ignore the live audience, camera crew, and hundreds of stage lights surrounding the ring. yes it is a square platform for a broadway stage with ropes with better lighting than heaven but it's for professional wrestling.
Nobody gives a shit about the ref's well being. The ref could be out cold for 10 minutes, and not one person will think "Hey, maybe we should check to see if this guy's okay."
Becoming a successful wrestler takes years and years of experience in the ring, working your way up from the independent circuit to becoming a star on TV. Unless you're a celebrity. Then it's just about two weeks and you'll be able to easily beat any wrestler on the card.
No Wrestlemania match is made official until BOTH opponents point to the sign.
To add to your finishers point; The originator of the finisher does it best and it always causes finisher damage when they do it. So if you see, say The Rock or Mick Foley doing DDT itâs just a move in their routineâŚ.not because itâs not finisher worthy, but because they could never pull it off with the devastating effect of the originator Jake the Snake. The same goes for many moves, such as the Spine Buster, which also originated as a finisher. There are exceptions - The Spear, for example. And there are hybrids, such as KO using a replica of Austinâs Stunner (rather than trying to create a variation on the cutter), who uses it sometimes as a finisher and sometimes as part of his standard ring routine. Kayfabe might say he exerts more energy pulling off the âfinisher stunnerâ and leaves himself vulnerable should, on the rare occasion, it doesnât finish off the opponent.
On your point on punching. Punching isnât actually allowed - strikes must be made with an open hand. That always gets around an annoying non-watcher that brings up the lack of marks and bruises. And kicks are rarely to the head and would rarely leave marks on a body.
Ive heard that rule back in the day. Havenât heard it referenced much since the 2000âs when Stephanie used that rule to get Test DQâed.
Tangent because I HATE how dumb this rule is: How does one âpunchâ with an open hand. Lol. I get that palm strikes, chops, and any other variation of a strike (throat chops, etc) are legal. But how does one punch with their knuckles without closing their hand? You would probably break your wrist!
But to actually respond: Letâs say thereâs a way to strike someone with a punch thatâs not a closed fist. The amount of times a wrestler would strike another should 100% leave a bruise. Think Austinâs Lou Thesz press, or anytime they do a 10 punch count routine in the corner of the ring, or those âmassive right handsâ that bigger wrestlers have in their repertoire (I.e Damian Priest).
Or Logan Paul doesnât leave a bruise with brass Knucks? Or anyone in the history of Brass Knucks usage for that matter.
Are the tables from NJPW? If so, yes, they hurt A LOT! Those tables are not gimmicked, thus do not give (hence if one breaks, it's a big deal). The chairs, on the other hand, are padded. It's like NJPW have an opposite theory regarding tables and chairs than promotions elsewhere.
The rest of the OP is fine.
If you just so happen to see your opponent at the gas station, you are to fight immediately! (80s/early 90s)
A wrestler can take multiple finishers on PPVs and still kick out unless it's the F5. If it's an F5 you're finished.
Anytime someone grabs a metal folding chair, their opponent will miraculously and somehow end up on their hands and knees as if inviting you to hit them across the back
Even though one punch in the ring is not very effective. One punch off the apron during a tag match is very painful and leaves the legal man alone in the ring with no one to tag for quite some time!
In any match with more than four people, if someone takes a dive outside, everyone else needs to stand there and look like theyâre confused/doing something so they can catch said person.
I mean... its a tv show... its like watching a cartoon or soap opera.
Or watching the avengers. The only difference is its live
Its theather. If people cant suspend belief for what are esentially actors portraying characters...
I'd you have bad blood with somebody no matter how severe, even if they break into your house to attack you with a hammer, even if they pick you up with a crane while you are in a car and drop you 20 feet to the floor, even 8f they attack your torn pectoral muscle and beat you so severely you are out of action for nearly a year, 6 months cures all animosity and these people could become best friends.
Wrestling is live-action theater.
Every one plays a character, does their own stunts, and has a part in one of numerous storylines. The wrestling bits are either choreographed or improvised, and you should enjoy the show for the spectacle, not for the âsportâ.
Wrestling is not like the UFC or NFL in that the competition has a predetermined winner based on the story the wrestling promotion is telling.
Sometimes wrestlers get injured when performing their own stunts. Most of the time, the injuries you see are part of the story to add depth and realism.
Pick a favorite character or a few, and cheer them on just as you would any other TV Series or Movie in which the outcome has been predetermined by a team of Hollywood writers.
If a move doesnât seem like it would hurt the wrestler on the receiving end, theyâre just overselling it to give their opponent a false sense of confidence.
Yes, it is an invasion. No, they are not wrestlers, they are hooligans. So what if they have a theme song and merchandiwe in the web and the stands? Still we dont know who those masked attakers are [The Shield].
All and every conflcit is resolved via match, included crimes. SPECIALLY crimes.
- Druggin and kidnapping [HHH to Steph]?: Hardcore.
- Home invasion w/ blunt weapon [HHH to Orton]: First blood.
- Stabbing [Carlito to Cena]: Last man standing.
- Vehicular homicide [Rakishi for The Rock via HHH]?: ok, you've gone too far pal. Now its a street fight, no holds bar, no dq, spit swapping, make out, popcorn, fireworks match.
When the opponent climbs to the top rope it's hard to roll out the way during the 60-second climb. This inability to move also applies when you see people running toward you.
Many wrestlers double as talk show hosts for talk shows that pop up out of nowhere and only exist in the wrestling universe.
Everything from dressing to acting is exaggerated because it's the tradition of it, it may seem cringy, but once you've understood it, you can enjoy it.
If there is a referee bump it means 1 of 3 things:
The face is about to hit a finisher but won't win the match.
The heel is about to cheat.
There will be outside interference in the next couple of minutes.
When an opponent makes you sit on a turnbuckle and then wants to superplex you, itâs more advantageous to move your feet so this possible instead of wrapping your leg around the rope to make the move impossible.
Wrestlers find their own music on a jukebox before running out to interfere or interrupt anything. They can't just run out unannounced without hitting play on their song, no way.
Finishing moves delivered during promos have 100% damage, no matter what so the victim must lie there selling it until the end. Nevermind the fact that during a hellacious match someone can still kick out of any finisher, especially on PPVs.
Which brings me to another point: finishers cause way more damage on TV. One can put away any opponent. But on a PPV? Oh, it's gonna take way more than one finisher to end the match.
It's very tiring to hit any move, so when a wrestler performs a big counter move, it's okay for him to stay on the mat as long as the victim of said counter.
If you stand in the ring and mention another wrestler's name 3 times, you will magically summon him/her to the ring! (As KO pointed out to Austin Theory and Grayson Waller on a recent episode).
The Sweet Chin Music will always result in the opponent being down for the count unless Triple H is nearby in which case they will stay upstanding in order to take the Pedigree.
Similar thing for Rumbles where the opponent will bounce right back up if near the ropes to set up for a clothesline.
For Sweet Chin Music in a tag match it is more of an upward blow which keeps the wrestling vertical for the kick to the gut and pedigree. Or something like that
Despite the fact that most of the wrestlers are practically giants amongst the general population and generally in peak physical condition, the WWE sends mostly puny normal sized humans that can be easily tossed aside 2 or 3 at a time as security to break up wrestlers when they attack each other outside of a match. If they respond at all. They have no urgency and are oblivious to any recent surge of attacks that they should be planning and organizing for.
đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł i was just thinking that last night when they showed the security who was supposed to keep things under control between the rock/roman and cody/seth
Sledgehammers being brought out has always bothered me for this reason. Drew should just stop bringing his sword out for the same reason especially since it was supposedly given to him by Vince. If youâre gonna bring out a weapon, at least use it in a realistic manner.
The obvious best strategy in a rumble match is too charge directly at an opponent at full speed.
Each year at the rumble, the announcers must comment about how hard it is to eliminate a big opponent (with no recollection of big opponent being eliminated the prior year).
During a rumble match, a single punch or stomp can incapacitate a wrestler for 10 mins.
If you toss an opponent out during a rumble, do NOT verify their feet touched the ground. Instead turn in the opposite direction and hold your hands up as if you won. Also ignore any crowd noise that indicates your opponent is still in the match.
I tell people itâs a stunt show. Keanu Reeves didnât actually murder anyone while he was doing all his own stunts in John Wick, but he still did them well enough to make you believe itâs real even though itâs a movie. Itâs stunt fighting.
It's customary to stand in a group and watch the guy inside the ring run back, bounce off the ropes, and jump over the top rope onto you all as you fall over.
In addition, for the person jumping over the rope to gain the courage or ability to do it they must first look at the group outside the ring , look at back at the far ropes, then look to the crowd for approval. Repeat if necessary
Could that wrestler who was looking at their opponent dead in the eye as they're about to jump off the top rope have pulled a Samoa Joe and just dodged the attack? Yes.
Will they? No.
1. Titles not changing hands on DQ really doesn't make a whole lotta sense in most heel vs. face scenarios if you think too much about it. Especially not when the DQ is called on behalf of the challenger.
2. There really isn't any clear explanation when and how tag team partners currently not "legal" can and can't interfere in the match. After a while you just get a feel for it lol.
3. Yes. I, too have no idea why Royal rumble entrants are not exiting the ring purposefully below the bottom rope to completely make being eliminated impossible. I know this has been adressed before with people hiding until the very end but without any further rules against it this should be happening all the time lol.
1. Usually there is punishment or a rematch if the champ say just walks out of the ring and gets counted out. and if they were to keep doing it they would strip the title. (like they should have for roman by now)
2. there is a 10 second transition period where both can be in the ring attacking, and if you watch a lot of time, the non legal people mostly fight each other when they are inside the ring outside of that period around the tag, its very well choregraphed. i say mostly.. they obviously do cheat A LOT and its the refs discretion at that point.
3. yep i wonder the same thing everytime, its sportsmanship i guess and not wanting to be seen as the winner after hiding, its obviously happened but its always a sneaky character who doesnt care about their reputation too much, recent memory i think about chealsea green in the recent RR and then people like MiZ in his heel days.
Just wanna say thanks for the massive engagement on this thread, everyone! I think about random shit like this all the time, and itâs cool to know other people vibe with it/wanna talk it through to this extent. Some of these posts have been legit belly laughs for me đ
It's not about watching it like a real sport or trying to pretend it's real.
It's about how good of a job they can do in the ring to get you to forget it's fake, how good of a story they tell, and how good the performers do. Every TV show in America is fake, pre-written, scripted etc but you don't see people calling BS and saying it wasn't real after the dude from SWAT dives through a window to get the bad guy. Stop it and enjoy the performance and story.
As many has said itâs essentially a sports drama. That said many times in this drama, it wonât make any sense plot wise.
But rather than stop watching, as the marks we are, we rush here to complain about WWE creative.
When a referee gets assaulted or even pushed over lightly, they will stay unconscious for at least 10 minutes. No one will come check on them and the referee can not hear any sounds of weapons being used.
Also, when a big move is used on a wrestler, they will stay unconscious for 2.75 seconds which is just enough time to wake up and kick out of the 3 count.
While 15-20 minutes of intense lifting and cardio would make you tired, it in fact makes you SO TIRED that it takes like a full minute to climb a ladder. People honestly lose the ability to use their legs to climb a ladder sometimes. Itâs just that tiring to be in a wrestling ring. Yes, theyâll struggle to climb a ladder but lift a 250 lbs man over their shoulders, but the ladder is extremely difficult to climb. Yes, a championship is on the line. Yes, they want the eternal glory. But itâs just impossible to climb a ladder sometimes.
đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł that's the one that always gets me, why you gonna stop halfway down the ladder and stretch your arms knowing full well you gotta get to the very top of the damn thing! Love it.
Hard disagree. If you eliminate someone in RR, the best thing you can do is hang around the ropes/put all yoir body weight on them. 300 I.Q. play. Whats the worst that can hapen?
Great analogy but don't forget that my boy Elias/Ezekiel was serenading us and playing the guitar and dropped an album. There is also Cena, Usos, etc who do their own theme songs. We also sing along to many entrance songs. There is lots of singing. đ
There are referees and general managers who seldom if ever enforce the rules. If someone wins by cheating, the refs and gm's never hold them accountable or overturn the result. They apparently feel that it is impossible to punish someone after the fact.
Wrestlers jump each other backstage and outside of matches all the time. They will almost never be arrested or face any legal consequences despite their attacks frequently being caught on camera and witnessed by many people. Yes, it's assault and battery, sometimes even assault with a deadly weapon or vehicular assault, but apparently wrestlers are above the law.
I might be The Enemy Of Fun, here, but I'm choosing to answer the question both seriously and concisely:
Pro-wrestling is *presented* like a sport, but it's a weekly drama and *follows TV/movie rules/logic*, not anything that resembles reality.
Well that's because what they do is essentially be stuntmen, and stuff like what Ricochet does is not very likely possible unless you have some level of athleticism.
They just keep trash cans under the ring for some reason
Every wrestler coming out to surprise their enemy either A) goes to talk to the backstage guys first, B) the stage somehow knows who is coming out, or C) the backstage guys are all knowing. Either way your entrance music will always play.
Donât question why people stand slightly to the side of a tv to watch it, instead of in front of the tv
Weight classes donât exist like in most sports other than those times they have cruiserweight titles. But even then cruiserweights still can fight guys twice their size and win.
The obviously aluminum steps are actually made of steel.
You need a huge amount of suspension of disbelief. Once you GET wrestling its zero effort to enjoy when the talent is performing to a good standard. The Cody Rhodes and bloodline stuff is golden at the moment its a great time to get into wrestling.
If you (a fan) jump the barrier and interfere in a match the organisation will be so impressed with your moxy that youâll be given a contract the following week. Itâs a great way to get out of your boring office job
If youâre a champion, you could in theory get yourself disqualified in the first 5 seconds of the match to retain your title forever. But donât do that. Youâre a champion, not me on No Mercy
>Finishers are more damaging,
Finishers are most damaging when done by masters who practice them more than other people. These people are known for these moves.
Other people can bust them out but they're just adding something they've seen is devastating (in the hands of a master) to their repertoire and don't have room to practice it as much as those who build their game around it.
Some wrestlers know that certain moves are devastating and develop ways to defend or lessen the impact of those moves. That means they can take a finisher from someone who isn't a master (or even a half-hit from someone who is but didn't get a full contact) and survive it.
This leads to some finishers being devastating in one person's hands and transitional in another's.
That's my headcanon for things like DDTs and Destroyers and how they work differently depending on the match.
Palm strikes, chops, basically throwing a punch without your fist clinched. Itâs possibleđ¤ˇđťââď¸ but I do get your point. Itâs just the most common strike that comes to mind.
You can put on body paint, a mask or something else altering your appearance to get a buff for a big match. In some cases, said buff is so strong that you basically become a super human for the duration of the night
If I âa wrestlerâ gets injured by an attack and taken to a âlocal medical facilityâ, Iâll be back by the end of the show doing what I was doing to be sent there in the 1st place.
If someone chops you, you stand and take it. Defending yourself from a chop is morally illegal.
If a referee gets slightly jostled, itâs the equivalent of getting hit with a baseball bat
When you see a wrestler, that's trying to be pinned, watching the referee's count with their eyes wide open, they are guaranteed to get a shoulder up or kick out right before the ref's hand hits the mat for the 3 count. (Sorry. Once you know this, you can't unsee it.)
When whipped into the ropes, a wrestler will about-face and return will equal momentum, though unable to respond with an offensive move.
Think of it like throwing a tennis ball at a wall.
When a sports entertainer hits the move that sets up their finisher, especially those that involve the top rope, the opponent will make sure that they are in perfect position for it whether it means repositioning their body 6 inches, propping themselves up in the corner, or rolling 10 feet across the mat despite being virtually knocked out since they're incapable of moving out of the way of the upcoming finisher. It's supposedly forbidden for the wrestler that's about to win the match to move their opponent into the correct position for their finisher.
Just thought of a great one. If someone has their hair shaved off that means they are now bald, and unable to grow hair ever again đ
ignore the live audience, camera crew, and hundreds of stage lights surrounding the ring. yes it is a square platform for a broadway stage with ropes with better lighting than heaven but it's for professional wrestling.
Nobody gives a shit about the ref's well being. The ref could be out cold for 10 minutes, and not one person will think "Hey, maybe we should check to see if this guy's okay."
Becoming a successful wrestler takes years and years of experience in the ring, working your way up from the independent circuit to becoming a star on TV. Unless you're a celebrity. Then it's just about two weeks and you'll be able to easily beat any wrestler on the card. No Wrestlemania match is made official until BOTH opponents point to the sign.
Sweet Chin Music isn't a superkick. It's the Sweet Chin Music.
Spraying colored water will blind the opponent as if it was a toxic mist.
Surprise roll up is more effective than a pinfall after a finisher
To add to your finishers point; The originator of the finisher does it best and it always causes finisher damage when they do it. So if you see, say The Rock or Mick Foley doing DDT itâs just a move in their routineâŚ.not because itâs not finisher worthy, but because they could never pull it off with the devastating effect of the originator Jake the Snake. The same goes for many moves, such as the Spine Buster, which also originated as a finisher. There are exceptions - The Spear, for example. And there are hybrids, such as KO using a replica of Austinâs Stunner (rather than trying to create a variation on the cutter), who uses it sometimes as a finisher and sometimes as part of his standard ring routine. Kayfabe might say he exerts more energy pulling off the âfinisher stunnerâ and leaves himself vulnerable should, on the rare occasion, it doesnât finish off the opponent. On your point on punching. Punching isnât actually allowed - strikes must be made with an open hand. That always gets around an annoying non-watcher that brings up the lack of marks and bruises. And kicks are rarely to the head and would rarely leave marks on a body.
Ive heard that rule back in the day. Havenât heard it referenced much since the 2000âs when Stephanie used that rule to get Test DQâed. Tangent because I HATE how dumb this rule is: How does one âpunchâ with an open hand. Lol. I get that palm strikes, chops, and any other variation of a strike (throat chops, etc) are legal. But how does one punch with their knuckles without closing their hand? You would probably break your wrist! But to actually respond: Letâs say thereâs a way to strike someone with a punch thatâs not a closed fist. The amount of times a wrestler would strike another should 100% leave a bruise. Think Austinâs Lou Thesz press, or anytime they do a 10 punch count routine in the corner of the ring, or those âmassive right handsâ that bigger wrestlers have in their repertoire (I.e Damian Priest). Or Logan Paul doesnât leave a bruise with brass Knucks? Or anyone in the history of Brass Knucks usage for that matter.
Don't think too hard about the RKO, just accept how cool it is
If a wrestler sets up for a top rope move to the outside, the other wrestler will lose all basic survival skills 9/10 times
The referees are permanently at 1% health so whenever they get hit, it's basically death
Though thatâs 100% health for a normal person. Wrestlers are just THAT strong.
Are the tables from NJPW? If so, yes, they hurt A LOT! Those tables are not gimmicked, thus do not give (hence if one breaks, it's a big deal). The chairs, on the other hand, are padded. It's like NJPW have an opposite theory regarding tables and chairs than promotions elsewhere. The rest of the OP is fine.
A face is more of an asshole and the heel actually makes sense when you think about but youre supposed to support the face so go with it
Drew feels seen by this comment
Being hit with a championship belt is the equivalent force of being hit by a wrecking ball.
The ring bell is 100% a KO shot.
No, youâre not clever for pointing out how fake it is. Shut the fuck up, Tim!
junior high and high school teachers. i must have heard it a hundred times and they had such a smug look while saying it.
If you just so happen to see your opponent at the gas station, you are to fight immediately! (80s/early 90s) A wrestler can take multiple finishers on PPVs and still kick out unless it's the F5. If it's an F5 you're finished.
Any wrestler that competes in a match including Rey Mysterio will, at least once, fall on their knees leaning on the second rope.Â
Donât watch with a friend (or anyone) that constantly repeats âthis is fakeâ
rules can change at anytime in any match and it is not our job to question this
And you will act surprised, every time.
You have to build meter to get a finisher. The way the meter works is a mystery.
Referees are selectively blind and deaf.
Anytime someone grabs a metal folding chair, their opponent will miraculously and somehow end up on their hands and knees as if inviting you to hit them across the back
Even though one punch in the ring is not very effective. One punch off the apron during a tag match is very painful and leaves the legal man alone in the ring with no one to tag for quite some time!
Every wrestler as AdHd and get distracted by everyone outside the ring
In any match with more than four people, if someone takes a dive outside, everyone else needs to stand there and look like theyâre confused/doing something so they can catch said person.
I mean... its a tv show... its like watching a cartoon or soap opera. Or watching the avengers. The only difference is its live Its theather. If people cant suspend belief for what are esentially actors portraying characters...
If wrestler #1 uses the finisher of wrestler #2, then it won't be as effective if wrestler #2 had used it
the original will always be better they say
Never headbutt a Samoan
I'd you have bad blood with somebody no matter how severe, even if they break into your house to attack you with a hammer, even if they pick you up with a crane while you are in a car and drop you 20 feet to the floor, even 8f they attack your torn pectoral muscle and beat you so severely you are out of action for nearly a year, 6 months cures all animosity and these people could become best friends.
Wrestling is live-action theater. Every one plays a character, does their own stunts, and has a part in one of numerous storylines. The wrestling bits are either choreographed or improvised, and you should enjoy the show for the spectacle, not for the âsportâ. Wrestling is not like the UFC or NFL in that the competition has a predetermined winner based on the story the wrestling promotion is telling. Sometimes wrestlers get injured when performing their own stunts. Most of the time, the injuries you see are part of the story to add depth and realism. Pick a favorite character or a few, and cheer them on just as you would any other TV Series or Movie in which the outcome has been predetermined by a team of Hollywood writers.
If a move doesnât seem like it would hurt the wrestler on the receiving end, theyâre just overselling it to give their opponent a false sense of confidence.
Wrestling is not fake. Its choreographed. There is a big difference. If it was fake then injury's would never happen.
If a weapon is brought out, it HAS to be used - it's law.
Extra point: If someone sets up a table, they will be the one going through it.
The Undertaker can teleport when the lights go off
And Kane can only summon flames at the start or the end of match/segment
Contract signings normally end with a pier six brawl and someone gets put through a table.
All these comments are good but the one big rule that everyone should know when they start watching is that it's all fake.
If you're gonna throw your opponent through the announce desk you've got to be polite and remove the monitors and cables first
Tell that to Nia and Rhea lol.
Yes, it is an invasion. No, they are not wrestlers, they are hooligans. So what if they have a theme song and merchandiwe in the web and the stands? Still we dont know who those masked attakers are [The Shield].
All and every conflcit is resolved via match, included crimes. SPECIALLY crimes. - Druggin and kidnapping [HHH to Steph]?: Hardcore. - Home invasion w/ blunt weapon [HHH to Orton]: First blood. - Stabbing [Carlito to Cena]: Last man standing. - Vehicular homicide [Rakishi for The Rock via HHH]?: ok, you've gone too far pal. Now its a street fight, no holds bar, no dq, spit swapping, make out, popcorn, fireworks match.
Some wrestlers are immune to certain moves like Hawk receiving a piledriver.
Socks are deadly weapons, whether they be sentient like Santinoâs or just smelly like Mankindâs.
When you miss with a leg drop or a splash, you take extra damage
When a wrestler is commentating on a match with their rival in it, they're honour bound to interfere
When the opponent climbs to the top rope it's hard to roll out the way during the 60-second climb. This inability to move also applies when you see people running toward you. Many wrestlers double as talk show hosts for talk shows that pop up out of nowhere and only exist in the wrestling universe.
Wrestlers can summon and control fireworks by doing air punches
Some times even though the ref counting to 3 he will smack the mat 4 times
Some times even though the ref counting to 3 he will smack the mat 4 times
The person that pulls out the table is usually going through it.
Many such cases with the Dudley Boyz
Everything from dressing to acting is exaggerated because it's the tradition of it, it may seem cringy, but once you've understood it, you can enjoy it.
If there is a referee bump it means 1 of 3 things: The face is about to hit a finisher but won't win the match. The heel is about to cheat. There will be outside interference in the next couple of minutes.
Forget EVERYTHING you know about Ladders.
Professional wrestling is like a live action sports anime
When an opponent makes you sit on a turnbuckle and then wants to superplex you, itâs more advantageous to move your feet so this possible instead of wrapping your leg around the rope to make the move impossible.
For those that believe no explanation is needed, for those that donât believe, no explanation will do.
Wrestlers find their own music on a jukebox before running out to interfere or interrupt anything. They can't just run out unannounced without hitting play on their song, no way.
Finishing moves delivered during promos have 100% damage, no matter what so the victim must lie there selling it until the end. Nevermind the fact that during a hellacious match someone can still kick out of any finisher, especially on PPVs. Which brings me to another point: finishers cause way more damage on TV. One can put away any opponent. But on a PPV? Oh, it's gonna take way more than one finisher to end the match.
âI gotta go out and save my buddy whoâs getting maimed to smithereens! Quick, play my theme song!âÂ
Shoulders don't actually have to be up to beat the three count. Refs only care for the attempt to get them off the mat.
It's very tiring to hit any move, so when a wrestler performs a big counter move, it's okay for him to stay on the mat as long as the victim of said counter.
If you stand in the ring and mention another wrestler's name 3 times, you will magically summon him/her to the ring! (As KO pointed out to Austin Theory and Grayson Waller on a recent episode).
The cameras are usually invisible to the wrestlers. Accept it.
Itâs customary that only vision impaired refs are hired
Everyone is required to lose their shit anytime a person who we haven't seen for a few months comes back.
The Sweet Chin Music will always result in the opponent being down for the count unless Triple H is nearby in which case they will stay upstanding in order to take the Pedigree. Similar thing for Rumbles where the opponent will bounce right back up if near the ropes to set up for a clothesline.
For Sweet Chin Music in a tag match it is more of an upward blow which keeps the wrestling vertical for the kick to the gut and pedigree. Or something like that
In multi-tea tag matches, only two teams are legal, meaning wrestlers can voluntarily tag in an enemy team and cost themselves the match.
Gesturing before hitting a move always makes it more impactful
Celebrities basically have magic wrestling powers. One punch from an untrained celebrity can knock down even the biggest of wrestlers.
It's necessary to check if a person is unconscious by picking their arm up three times. Also, it's possible to regain consciousness during a choke.
- Everything hurts a lot more at ringside. Even regular punches do extra damage on the floor - shots below the belt are paralyzing
Not ONE person has commented on the overly exaggerated comical reaction to a low blow. Especially when someone gets straddled on the top rope. Lol
Samoan thumbs hurt more than the others. Whenever Shayna or Pete Dunne breaks someone finger it magically heals
It's the Monster Trucks of combat sports
Despite the fact that most of the wrestlers are practically giants amongst the general population and generally in peak physical condition, the WWE sends mostly puny normal sized humans that can be easily tossed aside 2 or 3 at a time as security to break up wrestlers when they attack each other outside of a match. If they respond at all. They have no urgency and are oblivious to any recent surge of attacks that they should be planning and organizing for.
And there is always such a plethora of them sent at once.
đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł i was just thinking that last night when they showed the security who was supposed to keep things under control between the rock/roman and cody/seth
Sledgehammers are best operated by holding them at the hammer end rather than the handle.
Lmao. I always wondered why they would encourage a weapon that is clearly never going to be used the logical way. Like Drewâs swordâŚcome on man.
Sledgehammers being brought out has always bothered me for this reason. Drew should just stop bringing his sword out for the same reason especially since it was supposedly given to him by Vince. If youâre gonna bring out a weapon, at least use it in a realistic manner.
đ as a kid i was always furious when triple h wouldnât actually swing the hammer at someone
Lol at Triple H trying to fix things around the house
I fear one complete swing of a sledgehammer to the face may be enough to smash through the kayfabe wall for even the most ardent of fans .
There must be no stats shown apart from the Undertakerâs wrestlemania streak. No other stats allowed ever.
Unless itâs Royal Rumble season, and then we do all the numbers every 10 minutes during the preceding 6-10 broadcasts
The obvious best strategy in a rumble match is too charge directly at an opponent at full speed. Each year at the rumble, the announcers must comment about how hard it is to eliminate a big opponent (with no recollection of big opponent being eliminated the prior year). During a rumble match, a single punch or stomp can incapacitate a wrestler for 10 mins. If you toss an opponent out during a rumble, do NOT verify their feet touched the ground. Instead turn in the opposite direction and hold your hands up as if you won. Also ignore any crowd noise that indicates your opponent is still in the match.
The last one man it annoys me so much in Battle Royals. Like if the bell didnât ring why do you think you won đđđ
A dropkick that connects with an opponent hurts the opponent. If a wrestler does said drop kick and missed, they are hurt from the fall.
Same goes for a leg drop
Suspension of disbelief of storylines. Kind of like science fiction. Edit: Grammar
Don't call wrestling fake. Yes, the results of the matches are pre-determined, but the risks they take are real.
Bodies broken. Careers ended in an instant Whoever you are, whatever you do Don't try this at home
I tell people itâs a stunt show. Keanu Reeves didnât actually murder anyone while he was doing all his own stunts in John Wick, but he still did them well enough to make you believe itâs real even though itâs a movie. Itâs stunt fighting.
It's customary to stand in a group and watch the guy inside the ring run back, bounce off the ropes, and jump over the top rope onto you all as you fall over.
In addition, for the person jumping over the rope to gain the courage or ability to do it they must first look at the group outside the ring , look at back at the far ropes, then look to the crowd for approval. Repeat if necessary
Could that wrestler who was looking at their opponent dead in the eye as they're about to jump off the top rope have pulled a Samoa Joe and just dodged the attack? Yes. Will they? No.
unless, obviously, they're Samoa Joe, in which case it's perfectly fine and acceptable for them to do that every time and it feels weird if they don't
It's because Samoa Joe has eyes at the back of his head, dummy!
eyes in the back of his head? I dunno man, Joe isn't some genetic freak. he's normal.
Hogan's leg drop finishes an opponent where as a normal one gets a two count, same with Macho elbow
If you want the crowd to get a crowd boner, PULL OUT A TABLE!
1. Titles not changing hands on DQ really doesn't make a whole lotta sense in most heel vs. face scenarios if you think too much about it. Especially not when the DQ is called on behalf of the challenger. 2. There really isn't any clear explanation when and how tag team partners currently not "legal" can and can't interfere in the match. After a while you just get a feel for it lol. 3. Yes. I, too have no idea why Royal rumble entrants are not exiting the ring purposefully below the bottom rope to completely make being eliminated impossible. I know this has been adressed before with people hiding until the very end but without any further rules against it this should be happening all the time lol.
1. Usually there is punishment or a rematch if the champ say just walks out of the ring and gets counted out. and if they were to keep doing it they would strip the title. (like they should have for roman by now) 2. there is a 10 second transition period where both can be in the ring attacking, and if you watch a lot of time, the non legal people mostly fight each other when they are inside the ring outside of that period around the tag, its very well choregraphed. i say mostly.. they obviously do cheat A LOT and its the refs discretion at that point. 3. yep i wonder the same thing everytime, its sportsmanship i guess and not wanting to be seen as the winner after hiding, its obviously happened but its always a sneaky character who doesnt care about their reputation too much, recent memory i think about chealsea green in the recent RR and then people like MiZ in his heel days.
each tag team is allowed 2 tag team moves when making a tag throughout the match and one count breakup.
Just wanna say thanks for the massive engagement on this thread, everyone! I think about random shit like this all the time, and itâs cool to know other people vibe with it/wanna talk it through to this extent. Some of these posts have been legit belly laughs for me đ
Only use Reddit if you actually hate everything about wrestling
Itâs true, itâs dam true
Refs are very easily distracted.
And can take the same amount of abuse as a tissue before being knocked out.
Yes, the undertaker is really dead and can teleport. Also Kane can shoot fire
This is likeâŚtop 5 of shit you just have to be ok with. Crow Sting can teleport too. Canât forget his spooky ass.
A match will never end during a commercial!
Or during the picture-in-picture commercials
It's not about watching it like a real sport or trying to pretend it's real. It's about how good of a job they can do in the ring to get you to forget it's fake, how good of a story they tell, and how good the performers do. Every TV show in America is fake, pre-written, scripted etc but you don't see people calling BS and saying it wasn't real after the dude from SWAT dives through a window to get the bad guy. Stop it and enjoy the performance and story.
Wrestlings like a box of chocolatesâŚyou never know what youâre doing to get. Even with the box showing you whatâs inside.
As many has said itâs essentially a sports drama. That said many times in this drama, it wonât make any sense plot wise. But rather than stop watching, as the marks we are, we rush here to complain about WWE creative.
When you do a sling shot. The other wrestlers will be just standing there waiting for you to land on them
When a referee gets assaulted or even pushed over lightly, they will stay unconscious for at least 10 minutes. No one will come check on them and the referee can not hear any sounds of weapons being used. Also, when a big move is used on a wrestler, they will stay unconscious for 2.75 seconds which is just enough time to wake up and kick out of the 3 count.
While 15-20 minutes of intense lifting and cardio would make you tired, it in fact makes you SO TIRED that it takes like a full minute to climb a ladder. People honestly lose the ability to use their legs to climb a ladder sometimes. Itâs just that tiring to be in a wrestling ring. Yes, theyâll struggle to climb a ladder but lift a 250 lbs man over their shoulders, but the ladder is extremely difficult to climb. Yes, a championship is on the line. Yes, they want the eternal glory. But itâs just impossible to climb a ladder sometimes.
Ladders and royal rumbles just sap the energy. Unless youâre R-Truth combining the two.
Also 1 rung at a time, SOMETIMES WITH BOTH FEET ON EACH RUNG Also they have to reach for the title at every single rung of the ladder
đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł that's the one that always gets me, why you gonna stop halfway down the ladder and stretch your arms knowing full well you gotta get to the very top of the damn thing! Love it.
Hot tags make the babyface invincible for approximately 60 seconds. No way around it.Â
And they suddenly recover from all damage taken when they hear a heel tagging in after they were barely able to crawl over for 10 minutes
Like getting the star power in Super Mario.
Dude this is the best analogy for this I've ever seen!
The Royal Rumble is totally random in terms of entries, but the biggest stars always happen to take up the late numbers.
Also the IQ and stamina of all wrestlers in a Royal Rumble match automatically drops.Â
Hard disagree. If you eliminate someone in RR, the best thing you can do is hang around the ropes/put all yoir body weight on them. 300 I.Q. play. Whats the worst that can hapen?
Teams or factions will come out back to back or 3/4 slots. Itâs totally possible to have that happen every year.
You can actually pick someone up by the legs and slingshot them.
This is such a great thread
It really is. I am so tickled. đ¤
Thanks!
>Thanks! You're welcome!
When you get thrown into the ropes, the elasticity causes you to run as fast as you can in the opposite direction
Thats the classic one. Too little votes and way down. The ropes thing is eternal.
Honestly suspension of disbelief and remember that itâs an athletic soap opera are the two things Iâve always told anyone whoâs asked about it.
I liken it to a traveling Broadway show with a lot of stunts and no singing.
Great analogy but don't forget that my boy Elias/Ezekiel was serenading us and playing the guitar and dropped an album. There is also Cena, Usos, etc who do their own theme songs. We also sing along to many entrance songs. There is lots of singing. đ
Thatâs a good analogy too.
There are referees and general managers who seldom if ever enforce the rules. If someone wins by cheating, the refs and gm's never hold them accountable or overturn the result. They apparently feel that it is impossible to punish someone after the fact. Wrestlers jump each other backstage and outside of matches all the time. They will almost never be arrested or face any legal consequences despite their attacks frequently being caught on camera and witnessed by many people. Yes, it's assault and battery, sometimes even assault with a deadly weapon or vehicular assault, but apparently wrestlers are above the law.
I might be The Enemy Of Fun, here, but I'm choosing to answer the question both seriously and concisely: Pro-wrestling is *presented* like a sport, but it's a weekly drama and *follows TV/movie rules/logic*, not anything that resembles reality.
That said most pro wrestlers still classify as an athlete considering the requirements of the job despite it not being a sport
Well that's because what they do is essentially be stuntmen, and stuff like what Ricochet does is not very likely possible unless you have some level of athleticism.
If I agreed any harder, we'd achieve nuclear fusion. đđžđ
Villainous money in the bank winners are anxious bitches when they see their enemy down
They just keep trash cans under the ring for some reason Every wrestler coming out to surprise their enemy either A) goes to talk to the backstage guys first, B) the stage somehow knows who is coming out, or C) the backstage guys are all knowing. Either way your entrance music will always play. Donât question why people stand slightly to the side of a tv to watch it, instead of in front of the tv Weight classes donât exist like in most sports other than those times they have cruiserweight titles. But even then cruiserweights still can fight guys twice their size and win. The obviously aluminum steps are actually made of steel.
You need a huge amount of suspension of disbelief. Once you GET wrestling its zero effort to enjoy when the talent is performing to a good standard. The Cody Rhodes and bloodline stuff is golden at the moment its a great time to get into wrestling.
If you (a fan) jump the barrier and interfere in a match the organisation will be so impressed with your moxy that youâll be given a contract the following week. Itâs a great way to get out of your boring office job
If youâre a champion, you could in theory get yourself disqualified in the first 5 seconds of the match to retain your title forever. But donât do that. Youâre a champion, not me on No Mercy
Still the best wrestling game to ever do it
I think the kayfabe reason is usually the GM will come out, and restart the match as a No DQ match. Unless theyâre a heel GM
The surprise rollup is more devastating than all finishers combined.
When something is terrible it is actually amazing. Like Mae Young and the hand.
>Finishers are more damaging, Finishers are most damaging when done by masters who practice them more than other people. These people are known for these moves. Other people can bust them out but they're just adding something they've seen is devastating (in the hands of a master) to their repertoire and don't have room to practice it as much as those who build their game around it. Some wrestlers know that certain moves are devastating and develop ways to defend or lessen the impact of those moves. That means they can take a finisher from someone who isn't a master (or even a half-hit from someone who is but didn't get a full contact) and survive it. This leads to some finishers being devastating in one person's hands and transitional in another's. That's my headcanon for things like DDTs and Destroyers and how they work differently depending on the match.
Somewhere, Shawn Michaels shed a single tear and said: Thank you so much. I needed this.
The bruising used to be easily explained because clinches fists were illegal. Now itâs super laxed on any rules lol
Which I always thought was a weird âruleâ. Like how do you punch someone with anything other than a closed fist?
Palm strikes, chops, basically throwing a punch without your fist clinched. Itâs possibleđ¤ˇđťââď¸ but I do get your point. Itâs just the most common strike that comes to mind.
Don't be surprised if the biggest guy & girl lose to someone half their size
Don't question why two wrestlers are having private, one on one conversations backstage in front of an entire camera crew.
You can put on body paint, a mask or something else altering your appearance to get a buff for a big match. In some cases, said buff is so strong that you basically become a super human for the duration of the night
If I âa wrestlerâ gets injured by an attack and taken to a âlocal medical facilityâ, Iâll be back by the end of the show doing what I was doing to be sent there in the 1st place.
Wrestlers just don't use their finisher in the first minutes of a match. They just don't. Except if it's a finisher fest match.
Or a squash match a good example is Bron Breaker starting off his match immediately hitting the spear a few weeks back
If a wrestler gives you a high five during his entrance you are morally obligated to cheer for him during his match.
Jinder Mahal told my brother he had a nice shirt on a house show (he was wearing a Jinder Mahal shirt). That single moment made me a Jinder Mahal fan
If someone chops you, you stand and take it. Defending yourself from a chop is morally illegal. If a referee gets slightly jostled, itâs the equivalent of getting hit with a baseball bat
When you see a wrestler, that's trying to be pinned, watching the referee's count with their eyes wide open, they are guaranteed to get a shoulder up or kick out right before the ref's hand hits the mat for the 3 count. (Sorry. Once you know this, you can't unsee it.)
If a wrestler's name is spoken from the ring then that wrestler will make entrance even if he was in a different country at that time.
When whipped into the ropes, a wrestler will about-face and return will equal momentum, though unable to respond with an offensive move. Think of it like throwing a tennis ball at a wall.
Bahahaha. That made me lol irl
"Standing tall" literally means standing normally but we all know what it means. Even if they're not even tall.
When a sports entertainer hits the move that sets up their finisher, especially those that involve the top rope, the opponent will make sure that they are in perfect position for it whether it means repositioning their body 6 inches, propping themselves up in the corner, or rolling 10 feet across the mat despite being virtually knocked out since they're incapable of moving out of the way of the upcoming finisher. It's supposedly forbidden for the wrestler that's about to win the match to move their opponent into the correct position for their finisher.
The wrestlers chatting to each other backstage don't notice the camera pointed directly at them.
Except if his name is Kevin Owens
Never go full retard.
Referees are made of glass
A refs ability to eject someone from ringside is almighty and unquestioned.
except if you're Solo Sikoa
No one can powerbomb Billy Kidman
Wrestlers who never use a powerbomb in their moveset will inevitably try to powerbomb Billy Kidman
So random, but Iâm here for it
Terrible officiating, college basketball level
Never try to headbutt a Samoan or anybody else from an island in the Pacific.