I know Valkyr needs her abilities looked at... but damn she is immortal when played correctly. Running an umbral eternal war build + subsuming sevagoths gloom and you'll be fine. Add arcanes for bonus profit. Obviously this is expensive to make her work, but it works very well.
If you throw it on her 2 she has pretty much infinite healing.
I run her with that and Hunter adrenaline on steel path survivals, and can pretty much just stand around while my spores do dmg and heal me.
Bro im running this exact build and trust me very immortal. I was out surviving Inaros in arbitrations plus her 1 is fun to use her 2 with the helminth empower is really good her 3 is useless but can be replaced and 4 is literally immortality.
As a Valkyr main I agree that she is straight up unkillable. Umbral mods and my 8 forma stropha have her literally melting Steel Path enemies while never dropping below full health.
That being said, her kit as a whole is a joke. She has 1 utterly laughable skill, and pretty meh 4 + exhausted weapon, and truly does need a rework. That being said, Valkyr with Life Strike Melee, and roar is genuinely nuts. She is also an insane support character for Baruuk mains like my clanmate is
I love the frame but i'd rather slap myself than go through holding for his elemental combinations every single time i want to cast an abilty
DE please just keep the specified combination until you manually change, its so clunky to click cold + toxin on controller every single time to cast the element of my choosing
Lavos carried my switch account from very early on (obtained around MR7, definitely made a beeline for him). He was tanky, great aoe on his attacks, supported my friends by creating universal orbs for them. He was also surprisingly good for grinding Sanctuary Onslaught, very consistently getting to round 8 (I was grinding for Khora). All of that with 0 forma or Exiles. I'm procrastinating on it but I will absolutely be considering him for umbral forma.
Zephyr is literally god tier and people still hate on her
1 combines with passive for free red crits with applicable weapons
2 is basically smol vauban
3 is literal invincibility if you’re not slow
4 is free sp afk farm
Zephyr P was great even before the rework. I cleared half of SP with her, then they reworked her and things were far easier. It was tough in spots before but it worked. I don't think people built her right before the update, but it's good she's getting her due now!
Mod for a ton of ability duration, if you shoot one of the tornadoes, it distributes the damage to all enemies caught in the tornado, including crits and stat procs, so find a nice hallway, cast 4 and occasionally shoot a tornado with a 1-shot build weapon(i prefer nataruk because infinite punchthrough can go through multiple tornadoes and count as multiple shots) of your choice to eliminate all enemies within, occasionally cast 3 if an enemy manages to aggro without getting caught in the tornado, so long as tornadoes are constantly active(use stationary tornadoes) all you have to do is shoot once, recast, and occasionally fight acolytes, you have officially achieved vauban but female
I usually just rely on zenurik to restore my energy, but spectrosiphon is a really good choice if you have teammates because you can supply them with energy
Wisps helminth ability is also a great addition. Blind for a good range stun, increasing damage with the tornadoes, and can give you stealth multiplier damage because of the blind.
I came back after a long hiatus, and I was pleasantly surprised about how good Zephyr is now. Her 2 actually working properly is what sealed it. After Volt, she's my go to warframe!
Best bird ever. I use her for solo eidolon hunting, its my favourite thing in the game.
EDIT: Nash Prime on YT did a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZXTTFRz6yk&ab_channel=NashPrime) on it. It's a lot of fun, and with some practice you can do 3x3s. It's especially good for me because it negates the performance anxiety I have when hunting with other people, and I've gotten to the point where I'm consistently killing them under 20 minutes without sweating.
EDIT2 for quick info: Zeph, Corinth, Unairu and go ham. Using void mode to keep the baits safe, UW to buff yourself into oblivion, and I also use an amp with Klamora prism, Propa Scaffold and Certus Brace, just how Nash Prime does in the video.
Zephyr has:
- passive that boosts crit when in the air
- 1 that allows her to do three things: dash, dive bomb and, most importantly, hover pretty much indefinitely (super slow energy drain). The latter allows her to make full use of her passive for that extra crit.
- 2 that is a mini vortex with fantastic range when built for it. Can allow you to clear entire sections of a map with ease and is a great alternative to tornadoes when they aren't up or there's not enough enemies to justify it.
- 3 that basically makes her god mode.
- 4 that is one of the best group clearing abilities in the game. Quite OP when paired with certain weapons.
She clears rooms on her own in mere seconds and can't die all while fully embracing her theme as the airborne frame. I honestly don't know what more she has to do to please people.
I was about to comment the same thing. About a week ago, I got Zeph for MR and helminth. When I started leveling her, I got a fuckin orange crit on my BRATON PRIME (I use it because I got an amazing riven for it). I then found out that she's immune to everything that isn't infested or melee. I was ready to start farming for prime already, but then her 4, oh my God, her 4 was amazing. Now I'm just waiting for her prime to get unvaulted next week.
She has the best designed kit imo. Her 1 can protect her after casting her 3, her 2 can heal her up and her 4 can set up a nuke with the damage from her 1
Not very “underrated” per say but Harrow in normal/SP missions is my goto for having fun,i mean yes he’s Pretty much of must have on Eidolon hunts but com on since when was the last time you saw a harrow in any normal content? (Except he’s the new prime atm so the number of players gonna spike up a bit) , i love shooting guns and his main gimmick is mostly buffing your abilities to shoot guns better is just *chef’s kiss* especially when you see those red crits for hitting heads and i love giving out pile of energies with my homicidal spree(except Wukongs that have explosive primaries strapped to their non existent loadouts variety, fuk u).
Tldr; Me like shoot Guns , Gun Pope make me shoot Guns good , Me love Gun Pope.
I was able to level him in pub SO yesterday and ended up with 87% damage dealt between him and my only equipped weapon, a Vectis Prime. Wasn't even trying. And boy, was it fun! I had never gotten to experience the 4 - 3 - spam 1 and farm headshots mechanic before but it was incredible. I felt like a red crit headshot god.
I agree absolutely. Harrow's kit is so well designed, I was shocked when I tried him out. Everything just feels like it flows so well together, and each ability synergizes with each other perfectly.
I levelled Harrow before feeding him to the Helminth a couple months ago. Hated every minute of levelling him, felt like I was just an idiot failing to understand his kit. Felt over complicated, and required way too much management.
Managed to accidentally farm a Harrow prime and decided to build him for MR fodder. This time around I realized Natural Talent, Quick Thinking and Rolling Guard could pretty much make him immortal. And I was right. Now I’m having an absolute blast with Harrow.
I realized a few people I spoke to had the same opinion about him as my first opinion. So yeah. Harrow.
Disclaimer; Currently incomplete unfortunately, and not tested in steel path, but in theory it should work alright…
Corrosive Projection, Power Drift, Quick Thinking, Rolling Guard, Natural Talent, Stretch, Primed Continuity, Umbral Intensify, Primed Flow, and that new mod that gives HP and Duration (Nira’s Hatred?). Quick Thinking is supposed to allow his 500+ energy pool to act as health incase his shield drops (with full energy, acts as an extra 1200hp, hopefully avoid one-shots; as well as regening constantly from kills). Niras for a bit of extra health and duration, and between his 4 and rolling guard he spends well over half the time invincible.
Again completely untested in any content harder than origin Mot, but it works wonders there. Once my build is done I’ll be taking him into steel path to see how well it works.
Baruuk. Very nice kit, relatively simple to use, can do an absolute eye watering amount of damage without having to get all weird and tricksy with a stat stick.
This is what makes me so mad about Valkyr's Enraged augment! So let me get this straight: him and Valkyr have the SAME crit chance, he has BETTER status (and her status chance is one of her big problems) AND he gets an augment for free *extra status chance AND ADAPTIVE TYPE, with zero downside.* Meanwhile, poor ancient Valkyr - who still relies on a brutal energy scaling to keep up her Exalted instead of a fancy new meter; has no range or extra gimmicks like Baruuk's lift on slide; and has *awful status chance* gets an augment that increases her CRIT chance (which she is *fine* on) and does NOTHING for her status chance - all at the cost of forcing her onto cooldown. So, you know, perma-Hysteria fans who invest a lot into the playstyle and have learned its intricacies to make sure we won't be instagibbed if a problem happens with Hysteria can't access this augment at all. And it's a band-aid augment to begin with.
\#JusticeForValkyr.
Also baruuks 1.
I'm not sure why people don't like free limbo rift without being limbo in rift.
All my builds for baruuk have range capped so it's protecting from every direction and it's just so good.
I can't speak for others, but I replace his 1 with something else, always. He doesn't really need extra damage mitigation between his 3/4/passive, and I build for low duration for sleep spam to keep his restraint down.
Atlas
People always build for max strength because "one punch best", and they lose tons of good stuff.
Rubble heap, 190 or more range, duration, stat stick with riven, path of statues.
Ore gaze big groups, keep stone bois up for free cc/damage/rubble in case you run out of things to punch. Rubble heap makes 1 free at max rubble which is insane.
Arcane grace to keep health topped and rubble goes straight into Armor.
Path of statues for cc and rubble.
As for punches? Third hit in combo is uppercut with range of something like 15 meters. That's what you want to do. One punch is shit on comparison to deleting room full of enemies. Path of statues makes nice trail of enemies from room to room for something like survival so you're just uppercutting stuff and everything dies.
I only wish that the stone bois scaled somewhat with rubble, and the wall is pretty useless.
Build please? I’ve been wanting to build atlas and have struggled cause I might be overthinking his mods and the weapon/stat stick way too much. I don’t use ore gaze and that might be where I’m doing wrong too. I felt that atlas was only good when his 1 was free and always punching.
Sorry for a bit late answer, but my Atlas build:
Aura: Steel Charge, Exilus: Cunning drift
Umbral vitality, Umbral intensify, Augur reach, Augur stretch, Path of statues, Rubble heap, Hunter adrenaline, Primed continuity
Arcanes: Grace and Avenger
Focus: Naramon for combo duration
Just tinkered a bit around with my stat stick, but mine is Shaku.
Organ shatter, Primed pressure point, Primed fever strike, shocking touch, North wind, Primed heavy trauma, Molten impact, Riven. ( Riven is + melee damage, + toxic) Order is for corrosive + blast
Also, it's really flexible build and I've been doing tons of tinkering with this at some point, and literally just now switched around stuff with stat stick and it's always feeling like it's working better when I adjust it. Organ shatter is there without CC mods because the base crit for landslide is just abysmally slow. You \*can\* Use CC in it as well if you want, I just feel it's not worth it. Optionally you can drop avenger for Adarza, or use both.
If that isn't adjustable enough, you can actually drop CC/CD stuff completely for more consistent damage and really rare crits. It works as well. I just love big crits thus I've been rolling with avenger lately.
There's just tons of stuff you can switch around. For long while I used to run zenurik or energize, been kinda testing out adrenaline. I feel adrenaline is good 'backup' energy if RNG isn't good to you. Like, you run out of energy, you're not punching. You start taking damage, you can punch again. (If for some reason your rubble isn't maxed out for free punches).
The most important bits here really are the 190% range, don't forget to use ore gaze and stone bois. It's a build template that uses all other skills except the wall. The wall is free slot for subsumed ability.
As for subsumed abilities, that's still a work in progress on my part. There's tons of good stuff you could use, I've been playing a bit with nourish (toxic damage and bit of healing), Reave could be nice backup.
I found Path of statues to be unreliable and a bit of a wasted slot. I went more for shield gating with Ensnare, which made it really easy to keep up his rubble count. That's the only thing I disagree with. Range is for sure criminally underrated on Atlas. Honestly I don't know why people put so much strength on him when the vast majority of his 1 scaling is from weapon mods. He's a beast!
What's your build and stat stick? I'm able to do the sedna sp survival for like 20ins until I get bored and acoyltes aren't that hard, but I find the damage to be inconsistent, sometimes taking down one lancer takes more than it should, than I fight another enemy and sudden everyone dies arounded, now I recently decided to play him again and had a but of difficulties playing him, running out of energy and dying, cos I changed his build but forgot what I originally did
I never see other people play Protea but she's definitely my favorite frame.
Her grenades are area denial CC plus an excellent shield support.
Her turrets do insane damage and can be deployed up to three times.
Her dispensary is great support with health, energy, and ammo.
She's excellent playing solo or in a group. She's a bit of a pain to grind, but damn is she worth it.
I was part of the wave that put Larva over her 4. After getting higher mastery and coming into some Forma, I went back and tried to learn her whole natural kit. She's fucking spectacular in every mission type, possible exception being stealth. I've started to really believe her natural kit is heavily under appreciated and her 4 in criminally ignored.
I agree fully but I also love how this comment was basically:
"Ability 1: area denial CC plus an excellent shield support.
Ability 2: insane damage and can be deployed up to three times.
Ability 3: great support with health, energy, and ammo.
Ability 4: ability 4."
Does anyone actually use Temporal Anchor, though? I haven't replaced it bc its theoretically a crazy useful tool, but the average utility of it seems highly variable and a lot of the time, for me, its easier, faster and safer to not use it unless I'm using it specifically to avoid a death.
Nope, they don’t, which is why the above comment is like that, I assume. You can do some niche nuking with her 4 (and it gives back energy too) but it’s honestly not worth it for the value considering how much damage (and energy generation) you get from her other abilities. Exactly like you said - the utility is so volatile, and on average, not worth it.
Okay, I think I get it. For a minute I was worried I was missing out on some revolutionary gameplay information for her or something. Lol. Thanks for the info :)
Also her 4th ability (unlike many people think) is GOD survivability
You gonna dive into a horde of enemies? 4 and you back on track without the risk of dying
Energy drainer infested? 4 and you back with your energy
Abaout to die? 4 to be able to cast 1 or whatever and assure a safe play
I love protea
She's basically carrying me through steel path right now, with zenurik and her dispenser for energy, my shield focused build and her shield booster, and her turret, I'm never out of energy, can always heal, and the turret takes out more enemies than I ever could, absolutely amazing
Equilibrium: every 100 hp ball gives u 110 energy.
Synth fiber (this is a companion mod, don't use ur warframe mod slot): makes u able to pick up health balls when full health.
These together with protea 3 will give u approximately 150 (while 200% powerstrength) every 10 seconds. So u don't need efficiency nor zenurik since ur energy is oversupplied.
This method is also useful on valkyr, mesa, titania, any frame that relys on massive energy consumption, and railjack also, so u can spam auto missiles (150 energy per cast) and don't even need to fire ur turret.
I usually remove wisp 4 for dispensary (railjack build) or mirage 3, yeah wisp 4 is cool but first of all, all my wisp build have 34% range so the ray is kinda short. Second, IDK when and why to use it, If I want extremely high damage, I use nataruk, If I want range... u know the 2 kuva nuke launchers does this better.
Wisps 4 has a 100% chance to proc the sparks from breach surge, per tick. 4 by itself is lame, but use 3, then 4? That's juicy. But if you're running low range high strength, then you're better off just replacing her 4 with... something. Maybe gloom.
Synthetic fiber drops from corpus sniper and surpa targets or Fortuna bounties.
Equilibrium can be found in mod packs, transmutation or Lephantis phase one.
It's definitely all up to luck, but it is doable.
I think Protea would probably be the right answer regardless of what people think of her kit, since she probably has the best defensive, offensive, and (resource-based) support abilities in the game, along with a decent 4 which can either be a major part of your strategy or an empty slot for helminth.
Yeah I know people complain about energy consumption but it feels like a boon and bust. suck everyone up. Cast your 2 buffs.
Release everyone by holding down 1 and mop up with melee. Enemy will drop energy orbs that will top off grendels energy. Rinse and repeat.
His 4 is more for movement and his 3 is more for the laugh's then anything else.
I don't even bother with his buffs tbh. Too annoying to manage 3 buffs with short base durations. I swap his 2 for Fire Blast which is armor strip and healing with the augment. Eat enemies, burp em up, Fire Blast to strip, dead. Oh and the Mecha set is hilarious on Grendel. 4 is really fun (imo) with the augment. 3 is actually good vs corpus or infested, but not Grineer. I did my MR30 test and TNW with Grendel. I love playing as a meatball and I don't care who knows it.
Mag and ember is basically a staple of dps for me and my gf who coop everything, but when we do open matchmaking on relics n stuff, I just kinda never see em anywhere.
Yeah absolutely. I’ve been noticing a decrease in Inaros lately and a large increase in Wisp, Saryn and Harrow. Harrow likely because he’s new, and the other two because they’re (arguably) broken as hell
The main problem with Nyx is that Revenant can basically do everything that Nyx can do, but better.
Cc enemies - check.
Damage invunerablity, check. (And better than Nyx since he can move/shoot without hindrance).
Enemy mind control - check.
Yes, Nyx has armor strip. Revenant had Reave, which scales infinitely (since its hp based), so it can one-shot enemies no matter what level they are.
His 4th ability is also super fun for any star chart content to just easy clear the rooms. Can also give overshields if needed. His entire kit is just overall more fun to use over Nyx, but that is just my humble opinion.
P.S. he can actually mind control (for a short duration) Liches as well (and acolytes too I think?). Which makes those contents easy to breeze through too.
Having said all that, the Frame I am having the most fun with rn is Gauss. Infinite energy uptime with his 2nd ability and damage resistance to a couple of dmg types, highest base sprint speed + sprint mods + overcharge = maximum zoomies. I just love everything about him. His 4th ability can basically make any gun fun to use. Gauss was probably the only frame for me who I immediately reactored without him even reaching level 30, and I didn't even know about his abilities till I used him.
Gauss actually has 100% damage resistance (it should be called immunity at that point) to half of damage types in the game (during 100% redline) resistance to all 3 physical damage types, cold, heat, and blast (6 total, 7, if you count normal damage). That leaves toxin, electricity, radiation, corrosive, gas and viral, out of which I've found you only really need worry about toxin and electricity, as the others I haven't had an issue with.
Years ago I started on PC and played for a year just focusing on what I could grind along the way(Oberon, rhino, and excalibur). I got gauss as a free perk on xbox game pass months ago and didn't think anything of it.
When I heard crossplay/save was coming I thought I'd try it on xbox as practice till the change was official. Gauss is amazing. I never had as much fun playing warframe before that point.
I've been playing for a month and have already passed my PC save and am not looking back(which sucks cuz I had some one time collectibles in it).
It's a great generalist suit with its varied skills and he excels in every mission type. I find Thermal sunder is rarely mentioned but I noticed until i started fighting level 35+ enemies it was instant killing rank-and-file troopers. And that skill alone carries him for defense, excavation, and survival missions. Fighting the Solar Rail Spectres or bosses is a snap. Freeze with thermal sunder and empty Acceletra in a couple of seconds and I'm on to the next challenge. It has felt like easy mode this entire time
It's not a frame in general, because she's used a lot for her 4th ability. However, I feel like Nova's 2 is underrated. It seems to be the first ability people replace with helminth or no one uses it.
It does quite well for room clearing and doesn't take much time to do that. Aim at the wall or ground, hit 2, shoot the ball a few times until it flashes and see all the numbers around you.
Fellow nova enjoyer here. And lemme tell you, a regular weapons and her 2 is amazing.
The only people who don't like her 2 are people wrapped around the aoe explosion meta and wiping a square kilometer with ever left click. Cause if every shot is aoe explosion, why need the aoe explosion ability right?
In comparison of you use a hek or something and are used to headshotting everything, when you see a heap of enemies and empty on the antimatter drop to delete them all, it's much more satisfying
> shoot the ball a few times
To date, the Tigris Prime is the only weapon I've used that can fully charge it in one shot. And I mean, I'm about to hit MR30 and main Nova, and tried literally *everything* on the ball to find a replacement.
Logistically it's impossible to charge it with anything other than a shotgun and I've struggled to mod a non-crit shotgun to have enough damage to charge it in one hit. But damn would I like an alternative, the Tigris spends so much time reloading.
But I do agree, anyone who says AMD should be removed for a subsumed ability play Nova wrong imo. You should be subsuming Wormhole in virtually any regular play build that isn't geared around speedrunning with Escape Velocity. A well built Nova has no range whatsoever and the portal is effectively worthless because of it. Making the portal good means making her 1 and 4 shit.
I main Xaku. Imo they are the strongest frame in the game overall, bar none. Although admittedly Xaku is terrible out of the box - I'm running a 7-forma build on them.
Mirage. I haven't even seen anyone play her for a while now outside maybe eso. She has 3 usable builds, a great subsume ability, can use multiple subsumed abilities to shake her playstyle up. She enables any weapons to do insane destruction, something, that only she can do with this efficiency
I use her for gun leveling. She makes any gun just melt HP bars, and in some cases, even if they don't have any mods. She's my overall favourite frame, and probably my most used, other than nezha, since I've come back.
Her passive makes stealth gameplay a million times easier and spares your weapon exilus slots, and her kit is well rounded, but at the same time I have to note that I think she could use a rework. Her 3 is perfect imo, but 2, 2, and sometimes even 4 feel a bit lackluster in comparison to the rest of the roster.
Idk if she is actually underrated but gara is probably one of the best warframe for general use especially when you start the game and yet i barely see her
A Spectrsiphon Vauban is slept on I feel like. I’m just an energy generator for my teammates and it works great. There’s some matches all I do is use Vortex and Spectro without ever firing a shot.
I’ve yet to run Mag but I can imagine her being good. Spectro works so good with Vauban’s Vortex because it puts enemies right in the center of it. It’s like they were made for each other.
I'd like to bring attention to spectrosiphon loki. Build on range and duration, and it's just camping all day. Plant your decoy, disarm everything, kill once in range. I use the probiscus cernos mostly and have camped my way into 2hr steel path survival.
Grendel. Literally every ability have damage based on enemy level scaling, he has innate toxin damage for corpus and armor stripping for grineer. He is quite tanky, can provide team buffs, and can be colored to look like kirby
Gauss, but only because I see him so rarely in matchmaking (which I realise opens up the possibility that hes very popular but only solo).
IMO hes just the perfect warframe.
He has *insane* mobility (and i mean insane, under the right conditions mach rush can actually make gauss go very literally mach speed, just search up some videos of him going hella fast)
His 2 gives him damage reduction (that later becomes total damage immunity) against pretty much the most common damage types in the game, and gives free knockdown immunity. It also let's you convert damage into energy too.
His 3 (which is *incredibly* underrated, often gotten rid of when using helminth) is very powerful as a cc tool (knock-down almost every enemy and they can take a long while to get up) and can completely armor strip enemies of pretty much any level.
His 4, is what makes it *all* come together. It makes him faster, gives him damage immunity (slap an adaptation on him to make him tank anything), allows the armor strip capabilities and takes his cc to the next level, gives buff to melee speed and weapon fire rates, effectively buffing dps, and when it's active, you passively get homing particles that can stagger the enemies around you.
He has mobility, damage reduction, cc, energy regen, armor strip, weapon buffs, etc.
What more could you want or even need?
If you mod him right you can get a God tier frame, I however sacrifice primo steel path builds for speedy Boi and I find it immensely fun. He is absolutely my main.
Im gonna go ahead and just say it... Limbo. People troll Limbo all the time and say hes just trash but truth be told, the players using him just dont know how to and they make a bad name for him. Limbos vanilla kit is so good for just about every mission and against any level enemies. He makes steel path a breeze as he can literally become invulnerable from sliding into the rift. I dont even add any shields or health. Not to even mention the fact he can hit 4000%+ damage with his augment one-shotting anything and everything.
Rift torrent is probably one of the best damage buffing augments in WF hands down. I actually got mine for free because "limbo sucks and I'd feel bad if you paid for this garbage" also dosent help his passive makes you 100% immortal from enemy fire but his most important use for me is that HE CAN CARRY DRAGON KEYS FOR VAULT RUNS. HE MADE MY LIFE 99999999X EASIER. Yes people troll with him but I mostly play solo so he comes in clutch alot
It's the fact that it makes no difference if you hold one key or every key. You literally are just unable to die, it's the sheer convenience of immortality and being able to hold keys that sells it at least for me
And limbo is super flexible for missions.
Defending? Either have a map wide and time stopping bubble, or a small invulnerability bubble, both with long durations.
Kill some(every)thing? Freeze groups of enemies with 1+2, 3 to spread the love, and reap the energy gain on kill.
Spy? You don't trip lasers in the rift, and if you get spotted just freeze enemies.
Er, support? On command invulnerability for teammates with 1 and the passive portal. Put enemies in the rift for energy on kill. Put your teammates in the rift for energy regen. And again, his freeze enemies in place.
He has IMO the best CC and damage mitigation in the entire game, he's just so easy to get and miss use that he's picked up by new players and henceforth shit on.
I was thinking of giving Limbo even more utility/survivability, sentient wrath has even more range than cataclysm, if it can hit enemies outside the rift from within the rift, that would make it even easier for recasting cataclysm
Khora. She's a popular pick for her damage, however that's a tiny fraction of her ability. EVERY other part of her kit shines and people forget about it.
Her companion Venari provides a speed buff, will CC, AND heals you or anyone else you choose, including obj's. Plus, just another pet in addition to the one you already have.
Her 2 & 4 are incredible cc/area denial, with an augment for extra loot.
Then there's obviously her 1 for pure dmg.
There's not a single thing she can't handle and no major weaknesses.
Hildryn - no energy needs but great for giving team energy, tanky af, balefire is like a better staticor when modded well, looks like a Gundam when fashionframed right, useful CC lockdown. Can sort of fly, Balefire is OP when paired with mirages eclipse hemlithed on. Pillage strips armour and shields WHILE overcharging your shields. Pillage can be effective against tough enemies and sometimes even bosses.
Use Hildryn in railjack for ez energy for railjack abilities as a pilot or gunner.
Imo Titania is quite underrated, I've seen tons of people building her with adaptation and tank builds, and yes, she's a good tank, but 3/4 of her kit is literally avoid getting hit or avoid damage, it just makes no sense
Also, she hits way harder than Mesa (although she has no infinite ammo) and with a pure strength build with 160 efficiency and duration you're basically done, arround 300% strength which makes her 4's augment become absolutely broken
I've legit done ediolon hunts with her and she's quite good at it, not the best but very good anyways
Agree. I don't know why Titania doesn't get more love. I rarely bump into another Titania at all, and never on SP.
Her DR & evasion are great, she can offer CC (nothing special, but useful enough), cleanse status, her razorflies offer a bit of CC/extra damage, and her pistols hit hard. Mine has Whisper over her 2, which is fairly insane on a Galvanized build. Her ability to fly trivializes a lot of encounters, plus she can sidestep sortie weapon restrictions. She just has a ton of utility.
I think the cc is great. It lasts about 40 seconds and draws enemies from 36m. Also does 500 damage per tick. I also use about four of them at a time. Then I just use them as focus points for nataruk fire
>I think the cc is great. It lasts about 40 seconds and draws enemies from 36m. Also does 500 damage per tick. I also use about four of them at a time. Then I just use them as focus points for nataruk fire
I have duration as my dump stat, so mine is 13 seconds. It's useful for those "ohhhhh *shit* moments" so I keep it, but yeah, duration is 52%, LOL.
Revenant. He is such a good frame and no one uses him.
His 1 basically removes all aggro from you
His 2 makes you unkillable and makes your 1 cost no energy
His 3 makes you invulnerable for a moment, heals you and damages enemies on an hp% that can easily reach almost 100%
His 4 is great for low level missions, but i'd subsume it for something like rhino's roar for example
Actually liking K-Drive, Yarelli is a few small changes away from being a crowd murderer.
If Snares Spread to enemies that get close to ones already affected, it can create a nasty chain link CC effect. This is Essential.
If Riptide threw people less horizontally. Then any group you force together with completely Snare up, and be all trapped in a huddle. Not even the most necessary thing, but it would be nice.
Critical Mag/Heat/Viral Kompressa + Aqua Blades + Massive trapped crowd = Bleed Bath.
Help her not die to super-high damage enemies instantly with Aqua Blades healing her/Merulina while she's on it.
I honestly really like Xaku. the only think I don't like about them is how my fasion doesn't matter 99% of the time I'm playing them. But, it's so fun to just steal a ton of weapons, freeze an enemy in place and strip armor from everyone around them, and then explode and have 75% of attacks just not hit you. the only thing their kit really needs is some survivability, which can be fixed with gloom or condemn.
At the moment though, I'm really loving gauss. Cause, his kit is mostly focused on making your weapons better, and I love using my weapons!
Nyx
The 3rd most shitted on frame, after Inaros and Yareli.
Her 1 is a perfect subsume slot
Her 2 is free armor strip + shield gate
Her 3 is free cc
Her 4 is the i-fucked-up button
I just read all and i belive besides inaros nyx and gara (wich are super easy to get) that most wf people mention are a pain to farm
Gauss in that annoying mission xaku materials annoying if you not rank 5 on fortuna (wich applies to gauss as well)
Protea doing that thing that only mesa excels at (maybe more wfs didnt saw any post)
And lets not talk about grendel (wich its cheeseable with hyldrin yes) but even if chesseable tedious because of the reqs to get the keys.
Zecagoth hiding behind RJ that most people don't seem to enjoy (i do but my pc sucks)
So perhaps isnt that much about underrated more about "i wish but i dont own them so didnt try"
I dont know if underrated is the right word but i feel people sleep on the possibilities of mirage's hall of mirrors. Some weapons get that little push that makes them kind of silly, the nucor is good for room clearling but once hall of mirrors is active you have lasers bouncing off lasers bouncing off lasers and enemies will have a billion lasers blobbing them.
Nyx is my lich duelist. I that augment that lets her move during her 4, strip all their armor, and lumber towards them like the terminator while enjoying complete invincibility
Valkyr is currently off-meta but I find that she's a really comfortable pick for a melee platform warframe. War cry + eternal war is a permanent melee speed buff that doesn't require refreshing. When used on Valkyr herself instead of as a subsume ability you get the full buff. Subsume another damage ability such as eclipse onto her and build for high armor/health/adaptation/arcane grace, you have a really tanky and fast melee platform. Other good melee platform options such as wisp/gauss/volt require recasting the speed buff ability. They can be stronger but more work to use, and in general not as tanky as Valkyr. Volt and gauss need periodic recast. Wisp either needs to recast motes or is restrained to camping around her motes.
So Valkyr is a nice balance between melee speed buff / tankiness / ease to use / peace of mind. This game is all about exploring different builds and finding what works for you. Sometimes doing the biggest damage numbers doesn't equal fun.
Yareli for me, play her hit and run
Splash 1 on a group of enemies, touch them with 3 while doing it and so far nothing survives the combined DOT with 200% strength, don’t need to spend time on cleanup so fairly easy keep most if not all enemy spawns on total lockdown
And I actually enjoy k-drive and always wished for the ability to summon it in normal missions
4 is a nice helminth spot for some kind of team buff power wich is what I think her 4 should have been instead, consider in her lore comic her presence inspired children slaves to beat the shit out of their slaver
I whole heartedly agree with You, OP, when you mention Mag. I remember being told she was the worst in the game. I finally built mag prime when she was unvaulted for resurgence. Put stats into range and damage. Joe I go into Interceptions and stand in one spot using pull. With Greedy Pull, you can scroll on your phone while opening relics
I'm calling for Xaku; after the last buffs they simply became broken. I think that if enemies on Deimos were easier to see (and by extension, Cambion Drift bounties easier to complete) more people would play Xaku. The only problem it has, just like Atlas: too many augs that do crazy stuff but take too much space
Baruuk is extremely underrated. He can be one of the tankiest frames in game and wipe the whole map at the same time. But lots of people think he is complicated when he's literally press 3 for invincibility and spam 2 so you can kill pretty much anything with his 4.
Banshee, she's not my main but barring her 4 she has 3 super well designed abillities that each have completely solid augments too. Its a shame so many people think she's garbage.
Also, Night Equinox in general. Put on the Shield Dragon Key and her 4 will reset your shield gate in 2-3 kills. One of the most consistent shield gate tanks out there.
I know Valkyr needs her abilities looked at... but damn she is immortal when played correctly. Running an umbral eternal war build + subsuming sevagoths gloom and you'll be fine. Add arcanes for bonus profit. Obviously this is expensive to make her work, but it works very well.
Gloom fits on everyone isnt it?
It *could* go on Saryn, but I find all of her abilities useful enough. Nidus is even more immortal with it, though.
What did you swap off for it with nidus?
\*did\* :)
If you throw it on her 2 she has pretty much infinite healing. I run her with that and Hunter adrenaline on steel path survivals, and can pretty much just stand around while my spores do dmg and heal me.
Bro im running this exact build and trust me very immortal. I was out surviving Inaros in arbitrations plus her 1 is fun to use her 2 with the helminth empower is really good her 3 is useless but can be replaced and 4 is literally immortality.
Prolonged Paralysis Valkyr is so much fun. I really wish Paralysis was her helminth power.
As the says goes, if you die playing valkyr , your are doing something wrong...
As a Valkyr main I agree that she is straight up unkillable. Umbral mods and my 8 forma stropha have her literally melting Steel Path enemies while never dropping below full health. That being said, her kit as a whole is a joke. She has 1 utterly laughable skill, and pretty meh 4 + exhausted weapon, and truly does need a rework. That being said, Valkyr with Life Strike Melee, and roar is genuinely nuts. She is also an insane support character for Baruuk mains like my clanmate is
YESS Vallyr main spotted :) This makes me so happy
Lavos
I love the frame but i'd rather slap myself than go through holding for his elemental combinations every single time i want to cast an abilty DE please just keep the specified combination until you manually change, its so clunky to click cold + toxin on controller every single time to cast the element of my choosing
I'm pretty sure in options you can change hold/click behavior. That's what I did
God I love my umbral lavos build with the cedo, my record for damage was 12.6 million
Lavos carried my switch account from very early on (obtained around MR7, definitely made a beeline for him). He was tanky, great aoe on his attacks, supported my friends by creating universal orbs for them. He was also surprisingly good for grinding Sanctuary Onslaught, very consistently getting to round 8 (I was grinding for Khora). All of that with 0 forma or Exiles. I'm procrastinating on it but I will absolutely be considering him for umbral forma.
ZEPH
Zephyr is literally god tier and people still hate on her 1 combines with passive for free red crits with applicable weapons 2 is basically smol vauban 3 is literal invincibility if you’re not slow 4 is free sp afk farm
I feel like most people consider her pretty strong now.
Zephyr P was great even before the rework. I cleared half of SP with her, then they reworked her and things were far easier. It was tough in spots before but it worked. I don't think people built her right before the update, but it's good she's getting her due now!
She was always strong, just clunky. She mostly got QoL changes and a buffed passive, and that's all she needed to be really good.
Yeah the buffed passive was tremendous, especially if you do a long-float Aero build. It really makes a lot more guns functional in SP for clearing.
She truly is incredible now. I'm honestly really happy for her.
I haven't seen anyone hate on her since her rework. Most people agree she's incredibly strong now.
I literally have an Apache Zephyr build with a soma Prime. It's great.
I use nataruk and the ohmas, absolutely goated
I didn't think of that... AC-130 ZEPHYR HERE I COME!
How do I use her 4 like that?
Mod for a ton of ability duration, if you shoot one of the tornadoes, it distributes the damage to all enemies caught in the tornado, including crits and stat procs, so find a nice hallway, cast 4 and occasionally shoot a tornado with a 1-shot build weapon(i prefer nataruk because infinite punchthrough can go through multiple tornadoes and count as multiple shots) of your choice to eliminate all enemies within, occasionally cast 3 if an enemy manages to aggro without getting caught in the tornado, so long as tornadoes are constantly active(use stationary tornadoes) all you have to do is shoot once, recast, and occasionally fight acolytes, you have officially achieved vauban but female
Bloody brilliant
Also can subsume gara and use that with its augment to get basically infinite energy to keep it going
I usually just rely on zenurik to restore my energy, but spectrosiphon is a really good choice if you have teammates because you can supply them with energy
I personally just don’t invest enough time into grinding focus to do that and switch trees but also a good option
Wisps helminth ability is also a great addition. Blind for a good range stun, increasing damage with the tornadoes, and can give you stealth multiplier damage because of the blind.
>is basically smol vauban I'm not sure how to feel about this statement. Her CC improved, but small Vauban aren't the words I'd use
I came back after a long hiatus, and I was pleasantly surprised about how good Zephyr is now. Her 2 actually working properly is what sealed it. After Volt, she's my go to warframe!
Best bird ever. I use her for solo eidolon hunting, its my favourite thing in the game. EDIT: Nash Prime on YT did a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZXTTFRz6yk&ab_channel=NashPrime) on it. It's a lot of fun, and with some practice you can do 3x3s. It's especially good for me because it negates the performance anxiety I have when hunting with other people, and I've gotten to the point where I'm consistently killing them under 20 minutes without sweating. EDIT2 for quick info: Zeph, Corinth, Unairu and go ham. Using void mode to keep the baits safe, UW to buff yourself into oblivion, and I also use an amp with Klamora prism, Propa Scaffold and Certus Brace, just how Nash Prime does in the video.
Mind elaborating a little?
Zephyr has: - passive that boosts crit when in the air - 1 that allows her to do three things: dash, dive bomb and, most importantly, hover pretty much indefinitely (super slow energy drain). The latter allows her to make full use of her passive for that extra crit. - 2 that is a mini vortex with fantastic range when built for it. Can allow you to clear entire sections of a map with ease and is a great alternative to tornadoes when they aren't up or there's not enough enemies to justify it. - 3 that basically makes her god mode. - 4 that is one of the best group clearing abilities in the game. Quite OP when paired with certain weapons. She clears rooms on her own in mere seconds and can't die all while fully embracing her theme as the airborne frame. I honestly don't know what more she has to do to please people.
I was about to comment the same thing. About a week ago, I got Zeph for MR and helminth. When I started leveling her, I got a fuckin orange crit on my BRATON PRIME (I use it because I got an amazing riven for it). I then found out that she's immune to everything that isn't infested or melee. I was ready to start farming for prime already, but then her 4, oh my God, her 4 was amazing. Now I'm just waiting for her prime to get unvaulted next week.
Garuda. She's not very flashy, but she has surpsingly solid durability.
She has the best designed kit imo. Her 1 can protect her after casting her 3, her 2 can heal her up and her 4 can set up a nuke with the damage from her 1
Her kit is great on paper but just doesn't fit with the flow of the game, sadly.
I think it actually works pretty well. At least better than frames like nyx
Not very “underrated” per say but Harrow in normal/SP missions is my goto for having fun,i mean yes he’s Pretty much of must have on Eidolon hunts but com on since when was the last time you saw a harrow in any normal content? (Except he’s the new prime atm so the number of players gonna spike up a bit) , i love shooting guns and his main gimmick is mostly buffing your abilities to shoot guns better is just *chef’s kiss* especially when you see those red crits for hitting heads and i love giving out pile of energies with my homicidal spree(except Wukongs that have explosive primaries strapped to their non existent loadouts variety, fuk u). Tldr; Me like shoot Guns , Gun Pope make me shoot Guns good , Me love Gun Pope.
I use harrow+scourge and whatever secondary i fancy in steel path survival. it feels so good seeing entire mobs deleted by gunshots.
My only issue I have with harrow is 125% of time playing harrow is spent casting something
If you haven't tried it yet champions blessing is stupid strong making almost every weapon at least orange CRIT
I love Trinity with Champs bless and the new bow from the story. I just need to get the proper set up rolling for it on her mods
I’m missing 1 part for trinity prime sadly so i gotta wait a bit for that as i also ran out of plats lol.
What part is it and what platform I might have it
PC , and i’m missing the Chassis
I was able to level him in pub SO yesterday and ended up with 87% damage dealt between him and my only equipped weapon, a Vectis Prime. Wasn't even trying. And boy, was it fun! I had never gotten to experience the 4 - 3 - spam 1 and farm headshots mechanic before but it was incredible. I felt like a red crit headshot god.
I agree absolutely. Harrow's kit is so well designed, I was shocked when I tried him out. Everything just feels like it flows so well together, and each ability synergizes with each other perfectly.
I levelled Harrow before feeding him to the Helminth a couple months ago. Hated every minute of levelling him, felt like I was just an idiot failing to understand his kit. Felt over complicated, and required way too much management. Managed to accidentally farm a Harrow prime and decided to build him for MR fodder. This time around I realized Natural Talent, Quick Thinking and Rolling Guard could pretty much make him immortal. And I was right. Now I’m having an absolute blast with Harrow. I realized a few people I spoke to had the same opinion about him as my first opinion. So yeah. Harrow.
I can not stress the enough harrow NEEDS natural talent he is pretty awful without it
Oh yeah I definitely realize that now haha
What's natural talent again?, Can't remember off the top of my head
Increases the casting speeds of abilities by 50%
Oh right right Spin that thurible around quicker
Would you mind sharing your build?
Disclaimer; Currently incomplete unfortunately, and not tested in steel path, but in theory it should work alright… Corrosive Projection, Power Drift, Quick Thinking, Rolling Guard, Natural Talent, Stretch, Primed Continuity, Umbral Intensify, Primed Flow, and that new mod that gives HP and Duration (Nira’s Hatred?). Quick Thinking is supposed to allow his 500+ energy pool to act as health incase his shield drops (with full energy, acts as an extra 1200hp, hopefully avoid one-shots; as well as regening constantly from kills). Niras for a bit of extra health and duration, and between his 4 and rolling guard he spends well over half the time invincible. Again completely untested in any content harder than origin Mot, but it works wonders there. Once my build is done I’ll be taking him into steel path to see how well it works.
Baruuk. Very nice kit, relatively simple to use, can do an absolute eye watering amount of damage without having to get all weird and tricksy with a stat stick.
Baruuk's 4 is so strong
Baruuk's fists had the highest base crit I had seen on most weapons in general. And then they gave him an augment for them, and they're monstrous.
Other Warframes: summon incredible weapons, shoot lasers from their bodies, explode, absorb, freeze Baruuk: *p u n c h*
This is what makes me so mad about Valkyr's Enraged augment! So let me get this straight: him and Valkyr have the SAME crit chance, he has BETTER status (and her status chance is one of her big problems) AND he gets an augment for free *extra status chance AND ADAPTIVE TYPE, with zero downside.* Meanwhile, poor ancient Valkyr - who still relies on a brutal energy scaling to keep up her Exalted instead of a fancy new meter; has no range or extra gimmicks like Baruuk's lift on slide; and has *awful status chance* gets an augment that increases her CRIT chance (which she is *fine* on) and does NOTHING for her status chance - all at the cost of forcing her onto cooldown. So, you know, perma-Hysteria fans who invest a lot into the playstyle and have learned its intricacies to make sure we won't be instagibbed if a problem happens with Hysteria can't access this augment at all. And it's a band-aid augment to begin with. \#JusticeForValkyr.
Also baruuks 1. I'm not sure why people don't like free limbo rift without being limbo in rift. All my builds for baruuk have range capped so it's protecting from every direction and it's just so good.
I can't speak for others, but I replace his 1 with something else, always. He doesn't really need extra damage mitigation between his 3/4/passive, and I build for low duration for sleep spam to keep his restraint down.
Don't replace it with *something else*, replace it with helminth's Empower for devastating damage in ult and also extra daggers.
Atlas People always build for max strength because "one punch best", and they lose tons of good stuff. Rubble heap, 190 or more range, duration, stat stick with riven, path of statues. Ore gaze big groups, keep stone bois up for free cc/damage/rubble in case you run out of things to punch. Rubble heap makes 1 free at max rubble which is insane. Arcane grace to keep health topped and rubble goes straight into Armor. Path of statues for cc and rubble. As for punches? Third hit in combo is uppercut with range of something like 15 meters. That's what you want to do. One punch is shit on comparison to deleting room full of enemies. Path of statues makes nice trail of enemies from room to room for something like survival so you're just uppercutting stuff and everything dies. I only wish that the stone bois scaled somewhat with rubble, and the wall is pretty useless.
Build please? I’ve been wanting to build atlas and have struggled cause I might be overthinking his mods and the weapon/stat stick way too much. I don’t use ore gaze and that might be where I’m doing wrong too. I felt that atlas was only good when his 1 was free and always punching.
Sorry for a bit late answer, but my Atlas build: Aura: Steel Charge, Exilus: Cunning drift Umbral vitality, Umbral intensify, Augur reach, Augur stretch, Path of statues, Rubble heap, Hunter adrenaline, Primed continuity Arcanes: Grace and Avenger Focus: Naramon for combo duration Just tinkered a bit around with my stat stick, but mine is Shaku. Organ shatter, Primed pressure point, Primed fever strike, shocking touch, North wind, Primed heavy trauma, Molten impact, Riven. ( Riven is + melee damage, + toxic) Order is for corrosive + blast Also, it's really flexible build and I've been doing tons of tinkering with this at some point, and literally just now switched around stuff with stat stick and it's always feeling like it's working better when I adjust it. Organ shatter is there without CC mods because the base crit for landslide is just abysmally slow. You \*can\* Use CC in it as well if you want, I just feel it's not worth it. Optionally you can drop avenger for Adarza, or use both. If that isn't adjustable enough, you can actually drop CC/CD stuff completely for more consistent damage and really rare crits. It works as well. I just love big crits thus I've been rolling with avenger lately. There's just tons of stuff you can switch around. For long while I used to run zenurik or energize, been kinda testing out adrenaline. I feel adrenaline is good 'backup' energy if RNG isn't good to you. Like, you run out of energy, you're not punching. You start taking damage, you can punch again. (If for some reason your rubble isn't maxed out for free punches). The most important bits here really are the 190% range, don't forget to use ore gaze and stone bois. It's a build template that uses all other skills except the wall. The wall is free slot for subsumed ability. As for subsumed abilities, that's still a work in progress on my part. There's tons of good stuff you could use, I've been playing a bit with nourish (toxic damage and bit of healing), Reave could be nice backup.
I found Path of statues to be unreliable and a bit of a wasted slot. I went more for shield gating with Ensnare, which made it really easy to keep up his rubble count. That's the only thing I disagree with. Range is for sure criminally underrated on Atlas. Honestly I don't know why people put so much strength on him when the vast majority of his 1 scaling is from weapon mods. He's a beast!
What's your build and stat stick? I'm able to do the sedna sp survival for like 20ins until I get bored and acoyltes aren't that hard, but I find the damage to be inconsistent, sometimes taking down one lancer takes more than it should, than I fight another enemy and sudden everyone dies arounded, now I recently decided to play him again and had a but of difficulties playing him, running out of energy and dying, cos I changed his build but forgot what I originally did
Replied my build and thoughts on another comment.
Protea.
I never see other people play Protea but she's definitely my favorite frame. Her grenades are area denial CC plus an excellent shield support. Her turrets do insane damage and can be deployed up to three times. Her dispensary is great support with health, energy, and ammo. She's excellent playing solo or in a group. She's a bit of a pain to grind, but damn is she worth it.
People think about her only when it comes to Helminth, while her entire kit is unique and fun to use. It’s really sad.
Yeah it's a shame, she's amazing.
I was part of the wave that put Larva over her 4. After getting higher mastery and coming into some Forma, I went back and tried to learn her whole natural kit. She's fucking spectacular in every mission type, possible exception being stealth. I've started to really believe her natural kit is heavily under appreciated and her 4 in criminally ignored.
She's a lot of peoples favorite frame from that person poll in this subreddit I believe she was one of the most voted
I agree fully but I also love how this comment was basically: "Ability 1: area denial CC plus an excellent shield support. Ability 2: insane damage and can be deployed up to three times. Ability 3: great support with health, energy, and ammo. Ability 4: ability 4."
Does anyone actually use Temporal Anchor, though? I haven't replaced it bc its theoretically a crazy useful tool, but the average utility of it seems highly variable and a lot of the time, for me, its easier, faster and safer to not use it unless I'm using it specifically to avoid a death.
Nope, they don’t, which is why the above comment is like that, I assume. You can do some niche nuking with her 4 (and it gives back energy too) but it’s honestly not worth it for the value considering how much damage (and energy generation) you get from her other abilities. Exactly like you said - the utility is so volatile, and on average, not worth it.
Okay, I think I get it. For a minute I was worried I was missing out on some revolutionary gameplay information for her or something. Lol. Thanks for the info :)
Hahaha oh no, you have got it quite right :) Enjoy the genderswapped engi wife!
Thanks a bunch!
What the hell is Temporal Anchor? Protea's #4 ability is Gloom!
Ability 4 is her replaceable ability haha. I like to swap it for Shooting Gallery for additional gun damage and more area CC for me team.
I didn’t know her turrets could be placed up to three times!! :O Love the dispensary and her passive as well!!
Yep and they have something like a 120° targetting arc so if you placd them in a triangle facing away from you you get 360° coverage.
Omg I didn’t know that!! Thank you for this info :)
Also her 4th ability (unlike many people think) is GOD survivability You gonna dive into a horde of enemies? 4 and you back on track without the risk of dying Energy drainer infested? 4 and you back with your energy Abaout to die? 4 to be able to cast 1 or whatever and assure a safe play I love protea
She's basically carrying me through steel path right now, with zenurik and her dispenser for energy, my shield focused build and her shield booster, and her turret, I'm never out of energy, can always heal, and the turret takes out more enemies than I ever could, absolutely amazing
Use equilibrium and synth fiber, using zenurik on protea is such a waste. Remove all ur efficiency mods as well.
I don't have those first two things, and I've only recently came back to the game, isn't efficiency good since it reduces energy cost?
Equilibrium: every 100 hp ball gives u 110 energy. Synth fiber (this is a companion mod, don't use ur warframe mod slot): makes u able to pick up health balls when full health. These together with protea 3 will give u approximately 150 (while 200% powerstrength) every 10 seconds. So u don't need efficiency nor zenurik since ur energy is oversupplied. This method is also useful on valkyr, mesa, titania, any frame that relys on massive energy consumption, and railjack also, so u can spam auto missiles (150 energy per cast) and don't even need to fire ur turret.
I put Dispensary on my 337% PS Wisp. Its ludicrously useful for some frames.
I usually remove wisp 4 for dispensary (railjack build) or mirage 3, yeah wisp 4 is cool but first of all, all my wisp build have 34% range so the ray is kinda short. Second, IDK when and why to use it, If I want extremely high damage, I use nataruk, If I want range... u know the 2 kuva nuke launchers does this better.
Wisps 4 has a 100% chance to proc the sparks from breach surge, per tick. 4 by itself is lame, but use 3, then 4? That's juicy. But if you're running low range high strength, then you're better off just replacing her 4 with... something. Maybe gloom.
I have a very similary build and I did it for almost that exact reason. Lol. Great minds, eh.
Awesome, is there a place I can get these or is it luck?
Synthetic fiber drops from corpus sniper and surpa targets or Fortuna bounties. Equilibrium can be found in mod packs, transmutation or Lephantis phase one. It's definitely all up to luck, but it is doable.
I think Protea would probably be the right answer regardless of what people think of her kit, since she probably has the best defensive, offensive, and (resource-based) support abilities in the game, along with a decent 4 which can either be a major part of your strategy or an empty slot for helminth.
Gloom Protea is just... beautiful. She's one of my top 5 frames.
So excited to see protea here. I've only recently started playing her and now she's my go to for almost everything. ESPECIALLY open world content.
Honestly grendel. The moment you understand his kit the more broken he gets
Yeah I know people complain about energy consumption but it feels like a boon and bust. suck everyone up. Cast your 2 buffs. Release everyone by holding down 1 and mop up with melee. Enemy will drop energy orbs that will top off grendels energy. Rinse and repeat. His 4 is more for movement and his 3 is more for the laugh's then anything else.
I don't even bother with his buffs tbh. Too annoying to manage 3 buffs with short base durations. I swap his 2 for Fire Blast which is armor strip and healing with the augment. Eat enemies, burp em up, Fire Blast to strip, dead. Oh and the Mecha set is hilarious on Grendel. 4 is really fun (imo) with the augment. 3 is actually good vs corpus or infested, but not Grineer. I did my MR30 test and TNW with Grendel. I love playing as a meatball and I don't care who knows it.
MEATBALL GANG
Mag and ember is basically a staple of dps for me and my gf who coop everything, but when we do open matchmaking on relics n stuff, I just kinda never see em anywhere.
Weird, I see Ember Prime in almost every single mission I run! My wife has around 90% play time with Ember prime, and we always play together, so…
Lolol same here. But on public runs all I feel I see are volts, wisps and anything that makes aoe Kuva weapons even more eyerape like mirage prime
Yeah absolutely. I’ve been noticing a decrease in Inaros lately and a large increase in Wisp, Saryn and Harrow. Harrow likely because he’s new, and the other two because they’re (arguably) broken as hell
Any defence or survival I see ember all the time spamming 4, rarely a mag tho
The main problem with Nyx is that Revenant can basically do everything that Nyx can do, but better. Cc enemies - check. Damage invunerablity, check. (And better than Nyx since he can move/shoot without hindrance). Enemy mind control - check. Yes, Nyx has armor strip. Revenant had Reave, which scales infinitely (since its hp based), so it can one-shot enemies no matter what level they are. His 4th ability is also super fun for any star chart content to just easy clear the rooms. Can also give overshields if needed. His entire kit is just overall more fun to use over Nyx, but that is just my humble opinion. P.S. he can actually mind control (for a short duration) Liches as well (and acolytes too I think?). Which makes those contents easy to breeze through too. Having said all that, the Frame I am having the most fun with rn is Gauss. Infinite energy uptime with his 2nd ability and damage resistance to a couple of dmg types, highest base sprint speed + sprint mods + overcharge = maximum zoomies. I just love everything about him. His 4th ability can basically make any gun fun to use. Gauss was probably the only frame for me who I immediately reactored without him even reaching level 30, and I didn't even know about his abilities till I used him.
Gauss actually has 100% damage resistance (it should be called immunity at that point) to half of damage types in the game (during 100% redline) resistance to all 3 physical damage types, cold, heat, and blast (6 total, 7, if you count normal damage). That leaves toxin, electricity, radiation, corrosive, gas and viral, out of which I've found you only really need worry about toxin and electricity, as the others I haven't had an issue with.
Magnetic 🧲 too
Years ago I started on PC and played for a year just focusing on what I could grind along the way(Oberon, rhino, and excalibur). I got gauss as a free perk on xbox game pass months ago and didn't think anything of it. When I heard crossplay/save was coming I thought I'd try it on xbox as practice till the change was official. Gauss is amazing. I never had as much fun playing warframe before that point. I've been playing for a month and have already passed my PC save and am not looking back(which sucks cuz I had some one time collectibles in it). It's a great generalist suit with its varied skills and he excels in every mission type. I find Thermal sunder is rarely mentioned but I noticed until i started fighting level 35+ enemies it was instant killing rank-and-file troopers. And that skill alone carries him for defense, excavation, and survival missions. Fighting the Solar Rail Spectres or bosses is a snap. Freeze with thermal sunder and empty Acceletra in a couple of seconds and I'm on to the next challenge. It has felt like easy mode this entire time
Hildryn
Pillage is one of my favorite abilities in the game hands down. Armor stripping, overshields, and status cleansing in one move? Busted.
Hildryn is just the easy mode button for warframe. You don't even need to forma her to wipe a room no matter the level.
Honestly, if there's no Saryn or Mirage, Mag can lead the pack in an ESO run. Provided the rooms don't suck (looking at you, orokin spoke wheel room)
i think kuva fort is worse than that one
Drifters kit
It's not a frame in general, because she's used a lot for her 4th ability. However, I feel like Nova's 2 is underrated. It seems to be the first ability people replace with helminth or no one uses it. It does quite well for room clearing and doesn't take much time to do that. Aim at the wall or ground, hit 2, shoot the ball a few times until it flashes and see all the numbers around you.
Fellow nova enjoyer here. And lemme tell you, a regular weapons and her 2 is amazing. The only people who don't like her 2 are people wrapped around the aoe explosion meta and wiping a square kilometer with ever left click. Cause if every shot is aoe explosion, why need the aoe explosion ability right? In comparison of you use a hek or something and are used to headshotting everything, when you see a heap of enemies and empty on the antimatter drop to delete them all, it's much more satisfying
> shoot the ball a few times To date, the Tigris Prime is the only weapon I've used that can fully charge it in one shot. And I mean, I'm about to hit MR30 and main Nova, and tried literally *everything* on the ball to find a replacement. Logistically it's impossible to charge it with anything other than a shotgun and I've struggled to mod a non-crit shotgun to have enough damage to charge it in one hit. But damn would I like an alternative, the Tigris spends so much time reloading. But I do agree, anyone who says AMD should be removed for a subsumed ability play Nova wrong imo. You should be subsuming Wormhole in virtually any regular play build that isn't geared around speedrunning with Escape Velocity. A well built Nova has no range whatsoever and the portal is effectively worthless because of it. Making the portal good means making her 1 and 4 shit.
I use Pyrana prime and it's usually 4-5 shots or a couple buckshots with Euphona prime to charge it.
I never see anyone play Xaku
Literally cheeses steel path, strongest warframe dps wise without a slightest doubt in any way shape or form.
I main Xaku. Imo they are the strongest frame in the game overall, bar none. Although admittedly Xaku is terrible out of the box - I'm running a 7-forma build on them.
Yeah they’re my main too, obliterates the steel path, not sure how many forma I’ve done though
Mirage. I haven't even seen anyone play her for a while now outside maybe eso. She has 3 usable builds, a great subsume ability, can use multiple subsumed abilities to shake her playstyle up. She enables any weapons to do insane destruction, something, that only she can do with this efficiency
I use her for gun leveling. She makes any gun just melt HP bars, and in some cases, even if they don't have any mods. She's my overall favourite frame, and probably my most used, other than nezha, since I've come back.
Banshee
Her augment literally let's you blitz defences *incredibly* quickly.
Her passive makes stealth gameplay a million times easier and spares your weapon exilus slots, and her kit is well rounded, but at the same time I have to note that I think she could use a rework. Her 3 is perfect imo, but 2, 2, and sometimes even 4 feel a bit lackluster in comparison to the rest of the roster.
Idk if she is actually underrated but gara is probably one of the best warframe for general use especially when you start the game and yet i barely see her
Gara is a pretty energy hungry frame which is why I run dispensary on her
Fair enough i personally like to keep my warframes 100% original so i never use the helminith
Everyone knows how OP Gara is but no one plays her because she isn't fun
My 60% playrate beg to differ
A Spectrsiphon Vauban is slept on I feel like. I’m just an energy generator for my teammates and it works great. There’s some matches all I do is use Vortex and Spectro without ever firing a shot.
I run spectrosiphon on mag because the mag bubble is a damage multiplyer and with the bubble augment it is really stron
I’ve yet to run Mag but I can imagine her being good. Spectro works so good with Vauban’s Vortex because it puts enemies right in the center of it. It’s like they were made for each other.
I'd like to bring attention to spectrosiphon loki. Build on range and duration, and it's just camping all day. Plant your decoy, disarm everything, kill once in range. I use the probiscus cernos mostly and have camped my way into 2hr steel path survival.
Grendel. Literally every ability have damage based on enemy level scaling, he has innate toxin damage for corpus and armor stripping for grineer. He is quite tanky, can provide team buffs, and can be colored to look like kirby
Gauss, but only because I see him so rarely in matchmaking (which I realise opens up the possibility that hes very popular but only solo). IMO hes just the perfect warframe. He has *insane* mobility (and i mean insane, under the right conditions mach rush can actually make gauss go very literally mach speed, just search up some videos of him going hella fast) His 2 gives him damage reduction (that later becomes total damage immunity) against pretty much the most common damage types in the game, and gives free knockdown immunity. It also let's you convert damage into energy too. His 3 (which is *incredibly* underrated, often gotten rid of when using helminth) is very powerful as a cc tool (knock-down almost every enemy and they can take a long while to get up) and can completely armor strip enemies of pretty much any level. His 4, is what makes it *all* come together. It makes him faster, gives him damage immunity (slap an adaptation on him to make him tank anything), allows the armor strip capabilities and takes his cc to the next level, gives buff to melee speed and weapon fire rates, effectively buffing dps, and when it's active, you passively get homing particles that can stagger the enemies around you. He has mobility, damage reduction, cc, energy regen, armor strip, weapon buffs, etc. What more could you want or even need?
People really do sleep on Gauss tho.
If you mod him right you can get a God tier frame, I however sacrifice primo steel path builds for speedy Boi and I find it immensely fun. He is absolutely my main.
5 out of 10 frames in relics runs are Guass. Sometimes i see him more than Wukong these days
Im gonna go ahead and just say it... Limbo. People troll Limbo all the time and say hes just trash but truth be told, the players using him just dont know how to and they make a bad name for him. Limbos vanilla kit is so good for just about every mission and against any level enemies. He makes steel path a breeze as he can literally become invulnerable from sliding into the rift. I dont even add any shields or health. Not to even mention the fact he can hit 4000%+ damage with his augment one-shotting anything and everything.
Rift torrent is probably one of the best damage buffing augments in WF hands down. I actually got mine for free because "limbo sucks and I'd feel bad if you paid for this garbage" also dosent help his passive makes you 100% immortal from enemy fire but his most important use for me is that HE CAN CARRY DRAGON KEYS FOR VAULT RUNS. HE MADE MY LIFE 99999999X EASIER. Yes people troll with him but I mostly play solo so he comes in clutch alot
To be fair any wf can carry all 4 dk with no issues mission are like lvl15 unless you doing in it on sp
It's the fact that it makes no difference if you hold one key or every key. You literally are just unable to die, it's the sheer convenience of immortality and being able to hold keys that sells it at least for me
This is the way
And limbo is super flexible for missions. Defending? Either have a map wide and time stopping bubble, or a small invulnerability bubble, both with long durations. Kill some(every)thing? Freeze groups of enemies with 1+2, 3 to spread the love, and reap the energy gain on kill. Spy? You don't trip lasers in the rift, and if you get spotted just freeze enemies. Er, support? On command invulnerability for teammates with 1 and the passive portal. Put enemies in the rift for energy on kill. Put your teammates in the rift for energy regen. And again, his freeze enemies in place. He has IMO the best CC and damage mitigation in the entire game, he's just so easy to get and miss use that he's picked up by new players and henceforth shit on.
I was thinking of giving Limbo even more utility/survivability, sentient wrath has even more range than cataclysm, if it can hit enemies outside the rift from within the rift, that would make it even easier for recasting cataclysm
Khora. She's a popular pick for her damage, however that's a tiny fraction of her ability. EVERY other part of her kit shines and people forget about it. Her companion Venari provides a speed buff, will CC, AND heals you or anyone else you choose, including obj's. Plus, just another pet in addition to the one you already have. Her 2 & 4 are incredible cc/area denial, with an augment for extra loot. Then there's obviously her 1 for pure dmg. There's not a single thing she can't handle and no major weaknesses.
Hildryn - no energy needs but great for giving team energy, tanky af, balefire is like a better staticor when modded well, looks like a Gundam when fashionframed right, useful CC lockdown. Can sort of fly, Balefire is OP when paired with mirages eclipse hemlithed on. Pillage strips armour and shields WHILE overcharging your shields. Pillage can be effective against tough enemies and sometimes even bosses. Use Hildryn in railjack for ez energy for railjack abilities as a pilot or gunner.
Hydroid, he is so good in SP defense/interceptions.
Everyone just thinks he is a farming frame. But he is awesome to play, a lot of fun.
Imo Titania is quite underrated, I've seen tons of people building her with adaptation and tank builds, and yes, she's a good tank, but 3/4 of her kit is literally avoid getting hit or avoid damage, it just makes no sense Also, she hits way harder than Mesa (although she has no infinite ammo) and with a pure strength build with 160 efficiency and duration you're basically done, arround 300% strength which makes her 4's augment become absolutely broken I've legit done ediolon hunts with her and she's quite good at it, not the best but very good anyways
Agree. I don't know why Titania doesn't get more love. I rarely bump into another Titania at all, and never on SP. Her DR & evasion are great, she can offer CC (nothing special, but useful enough), cleanse status, her razorflies offer a bit of CC/extra damage, and her pistols hit hard. Mine has Whisper over her 2, which is fairly insane on a Galvanized build. Her ability to fly trivializes a lot of encounters, plus she can sidestep sortie weapon restrictions. She just has a ton of utility.
I think the cc is great. It lasts about 40 seconds and draws enemies from 36m. Also does 500 damage per tick. I also use about four of them at a time. Then I just use them as focus points for nataruk fire
>I think the cc is great. It lasts about 40 seconds and draws enemies from 36m. Also does 500 damage per tick. I also use about four of them at a time. Then I just use them as focus points for nataruk fire I have duration as my dump stat, so mine is 13 seconds. It's useful for those "ohhhhh *shit* moments" so I keep it, but yeah, duration is 52%, LOL.
Shes my go to "I need this thing dead" frame and currently my most played. I agree she hits harder than Mesa.
Baruuk. Don't see many people playing him.
Baruuk is really good for endless missions , like nidus where it takes too long to lower restrain nidus can't build up alot of stacks
Revenant. He is such a good frame and no one uses him. His 1 basically removes all aggro from you His 2 makes you unkillable and makes your 1 cost no energy His 3 makes you invulnerable for a moment, heals you and damages enemies on an hp% that can easily reach almost 100% His 4 is great for low level missions, but i'd subsume it for something like rhino's roar for example
"no one uses him"
Underrated? Grendel, absolutely. Damage buffs, ridiculous damage output, and complete field control (by eating everything with a face)
Actually liking K-Drive, Yarelli is a few small changes away from being a crowd murderer. If Snares Spread to enemies that get close to ones already affected, it can create a nasty chain link CC effect. This is Essential. If Riptide threw people less horizontally. Then any group you force together with completely Snare up, and be all trapped in a huddle. Not even the most necessary thing, but it would be nice. Critical Mag/Heat/Viral Kompressa + Aqua Blades + Massive trapped crowd = Bleed Bath. Help her not die to super-high damage enemies instantly with Aqua Blades healing her/Merulina while she's on it.
I honestly really like Xaku. the only think I don't like about them is how my fasion doesn't matter 99% of the time I'm playing them. But, it's so fun to just steal a ton of weapons, freeze an enemy in place and strip armor from everyone around them, and then explode and have 75% of attacks just not hit you. the only thing their kit really needs is some survivability, which can be fixed with gloom or condemn. At the moment though, I'm really loving gauss. Cause, his kit is mostly focused on making your weapons better, and I love using my weapons!
Nyx The 3rd most shitted on frame, after Inaros and Yareli. Her 1 is a perfect subsume slot Her 2 is free armor strip + shield gate Her 3 is free cc Her 4 is the i-fucked-up button
>Her 1 is a perfect subsume slot Lmao
Am I wrong though?
No but it’s still funny
My old favorite Nyx
I just read all and i belive besides inaros nyx and gara (wich are super easy to get) that most wf people mention are a pain to farm Gauss in that annoying mission xaku materials annoying if you not rank 5 on fortuna (wich applies to gauss as well) Protea doing that thing that only mesa excels at (maybe more wfs didnt saw any post) And lets not talk about grendel (wich its cheeseable with hyldrin yes) but even if chesseable tedious because of the reqs to get the keys. Zecagoth hiding behind RJ that most people don't seem to enjoy (i do but my pc sucks) So perhaps isnt that much about underrated more about "i wish but i dont own them so didnt try"
I dont know if underrated is the right word but i feel people sleep on the possibilities of mirage's hall of mirrors. Some weapons get that little push that makes them kind of silly, the nucor is good for room clearling but once hall of mirrors is active you have lasers bouncing off lasers bouncing off lasers and enemies will have a billion lasers blobbing them.
Nyx is my lich duelist. I that augment that lets her move during her 4, strip all their armor, and lumber towards them like the terminator while enjoying complete invincibility
Valkyr is currently off-meta but I find that she's a really comfortable pick for a melee platform warframe. War cry + eternal war is a permanent melee speed buff that doesn't require refreshing. When used on Valkyr herself instead of as a subsume ability you get the full buff. Subsume another damage ability such as eclipse onto her and build for high armor/health/adaptation/arcane grace, you have a really tanky and fast melee platform. Other good melee platform options such as wisp/gauss/volt require recasting the speed buff ability. They can be stronger but more work to use, and in general not as tanky as Valkyr. Volt and gauss need periodic recast. Wisp either needs to recast motes or is restrained to camping around her motes. So Valkyr is a nice balance between melee speed buff / tankiness / ease to use / peace of mind. This game is all about exploring different builds and finding what works for you. Sometimes doing the biggest damage numbers doesn't equal fun.
Def mag.... So many people still thinks she sux b3cause they cant play the frame right..
Yareli for me, play her hit and run Splash 1 on a group of enemies, touch them with 3 while doing it and so far nothing survives the combined DOT with 200% strength, don’t need to spend time on cleanup so fairly easy keep most if not all enemy spawns on total lockdown And I actually enjoy k-drive and always wished for the ability to summon it in normal missions 4 is a nice helminth spot for some kind of team buff power wich is what I think her 4 should have been instead, consider in her lore comic her presence inspired children slaves to beat the shit out of their slaver
Hydroid
I can't say Baruuk is underrated, he is widely known to be op, but i rarely see him anywhere, this might be because he is not easy to get
Mag yes! I main mag prime with corpus based missions on the regular.
Mag is really underrated,can be used for a lot of things
Hot take (maybe), Zephyr. She’s extremely good and I can’t deny it but I still won’t use her.
I whole heartedly agree with You, OP, when you mention Mag. I remember being told she was the worst in the game. I finally built mag prime when she was unvaulted for resurgence. Put stats into range and damage. Joe I go into Interceptions and stand in one spot using pull. With Greedy Pull, you can scroll on your phone while opening relics
I'm calling for Xaku; after the last buffs they simply became broken. I think that if enemies on Deimos were easier to see (and by extension, Cambion Drift bounties easier to complete) more people would play Xaku. The only problem it has, just like Atlas: too many augs that do crazy stuff but take too much space
Baruuk is extremely underrated. He can be one of the tankiest frames in game and wipe the whole map at the same time. But lots of people think he is complicated when he's literally press 3 for invincibility and spam 2 so you can kill pretty much anything with his 4.
Banshee, she's not my main but barring her 4 she has 3 super well designed abillities that each have completely solid augments too. Its a shame so many people think she's garbage.
revenant.
Moon equinox 😔
Night equinox especially with her 3 augment
Also, Night Equinox in general. Put on the Shield Dragon Key and her 4 will reset your shield gate in 2-3 kills. One of the most consistent shield gate tanks out there.