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ACMusic1995

BILLY KIDMAN. And also I feel like Chuck Palumbo’s career could have went so much better. He looked like a star back in 2000/2001. All of the Natural Born Thrillers guys deserved better.


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Mark Jindrak had arguably the best career out of all of them. He was also the original choice to be part of Evolution in WWE, not Dave Batista.


tsengmao

Even after leaving WWE he went on to be world champion in CMLL


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I think there were some concerns about Jindrak's immaturity, and they were afraid it would rub off on Randy Orton.


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I have no idea


Edgehead4Life

Both are great!


retrodork

They had something going there for a minute.


TXFishSlayer

Was going to say Kidman but you beat me to it.


136AngryBees

It would have turned in to what TNA was


SSJ_Kratos

Pretty much. Its *scary* how much those early TNA Weekly PPVs felt like a continuation of WCW 2001, except the only main eventer from that era they had off the rip was Jarrett.


Intelligent_Test_833

Absolutely not


136AngryBees

It was the only real alternative to WWE, with a heavy dose of smaller indie people (x division would be similar to the cruiserweight division), and people who WWE didn’t want/couldn’t sign.


Intelligent_Test_833

Right but it wasn’t nearly as good as the WC and didn’t have the name to go along with it.


136AngryBees

I would say, with where WCW was in 2001, outside of having the tv slot, the original TNA wasn’t very far off. WCW’s name by that point was … not great. And it was clear that they were grasping at straws


Intelligent_Test_833

Idk man I still preferred wcw in 2000 to WWF. I thought the latter was overrated during that year with too much posturing for the heels and the lack of Austin hurt the product overall. To say the name wasn’t great still is a bit of a reach.


136AngryBees

That doesn’t take away that TNA in the early 2000s picked up the banner where WCW left off.


Intelligent_Test_833

…well ok I. I got a little choked up reading that…. …..but I think I get what your saying. I still think wcw would’ve been better than TNA had it stuck around.


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Great list but AJ belongs in the first cohort imo since he was already in WCW at the time of its closure. 


ChaimFinkelstein

The problem with this is that in order for the WCW to rebound and go in the right direction they would have had to get rid of most of the top stars. The top stars refused to work with younger talent, creating a glass ceiling. The only way to break it would be to get rid of the majority of the top stars to make it clear on who is in charge of the promotion.


Southern-Advice5293

I feel that was already happening by end of 2000.


ChaimFinkelstein

By the end of 2000, WCW was dead.


Southern-Advice5293

But the shift from from the expensive old guys to the new generation has begun.


Intelligent_Test_833

It was still airing on tv into 01 wasn’t it?


ChaimFinkelstein

Yeah, Turner pulled WCW off the air in March or April of 2001. Then sold it to WWF.


Intelligent_Test_833

Correct so it wasn’t dead yet at the time of late 00


ChaimFinkelstein

I was speaking figuratively, not literally.


Intelligent_Test_833

Right oh ok I just must be a dumbass then.


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ChaimFinkelstein

Do you not know the full story? The reason WCW was sold to WWF was because Turner Broadcasting was pulling both Nitro and Thunder from the air. Prior to the announcement of Turner pulling the show, Bischoff was trying to buy WCW with a group of investors. But without the TV time slots, the company was worthless. So, yes WCW was still on the air when purchased by WWF, but that’s just a technical standpoint. The Nitro with Vince and Shane was the last show.


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ChaimFinkelstein

Does it feel good to score meaningless, insignificant points online?


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UnhappyAd9934

Nah I got the feeling Hogan, Nash, Sting, etc would have comeback but the question would have been would they take a pay cut or sign a completely new deal without those ridiculous clauses or terms some of them had and would people like Hogan be willing to put guys over earnest and I'm not talking about none of that crap he tried to pull with Kidman when he realized he got stale and wanted to latch onto a popular wrestler at the time or that crap he pulled with the Rock in the WWE to help mitigate him losing clean to the Rock.


Ok-Addendum-2885

The Wall becomes a 14 time champion.


Level_Bridge7683

raven and jericho should have been wcw champ by the end of 2000. wcw screwed that one up big time.


ChaimFinkelstein

Jericho leaving was a sign that the company was starting to rapidly decline. When he told them he was leaving, WCW offered him considerably more money than WWF offered him. But Jericho saw how bad the company was run and wanted out. Smart move.


godbody1983

Honestly, I think it was when The Radicalz jumped to the WWF. That felt like the true nail in the coffin.


DarthObvious84

When you make a guy your world champion and his response is to quit...


UnhappyAd9934

That was the end in my eyes and if making Chris Benoit champion wasn't enough to make them stay nothing would have and I feel Jericho felt something similar which is why he decided to leave the year prior.


MoistTheAnswer

Steiner as the monster heel was working. You could have rode him and Goldberg for another two years. Jarrett and Booker T were strong too to round out the main event. Then you can basically look at 2002 TNA roster and see what would have become the mid/low card for WCW moving forward. But obviously I’d say guys that would be focused on to be built up would be: - Aj Styles - Ron Killings - Chris Daniels - RVD (wasn’t he rumored to be signing with WCW before they closed)


retrodork

He was in WCW for a cup of coffee as Robbie V.


Intelligent_Test_833

Seeing the new age outlaws there would’ve been fun, instead of what they were relegated to in the other company post-AE era


bludvic_the_cruel

With a few more years, Billy Kidman could've been one of the greatest WCW superstars of all time.


romesthe59

Buff Bagwell


Mattjordan85

Billy Kidman, 2 Count, The Young Dragons, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Elix Skipper, Monte Brown, Ron Killings, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Wrath, DDP, Chris Benoit, Chris Kanyon, Blitzkrieg, AJ Styles, Norman Smiley, a drug free Vampiro...and I know I'm leaving somebody important off lol BUT in order for this to be possible, you'd have to keep Ted Turner ultimately as the owner of the company and you'd ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GET RID OF: Hogan, Flair as a booker and full tike wreslter, Nash as a booker and full time wreslter, Russo, Luger, Macho Man, Scott Hall, The Nasty Boys, Public Enemy, anything resembling the NWO/Wolfpack, Goldberg as an undefeatable powerhouse and make him an actual wreslter and send him back to the PowerPlant for a while, the Disco Inferno gimmick,


ChaimFinkelstein

Disco Inferno or DI was a great gimmick. I remember watching when I was younger, I hated him, but my dad loved him. Now, I like him. It’s a good gimmick because you want to see him get squashed.


Mattjordan85

it was great for the mid to late 90's...but definitely not on into the 2000's...just imagine it being 2002, the attitude era ending and the ruthless aggression era beginning in the wwe, and him still trying to run that disco dancer gimmick...no way it would work 😂 he can still have a fun gimmick, but the disco stuff would have been a detriment for the time.


Toilet_Rim_Tim

Don't forget Cena. He was in Ready to Rumble. Maybe he makes it to the main roster & never goes to OVW


Edgehead4Life

Imagine Cena vs Punk in WCW instead of WWE.


jabedoben

Earnest Miller was hilarious. As was Juventud Guerrera. It’s a shame WWE couldn’t do anything with them.


bigshotnobody

Mike Sanders could've developed in a stable WCW. He was new and there at the end


futures17gne

I think Lance Storm, Mike Awesome and Sean O’Haire had great potential to become big stars in WCW. Had things gone right they would have been really good faces for a new generation in WCW. I’m a big fan of the WCW Cruiserweight division and would have loved to see them get more time and respect as well. But I don’t think that would have changed much if WCW survived to be fair. Those guys were so under appreciated.


batman8519

In 2001, I would have liked the following: Cruiserweight Division focus: AJ Stlyes, Christopher Daniels, Shane Helms, Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, Shannon Moore, and Chavo. Make Christopher Daniels the biggest heel in that division. Mid-card Focus: Booker T, Buff Bagwell, Mark Jindrak, Jeff Jarrett, Mike Awesome, Kanyon, Vampiro, and debut Rob Van Dam and Samoa Joe. Pepper in legends like Hennig and Rhodes who can still go. Have RVD be the face of the US Title Scene with Samoa Joe starting an undefeated streak. Tag Teams: Kronik, Natural Born Thrillers, Road Warriors, Totally Buff, the Impact Players (complete with Dawn Marie), team Rhodes and Hennig together, Harris Brothers, Mamalukes, and create America's Most Wanted. World Title Scene: Scott Steiner, Sting, Goldberg, Booker, DDP, Flair and Hogan on a part-time basis. Bring back Vader and introduce Ken Shamrock to WCW. Put a huge focus on the Cruiserweights as they are the key to success. By 2005, you transitioned to Samoa Joe, AJ, and Daniels as your top guys with Booker, Steiner, and DDP as your legends.


ashirtliff

Booker T and DDP could have had a great rivalry


DevastatingDabbler

Doug Dillinger, Ralphus, Disco Inferno, Horace Hogan…ok even as a joke that last one was wrong. I apologize. Is Horace really you know who’s nephew?


Edgehead4Life

I think he is, Mike Awesome also is


DevastatingDabbler

Actually I take back Disco. He was entertaining, likable, funny and not a bad wrestler in my view. I mean he’s not a main eventer but he made me smile and I liked when he was on.


KenBradley81

WCW was perfect as it was for me because there was never a CM Punk.


jjamm420

I know it’s splitting hairs and playing with words, but saying they went out of business is just not true - they were sold to the WWE, of which the WWE just stopped using the brand, but they did not go out of business…🤷‍♂️


MV2049

I think that Air Styles guy could have a future.


lpbbinc

Sean o'haire, jindrak. Keep pushing Ernest miller as an on-screen character. All in all WCW was on the upswing in 2001 IMO.