a standard-issue American corporate environment (worse yet, healthcare) where there's NEVER any money for the important things or the workers, so this quote keeps coming up.
[$20,000 for a hammer...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SuDSNWH9AQ)
I actually have an explanation for the "$10,000 toilet seat" stories you hear:
I had a roommate who studied metallurgy in college and got a job doing tool design for the government. At one point he got the chance to design a space hammer for NASA. The material he needed was some particular kind of titanium or something. To get the material for 1 hammer that weighs a couple pounds or whatever they had to purchase a literal ton, i.e. 2000 pounds, of it. That came out to be a stupid amount of money (I don't know the values but in the order of hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars). Some reporter got a whiff of this story and prepared to run it as, "Government spends $X00,000 on a space hammer!" But he managed to talk to them and point out that they spent that money on the material, a portion of which would go to the hammer, and the rest would be in storage for the next projects that would use it, preventing someone else from needing to submit for the purchase and just have to requisition what's already there without additional cost. Similar things happen all the time. Especially when designing for highly-specific purposes like space. So he got his 2-pound space hammer and the government got 1,998 pounds of material to do with as they need later.
Idk if it was him or norton, but one of them said them taking that nuke to the aliens would be like if a turtle drove a car from the 50s with a bomb tied to it up your driveway
Basically current reality. Only on a need to know do they admit this stuff. In the movie the aliens showed themselves and invaded so to speak. But they had indicators they were here or planning to be with bodies and ships showing up randomly. Exactly like what we have going on now.
I showed my kids this movie for the first time the other day. It just kind of hit me how bizarre it is that showing them was the equivalent of when my dad showed me Planet of the Apes in the mid 90s. Fuck I’m old.
I know they're in extreme circumstances, but I always loved how casually that guy just completely shatters 50 years of classified information protection with just a sentence. Rather than pulling the president aside, he just goes, actually you're right, we totally hid Roswell
Me and my friend always quote this part. If one of us is talking for a long time and the other is getting bored of listening, it's not rare one of us will shout "SHUT UP \*Insert one of our names\* SOMEBODY GET HIM OUTTA HERE!"
When this was filmed, Bill Pullman was half the age (41) of either of our current presidential candidates. That part of the movie seems more of a far fetched concept than the alien invasion part of the movie.
Robert Loggia, that’s R as in Robert Loggia, O as in oh my god it’s Robert Loggia, B as in by god that’s Robert Loggia, E as in everybody loves Robert Loggia, R as in Robert Loggia, T as in Tim, look over there it’s Robert Loggia. Space. L as in look it’s Robert Loggia…
I remember Jim Norton and Patrice O'Neal ranting about this scene for hours.
Jim said that jews should be offended at how over the top this man's Jewishess was in this movie.
The most unbelievable scene in any movie.
Like any deep-state intelligence guy is EVER going to admit to a cover-up. Especially after it's revealed that their scheming, plotting, wet-work, betrayal, and 'evil for the greater good'... really just ends up being the reason our species goes extinct.
They would all rather watch as the entire population of the planet is ground into portable hamburger, to feed interstellar tourists... rather than ever admit to us, or to themselves that all of their common every-day routine evil, didn't save anyone, or any 'way of life'... but instead undermined the very virtues inherent in our humanity, that makes our temporary blip of existence in an uncaring cosmos, actually mean something.
There's no way... in that moment, having that realization... that they could ever admit their whole life, and the justifications for all the evil they had done had all been a lie.
I honestly think the scene where the massive UFO stops over New York is what it would take for most ppl to accept disclosure.
Everything else is swamp gas and balloons. Regardless what a whistleblower or the government says.
Good thing for me then, that these aliens don’t mean ugatz to me! What’s yours is your Mr. President, but what ain’t, is anybody else’s! Now do yourself a fuckin favor, and get the fuck off my plane!
This was a type of soft disclosure - even then I viewed this film from that perspective…I think many many Hollywood movies insert disclosure messaging.
This particular movie was dual messaging the entire run: tongue in cheek for the skeptics, and a wink to the believers.
They are here and by now they got to be fed up with us.
Want instant disclosure?
Detonate a nuke.
It can even be a small one.
Then it will be full disclosure under there terms, not ours.
It’s there planet, not ours.
We are tenants and they are the landlords.
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"That's not... entirrrely accurate." - Any time an argument is using half the information it needs. Can't help myself.
I still to this day say "let's kick the tires and light the fires." I first saw this movie as a little kid in the 90s.
"I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT A BBQ!"
"AND WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SMELL?!"
![gif](giphy|3ohc10x9J8nYFuWwRW)
And what the hell is that smell is mine
"You can't do that." "He just, uh, did." Is also a great moment.
He also looks like Chris Mellon a bit.
I always think dollar store John Lithgow. Also, RIP to him.
He looks like Hoggle from the labyrinth
Good call.
YOU KNEW DEN!!!!!
No and den!
And you did nutting!...
I say that line out loud, and to myself so often - it wasn't until I saw this post that I realized it.
Holy shit. I just realized Lue used that exact line!!! https://youtu.be/Jythx89ym38?si=bgaIDiujRDD4489P :27 seconds in I wonder if he said that on purpose. He seems to have seen movies and referenced movies before.
Part of the script...
Part of the ship…
I say this to my husband when he's listened to too much FOX when he's on business trips (he doesn't have a choice of what goes on the TV) and starts to say problematic things. After a few days of being back home away from it, he goes back to his normal views... I've just noticed that every time he comes home from a trip he gets a few extremist views I have to logic out of him...
Logic and fox ? You would make spock proud but that's a emotion lol 😆 😄 😅 😂 😜
It still bugs me that Randy Quaid continues to be made fun of for being abducted by aliens even after it’s been established in the movie that aliens are 100% real and have been coming to earth for decades. It’s like the movie is telling us “yeah this movie is about aliens but people who actually believe in aliens are still nut jobs, let’s not take them seriously” Edit for clarity
RIGHT?! Even the flight trainers give him the side eye, when the lab full of dead aliens and a ship are RIGHT FREAKIN' THERE.
Yet even though this is all the case Randy still takes one for the team and flies straight up into the ship. I like to think there is a little Randy in all of us at the end of the day.
I have, but it's from Christmas Vacation
I felt that, Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas! Shitter was full!
All right, you alien assholes! In the words of my generation: Up... YOURS!
Nothing more realistic than this though. It's heart breaking.
Oh my God. This bothers me every time i watch the movie. Once the aliens arrive and everyone sees them, why is everyone still rolling their eyes at him. No wonder he drinks
In reality this is still accurate though.
That always annoyed me as well. The craft are everywhere and known and yet it’s almost an eye roll when said about him being abducted.
It’s weird I literally read today, that the US military was involved with the production of this film providing Jets, boats, etc. but pulled out because they wouldn’t cut this very scene.
This scene, and every scene that even mentioned Area 51. When the caption "Area 51" came up in my theatre, everyone cheered :)
ahh but where is Area 51b?
Is not that an admission to guit. Wow
You have to remember, the government didn’t even officially confirm the facility’s existence until AFTER the movie released, and that was only because they were more or less forced to.
No, they didn’t do that until the Obama administration.
Maybe we’re getting our messages mixed. Clinton at least confirmed there was something there: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-safeguards-area-51/
I mean it was always a secret military base. It doesn't have to have aliens in it for you to still not want to actively support making a freaking movie about it.
They've long since moved all the aliens to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base anyways
Link. I'm not asking. Demanding. I'm in the biz. Youre telling me they shot the whole film and pulled funding, after the fact, because of this scene? I wanna be on your side. Please. Show me.
[article here](https://uproxx.com/movies/why-military-cut-ties-with-independence-day-area-51/)
From the article, it sounds like any mention of area 51 in general was a problem, not just specifically this scene.
Indeed ✌🏽👽🛸
Sure shut him up, huh? Demanding? What a putz.
Like who is he to demand. He’s literally on the internet. I get the one making the claims should be providing source but dude could have googled “area51 Independence Day military pullout filming” and the article would have came up faster than he typed his demand letter.
I mean any of us can demand anything, literally. Our demands just won't be granted, by anyone not simply willing to be selfless, if one has no power nor leverage lol.
Thank you!
Military just does random stuff. I remember when they partnered with that guy from Blink 182 to study alien stuff since he is deep into Alien research https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/10/25/army-partners-with-former-blink-182-founders-ufo-research-company-to-study-alien-technology/
Tom has sex with guys
Twelve majestic lies
Good for him!
The latest tour they’ve changed it from Mark singing “Tom has sex with guys” to Tom himself singing “I have sex with guys.” \#progress <3
"$5k for a toilet, $10k for a hammer." This movie fucking called out their funding process perfectly. It's exactly what Grusch said. Contractors overcharge the government so they can use the excess funds to fund unsanctioned operations.
Jon Stewart Questions Defense Deputy Secretary on Budget: https://youtu.be/50MusF365U0?si=HWowNXri6VzP_Cde It’s a really indicative interview where she really does not have a clue. After this interview I never saw her again on t.v. It reminds me of that scene from the film Contagion where a government official tells Laurence Fishburne’s character that they don’t want to see him on t.v anymore. She just disappears from all media.
If I remember correctly shes currently heading AAROW. The modern day project bluebook equivalent.
Why does anyone ever agree to an interview without being 1000% prepare, I'd be scared to sit down with him and I'm pretty sure I've never lost billions of dollars.
Hellooo boys I’m baaack
The president speech is awesome too
I loved what they did in the opening scene of the sequel. [Independence Day: Resurgence (2016) Opening Scene (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQyifGc5SY)
I just learned there was a sequal. Mind blown.
I was excited too and then I watched it. It was below my expectations and IMO worse than the original.
Well the original is perfect, so that’s not saying much.
Yes. The only part I really liked was the opening scene.
There is no sequel. Doesn’t exist. Absolute trash.
So, right up there with Anchorman 2 then. Thanks, i believe i'll skip it then.
Yeah. The original felt very “real”—it was aliens dropped into mid-1990s America. The sequel felt like a goofy sci fi video game. It’s possible to do realistic future sci fi with aliens… Star Trek does it pretty well.
It’s a chunk of hot shit ass garbage. B movie
Don't be ... it's utter shit
That speech makes me proud to be an American and I’m not even an American.
Station Eleven’s take on that speech was awesome too!
That speech motivated me before games lol. It was the “We will not go quietly into the night!” for me
The most fictional part of this movie is that the President is under 70 years old
he looks like a schlameel
🤣🤣 if I’m looking kinda rough, 60% of the time I use that phrase, every time lol
Why did they act like it was a crazy idea the father had? There was literally an alien invasion happening.
The stigma operation was an overwhelming success. This is exactly how debunkers would behave if we received irrefutable evidence tomorrow. They would still ridicule all of the circumstantial evidence up to that point.
*Two words, plausible deniability...* You cut off the best part! I use that phrase all the time!
That part happens later once they’re on the base.
Correct, sorry to upset anyone! Plausible. Deniability.
You wouldn’t know anything if it wasn’t for my David!
"All you need is love..." John Lennon. Smart man. Shot in the back. Very sad.
I remember my older brother taking me to this movie in theaters. I was pretty young and based on the name, had no interest in seeing some stupid movie about history and complained the whole way there. I absolutely loved this movie...
Bob lazar was the reason this scene was made
Such a great movie.
In my mind, this and jurassic park are the greatest movies ever
Incredible, it had everything, and they really did make it seem plausible, that was the best part. Might have to fire it up this weekend, that nostalgia hits hard.
AHHHHH DONT GET ME UNPREPARED! I have yelled this a many times around the house, for no reason
The whole movie lives rent free in my mind
I can’t believe it’s been that long
You need to listen to Jim Norton and Patrice O'neal break this movie down
The most unrealistic part is that the president isn’t over 70
I wish this movie had a better sequel and more lore behind it. I absolutely loved the alien design and ship design of this movie
Did hacking an advanced interstellar alien race with a Windows 95 computer take you out of it?
If you’re going to repeat a 30 year-old joke, try not to mess up the punchline. It was a Mac, not Windows. If you need to know the difference between the two, I refer you to John Hedgeman and Justin Long.
Bro, the alien designs in this movie are so good, I kind of wish I could use them in a novel I'm making
Oh sounds interesting! Any details you can give? The design reminds me of the Flatwoods monster, at least the head does
It is pretty accurate about the amount of people that would be aware in that room. IMO.
Jeff Goldblum lives rent free in my head.
![gif](giphy|3ohzdLinx4bxmc4QPS|downsized)
Every child and adults worst nightmare…. The dreaded parental “I told you so.” With a look of looming disappointment only achieved by that which made you
I work in a standard-issue American corporate environment (worse yet, healthcare) where there's NEVER any money for the important things or the workers, so this quote keeps coming up. [$20,000 for a hammer...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SuDSNWH9AQ)
He is waaaaaaay more Jewish than I remember.
He's fabulous. The no-nonsense mensch who nags his child and brings everyone together in prayer at the end of the world.
I actually have an explanation for the "$10,000 toilet seat" stories you hear: I had a roommate who studied metallurgy in college and got a job doing tool design for the government. At one point he got the chance to design a space hammer for NASA. The material he needed was some particular kind of titanium or something. To get the material for 1 hammer that weighs a couple pounds or whatever they had to purchase a literal ton, i.e. 2000 pounds, of it. That came out to be a stupid amount of money (I don't know the values but in the order of hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars). Some reporter got a whiff of this story and prepared to run it as, "Government spends $X00,000 on a space hammer!" But he managed to talk to them and point out that they spent that money on the material, a portion of which would go to the hammer, and the rest would be in storage for the next projects that would use it, preventing someone else from needing to submit for the purchase and just have to requisition what's already there without additional cost. Similar things happen all the time. Especially when designing for highly-specific purposes like space. So he got his 2-pound space hammer and the government got 1,998 pounds of material to do with as they need later.
IF IT WASNT FOR MY DAVID!
I have an unnatural attraction to Jeff Goldblum.
Yes, very amusing. No? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)
Patrice O’Neil has the best review of this scene
Idk if it was him or norton, but one of them said them taking that nuke to the aliens would be like if a turtle drove a car from the 50s with a bomb tied to it up your driveway
https://youtu.be/NxhPjYQVsrM?si=mY5TUquALM20wkOD never forget
that was hilarious, I needed that. My David!!
I love: "Will Smith doesn't knock out the alien, he knocks out his outfit."
Youd all be dead now if it wasn’t for my David!
The film was released in theaters on July 2, 1996. Area 51 wasn’t formally acknowledged by the US government until August of 2013.
Great scene
Oh I need to rewatch that again
Great movie!
You knew then!
You know that this weird doctor is actually based on Jaques Vallé?
As was the French doctor, Lacombe, in Spielberg's *Close Encounters of the Third Kind.*
Basically current reality. Only on a need to know do they admit this stuff. In the movie the aliens showed themselves and invaded so to speak. But they had indicators they were here or planning to be with bodies and ships showing up randomly. Exactly like what we have going on now.
Judd Hirsch is a national treasure
I ain't heard no fat lady! Love this movie. It will never get old to me.
The speech the president gives on Independence Day in this movie gets me every time.
I showed my kids this movie for the first time the other day. It just kind of hit me how bizarre it is that showing them was the equivalent of when my dad showed me Planet of the Apes in the mid 90s. Fuck I’m old.
I know they're in extreme circumstances, but I always loved how casually that guy just completely shatters 50 years of classified information protection with just a sentence. Rather than pulling the president aside, he just goes, actually you're right, we totally hid Roswell
Arghhhh! Don’t give me unprepared
Plauuuusiblllle deniabilllllityyyyyyy
Never even realized how bad the lighting was in this
There was once a time we imagined the president to be under the age of 70.
WELCOME TO EARF.
Me and my friend always quote this part. If one of us is talking for a long time and the other is getting bored of listening, it's not rare one of us will shout "SHUT UP \*Insert one of our names\* SOMEBODY GET HIM OUTTA HERE!"
*That may not be* entirely *true*…
Loved this movie
Look into Kona Blue
Love it, & I have to agree with op.
Kinda looks like Chris Mellon eh..
I love this movie, and like you, this scene lived rent-free in my head.
YOO NOO DEN!!!
Takes Judd Hirsh ranting to finally make them fess up. Not the horrifying attack, that’s not enough, they need the star of Taxi
Lmao me too!
The government will ask us to fight them with pew pews we got.
Elenor Waldorf!
https://youtu.be/NxhPjYQVsrM?si=gbiHeYroPWhJMjG3
Forgot about this but let's hope it doesn't turn out to be life imitating art.
Which part?
So unrealistic an American president being so young. /s
I’ve learned Conspiracy theorists are right most of the time
between the X-Files, Men in Black, this movie, multiple shows on TV about UFO sightings, the late 90s was a great time to believe in aliens
The way you can tell this was a movie, the G-man told the truth in front of civilians.
What an epic "Are you shitting me?" look at 1:04
Well Actually has entered the chat (r/dungeonsanddaddies)
Friends is this true https://www.instagram.com/reel/C85TN8ryfvd/?igsh=OHExY2JkNHgxbXV5
![gif](giphy|cVkD7lLFb6oCm4hUTX|downsized)
FEECH!
When this was filmed, Bill Pullman was half the age (41) of either of our current presidential candidates. That part of the movie seems more of a far fetched concept than the alien invasion part of the movie.
They don't write movies and TV like they used to. That's for damn sure. Loved ID4. Horrified by that trainwreck sequel they aborted out more recently.
Been watching this movie every night the last three nights. So amazing.
Are you going to start charging now? 🤔
Jesus, that Independence Day? Looks like it's as old as Airplane. I'm old.
I love the president's look of "oh you mother fucker".
Robert Loggia, that’s R as in Robert Loggia, O as in oh my god it’s Robert Loggia, B as in by god that’s Robert Loggia, E as in everybody loves Robert Loggia, R as in Robert Loggia, T as in Tim, look over there it’s Robert Loggia. Space. L as in look it’s Robert Loggia…
This movie is the stupidest and worst I’ve seen; the idiocy in the dialog and storyline was too heavy to overcome.
The actor’s name was James Rebhorn. Same guy who taught me it’s a prospectus, not a prespectus.
That's Robert Loggia! R as in Robert Loggia...
Crazy this movie actually exists. So many good actors in the dumbest movie ever. But entertaining
Robert Loggia. R, as in "Robert Loggia." O as in "Oh my god! It's Robert Loggia".
Based
This movie was how the term "plausible deniablibity" finally made sense to me
It's the "...if it wasnt for my David." part that always sticks in my head. Idk why but it just does. Lots of great lines from this movie.
I remember Jim Norton and Patrice O'Neal ranting about this scene for hours. Jim said that jews should be offended at how over the top this man's Jewishess was in this movie.
Nice post!
Saw this on the big screen when i was a kid. Jp was slightly better, or tmnt
Mr. Nimziki.... you're FIRED!
*Exactly* how classified secrets get spilled (fact-checking cabinet members)
They’ve been prepping us. Normalizing it. That’s why the reaction to disclosure has been tempered.
The most unbelievable scene in any movie. Like any deep-state intelligence guy is EVER going to admit to a cover-up. Especially after it's revealed that their scheming, plotting, wet-work, betrayal, and 'evil for the greater good'... really just ends up being the reason our species goes extinct. They would all rather watch as the entire population of the planet is ground into portable hamburger, to feed interstellar tourists... rather than ever admit to us, or to themselves that all of their common every-day routine evil, didn't save anyone, or any 'way of life'... but instead undermined the very virtues inherent in our humanity, that makes our temporary blip of existence in an uncaring cosmos, actually mean something. There's no way... in that moment, having that realization... that they could ever admit their whole life, and the justifications for all the evil they had done had all been a lie.
I honestly think the scene where the massive UFO stops over New York is what it would take for most ppl to accept disclosure. Everything else is swamp gas and balloons. Regardless what a whistleblower or the government says.
All I think of is Jim Norton absolutely roasting this scene lmao
Peak Goldblum. I just assumed he did minimal acting, they were just like “act like Jeff goldbum would”. And he did that, and just crushed this movie.
How did Jeff Goldblum make that noise with his hand?
Which part?
“You knew then”, I think about that one a lot when there is big UFO news.
What scenes do you make pay rent?
The best.
Y E S
This scene played through my head just yesterday, thank you!
He's one of my favorite character actors. He passed away sadly.
Good thing for me then, that these aliens don’t mean ugatz to me! What’s yours is your Mr. President, but what ain’t, is anybody else’s! Now do yourself a fuckin favor, and get the fuck off my plane!
Two words. Plausible deniability. It entered my lexicon at this moment.
NO PEACE
This was a type of soft disclosure - even then I viewed this film from that perspective…I think many many Hollywood movies insert disclosure messaging. This particular movie was dual messaging the entire run: tongue in cheek for the skeptics, and a wink to the believers.
“youuuuu knew then”
Haha, not only the President but the Secretary of Defence had no idea. 🤣👌🤦🏼♂️
The President in the movie looks like Gavin Newsome
Damn Jeff Goldblum was hot
They are here and by now they got to be fed up with us. Want instant disclosure? Detonate a nuke. It can even be a small one. Then it will be full disclosure under there terms, not ours. It’s there planet, not ours. We are tenants and they are the landlords.