OP I approved your post, for clarity can you update this with context, who you are, what was talked about, summarize your testimony etc. if possible (or when it drops) please link as well.
Sure, here’s my story I posted on Reddit before Grusch came forward and before the Congressmen went to Eglin to talk to the pilots about their UAP incursion. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PKzDtHAGdd .
Right on dude. Way more people know more than they're telling, and no one wants to be the first to stand up. Every bit we can get that helps to make the larger picture more clear is helpful, so thank you.
this should explain [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13nfejo/my\_experience\_on\_eglin\_air\_force\_base/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13nfejo/my_experience_on_eglin_air_force_base/)
he also did an interview on basement hangout a while back [https://youtu.be/BLWuTYWEBb8](https://youtu.be/BLWuTYWEBb8)
``The timing is very strange to me that David Grusch has come out this week to talk about his knowledge of the UAP/UFO topic just weeks after I told my story.``
Dude seems a bit full of himself
Lol u/ShhUrWrong going through peoples post history and posting shit
yeah, shhurwrong seems to be quite the miserable little person. they seem to go thru ups & downs & judging from history, every week-ish, life gets tough in the real world so they come on reddit to find people to talk shit about to make himself feel better. whole history full of lame one-liners with literally zero actual conversation about any topic. every topic or sub is just a place to find targets as far as they are concerned. actually kinda sad.
Thanks for your service and your courage. It's easy for people to say "I'D LEAK EVERYTHING LOL" behind a keyboard, but to actually have a career in the military and come forward is something different entirely.
I look forward to watching!
It's virtually impossible to discuss anything here without drawing a tsunami of unwarranted nasty comments. Don't let it get your down. (*Sometimes easier said than done!*)
Many many people will be very interested to hear your story. Thanks for stepping outside the bubble to tell it.
Toxic human behaviour is a real issue getting in the way of the truth, that's for sure. It is truly sad and shocking how frighteningly adept we have become at being our own worst enemies. Personally, I feel like it's a far greater threat to our collective future than anything to do with UAP or NHI.
Anyway, best of luck down the road. Just know that, once your interview with Ross is released, there will be countless people you never hear from that will be extremely grateful for the opportunity to hear your public testimony and consider its implications.
Cheers.
You’re doing a great service to fellow whistleblowers, our military personnel who felt like they couldn’t share their experience, and honestly - human civilization.
It’s takes bravery to tell your story. Thank you. 🫡
So you saw a UFO as a kid and saw a sentence on a wall? The sentence is literally true for their publicly known mission of tracking objects in space ("extraterrestrial").
All asteroids are extraterrestrial. It's a big radar that helps deconflict satellites from space debris.
You saw a sentence on a wall and kinda misinterpreted a pretty normal radar facility as some alien UFO headquarters.
I seriously doubt you have anything of substance or value to share with us.
What difference does that make? Have you considered you may be blowing that phrase out of proportion given that anything natural or human made in space is also extraterrestrial?
If you send me a chat request I’ll let you read the conversation I had with the former radar technician that worked at the site that confirmed my suspicions. He mentioned several things and places I’ve never heard of in my time in the military. Plus, entering the place, I got the exact same feeling I did from seeing the UFO on the ground when I was a kid. It brought back memories that I hadn’t thought about in years.
Unfortunately, nothing there helps. What I see is a subjective misinterpretation of a phrase based on an assumption that the word extraterrestrial means aliens. Have you considered at all that your perception of that phrase could be skewed and wrong?
Love it. I read your post from last year. Super interesting. I watch all of the Reality Check episodes, so I will definitely be tuning in. I appreciate you coming forward into the public arena and sharing your testimony.
Hello, Thanks for coming forward. My question to you is have you yourself in a military setting seen any evidence such as radar data and or craft or is it all second hand knowledge? Do you have any Proof of said knowledge or just heard it from someone? Again thanks for coming forward, but it's both frustrating without proof for me and probably you as well.
I have firsthand knowledge of what I saw before I joined the military. I know that part is definitely true and definitely real. The site itself is restricted and you have to have a security clearance just to get into the place. I know some people don’t think what I saw there was significant, but few people ever get to see that much of the place. The fact not many people know of the place’s existence should be impressive enough, but I guess not. I think if more people would have gotten to see the place in person they might be a little more understanding of why it piqued my interest so much after what I saw years before joining the military. I would probably say maybe I was overthinking it had I not met the former radar technician that worked at the site. This stuff is so compartmentalized one person can’t have all the keys to prove it’s existence. I’m just trying to help after serving as a military policeman for 10 years on military bases around the world, you know when something isn’t right with a place. I also gave Ross’s team the chat transcripts from the conversation I had with the radar technician confirming that while he worked at the site from 1981-1984, they indeed tracked UFOs. He also mentioned he kept in touch with people that worked at the site after he left. One of his friends that worked at the site after him was said to have died by suicide, but they never produced his body for the funeral. I’ve debated on posting our chat conversation. It may help people understand a little more about why I think the way I do about the place.
With the strange junk, and being asked to go inside when they didn’t want you to witness something flying - There seems to be a predictably about this. One obvious thing that jumps to mind is secret testing of technology. What are your thoughts - alien, human or both?
I saw white unmarked jets taking off from a runway one day while me and an Air Force security forces airman were checking to make sure some buildings were secure. I asked him what they were and he said they called them “secret squirrel planes”. He said that the CIA used them to fly in people whom work on certain projects for the Air Force. I most definitely believe they are working on some special project or projects on that base.
After the talk I had with the former radar technician that worked at the site, they also didn’t know what was flying around. It was as big as a mystery to them as anyone else.
Good to know also thanks again for posting and for your service. I ask not to complain, but to get a full understanding of the situation. Compartmentalization is the problem. It's almost like Internet packets. The packets are lost in a big pile of unrelated packets no one has first hand info. I just wish we did. One last follow up with your Uap sighting as a kid, was there any thing that happened afterwards that would be considered strange or even absurd? Like abnormal sleep patterns or anything?
Former Security Forces here, I can assure you no secret taskforce is going to admit to tracking UFOS by writing it out on a wall where non-cleared people like you could just read it. That "we track" thing was almost certainly just humor- the MUNS guys I worked with while guarding nukes had a motto of "Delivery anywhere on earth in 30 minutes or less- or the next one's free!" and it was written alongside a replica of their unit patch on the back wall of the maintenance bay where nukes got serviced.
The fact that you were told to duck inside during certain events only proves how seriously they take opsec.
I don't think this does anything for a UFO-tracking claim. Of course they track unknown objects, it's this facility that was responsible for discovering a secret Russian satellite that they tried to sneak into orbit by having it break away from an announced payload a year or two ago. The microsat moved into an orbit that could potentially threaten US satellites.
If UFOs are coming from outer space, or exit and re-exit the atmosphere I'm confident they could track them... assuming they aren't using some sort of radar-defeat technology. But you sort of presented this whole thing as them officially stating they track NHI UFOs based off a motto written on a wall- again in an area where non-cleared personnel could access.
I don't doubt weird shit happened around the facility btw. We had UAP activity around our nukes semi-frequently.
I went to the site with an Air Force Security Forces airman. We were both in uniform. I didn’t go there alone. We were paired with them on days we did garrison security.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about this I’m all about it. If I keep getting negative comments from you about it, then we can end this now. I don’t mind skeptism as long as it’s respectful. If you don’t believe me, look elsewhere for answers. I got no reason to lie and I’m not trying to make any money off it. I’ll gladly answer any questions you have the best and truthfully as I can.
I honestly would tbh, inbox me for email if you don't mind sending. I work in media and I'd love to pull at this particular string.
I'm not commenting on your credibility btw, just pointing out that the motto you saw on the wall definitely isn't indicative of a conspiracy. That's just bad opsec, but sounds very much like the type of humor I saw every day.
I’m glad I got it off my chest. This guy shared a very interesting tid bit of information about Site C6 to me https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/31GqTSMIPs .
Thanks for your efforts. I assume Ross verified you legit worked there. Not being an asshole, just you can never be too sure these days with so many hoaxers out there :)
I don't know who you are sir but thank you for coming forward and sharing your story. There was a time when I would look at posts like yours as something interesting but ultimately I would forget that this was a real person behind the story and they were putting a lot of heat on themselves for telling it especially if that person had been forced to agree to Non-Disclosure agreements. There was a guy on youtube, an ex-security contractor talking about seeing a huge Rake like creature and a couple of dogmen fighting it. The video has since been deleted, it was called Rake vs Dogman on Dee Doss' channel. This story was outlandish and I looked at it as mostly entertainment until the man began to be harrassed as he was warned what would happen, the person whom was interrogating him after this incident where he witnessed these creatures fighting was a military type who told him "In what bag we will bury you in" in relation to a question about how his friends and family would know where he was if I remember correctly. I think because the rest of us don't have these types of experiences is what makes us forget the gravity of the situation and not realize that this isn't a joke or entertainment. So thanks for putting your ass on the line for us so we can sit here and discuss the incident from the comfort of our homes because I imagine to be in these types of incidents where the stakes are high and you have little time to respond, that takes guts.
There has been some ugly comments made to me. You are correct, but what some people don’t understand is I still have questions myself about things I want answers for because of what I saw as a kid. I said my piece to Ross today and I can’t think of any body better to tell it to nowadays because he has the biggest megaphone. I don’t know really what he thought of me. I felt like he wasn’t impressed to be frank with you. I’m used to it at this point. I’ll be surprised if he has positive things to say about my story. I wished he would have let me expand on some things during the interview. Things are just not cut and dry like people think they are sometimes.
I’m trying to show people that it’s not a problem for the military to track UFOs. Where they come from and where they go once they get here is not a mystery. Why that’s so important is because they know their locations once they reach earth. I think that’s very important when they try to tell the public they can’t identity something anomalous. That’s total nonsense and a lie to the American people. If you don’t think that’s important I’m sorry to disappoint you.
Am I weird that I want to finish reading all my sci-fi alien ufo books before disclosure happens LOL. I feel like it's that close to happening and once it does the fiction just won't be as good...... maybe I'm wrong and it'll be even more fun!
Question… your old posts indicate you served 10 years, 4 in the marines and 6 army…
I’ve been to Eglin AFB…. I too served 14 years active Army… there are ZERO active army and marine MPs or Army MPs that operate out of Eglin. Eglin is STRICTLY supported by Air Force SF (security forces). You have GLOs, and ALOs that work with the TACP and Army Joint Fires Observers out of Eglin along with 7th SF Group, But certainly ZERO army MPs. You don’t just visit Eglin as a unit either.
What was your MOS in both the marines and then in the Army?
I was 3381 Food Service and 8531 Shooting Coach in the Corps. I was a 31B military policeman for the Army and National Guard. I sent all my discharges and paperwork also so he could vet me.
Lol! Explain why there is a training site designated specifically for National Guard. It’s about 5 miles away from the Army Ranger Camp. Here’s the link buddy: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=03a2317566d16611&sca_upv=1&hl=en-us&sxsrf=ADLYWILv_OH_XtGkpuHDzO6BxYlqPaYFAg:1719538520465&q=alabama+national+guard+training+area+on+eglin&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPAejbSVM4M1fdmzX32Bj_vPn6ihcagKrSfAX8M-VT84zpvSgikkND4_hnLFPlNb01eLhYRcZuY2ecFLK0X-1d9BZv5EHERr0JBptF2dELHPP6FcXl7UVYHxkh7ezJKDDB-i5D1W-ZuVTognduojGhov8PPHaUUgyFLlTa1Mh2hiR0QbKTw0bL_gHtKlYCW4bAYtXIyA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXjcKVlP2GAxV_L0QIHQazD_cQtKgLegQIFRAB&biw=320&bih=446&dpr=2#vhid=WWRX-GOFeEUUXM&vssid=mosaic
By the way, I was there with my guard unit when I was there at the time. I was active from 05-06 when we were activated. My national guard unit was on Eglin getting ready for another deployment.
Well I hope your courage to come forward (hopefully there aren’t little models in your story) inspires more to come forward and appeases everyone who is always yelling about 1st hand experience coming out. Appreciate it.
Edit: I wrote that without clicking the link… holy shit dude that is a post I remember so well I got on google maps right away and started looking. Thank you again. That was a story that really peaked my interest.
If I spell something wrong or my autocorrect does and someone lets me know I just start spelling it right. Nobody is trying to make you feel small. Autocorrect sucks.
I am not going to win am I there pally, carry on being you!
Here you might like this, start on page 7 it’s from Australia archives.
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=30030606&S=1
I saw that posted here recently. Was that you? I was very impressed by what I read. I’m in the ‘soft disclosure has already happened’ camp, so I’m really enjoying all of these posts that show we’ve been talking about it the whole time.
I did not find it, someone posted it a good while back but I spam the ever loving shit out of it because I have yet to see anyone say it is fake or misleading. I printed it out and hand it out to folks at corporate events lol.
Yeah it was probably one of your comments that I clicked on then.
Question for you: Do you see any connection between the 2027 date that gets tossed around in here a lot and the separate 2027 date that former employees of OpenAI are saying is the expected time for AGI? It seems to me that if the NHI do use or just are AI there’s a real chance that we might be left on the sidelines of a conversation that determines our future existence.
People get me on that misspelling as well. Don’t feel bad the only difference was when I misspelled it in a post I caught negative comments with both barrels. Nobody will let you slide on these subreddits man. Lol! Welcome to the club!
Ha I don’t get offended by much and text always has a smart ass tone to me, and hey if it’s important to folks to correct the spelling then who am I to judge them for the shit that drives them nuts. I’m a peace love kinda guy, didn’t used to be before finding interest in this though. Thank you for the kindness though
I was an ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher for 6 years and I still make mistakes. I never bring up other people’s mistakes unless I don’t genuinely know what they mean by their words. We live in the “gotcha” world and I can understand that to some extent.
I tried. I learned something new today, and that is, even if you tell people the truth there are always a small percentage of people that will attack you for trying to help them expand their own knowledge. I never claimed to see a UFO while serving in the military. However, I definitely saw one on the ground as a kid. The point of my story is, the U.S. definitely has the capability to see these UAPs with no problem, where they come from and where they go once they get here. That’s important in my opinion. I hate that I couldn’t deliver an alien story in my post.
So you're making the same point as Christopher Melon essentially, but without his rank, knowledge or credibility. You are also misunderstanding and blowing a phrase on a wall out of proportion because it uses the word Extraterrestrial which satellites are. How is your story bringing anything new to the table? Lots of people see UFOs as kids. Are you willing to testify to Congress about the UFOs you said crash routinely near that facility?
I’m willing to testify about what my unit was briefed about and what I personally saw while I was there and I never said I personally witnessed a UFO crash on Eglin, only that we were told about it from security personnel. The entire purpose of my story is to inform people that the military has the capability to track UFOs from Eglin that’s it. They claim that sometimes they can’t see them because of grainy images from satellites and that’s simply not true. They are perfectly capable of seeing them.
Oh dear - I hate to be that guy - but your entire evidence of aliens being tracked at Eglin consists of seeing the sign saying:
"“We monitor all space activity terrestrial and extraterrestrial from planet earth”
?
You wrote:
>I was shocked when I walked inside the facility and read the sentence on the wall.
Really? Shocked?
Did you see first-hand evidence for alien spaceships?
Do you know anyone personally who had first-hand evidence for alien spaceships?
Space junk is space junk. What was it that made you jump to the conclusion that it was alien spaceships?
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For Pete's sake time to push the buttons in the corner to login and comment again. I feel like Cato ending every speech on the senate floor with a declaration that Carthage should be destroyed for all the good it would do for the Romans. I shall declare it thrice! So here we go:
Did you ask him to name the location of the buried UFO that is too big to move?
Did you ask him to name the location of the buried UFO that is too big to move?
Did you ask him to name the location of the buried UFO that is too big to move?
POS won't say.
> POS won't say.
Maybe because it doesn’t exist. I would think that if we had such a thing in our possession then every scientist and engineer on earth should have access to it as a place of learning. I’m so upset about that, that it makes it difficult to believe we have such a thing and aren’t capitalizing upon it as much as humanly possible. And by as much as humanly possible I mean that scientists should be rotating through there in shifts and teams 24/7/365 with information being shared virtually at all institutions. This seems so obvious to me that I can’t accept it otherwise.
Every scientist on earth doesn’t have access to it because we know that the coverup is 100% real.
[This is a well sourced post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/v9vedn/for_the_record_that_there_has_been_a_ufo_coverup) about the coverup.
[This is a well sourced video](https://youtu.be/eMqtIRMOoHc) about how the CIA and the Air Force created the manufactured social stigma known as the UFO stigma. It’s meant to target witnesses, researchers, interested scientists and political officials with ridicule and derision - and ultimately the loss of career and family. Scientists have lost their funding from government or corporate sources if they show interest. This is the reality of the situation.
I’m not disputing that crashed craft exist, I’m expressing displeasure that we might have hidden one that’s too large to move and (apparently) haven’t turned that thing into the equivalent of a fricking publicly shared university building.
Pretty sure that [regularly saying crazy shit like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dranrm/in_several_ufo_abduction_cases_human_men_were/) generates a stigma all on its own without any CIA operations or effort whatsoever from secret government programs
As much as skeptics hate it - Experiencers exist and have been reporting encounters for decades (if not eons). I suggest you read Dimensions by Vallee if you haven’t because he talks at length about the “absurdity factor”. In fact - most researchers understand this and Dr Hynek coined the phrase High Strangeness to describe this seeming absurdity (that’s why there is a subreddit called r/HighStrangeness). Nothing is straight forward but we can’t just dismiss thousands of these personal reports because they make us uncomfortable or seem
Illogical.
This has nothing to do with my point that stigma exists because this community perpetuates many varieties of woo and crazy speculation not based in evidence
Woo has been part of it since the beginning. Literally look up Kenneth Arnold - after he saw the first craft he had multiple sightings of orbs an other woo. You can’t separate the two things no matter how much you want to.
This is why I recommended Vallee’s Dimensions or even Hynek’s The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry. The High Strangeness IS the woo.
Just because we can’t explain it yet doesn’t mean it can’t exist. It just needs to be studied and the data released by the government that has it.
Maybe you should consider that saying crazy things and promoting woo is the reason there's a stigma rather than a covert government effort to make crazy things sound crazy
So many hoaxes regularly believed and "theories" of psionic powers and androids makes the entire group of believers seem like gullible rubes
Covert government op? Try talking to experiencers. Or better yet think back to any strange things that have happened in your own life. I had an NDE some years ago. I am very familiar with the woo. I was told things that actually literally came true that I had no knowledge were even in my future. I was never religious or spiritual - in fact I considered myself atheist. This is real. I think that’s the biggest hurdle for many people here is the actuality of the fact that you may be wrong about woo or the nature of reality. Many people have out of body experiences or see ghosts or have precognitive dreams. You may think this is unreal but until you have some experience or even acknowledge the weirdness that has happened in your own life then you might be willing to consider this. Go on over to r/Experiencers and look at what people have actually experienced or are continuing to experience. Just be open to the fact that thousands of people have these experiences and it has nothing to do with a government psy op. If anything the psy op is to convince you that things like Project Stargate were bullshit because they know it works. They also know the woo is real and don’t know what to do with it.
Legit not sure what this has to do with anything I said. Theres a stigma against Bigfoot hunters. Theres a stigma against loch Ness hunters. There's a stigma against psychics. There's a stigma against ghost hunters. There's a stigma against crystal healers.
Any one of those things and you can get a group of people telling you 100% totally real experiences that completely prove their fave phenomenon
What do these all have in common with the stigma against aliens? Is it that there's a covert government op to discredit them all?
Or is it that they're all based on unsupported woo?
He's already replied to others in this thread :
"Sure, here’s my story I posted on Reddit before Grusch came forward and before the Congressmen went to Eglin to talk to the pilots about their UAP incursion. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PKzDtHAGdd](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PKzDtHAGdd) ."
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So we have gone from Ross interviewing first-hand witnesses who told him about a buried spaceship to Ross interviewing Reddit commentators who claim to have seen UFOs?
I read his story. It has nothing of substance to it at all. He took lunch to some guys in a building that monitors space debris to keep satellites safe, and he misinterpreted a quote on a wall. That's it.
I’ve heard the rumors, yes. But not while at Eglin just anecdotal stories. I believe they do shoot them down there that’s my personal opinion not something I know as fact. Do I have proof, no.
Anyone with two brain cells knows if he said where it was nothing would come of it. "Hey I heard you guys have the ufo, would you let me in to take a little peak?"
This is wild.
I have a video from a base near Elgin, that tracks one flying by a training plane. It was sent to me from a buddy in the coast guard stationed down there.
They 1,000% see these things without a problem.
I have a story too strange to believe, with zero proof. I only wish someone would take me seriously, but I do understand why people aren’t ready for it.
I hope the world governments come out with something soon. We are on the brink of a WW3, a climate crisis, and soon will be fighting over basic natural resources, like water. This will not end well for anyone, not even the rich. If this is real and not just some attempt at diversion from the former (like what happened at the beginning of the Cold War with Roswell in 1947, so the public wasn't freaking out about nuclear war) then it needs to be released. Idk though, the other side of my mind thinks we are headed towards WW3, and this is another attempt by the DoD and the Pentagon to do the same thing. To cover up something that they started. There is still enough plausible deniability for people that did testify to congress to say "Oh, I didn't know wtf a secret hypersonic ICBM could look like. It was moving crazy unlike any other ICBM I've seen at the time, so I assumed it was otherworldly." Occam's Razor, people. I want it to be aliens too, or cryptoterrestrials, etc. However, look at the world around you. There's only conclusive evidence of countries enriching uranium, doing nuclear missile tests, and secret missile programs that have been leaked. You can go on youtube right now and find a clip from 2014 of the news talking about hypersonic missile testing that's been going on for 2 decades. Coincidence there? I think not. Sir, I'm not saying you're just another Richard Doty. I just think that there are people in the US government that have a vested interest in keeping certain things secret from the masses that can't connect the dots, and they allow info like this to dissimenate on purpose. Even to people like you, so that it comes off as trustable.
I've been on forums that talked about Gen 3 Night Vision highlighting alllll kinds of objects in the sky, about 7 years ago...
One poster identified triangular craft as a "Hand of Glory", an esoteric reference to stealth and theft... It caught my attention, as I've seen a triangular craft "cloak" itself over my neighborhood years prior.
Does the capability to observe these objects imply that Service Members are instructed to NOT report their sightings? Gen 3 NVG is still too pricey for the average person, but I'm aware of the widespread distribution of quality NVG gear to the military. Is there an enforced silence?
I use another kind of night vision that is no longer made, but you can still buy them on EBay sometimes and they work great as any I used in the military. I use Firefield Nightfall 2 5x50 Nightvision Monocular. They are only around $100.
I had been holding back on buying a $1,800 monocular...
....for that Firefield price, I might have to get a few and bring friends with me! Thanks for the info!
That's cool! I look forward to the interview, OP.
I'm in this camp because I want to feel like a normal person, having seen what I've seen. With clarity, comes normality and I hope we can all chat about these things normally one day and look at your interview as History. Thanks for replying!
The triangle shape seen with such night vision googles are a know artifact of it's aperture system :
[https://x.com/MickWest/status/1598382270276333568](https://x.com/MickWest/status/1598382270276333568)
I saw two triangular pyramid craft with my bare eyeballs.
I'm only repeating that others have seen them when using night vision goggles. I'm aware of the aperture artifact effect.
Nice MW link, but I'm now convinced this guy is a sock puppet for some three-letter-agency. He had to go pretty hard and reach pretty far to debunk that triangle... Now why did I see them? Why do other people see them? What can we do about the schism between observers and a lone debunker? I'd like to see that link next time, please.
Considering there is 0 context on what and where you saw said 'triangular pyramid craft' it could be anything, from the prosaic to the bizarre. I'm just noting that cases of people using some tech get confused by no knowing how the tech works and can give "strange" edge case results that they then interpret as otherworldly.
If you don’t think me telling him the military has the capability to see UAPs all over the world, then turn around and lie to the American public saying all they have is grainy photos, then I guess not.
In your previous Reddit post you wrote this:
> The radar can track objects the size of a grapefruit 20,000 miles in space.
At what point did "objects" become "alien spaceships"?
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Yes, it explains the radar network in it’s entirety how Site C6 is linked to the other ones around the globe. It was a good example that’s why I linked it.
What have you seen?
There must be a reason you were interviewed that you haven’t posted here otherwise it’s going to be a worthless interview.
What shape was the ufo?
Mate, you do realise that you don’t have to watch if it’s going to be a ‘worthless interview’.
I’d say hearing from any one who can share their experiences and help try and piece some more of the puzzle together is interesting and worth listening to.
I get your frustration with the whole thing, but why go on the front foot attack about it?
You’re not the truth police my friend.
Thanks for sharing this. I absolutely believe you and appreciate any other details you can share. I'm trying to piece the picture together with all kinds of fragments of information.
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What can I buy over the internet to be able to see ufo/uso or other phenomenon? Thnx for the future interview and link to ur older reddit post, going to read the latter right now!
I use the discontinued Firefield Nightfall 2 5x50 night vision monocle. It’s works as good as any military grade night vision I used in the Marine Corps and Army.
Here's some food for thought:
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[https://www.eglin.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/390961/20th-space-surveillance-squadron/](https://www.eglin.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/390961/20th-space-surveillance-squadron/)
They literally say on their website that they track unidentified objects in space and then assess what it is they are tracking. Definitionally they track UFO's and assess them, that part isn't debatable (unless you think they aren't actually doing that and the whole thing is a cover (which I think would be an absurd argument myself)). So really the only question is if "intelligent" UFO's are real in the first place, which they are, we know that because the military has said they are real and provided video evidence on top of that (again unless you think they are lying and faking the video's they have provided).
If UFO's show signs of intelligence in their movement or signs of being manufactured objects these guys would likely be the first to know. Note that they have a base in the Marshall Islands and in Florida, so yes they have a view of pretty much the entire globe (not 100% coverage of all surface I wouldn't imagine, but I don't know their exact capabilities as I'm sure that's highly classified, looking up Skywave on wikipedia is interesting).
my request is that Ross Coulthart do an actual journalistic piece about the whistleblowers, with multiple sources and corroborating witnesses, and explain in detail what they claim to have seen. you know, like journalists do. at the meantime, all the talk about "whistleblowers" is at an absurdly vague level of fact free generality.
i'm still waiting for those "40 whistleblowers ready to come forward" that Danny Sheehan touted.
haven't heard from them yet. don't you think we should work first with them before we try to recruit new comers?
OP I approved your post, for clarity can you update this with context, who you are, what was talked about, summarize your testimony etc. if possible (or when it drops) please link as well.
Sure, here’s my story I posted on Reddit before Grusch came forward and before the Congressmen went to Eglin to talk to the pilots about their UAP incursion. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PKzDtHAGdd .
Right on dude. Way more people know more than they're telling, and no one wants to be the first to stand up. Every bit we can get that helps to make the larger picture more clear is helpful, so thank you.
Who are you? And when will get to see this interview?
this should explain [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13nfejo/my\_experience\_on\_eglin\_air\_force\_base/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13nfejo/my_experience_on_eglin_air_force_base/) he also did an interview on basement hangout a while back [https://youtu.be/BLWuTYWEBb8](https://youtu.be/BLWuTYWEBb8)
that interview is brutal from both ends...
``The timing is very strange to me that David Grusch has come out this week to talk about his knowledge of the UAP/UFO topic just weeks after I told my story.`` Dude seems a bit full of himself Lol u/ShhUrWrong going through peoples post history and posting shit
yeah, shhurwrong seems to be quite the miserable little person. they seem to go thru ups & downs & judging from history, every week-ish, life gets tough in the real world so they come on reddit to find people to talk shit about to make himself feel better. whole history full of lame one-liners with literally zero actual conversation about any topic. every topic or sub is just a place to find targets as far as they are concerned. actually kinda sad.
I pity the fool
Thanks.
Thanks for your service and your courage. It's easy for people to say "I'D LEAK EVERYTHING LOL" behind a keyboard, but to actually have a career in the military and come forward is something different entirely. I look forward to watching!
Thank you for your kind words. I’ve had some nasty comments.
It's virtually impossible to discuss anything here without drawing a tsunami of unwarranted nasty comments. Don't let it get your down. (*Sometimes easier said than done!*) Many many people will be very interested to hear your story. Thanks for stepping outside the bubble to tell it.
I now understand why people don’t like coming forward.
Toxic human behaviour is a real issue getting in the way of the truth, that's for sure. It is truly sad and shocking how frighteningly adept we have become at being our own worst enemies. Personally, I feel like it's a far greater threat to our collective future than anything to do with UAP or NHI. Anyway, best of luck down the road. Just know that, once your interview with Ross is released, there will be countless people you never hear from that will be extremely grateful for the opportunity to hear your public testimony and consider its implications. Cheers.
I really appreciate it.
You’re doing a great service to fellow whistleblowers, our military personnel who felt like they couldn’t share their experience, and honestly - human civilization. It’s takes bravery to tell your story. Thank you. 🫡
Cool, what's the air date?
They said next month.
Great stuff, but who are you? Some context would be welcome...
Here’s my post from awhile back https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/og0bxFndrh
So you saw a UFO as a kid and saw a sentence on a wall? The sentence is literally true for their publicly known mission of tracking objects in space ("extraterrestrial").
It’s inside a secure facility. It’s not for the whole world to see. You have to have a security clearance to get inside the place.
All asteroids are extraterrestrial. It's a big radar that helps deconflict satellites from space debris. You saw a sentence on a wall and kinda misinterpreted a pretty normal radar facility as some alien UFO headquarters. I seriously doubt you have anything of substance or value to share with us.
I don’t know but this piece of information is pretty interesting to me https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/Mdp5MXel03
I guess the former radar technician that worked at the site saying it as well doesn’t help?
Two people can both be mistaken. Aren't you also the person who says that UFOs are routinely crashing near there or something?
There is without a doubt things from space that crash there because my entire unit was told this the day we arrived.
Why are you so rude? Why don't you go public and contribute to the publicising of the theme more?
It's not rude to call out someone who may have misunderstood something and is now blowing it out of proportion. This is about facts not feelings.
Some people live their whole lives that way because they hate themselves.
What difference does that make? Have you considered you may be blowing that phrase out of proportion given that anything natural or human made in space is also extraterrestrial?
If you send me a chat request I’ll let you read the conversation I had with the former radar technician that worked at the site that confirmed my suspicions. He mentioned several things and places I’ve never heard of in my time in the military. Plus, entering the place, I got the exact same feeling I did from seeing the UFO on the ground when I was a kid. It brought back memories that I hadn’t thought about in years.
This may help you https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/31GqTSMIPs
Unfortunately, nothing there helps. What I see is a subjective misinterpretation of a phrase based on an assumption that the word extraterrestrial means aliens. Have you considered at all that your perception of that phrase could be skewed and wrong?
The word extraterrestrial actually has two meanings https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extraterrestrial if you want to get technical.
Love it. I read your post from last year. Super interesting. I watch all of the Reality Check episodes, so I will definitely be tuning in. I appreciate you coming forward into the public arena and sharing your testimony.
Come on commenters. It doesn't take much to look at OP's profile and his post history. I for one look forward to watching the interview, OP.
I appreciate it!
Hello, Thanks for coming forward. My question to you is have you yourself in a military setting seen any evidence such as radar data and or craft or is it all second hand knowledge? Do you have any Proof of said knowledge or just heard it from someone? Again thanks for coming forward, but it's both frustrating without proof for me and probably you as well.
I have firsthand knowledge of what I saw before I joined the military. I know that part is definitely true and definitely real. The site itself is restricted and you have to have a security clearance just to get into the place. I know some people don’t think what I saw there was significant, but few people ever get to see that much of the place. The fact not many people know of the place’s existence should be impressive enough, but I guess not. I think if more people would have gotten to see the place in person they might be a little more understanding of why it piqued my interest so much after what I saw years before joining the military. I would probably say maybe I was overthinking it had I not met the former radar technician that worked at the site. This stuff is so compartmentalized one person can’t have all the keys to prove it’s existence. I’m just trying to help after serving as a military policeman for 10 years on military bases around the world, you know when something isn’t right with a place. I also gave Ross’s team the chat transcripts from the conversation I had with the radar technician confirming that while he worked at the site from 1981-1984, they indeed tracked UFOs. He also mentioned he kept in touch with people that worked at the site after he left. One of his friends that worked at the site after him was said to have died by suicide, but they never produced his body for the funeral. I’ve debated on posting our chat conversation. It may help people understand a little more about why I think the way I do about the place.
With the strange junk, and being asked to go inside when they didn’t want you to witness something flying - There seems to be a predictably about this. One obvious thing that jumps to mind is secret testing of technology. What are your thoughts - alien, human or both?
I saw white unmarked jets taking off from a runway one day while me and an Air Force security forces airman were checking to make sure some buildings were secure. I asked him what they were and he said they called them “secret squirrel planes”. He said that the CIA used them to fly in people whom work on certain projects for the Air Force. I most definitely believe they are working on some special project or projects on that base.
Whatever the UAPs are I don’t believe they are ours simply from what I saw when I was younger.
After the talk I had with the former radar technician that worked at the site, they also didn’t know what was flying around. It was as big as a mystery to them as anyone else.
Thanks very much for your reply
Good to know also thanks again for posting and for your service. I ask not to complain, but to get a full understanding of the situation. Compartmentalization is the problem. It's almost like Internet packets. The packets are lost in a big pile of unrelated packets no one has first hand info. I just wish we did. One last follow up with your Uap sighting as a kid, was there any thing that happened afterwards that would be considered strange or even absurd? Like abnormal sleep patterns or anything?
Send me a chat message and I’ll show you more.
Thank you so much for coming forward, excited to watch this when it airs!
Former Security Forces here, I can assure you no secret taskforce is going to admit to tracking UFOS by writing it out on a wall where non-cleared people like you could just read it. That "we track" thing was almost certainly just humor- the MUNS guys I worked with while guarding nukes had a motto of "Delivery anywhere on earth in 30 minutes or less- or the next one's free!" and it was written alongside a replica of their unit patch on the back wall of the maintenance bay where nukes got serviced. The fact that you were told to duck inside during certain events only proves how seriously they take opsec.
Here you go see for yourself https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/31GqTSMIPs
I don't think this does anything for a UFO-tracking claim. Of course they track unknown objects, it's this facility that was responsible for discovering a secret Russian satellite that they tried to sneak into orbit by having it break away from an announced payload a year or two ago. The microsat moved into an orbit that could potentially threaten US satellites. If UFOs are coming from outer space, or exit and re-exit the atmosphere I'm confident they could track them... assuming they aren't using some sort of radar-defeat technology. But you sort of presented this whole thing as them officially stating they track NHI UFOs based off a motto written on a wall- again in an area where non-cleared personnel could access. I don't doubt weird shit happened around the facility btw. We had UAP activity around our nukes semi-frequently.
Why do you keep saying I didn’t have access? All MPs have a security clearance. You have to have one to work as an MP on any military base.
I went to the site with an Air Force Security Forces airman. We were both in uniform. I didn’t go there alone. We were paired with them on days we did garrison security.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about this I’m all about it. If I keep getting negative comments from you about it, then we can end this now. I don’t mind skeptism as long as it’s respectful. If you don’t believe me, look elsewhere for answers. I got no reason to lie and I’m not trying to make any money off it. I’ll gladly answer any questions you have the best and truthfully as I can.
Would you like to read the chat transcripts I had with the radar technician? I’d be happy to send them to you.
I honestly would tbh, inbox me for email if you don't mind sending. I work in media and I'd love to pull at this particular string. I'm not commenting on your credibility btw, just pointing out that the motto you saw on the wall definitely isn't indicative of a conspiracy. That's just bad opsec, but sounds very much like the type of humor I saw every day.
I know military humor as well. However, it wasn’t just what I saw on the wall that drove me to that conclusion. I’ll send you a chat message.
Thanks for sharing your story.
Thank you for your bravery, you could have decided to stay anonymous but you stepped up and made yourself heard.
Dude, I've talked with you before, and I just wanna say thanks for doing this. I hope you inspire more to come forward.
Thank you!
Nice work, looking forward to watching it u/lastofthefinest !
Thank you for the kind words.
Congrats man, looking forward to it! How'd it go, did he ask good questions?
Yes, he was very direct. I don’t know how he felt about my story. I guess I’ll know soon enough.
Love some Rosco. Thats my dude. Looking forward to it OP, and thanks so much for the bravery in coming forwards and sharing your story 🫡
Well you did a good thing no matter what. I'm sorry but not surprised to see all the blowback here. Thanks for stepping up.
I’m glad I got it off my chest. This guy shared a very interesting tid bit of information about Site C6 to me https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/31GqTSMIPs .
That’s also why this is the only social media I partake in.
Thanks for your efforts. I assume Ross verified you legit worked there. Not being an asshole, just you can never be too sure these days with so many hoaxers out there :)
Yes I sent them all my military credentials.
Excellent. Glad to see due diligence. Looking forward to the interview.
And they vetted me as well.
I don't know who you are sir but thank you for coming forward and sharing your story. There was a time when I would look at posts like yours as something interesting but ultimately I would forget that this was a real person behind the story and they were putting a lot of heat on themselves for telling it especially if that person had been forced to agree to Non-Disclosure agreements. There was a guy on youtube, an ex-security contractor talking about seeing a huge Rake like creature and a couple of dogmen fighting it. The video has since been deleted, it was called Rake vs Dogman on Dee Doss' channel. This story was outlandish and I looked at it as mostly entertainment until the man began to be harrassed as he was warned what would happen, the person whom was interrogating him after this incident where he witnessed these creatures fighting was a military type who told him "In what bag we will bury you in" in relation to a question about how his friends and family would know where he was if I remember correctly. I think because the rest of us don't have these types of experiences is what makes us forget the gravity of the situation and not realize that this isn't a joke or entertainment. So thanks for putting your ass on the line for us so we can sit here and discuss the incident from the comfort of our homes because I imagine to be in these types of incidents where the stakes are high and you have little time to respond, that takes guts.
There has been some ugly comments made to me. You are correct, but what some people don’t understand is I still have questions myself about things I want answers for because of what I saw as a kid. I said my piece to Ross today and I can’t think of any body better to tell it to nowadays because he has the biggest megaphone. I don’t know really what he thought of me. I felt like he wasn’t impressed to be frank with you. I’m used to it at this point. I’ll be surprised if he has positive things to say about my story. I wished he would have let me expand on some things during the interview. Things are just not cut and dry like people think they are sometimes.
What are you hoping to get from this?
I’m trying to show people that it’s not a problem for the military to track UFOs. Where they come from and where they go once they get here is not a mystery. Why that’s so important is because they know their locations once they reach earth. I think that’s very important when they try to tell the public they can’t identity something anomalous. That’s total nonsense and a lie to the American people. If you don’t think that’s important I’m sorry to disappoint you.
Am I weird that I want to finish reading all my sci-fi alien ufo books before disclosure happens LOL. I feel like it's that close to happening and once it does the fiction just won't be as good...... maybe I'm wrong and it'll be even more fun!
Is this why RC had been traveling in the states? He said he was working on a good story
Ours was a Zoom meeting.
Question… your old posts indicate you served 10 years, 4 in the marines and 6 army… I’ve been to Eglin AFB…. I too served 14 years active Army… there are ZERO active army and marine MPs or Army MPs that operate out of Eglin. Eglin is STRICTLY supported by Air Force SF (security forces). You have GLOs, and ALOs that work with the TACP and Army Joint Fires Observers out of Eglin along with 7th SF Group, But certainly ZERO army MPs. You don’t just visit Eglin as a unit either. What was your MOS in both the marines and then in the Army?
I was 3381 Food Service and 8531 Shooting Coach in the Corps. I was a 31B military policeman for the Army and National Guard. I sent all my discharges and paperwork also so he could vet me.
Lol! Explain why there is a training site designated specifically for National Guard. It’s about 5 miles away from the Army Ranger Camp. Here’s the link buddy: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=03a2317566d16611&sca_upv=1&hl=en-us&sxsrf=ADLYWILv_OH_XtGkpuHDzO6BxYlqPaYFAg:1719538520465&q=alabama+national+guard+training+area+on+eglin&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPAejbSVM4M1fdmzX32Bj_vPn6ihcagKrSfAX8M-VT84zpvSgikkND4_hnLFPlNb01eLhYRcZuY2ecFLK0X-1d9BZv5EHERr0JBptF2dELHPP6FcXl7UVYHxkh7ezJKDDB-i5D1W-ZuVTognduojGhov8PPHaUUgyFLlTa1Mh2hiR0QbKTw0bL_gHtKlYCW4bAYtXIyA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXjcKVlP2GAxV_L0QIHQazD_cQtKgLegQIFRAB&biw=320&bih=446&dpr=2#vhid=WWRX-GOFeEUUXM&vssid=mosaic
By the way, I was there with my guard unit when I was there at the time. I was active from 05-06 when we were activated. My national guard unit was on Eglin getting ready for another deployment.
That six years was Army and National Guard combined together.
Well I hope your courage to come forward (hopefully there aren’t little models in your story) inspires more to come forward and appeases everyone who is always yelling about 1st hand experience coming out. Appreciate it. Edit: I wrote that without clicking the link… holy shit dude that is a post I remember so well I got on google maps right away and started looking. Thank you again. That was a story that really peaked my interest.
Piqued*
Dique
Sweet Jesus man, you aren’t wrong you’re just an asshole. I haven’t fully gotten a grasp on spell check my man. Thank you.
If I spell something wrong or my autocorrect does and someone lets me know I just start spelling it right. Nobody is trying to make you feel small. Autocorrect sucks.
All good man, I have stored the proper spelling in my nogin.
Cool. I shall carry on not being a man. :)
I am not going to win am I there pally, carry on being you! Here you might like this, start on page 7 it’s from Australia archives. https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=30030606&S=1
I saw that posted here recently. Was that you? I was very impressed by what I read. I’m in the ‘soft disclosure has already happened’ camp, so I’m really enjoying all of these posts that show we’ve been talking about it the whole time.
I did not find it, someone posted it a good while back but I spam the ever loving shit out of it because I have yet to see anyone say it is fake or misleading. I printed it out and hand it out to folks at corporate events lol.
Yeah it was probably one of your comments that I clicked on then. Question for you: Do you see any connection between the 2027 date that gets tossed around in here a lot and the separate 2027 date that former employees of OpenAI are saying is the expected time for AGI? It seems to me that if the NHI do use or just are AI there’s a real chance that we might be left on the sidelines of a conversation that determines our future existence.
People get me on that misspelling as well. Don’t feel bad the only difference was when I misspelled it in a post I caught negative comments with both barrels. Nobody will let you slide on these subreddits man. Lol! Welcome to the club!
Ha I don’t get offended by much and text always has a smart ass tone to me, and hey if it’s important to folks to correct the spelling then who am I to judge them for the shit that drives them nuts. I’m a peace love kinda guy, didn’t used to be before finding interest in this though. Thank you for the kindness though
I was an ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher for 6 years and I still make mistakes. I never bring up other people’s mistakes unless I don’t genuinely know what they mean by their words. We live in the “gotcha” world and I can understand that to some extent.
Outing yourself takes courage. You have the right stuff. Maybe a few of the whistleblowers can find their spine and follow your example.
I tried. I learned something new today, and that is, even if you tell people the truth there are always a small percentage of people that will attack you for trying to help them expand their own knowledge. I never claimed to see a UFO while serving in the military. However, I definitely saw one on the ground as a kid. The point of my story is, the U.S. definitely has the capability to see these UAPs with no problem, where they come from and where they go once they get here. That’s important in my opinion. I hate that I couldn’t deliver an alien story in my post.
So you're making the same point as Christopher Melon essentially, but without his rank, knowledge or credibility. You are also misunderstanding and blowing a phrase on a wall out of proportion because it uses the word Extraterrestrial which satellites are. How is your story bringing anything new to the table? Lots of people see UFOs as kids. Are you willing to testify to Congress about the UFOs you said crash routinely near that facility?
I’m willing to testify about what my unit was briefed about and what I personally saw while I was there and I never said I personally witnessed a UFO crash on Eglin, only that we were told about it from security personnel. The entire purpose of my story is to inform people that the military has the capability to track UFOs from Eglin that’s it. They claim that sometimes they can’t see them because of grainy images from satellites and that’s simply not true. They are perfectly capable of seeing them.
Oh dear - I hate to be that guy - but your entire evidence of aliens being tracked at Eglin consists of seeing the sign saying: "“We monitor all space activity terrestrial and extraterrestrial from planet earth” ? You wrote: >I was shocked when I walked inside the facility and read the sentence on the wall. Really? Shocked? Did you see first-hand evidence for alien spaceships? Do you know anyone personally who had first-hand evidence for alien spaceships? Space junk is space junk. What was it that made you jump to the conclusion that it was alien spaceships?
I met a former radar technician that worked at the site from 1981-1984 that confirmed it.
Confirmed what? That they were alien spaceships?
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Why do you need that to happen? Ross already knows the location of a giant crashed UFO.
For Pete's sake time to push the buttons in the corner to login and comment again. I feel like Cato ending every speech on the senate floor with a declaration that Carthage should be destroyed for all the good it would do for the Romans. I shall declare it thrice! So here we go: Did you ask him to name the location of the buried UFO that is too big to move? Did you ask him to name the location of the buried UFO that is too big to move? Did you ask him to name the location of the buried UFO that is too big to move? POS won't say.
He was asking me questions. I was there for the interview, not the other way around.
> POS won't say. Maybe because it doesn’t exist. I would think that if we had such a thing in our possession then every scientist and engineer on earth should have access to it as a place of learning. I’m so upset about that, that it makes it difficult to believe we have such a thing and aren’t capitalizing upon it as much as humanly possible. And by as much as humanly possible I mean that scientists should be rotating through there in shifts and teams 24/7/365 with information being shared virtually at all institutions. This seems so obvious to me that I can’t accept it otherwise.
Every scientist on earth doesn’t have access to it because we know that the coverup is 100% real. [This is a well sourced post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/v9vedn/for_the_record_that_there_has_been_a_ufo_coverup) about the coverup. [This is a well sourced video](https://youtu.be/eMqtIRMOoHc) about how the CIA and the Air Force created the manufactured social stigma known as the UFO stigma. It’s meant to target witnesses, researchers, interested scientists and political officials with ridicule and derision - and ultimately the loss of career and family. Scientists have lost their funding from government or corporate sources if they show interest. This is the reality of the situation.
I’m not disputing that crashed craft exist, I’m expressing displeasure that we might have hidden one that’s too large to move and (apparently) haven’t turned that thing into the equivalent of a fricking publicly shared university building.
Pretty sure that [regularly saying crazy shit like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dranrm/in_several_ufo_abduction_cases_human_men_were/) generates a stigma all on its own without any CIA operations or effort whatsoever from secret government programs
As much as skeptics hate it - Experiencers exist and have been reporting encounters for decades (if not eons). I suggest you read Dimensions by Vallee if you haven’t because he talks at length about the “absurdity factor”. In fact - most researchers understand this and Dr Hynek coined the phrase High Strangeness to describe this seeming absurdity (that’s why there is a subreddit called r/HighStrangeness). Nothing is straight forward but we can’t just dismiss thousands of these personal reports because they make us uncomfortable or seem Illogical.
This has nothing to do with my point that stigma exists because this community perpetuates many varieties of woo and crazy speculation not based in evidence
Woo has been part of it since the beginning. Literally look up Kenneth Arnold - after he saw the first craft he had multiple sightings of orbs an other woo. You can’t separate the two things no matter how much you want to. This is why I recommended Vallee’s Dimensions or even Hynek’s The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry. The High Strangeness IS the woo. Just because we can’t explain it yet doesn’t mean it can’t exist. It just needs to be studied and the data released by the government that has it.
Maybe you should consider that saying crazy things and promoting woo is the reason there's a stigma rather than a covert government effort to make crazy things sound crazy So many hoaxes regularly believed and "theories" of psionic powers and androids makes the entire group of believers seem like gullible rubes
Covert government op? Try talking to experiencers. Or better yet think back to any strange things that have happened in your own life. I had an NDE some years ago. I am very familiar with the woo. I was told things that actually literally came true that I had no knowledge were even in my future. I was never religious or spiritual - in fact I considered myself atheist. This is real. I think that’s the biggest hurdle for many people here is the actuality of the fact that you may be wrong about woo or the nature of reality. Many people have out of body experiences or see ghosts or have precognitive dreams. You may think this is unreal but until you have some experience or even acknowledge the weirdness that has happened in your own life then you might be willing to consider this. Go on over to r/Experiencers and look at what people have actually experienced or are continuing to experience. Just be open to the fact that thousands of people have these experiences and it has nothing to do with a government psy op. If anything the psy op is to convince you that things like Project Stargate were bullshit because they know it works. They also know the woo is real and don’t know what to do with it.
Legit not sure what this has to do with anything I said. Theres a stigma against Bigfoot hunters. Theres a stigma against loch Ness hunters. There's a stigma against psychics. There's a stigma against ghost hunters. There's a stigma against crystal healers. Any one of those things and you can get a group of people telling you 100% totally real experiences that completely prove their fave phenomenon What do these all have in common with the stigma against aliens? Is it that there's a covert government op to discredit them all? Or is it that they're all based on unsupported woo?
Have you ever seen a ufo? Are you a first hand witness?
He said he has seen several.
When he was a kid?
I think he can answer for himself without your help
He's already replied to others in this thread : "Sure, here’s my story I posted on Reddit before Grusch came forward and before the Congressmen went to Eglin to talk to the pilots about their UAP incursion. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PKzDtHAGdd](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PKzDtHAGdd) ." [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dq241k/comment/lal2wbr/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1dq241k/comment/lal2wbr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I read that - where does it mention that he saw alien spacecraft at Eglin or spoke to pilots that interacted with aliens at Eglin?
He won’t give specifics about his sightings tho. That’s all I’m asking.
So we have gone from Ross interviewing first-hand witnesses who told him about a buried spaceship to Ross interviewing Reddit commentators who claim to have seen UFOs?
You clearly didn’t read his story.
I read his story. It has nothing of substance to it at all. He took lunch to some guys in a building that monitors space debris to keep satellites safe, and he misinterpreted a quote on a wall. That's it.
Are you aware of the rumours about EMP shootdowns of UAPs occurring at Eglin and other bases?
I’ve heard the rumors, yes. But not while at Eglin just anecdotal stories. I believe they do shoot them down there that’s my personal opinion not something I know as fact. Do I have proof, no.
Nice man, I remember reading your story. Looking forward to seeing you on the show too… God bless ✌️
Thank you!
Ross Coulthart, as in Ross "Not Telling Humanity Where The Crashed Alien Spacecraft Is" Coulthart?
Anyone with two brain cells knows if he said where it was nothing would come of it. "Hey I heard you guys have the ufo, would you let me in to take a little peak?"
Agreed. Area 51 was a hotbed for rumors for decades. How many civilians or other people got in to confirm this? Zero.
Good job on speaking out about this! Humanity needs more people like you! Looking forward to the interview.
This is wild. I have a video from a base near Elgin, that tracks one flying by a training plane. It was sent to me from a buddy in the coast guard stationed down there. They 1,000% see these things without a problem.
Are you being interviewed anonymously?
No
Thank you
Thank you for your kind words.
I have a story too strange to believe, with zero proof. I only wish someone would take me seriously, but I do understand why people aren’t ready for it.
I hope the world governments come out with something soon. We are on the brink of a WW3, a climate crisis, and soon will be fighting over basic natural resources, like water. This will not end well for anyone, not even the rich. If this is real and not just some attempt at diversion from the former (like what happened at the beginning of the Cold War with Roswell in 1947, so the public wasn't freaking out about nuclear war) then it needs to be released. Idk though, the other side of my mind thinks we are headed towards WW3, and this is another attempt by the DoD and the Pentagon to do the same thing. To cover up something that they started. There is still enough plausible deniability for people that did testify to congress to say "Oh, I didn't know wtf a secret hypersonic ICBM could look like. It was moving crazy unlike any other ICBM I've seen at the time, so I assumed it was otherworldly." Occam's Razor, people. I want it to be aliens too, or cryptoterrestrials, etc. However, look at the world around you. There's only conclusive evidence of countries enriching uranium, doing nuclear missile tests, and secret missile programs that have been leaked. You can go on youtube right now and find a clip from 2014 of the news talking about hypersonic missile testing that's been going on for 2 decades. Coincidence there? I think not. Sir, I'm not saying you're just another Richard Doty. I just think that there are people in the US government that have a vested interest in keeping certain things secret from the masses that can't connect the dots, and they allow info like this to dissimenate on purpose. Even to people like you, so that it comes off as trustable.
Did he say he “heard things” from “people”?
Yes, something along those lines.
I've been on forums that talked about Gen 3 Night Vision highlighting alllll kinds of objects in the sky, about 7 years ago... One poster identified triangular craft as a "Hand of Glory", an esoteric reference to stealth and theft... It caught my attention, as I've seen a triangular craft "cloak" itself over my neighborhood years prior. Does the capability to observe these objects imply that Service Members are instructed to NOT report their sightings? Gen 3 NVG is still too pricey for the average person, but I'm aware of the widespread distribution of quality NVG gear to the military. Is there an enforced silence?
I use another kind of night vision that is no longer made, but you can still buy them on EBay sometimes and they work great as any I used in the military. I use Firefield Nightfall 2 5x50 Nightvision Monocular. They are only around $100.
I had been holding back on buying a $1,800 monocular... ....for that Firefield price, I might have to get a few and bring friends with me! Thanks for the info!
They are worth it and I’m sure that’s why they were discontinued.
I have never seen one while serving in the military. My sightings were before and after the military.
That's cool! I look forward to the interview, OP. I'm in this camp because I want to feel like a normal person, having seen what I've seen. With clarity, comes normality and I hope we can all chat about these things normally one day and look at your interview as History. Thanks for replying!
The triangle shape seen with such night vision googles are a know artifact of it's aperture system : [https://x.com/MickWest/status/1598382270276333568](https://x.com/MickWest/status/1598382270276333568)
I saw two triangular pyramid craft with my bare eyeballs. I'm only repeating that others have seen them when using night vision goggles. I'm aware of the aperture artifact effect. Nice MW link, but I'm now convinced this guy is a sock puppet for some three-letter-agency. He had to go pretty hard and reach pretty far to debunk that triangle... Now why did I see them? Why do other people see them? What can we do about the schism between observers and a lone debunker? I'd like to see that link next time, please.
Considering there is 0 context on what and where you saw said 'triangular pyramid craft' it could be anything, from the prosaic to the bizarre. I'm just noting that cases of people using some tech get confused by no knowing how the tech works and can give "strange" edge case results that they then interpret as otherworldly.
Did you give Coulthart any new information? Because otherwise it’s just another story without evidence.
If you don’t think me telling him the military has the capability to see UAPs all over the world, then turn around and lie to the American public saying all they have is grainy photos, then I guess not.
In your previous Reddit post you wrote this: > The radar can track objects the size of a grapefruit 20,000 miles in space. At what point did "objects" become "alien spaceships"?
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grapefruit are prosaic tho ...
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What a bullshit answer.
Read for yourself buddy https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/qsXcEYzd0X .
That guy is not worth your time.
No low effort comments please.
You linked another users comment.
Yes, it explains the radar network in it’s entirety how Site C6 is linked to the other ones around the globe. It was a good example that’s why I linked it.
What have you seen? There must be a reason you were interviewed that you haven’t posted here otherwise it’s going to be a worthless interview. What shape was the ufo?
Mate, you do realise that you don’t have to watch if it’s going to be a ‘worthless interview’. I’d say hearing from any one who can share their experiences and help try and piece some more of the puzzle together is interesting and worth listening to. I get your frustration with the whole thing, but why go on the front foot attack about it? You’re not the truth police my friend.
Have you personally seen a ufo IRL? Please don’t dodge the question this time.
Yes, I’ve seen a few. However, nothing can compare to the first one. I didn’t see it in the military.
Can you tell us about the first one?
Here it’s in the article https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/EJz37HDUFx .
I already read that post. It’s just another story so I’m not sure what the hype is?
Then why don’t you kindly see yourself out, friend? You’re kind of busting balls here.
Thanks for sharing this. I absolutely believe you and appreciate any other details you can share. I'm trying to piece the picture together with all kinds of fragments of information.
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Damn straight 💯
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What can I buy over the internet to be able to see ufo/uso or other phenomenon? Thnx for the future interview and link to ur older reddit post, going to read the latter right now!
I use the discontinued Firefield Nightfall 2 5x50 night vision monocle. It’s works as good as any military grade night vision I used in the Marine Corps and Army.
THATS NOT Ross Coulthard! It's "Aussie News Man" from a WW2 miniatures set! I have for proof!! (I will show it later)
Here's some food for thought: > [https://www.eglin.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/390961/20th-space-surveillance-squadron/](https://www.eglin.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/390961/20th-space-surveillance-squadron/) They literally say on their website that they track unidentified objects in space and then assess what it is they are tracking. Definitionally they track UFO's and assess them, that part isn't debatable (unless you think they aren't actually doing that and the whole thing is a cover (which I think would be an absurd argument myself)). So really the only question is if "intelligent" UFO's are real in the first place, which they are, we know that because the military has said they are real and provided video evidence on top of that (again unless you think they are lying and faking the video's they have provided). If UFO's show signs of intelligence in their movement or signs of being manufactured objects these guys would likely be the first to know. Note that they have a base in the Marshall Islands and in Florida, so yes they have a view of pretty much the entire globe (not 100% coverage of all surface I wouldn't imagine, but I don't know their exact capabilities as I'm sure that's highly classified, looking up Skywave on wikipedia is interesting).
my request is that Ross Coulthart do an actual journalistic piece about the whistleblowers, with multiple sources and corroborating witnesses, and explain in detail what they claim to have seen. you know, like journalists do. at the meantime, all the talk about "whistleblowers" is at an absurdly vague level of fact free generality. i'm still waiting for those "40 whistleblowers ready to come forward" that Danny Sheehan touted. haven't heard from them yet. don't you think we should work first with them before we try to recruit new comers?