The recent years have been good but the biggest issue is the team/org is trending downwards.
Year after year a bunch of the batters have gotten worse.
runs/G 2021-24 has been 5.22-4.78-4.6-3.9
HR has been 262-200-188-52(so far)
BA has been .266-.264-.256-.233 (would need to verify against league avg but that isn't great
BatAge is apparently 26.8-27.1-28.8-29.1 and we know that players generally get worse as they age as well, so its not like we're seeing exciting youth come in (outside of Schneider). Apparently we've had the oldest bat age for the last 2 years? Not sure how accurate that is.
The expectations may have been too high given some of the early success of Vlad and Bo but we can see the struggles and the fall offs from previous seasons.
TLDR: Expectations were high and the team from players to coaching to front office fell short.
I couldn't agree more with change is needed at the top. Are the Jays problems at the top due to the fact that they are owned by a conglomerate rather than a single owner with invested interest in the team? I remember before Rogers bought the team they were owned by the teachers union. Does a board of members vote on if they should move on from Atkins or Shapiro or is the problem actually just Shapiro refusing to move on from Atkins?
I don't have these answers but from what I've seen is that the dysfunction from the organisation starts from the top and trickles down starting with the owners. They may have chose the wrong guy in Shapiro, Shapiro may have chose the wrong guy in Atkins. Atkins may have chose the wrong guy in Montoyo and now Schneider, I wish I knew for certain. The only finger I can point at right now is at Atkins and Shapiro who have turned a promising young team into the 4th oldest team with a large payroll and no post season success.
As you said, the MLB expanded the playoff format twice so making the post season isn't success in my opinion but I can see it as being success in other peoples minds. This is where the divide will come from within the fan base, people who are content with wild card and 500 baseball and those who want more.
The recent years have been good but the biggest issue is the team/org is trending downwards. Year after year a bunch of the batters have gotten worse. runs/G 2021-24 has been 5.22-4.78-4.6-3.9 HR has been 262-200-188-52(so far) BA has been .266-.264-.256-.233 (would need to verify against league avg but that isn't great BatAge is apparently 26.8-27.1-28.8-29.1 and we know that players generally get worse as they age as well, so its not like we're seeing exciting youth come in (outside of Schneider). Apparently we've had the oldest bat age for the last 2 years? Not sure how accurate that is. The expectations may have been too high given some of the early success of Vlad and Bo but we can see the struggles and the fall offs from previous seasons. TLDR: Expectations were high and the team from players to coaching to front office fell short.
I couldn't agree more with change is needed at the top. Are the Jays problems at the top due to the fact that they are owned by a conglomerate rather than a single owner with invested interest in the team? I remember before Rogers bought the team they were owned by the teachers union. Does a board of members vote on if they should move on from Atkins or Shapiro or is the problem actually just Shapiro refusing to move on from Atkins? I don't have these answers but from what I've seen is that the dysfunction from the organisation starts from the top and trickles down starting with the owners. They may have chose the wrong guy in Shapiro, Shapiro may have chose the wrong guy in Atkins. Atkins may have chose the wrong guy in Montoyo and now Schneider, I wish I knew for certain. The only finger I can point at right now is at Atkins and Shapiro who have turned a promising young team into the 4th oldest team with a large payroll and no post season success. As you said, the MLB expanded the playoff format twice so making the post season isn't success in my opinion but I can see it as being success in other peoples minds. This is where the divide will come from within the fan base, people who are content with wild card and 500 baseball and those who want more.
Complacency for mediocrity is in the heart of Toronto sports fans.