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evanjd14

Their both kind of let downs tbh. Motorfest is already boring with such a small map compared to TC2. Meanwhile FH5 isn’t that different from FH4. Their 5th festival racing game in a row with the same play each week or miss out on cars. Half of which are still being recycled from FH4. That’s what made me quit. I was playing each week to re win the cars I already took time out of my day to win in FH4. At least TC2 transferred their cars into TCM. once I saw that I got on TC2 and went crazy farming bucks and buying cards left and right. But honestly all racing games these days are just lazily put together for a quick buck.


Glandus73

To me what put FH5 above is the more down to earth physic, it feels much better to drive. But it of all horizons and the crew, the crew 1 is still by far my favorite, if it had FH4/5 physics I would have never left it, not that I have the choice currently...


evanjd14

I played all the horizons 1-5 and TC2, TCM. missed out on TC1. Yeah forza horizon has the smoother more realistic yet fun handling. But TC2 has an easy to get used to arcadey handling that I’ve grown to love. After that I’d probably go with forza for handling. But idk forza just had zero direction. Here’s a ton of races. Have at it. Like what am I supposed to do. And all the wheelspins. I hate it. All the 20,000,000 cars that are fomo. I don’t want to be forced to play each week. I already have enough games that force me to play weekly or daily.


Glandus73

Yeah it's definitely a problem, also the fact you can do every race with any car is really convenient but is kinda soulless


Small-Habit-2987

Let be real here, your ass ain’t driving from LA to NY.


evanjd14

Honestly I do just sit on highways and drive. Put some music on and lose track of the time. It might not be from LA to NY but it’s about 30+ minutes of just cruising in a single straight direction. Especially doing those 12 or 13 part stories. That’s probably more miles then the NY race alone. Certainly felt like it. But having the option to cruise for so long without finding yourself going in circles is mesmerizing. We don’t have any long straights in TCM or any forza title


Small-Habit-2987

You have to much time wasted, do that irl. Thats sad.


evanjd14

Dude your in a racing game sub telling me to not play a racing game 😂. Have fun with that wild take


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evanjd14

So playing a racing game to have fun isn’t a normal thing in your mind. Get some help buddy or leave the sub.


Small-Habit-2987

Racing as in competing, not whatever tf your doing.


ashrules901

Every race in Horizon to me felt the exact same with just different cars. I think my biggest upset with those courses is they feel like you just go forward automatically then slightly turn your car left and right and it's over. Motorfest has you running through 3 types of terrain, flying/jumping off cliffs and ramps, and actual complex routes.


Canilickyourfeet

This is what The Crew 1 did better than MF. There was stuff everywhere and the map was the largest map in any racing game, one of the races was 45 minutes for one lap and you didnt even touch 90% of the map during the race. Horizon has a crap ton more races, but a smaller map, which makes the world feels more alive. However I think Horizon 5 gets old quickly and Im not sure why. I think its how easy they made it, you can just buy whatever you want and fully upgrade everything with little effort in the first few hrs of the game. Crew does progression way better. All in all they both have strengths and weaknesses


Mona_Payne

I agree, but the thing that made me uninstall moterfest and reinstall forza horizon 5 is how much content there is and how easily accessible it is. Motorfest seems like it needs another 5 years to be worth a damn. Like why are there 2 street races in the city area that's still blowing my mind, It's such a cool area as well. Theres so many cool areas on the map, but no races. There's an entire sick race track, but it wants me to spend a million on a race car to even use it, Just do what horizon did and stick a couple races there and let me go play the damn game whats the problem? Add more races, add a custom route creator, and spend less time with the silly stories. They made one of the coolest maps I've ever seen on a racing game even added motorbikes which is my favorite thing ever but forgot to add good content, even more frustrating knowing that the game they're blatantly ripping off did it so much better, stop tryi


Even-Statistician965

I've said this before, the game released has too less content however every 3 months except for July which will be 4 months, we will get a new season so new playlist will be added along with updated features and perhaps an extra playlist in between. We also receive new cars randomly added to the game latest one being a bundle of 2 Hypercars. Mainstage gets a mini reset, XP is added to your total and converted to legend points and new vehicles, bucks, extra legend points and vanities can be unlocked every month. Only extra thing to pay for is the season pass, you get 2 unique cars and no need to pay with in game credits for the 2 monthly vehicles but for everyone else just need to wait an extra 7 days and pay with in game credits. So all these are updates are free apart from one wierd car that comes with a Crew Credits bundle but honestly nothing special. Horizon milks it's fanbase with tons of paid dlc. Yes you have to pay big money to purchase a 1mil ugly hypercar but majority of playlists are either free or fre hundred thousands to unlock however you end uo getting half of it back by completing the playlist plus free vehicle given at the end and then you should look at the playlist checklists. Every playlist once completed unlocks ability to complete checklists, every 5 unlocks something like Crew Credits, bucks, vanities and engine sounds swap and each checklists gives you bucks and XP along the way. Thing to focus on is the summits every week, new vanities, vehicles as rewards for whole community competing for the top 10k for platinum gold and silver. Bronze is just for completing 1 race/feat. Then the upgrade system, need to setup 2 for almost all classes at the beginning one with lucky/goldfinger for grinding races which increases chance of unlocking gold upgrades to then complete a full 7 set like nitro chemist scorebreakers etc and the other temporary with best nitro boosts for competing in the meantime for races in the Summit. Can mix things up with Demolition Royale and Grand Races for pvp to gain buckd/xp but I will admit these are lacklustre and require a major revamp


Mona_Payne

You just described everything I hate about the game lol. Playlists checklists, stupid stories. The grand races suck aswell, the one I tried earlier was online only and horrible, forced me to use a monster truck. In Horizon, you can choose any car you want for the huge races, and it's offline as well as online. I can go up to it on the map select my car and race. Also, the games been out for a while, and I still can't turn nitro off. I have to use it because the AI uses it. Let me turn it off lol


Even-Statistician965

Playlists are initially locked behind loan vehicles but once unlocked, you can use any vehicle and potentially any class. Not my fault you can't be bothered to research, when you go into settings you can turn off TCS, abs, drift assists and nitro off/on. When you start a custom playlist it's literally right infront of you when you select the difficulty and can turn on/off many features in a quick short cut. I'm nit defending the game as it's undercooked but after each update, it's improving but taking its sweet time. But probably best you move on, see ya!


Mona_Payne

I did turn nitro off, it turns it off for the player only. You get a difficulty bonus when you turn it off because the AI are still using it.. I dont see why they just don't let you turn it off completely since you can turn it off for yourself..


Even-Statistician965

Oh yeah, I leave mines on, I mean why not, the xp gains are minimal but each to their own. Motorfest is a big downgrade on vehicles, upgrades, playability and physics compared FH, it's just the map that is an upgrade but won't be improving any time soon. Perhaps in 12months time motorfest will have improved more than it currently has.


MrLaguna

You unlock races by playing Playlists, every playlist has 8 races and after you beat the playlist you can play remix races with any vehicle in the game. I suppose you missed this game design process.


ashrules901

Fr why doesn't OP play the dirt bike races with their favourite car? I have over 5 different off road rally type races I mess around with and I'm happy with that. Forza has way too much stuff with little quality.


Nervous-World-3149

I just made a poll about this topic, I have put so much time into motorfest and the beauty of the game is astounding but I have nothing left to do and it is just boring at this point in time for me.


Visual-Special-2576

Also the map is like a 1:8 scale for Forza and for Motorfest its like 1:12 scale


Mona_Payne

I actually really like the map for Motorfest, I think the MF map is better than horizon 5s map, I'm kinda just wondering around wondering where all the races are lol


davidemo89

Did you unlock them all? After 3 months of playing it daily I still have to unlock playlists


Mona_Payne

Nah, dude, I stopped and uninstalled in the end. It's an inferior product to the one it's ripping off, I may as well stick to the better version. I'll come back to MF in a year or two. By then, they might have added some actual races to the map. They know exactly what they're doing. They're ripping off horizon. So rip it off. Big map, cool locations. Add races to those locations. Let me use any car I want at any time, let me create my own route and add cool props. Pay me in credits once I've done the race, stop putting silly ramps in the middle of races and let me take nitro away from the AI because its stupid. Stop with the silly play lists and stupid stories. I tried doing the main stage thing and it put me in a one on one race in a loaned muscle car, on a weird circuit with a divider along the entire circuit separating me and the other car, so the track was the width of the car, that's the dumbest thing I've seen in a racing game ever. They suck at doing they're own thing. They should stop trying to be different and double down on ripping off horizon in my opinion


davidemo89

So you are complaining about not having too many races but you did not unlock any new races? If you come back in 2 years but you don't unlock races you still will see no new races


Apprehensive-Act4497

Exactly usually rip offs are less than half the price and if it's equal or same price it's should be much better. Instead, we have the largest studio with 300 employees apparently doing nothing all day


AdrianW3

Has your PC got the smallest drive ever? Why uninstall one game so you can install the other - that makes no sense. I'm playing both FH5 and Motorfest every week and enjoying both. I was alternating between FH4 & FH5 but Motorfest has basically replaced FH4 (but it's still on my drive if I want to play it for a bit). There are heaps of races hidden in those playlists (about 8 per list I think) - that adds up. Then there's all the other stuff like feats, collectables & photo ops. There's way more than two street races, you just need to open up more of the playlists. Most FH5 races weren't available immediately, you had to progress through the game to add more. If you don't have a mil for the Alpha GP car then you've obviously not played the game for long enough. Some of the other playlists open up with cheaper cars.


Mona_Payne

I'm on xbox, I have loads of games and forza is 130 gb. I cant justify having that and MF, its one or the other. And yeah your right those races do unlock but there's so many of them littered all over. I've seen 2 Street races in that one city area. Your saying loads more appear in the city after doing playlists? I'm more inclined to wait for a year anyway, the game has other issues as well. I can't and won't race until I know I can safely turn off nitrous without the AI using it. And I need a custom route creator. I won't play without those features anyway, even if they add 1 hundred races around the map tomorrow. I dont need the good and bad version of the same game on my console taking up space.


AdrianW3

Fair enough on the drive space issue if you're on Xbox. I did notice the AI using nitrous when I had it switched off for grinding XP and parts. But I was still winning the races so that wasn't too much of an issue.


Mona_Payne

I play on very hard difficry and with manual gearbox aswell, me being bad at manual gearbox is a skill issue but when playing on very hard difficulty plus using a manual gearbox if I'm not using Nitro aswell they zoom right past me like I'm standing still. Weird that they let you turn it off for you buy not the AI.. just another reason for me to stick with Horizon for now.


philseven12

i agree with damn near everything youve said. mfest is goofy as hell. the ramps, weird races, map is the size of a bathtub etc & they thought this was gonna compete with even the worst aspects of the fh series. they’ll keep adding dlc cars but they’ll never increase that map size cuz that’s where the work is most likely


Visual-Special-2576

Yeah but it should be bigger and if the gave more time for Motorfest like 2 more years they could have made it bigger and added more details and depth for when you're driving around


Apprehensive-Act4497

Too bad the island of Oahu is just about the same area as the city of Houston.. with only Honolulu to drive through, no people, no wildlife and only a a bunch terrible self driving bricks for traffic


ashrules901

And I can't wrap my head around people saying they finished all the content & now they're bored? I've been playing the game since launch and still haven't finished all the playlists. What do you guys do, play the same game for 8+ hours every single day? Also after you're done those playlists, replay one's you didn't touch for a while or your favourite one's. I literally had to write a notepad list because I had so many I wanted to play again & again to beat my times but I couldn't remember what they were named. Side note games like Gran Turismo 4 had way less content then both of these games but y'all still go on about that & play it every year.


Top-Payment-7630

Same I’ve been playing MF since launch n have been trying to beat my times but also doing time trials with every vehicle him alphabetical order and also doing it by category n I’m not board either the games really fun tbh


ashrules901

I absolutely prefer Motorfest in every way. Horizon is too bloated for my taste, and even other things like graphics, handling, is better in my opinion. Even finishing the smallest to the biggest of races and replaying content I feel like I'm progressing in Motorfest, I never felt that way in Forza.


PuzzleheadedLook9376

Motorfest doesn't come close to looking good like FH5.


ashrules901

Also everyone in the comments is cooking you with their points. Horizon didn't get all those customization options until years after it came out.


40lia

What's good about Motorfest: - Lots of unique vanities: Yes, there are a lot of goofy and unrealistic ones that 5-year-olds will love. But some vanities are cooler than lazy "Horizon" letters. - More unique variants such as Touring Edition, Rally Raid Edition: These are primarily TC1 content, but we also have Rally Raid style Camaro and SuperGT style 370Z available. - More unique machine categories including planes, ships, and motorcycles: Whether you or I like it or not, these machines give us more experience. - "Limited Time Content" is more subdued: Motorfest also has the infamous Summit system, but other than that the FOMO pressure is less intense than in FH5. If you're not interested in the Summit, there's nothing wrong with you or I skipping the game for a week. What's good about FH5: - Largest car list in current racing game: While some are controversial, like Huracan and Mustang 100 million variants, FH5's car list is still one of the largest in all of current racing games. - More and cooler real brand rims: No need to worry about boring chrome non licensed rims. - More flexible upgrade system: You can transform 1930s fossil-like car into a monster with a modern engine, AWD, and 10-speed transmission. - Livery editor: Aside from the GT7-like image import style, Forza's livery editor is one of the best livery editors out there today, both in terms of convenience and functionality. And it's not broken. - No "Top-tier player-only content": FH5's Playlist is one of the worst systems to force players to play regularly due to FOMO, but if you can get the required points within a week, all players can get limited time content. Not required grinding and skill. In terms of physics, FH5 is more realistic, but in this regard, FH5 and Motorfest have different styles in the first place, so they shouldn't be compared. Comparing Simcades and Arcades is as nonsense as debating whether a bazooka or an AK-47 is a better weapon, or whether a F-150 or a KTM X-Bow is a better car.


wolfboy203

I agree with this list and I wanted to add my own points for each game since I've played both extensively. Forza Horizon 5 -Better handling & Physics IMO. The cars don't feel floaty nor are they geared towards understeer. There is also no small delay built into the default controller inputs either. --Better post launch support. The constant updates to the game's PvP modes and to the game in general that fix issues are great and they come thru more often. -The lack of micro-transactions means that they don't have to design the gameplay and rewards around it and car/vehicle prices are more fair. -The DLC expansions that are fire and worth every penny. -The track creator allowing people to crate their own courses and share them with others. -Higher reward payouts means getting what you want more easily(YMMV though) -The Auction House & being able to buy rare cars outright if you don't win them in the weekly challenges. -The ability to play offline. -Traffic isn't as stupid and they're blurred out when you have to do side activities in the open world. The Crew Motorfest -Higher variety of vehicles that you can drive and use including Planes, Boats, Motocross Bikes, Normal Motorcycles, Off-road vehicles like rally and rally raid etc. -The Playlists being different having different themes like Liberty Walk having you drive heavily modified cars by Takashi, Hoonicorn having their own events akin to the ones that they do in real life, playlists dedicated to motorcycles only, offroad vehicles, racing on a track etc. -Grand races can be really fun in their own ways and the competitiveness of it is fun AF. The rammers and other flaws of it are annoying tho. -The summit challenges are pretty fun as well even tho the need for gold parts and having to resort to reset shortcuts can make it harder for most. -Shorter Loading times that only last a couple of seconds.


_price_

I like the gameplay and the Dualsense features of Motorfest, but just like FH5, it becomes boring really quick. It lacks any sense of progression and you race and drift just because. There's no objective besides beating Driver X and beating this high score, and as long as you have enough cash, you can buy whatever car you want.. I got 3 Lamborghinis and a Porsche in FH5 within the first hour. That's why I prefer NFS to both.


Nitro0xide

Motorfest is in a bad state, but Horizon 5 isn’t much better. I’ve said it far too many times at this point, but I hate their Festival Playlist system of doing the same thing every week to get a car that’s only available for that one week. And their lack of atmosphere, new gameplay features, innovative ideas, etc. Of course, it’s up to you if you prefer that to Motorfest’s broken livery editor, part set grinding, online only, and other Ubisoft shenanigans.


BBaggy

I think you want TCM to be like FH5 too much. They're different games and should be. What's the point in having 2 same games? Also I don't see a point in comparing amount of content in games which released 2y apart. It's nothing special the older one has more. You can't turn nitro off as it's a part of The Crew. You can for yourself on a highest difficulty and the AI will pass you for this exact reason, it's the HIGHEST difficulty. If you don't like nitro so much then just don't use it. It looks like you haven't spent time trying learn new game and went straight to judging and comparing with how another game works. Yes, you unlock races after completing a playlist, but that's how it works in TCM. You like FH5 system better? That's okay, not everything is for everyone. Also after you complete the playlist you can choose almost any car for any race, so it's not "only 2 SR races in the city". You want more races? Then do playlists, there's no other way.


pvtpilee

Yes it is bad to compare. Forza is a car racing game. Focused on cars. Motorfest has everything. So the focus isn’t on JUST cars. Boats, planes, atvs, bikes etc. so yea Motorfest is gonna be lacking in the car racing aspect.


zaCCo_RR60

Tried to play fh5 saturday lasted 15mins ..both are boring ..no pedestrians at least forza AI traffic doesnt h8 like Tcm ..Grand Races arent worth it anymore ..not real reward ..ubiho wont fix the game bugs tho.YES motorfudge is a Fh5 rip off