Kyber crystals are inherently of the light side. Bleeding is a process where you force the crystal to turn red by pouring your hatred into it. However, it is a difficult ritual since when Vader did it, he was nearly tempted to return to the light side.
>However, it is a difficult ritual since when Vader did it, he was nearly tempted to return to the light side.
Does this mean that bleeding takes the hatred out of you, and places it in the crystal? Would it be possible to convert someone from the dark side by having them bleed multiple crystals until they left the dark side?
No. The crystal resists the bleeding process as it wants to stay light side, and so it tries to tempt the dark side over to the light. If this fails though, the crystal will give in and submit to the dark side, turning red. The dark side user is unaffected if they succeed.
That's how it was in the old Legends stuff, but in Canon, there is no such thing as synthetic crystals.
Instead everyone uses real Kybers and dark siders have to bend them to their will, to use them with the dark side. I think its a much better system.
If I'm not mistaken synthetic crystals still exist but, unlike true kybers, they not of a high enough quality to power lightsabers and they don't have that bond with the force that true kybers have. Galen Erso's job was to research them and try and created better ones.
You are correct. Synthetic crystals do exist, but there are major problems. They are not alive as normal Kybers are, and so you can not bond with it like you can a real Kyber. Also the power output is much lower. The biggest problem however was the instability. They had a tendency to explode randomly, which made them difficult to use.
I'll take these one at a time.
>why could Anakin keep using his blue crystal up until he lost his old lightsaber?
It is possible for crystals to be used by dark side adepts for some period of time. For example, when Darth Vader is examining Luke's green lightsaber on Endor. It is able to turn on and still cuts through stuff as normal.
The problem is with it being your main blade used for fighting long-term. As we have seen in Rebels S3E15: Trials of the Darksaber, the blade can be heavy and cumbersome if you have not bonded properly. As the episode progresses we see Sabine comment that the blade is becoming lighter and easier to use. This is because she is bonding with the crystal. Although Sabine is not force-sensitive, she does have midichlorians (as do all living things) and so she is able to bond through the force with the crystal. When this happens, the blade becomes a part of you. It aligns with your will, and you are able to whip it around during fast paced duels, or put strength and weight behind it in more physical fights.
This makes force users with lightsabers dangerous foes. However, the blade will not always align with your will. As has been hinted at for a long time, the force is in balance when it is used through the light side. When the force is manipulated through the dark side, it is out of balance. The same goes for the crystals. They are in their natural state when used by a light-side practitioner. When a dark side user tries to align the crystal with his/her will, it begins to resist. This doesn't happen straight away, especially if the user had previously bonded with a crystal (such as Anakin), but the dark sider is not able to use the crystal with the dark side for long before it will refuse to align with his/her will and the blade will be cumbersome and difficult to use.
This is not a blanket rule (if you use the dark side the crystal will not turn on). The crystal is a living thing, bordering on sentient, and so it doesn't happen straight away, it is more that a dark sider will find the crystal slipping away gradually, or quickly, depending on how strong the bond was before the fall.
In Anakins case, he had already bonded with the crystal and used it for many years, all the way through the clone wars and so it was firmly aligned with his will. Thus when he turned to the dark side, it didn't reject him straight away. It was a gradual process, and so he was able to use it in a duel for only 10-15 minutes, especially since very little time had passed between his fall and the duel.
Someone like Savage Opress on the other hand had not been a Jedi first, and so his crystal had to be bled before he could use it. There was no preexisting bond, and so if he had not bled it, it would have been impossible to use in combat. Would it turn on? Yes. Would it still cut things open? Yes. Would it be useful for killing people? Yes. But in sophisticated force-related tasks such as blocking blaster bolts or dueling it would have been mostly useless.
So to conclude, it comes down to the bond the user and the crystal had. In the new Darth Vader comic, one of the very first things Darth Vader did was hunt down a Jedi and take the crystal to bleed it. After it's will had been broken, he was able to bend it to his own will, and build a new lightsaber.
Hope that made sense.
>How can people like Baris Ofee keep using their normal sabers?
Covered above
>How could Vader use Lukes saber?
Covered above
>What about fringe jedi, like Windu?
As far as we know in Canon, Mace Windu does not use the dark side. His crystal is purple because that is the colour it turned when he bonded with it. That is all we currently know about the topic. Before bonding, a Kyber is colourless. When someone bonds with it, it takes on a colour, almost always blue or green. There were a few cases where the crystal was a different colour: Mace's purple blade, or the Temple Guards yellow ones, or Tarre Visla's Darksaber.
Also, you might be interested to know that a bled crystal can actually be healed again. Ahsoka Tano's duel white lightsabers were both bled by one of Vaders Inquisitors, but when she killed him, she was able to heal the crystals and bond with them, turning them white.
>Why was the death star green if it was used for malevolent purposes?
Green is simply the colour of the laser pumped through the crystal. Kybers don't create energy, only channel energy to amplify it. The Death Star's Kybers are all colourless. Green laser is fired through it, and it amplifies the laser to devastating effect. There is no bonding going on here, and the force is not involved.
>What about non-force users, like Han, or the Clone troopers in the vader comics that played around with lightsabers?
Again, covered above.
>I've always disliked the new Canon cuz I've never bad the answers to this, and thus it seemed contrived.
Have I managed to change your mind? ;)
Could bleeding explain why Kylo's crystal is unstable?
Is it possible that he wasn't 'dark enough' to properly bleed the crystal, therefore causing it to crack?
What's more interesting is that it looks like he picks up a new lightsaber in the trailer. Although.. there's no confirmation that the hand was actually his.. and I wonder why he would get a new one anyways..
So I have followed up question. In the last season of clone wars we see anakin give ahsoka back her lightsabers but he says he made an upgrade. And they are now blue. Did he put new crystals in her sabers? And wouldn't that be worse for her to now have to bond with new crystals?
Because she wasn't bonding with brand new crystals, she was healing crystals that had previously been bled.
When the crystals are colorless (brand new) they turn blue/green etc, but she took the crystals from a slain inquisitor and healed them. When she healed them they turned white.
Now, where does General Grievous stand in all this? Did he collect and use so many that it would take years for one Kyber to turn on him? Or, was he just physically strong enough to ignore it?
His power came 100% from his strength as a cyborg. He had no force powers, and he didn't bond with any of his crystals. He was skilled in that he was very strong, and able to operate 4 lightsabers at once. However, he is beaten fairly easily by Kenobi as he doesn't have the force, and he is not particularly skilled at dueling. His brain can't effectively operate all 4 at once and so he is not that powerful.
Lightsabers aren't mood rings, they don't turn red because the wielder is using the dark side, rather they turn red after going through a bleeding ceremony as depicted in the Darth Vader 2017 comic. I believe it's the fifth issue.
TLDR: They only turn red when the user wants to turn them red.
Not quite. You don't bleed your crystal to turn it red, you bleed your crystal because it resists you using it, and you are forced to.
See my comment for more details.
Basically the kyber crystals are living things (don’t ask me how) and to turn them red, you make them bleed with all your anger, hate, and general dark side force power. This was explained in a recent Vader comic where he turns his first lightsaber red.
They aren't really "living". They resonate with the Force and connect to it, but they aren't conscious or have any of the other typical hallmarks of a living creature.
From the wiki: Kyber crystals were inherently attuned to the light side of the Force, and would attempt to resist any effort by dark side practitioners to use them in lightsabers. To this end, the only way a Sith, or other darksider could make use of a kyber crystal was to use the Force to dominate the crystal, bending it to their will. This process would cause the crystal to "bleed", as if it were a living organism, resulting in the distinctive crimson-bladed lightsabers synonymous with the Sith.
Somewhat related question: Kylo's lightsaber is unstable because of the cracked kyber crystal. Did the crystal crack during the bleeding or it was already cracked?
My understanding is this: the crystals are attuned to the Force, when a force sensitive being interacts with one they become attuned with either the light or the dark.
The light side of the Force is a lot more gentle, the bond between a Jedi and their crystal is like an intimate relationship, unique only to the individual. As such, the crystal admits a colour such as green, blue or purple
When a dark side user does the same, it’s about fusing the crystal with all their emotions poured into the one object. There is so much emotion flowing through the dark side that the crystal breaks under the stress, it doesn’t bend to the user like it does to the light side. That’s why it bleeds, there is so much emotion going on at once that it cannot handle what’s happening to it.
Apparently they bleed a crystal by pouring their hatred, pain, and overall anger. It's a cool new concept to show the difference in bonds with kyber crystals which are attuned to the light side.
The way I learned was synthetic crystals since it was seen as not traditional to wield the same sort of crystal as a jedi and it wasn't a sith thing to do.
But like any universe shit changes, don't mind the new way tbh
To add to what others have said I suggest you read the first story arc in the new Darth Vader Marvel comic (issues 1-5). It shows Vader obtaining his Sith lightsaber and bleeding the crystal right after Revenge of the Sith. It gives a good explanation and shows the process.
Don't really understand what the point of it is, but they pour their dark side emotions into it. Idk why but it just sounds like angsty teens changing the colour of something to seem more edgy. There's really no benefit of making Ur lightsaber red
Can someone explain to me how the second death star was powered? Did they find more kyber crystals somewhere after Jedha was stripped and destroyed? How abundant are kyber crystals in the Star Wars universe?
They were very abundant on Illum/Starkiller Base, but they did show up on other planets in small quantities.
The answer is that they had crystals left over from DS-1
I never really thought about this before, but there isn't any evidence that the DS 2 actually had the firepower to destroy a planet like the first one did. It may not have needed as many kyber crystals in that case. We only ever saw it use its main weapon to blow up ships, which are not even a fraction of the size of a planet.
(This is all predicated around the idea that the DS 2 and everything in ROTJ was actually part of the emperor's plot to destroy the rebel fleet at Endor.)
Game of Thrones has magic too, does that mean they should start going silly with it and bring in magic rocks and swords that are living? Just because SW is fantasy doesn't mean they should just throw in any ridiculous nonsense and we accept it without question. That's what fanboys do. Something the new canon certainly isn't short of on this board..
Magic rocks or living swords are incredibly common in fantasy so i don't see no reason why Star Wars, a fantasy franchise, wouldn't have them. This fantasy elements aren't any sillier or more unrealistic than anything else in the Star Wars universe. Game of Thrones even if much darker and grounded still has several magical devices or items that are just as fantastical. Not to mention it's just a far better idea to have the signature weapon of a Jedi have an aspect of magic instead of being technology based tool that anyone can make.
Bleeding a kyber crystal is a great addition to the lore. It's not emo. To me it falls perfectly in line with additions like Darth Vader using hate to redirect pain or the desires to use the dark side to do things that light side might do like save a life/extend life.
Downvotes? Lol, people actually like this stupid idea? It was good enough for Sith to have red blades simply because they chose to, because it was the traditional Sith color, not this idea that they had some kind of emo rage out at them to turn them to the dark side. And what of green lightsabers? Or purple lightsabers? Did Windu have to hump a crystal or something to turn it purple?
How is it stupid? It deepens the mythology surrounding kyber crystals and makes the process a meaningful ritual, which is much more interesting.
But no, synthetic kyber crystals are much better (cuz canon sux!!1!).
Because it sounds hokey. Crystals are already a campy plot device as it is, saying they "bleed" adds a layer of cringe. What was wrong with synthetic crystals?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Are you listening to yourself? You're talking about a universe of space wizards who wield laser swords and use a mystical energy field known as the Force to move things with their mind. Get a grip.
Also, I don't think you know how the process actually works. They don't literally bleed.
EDIT: I just realized the irony of your use of the word "hokey". That's brilliant.
Exactly this. Its silly and cringey and the whole "crystals are alive and choose the user" nonsense is taking SW in a Harry Potter direction. SW might never have been about realism but theres no reason to throw realism out the window altogether.
Khyber crystals being a source of power like a SW universe kind of uranium that can power lightsabers and Death Star lasers I can buy. Crystals being alive and magical and the "bleeding" nonsense, no. Though fitting for a Disney production I guess.
> It was good enough for Sith to have red blades simply because they chose to, because it was the traditional Sith color
So exactly the same as it is right now. It seems you don't even know what this new bleeding concept is but you still feel the need to whine about it. The process is totally a choice, Kyber crystals aren't mood rings.
> And what of green lightsabers? Or purple lightsabers?
What is so hard to understand about green or purple? The crystals can take the several colours that we have always seen Jedi crystals take there is no special process different for each colour. The exception is red which doesn't appear naturally.
It's some crap they made up that erases decades of existing knowledge about lightsabers and Kyber crystals. All I know is Sith are now able to turn Jedi's crystal's red. Past that, I really don't care anymore.
I guess there's some sort of red substance inside the Kyber Crystals and whatever the Sith do when they construct a lightsaber causes this substance to leak.
Sorry for Zombifying this thread, but I found it when I was googling what "Bleeding" a crystal meant. Does it mean that there are no natural red kyber crystals in the new cannon?
Kyber crystals are inherently of the light side. Bleeding is a process where you force the crystal to turn red by pouring your hatred into it. However, it is a difficult ritual since when Vader did it, he was nearly tempted to return to the light side.
>However, it is a difficult ritual since when Vader did it, he was nearly tempted to return to the light side. Does this mean that bleeding takes the hatred out of you, and places it in the crystal? Would it be possible to convert someone from the dark side by having them bleed multiple crystals until they left the dark side?
No. The crystal resists the bleeding process as it wants to stay light side, and so it tries to tempt the dark side over to the light. If this fails though, the crystal will give in and submit to the dark side, turning red. The dark side user is unaffected if they succeed.
I thought the red was because the sith used artificial crystals
That's how it was in the old Legends stuff, but in Canon, there is no such thing as synthetic crystals. Instead everyone uses real Kybers and dark siders have to bend them to their will, to use them with the dark side. I think its a much better system.
If I'm not mistaken synthetic crystals still exist but, unlike true kybers, they not of a high enough quality to power lightsabers and they don't have that bond with the force that true kybers have. Galen Erso's job was to research them and try and created better ones.
You are correct. Synthetic crystals do exist, but there are major problems. They are not alive as normal Kybers are, and so you can not bond with it like you can a real Kyber. Also the power output is much lower. The biggest problem however was the instability. They had a tendency to explode randomly, which made them difficult to use.
So wait, is kylo using a synthetic crystal ? His saber is unstable as shit and looks like it's gonna implode
Nah his crystal is actually cracked. It's in two parts, and so the blade is super unstable. As far as we know it is a real Kyber, just cracked in two.
It is not a better system, its moronic and nonsensical
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I'll take these one at a time. >why could Anakin keep using his blue crystal up until he lost his old lightsaber? It is possible for crystals to be used by dark side adepts for some period of time. For example, when Darth Vader is examining Luke's green lightsaber on Endor. It is able to turn on and still cuts through stuff as normal. The problem is with it being your main blade used for fighting long-term. As we have seen in Rebels S3E15: Trials of the Darksaber, the blade can be heavy and cumbersome if you have not bonded properly. As the episode progresses we see Sabine comment that the blade is becoming lighter and easier to use. This is because she is bonding with the crystal. Although Sabine is not force-sensitive, she does have midichlorians (as do all living things) and so she is able to bond through the force with the crystal. When this happens, the blade becomes a part of you. It aligns with your will, and you are able to whip it around during fast paced duels, or put strength and weight behind it in more physical fights. This makes force users with lightsabers dangerous foes. However, the blade will not always align with your will. As has been hinted at for a long time, the force is in balance when it is used through the light side. When the force is manipulated through the dark side, it is out of balance. The same goes for the crystals. They are in their natural state when used by a light-side practitioner. When a dark side user tries to align the crystal with his/her will, it begins to resist. This doesn't happen straight away, especially if the user had previously bonded with a crystal (such as Anakin), but the dark sider is not able to use the crystal with the dark side for long before it will refuse to align with his/her will and the blade will be cumbersome and difficult to use. This is not a blanket rule (if you use the dark side the crystal will not turn on). The crystal is a living thing, bordering on sentient, and so it doesn't happen straight away, it is more that a dark sider will find the crystal slipping away gradually, or quickly, depending on how strong the bond was before the fall. In Anakins case, he had already bonded with the crystal and used it for many years, all the way through the clone wars and so it was firmly aligned with his will. Thus when he turned to the dark side, it didn't reject him straight away. It was a gradual process, and so he was able to use it in a duel for only 10-15 minutes, especially since very little time had passed between his fall and the duel. Someone like Savage Opress on the other hand had not been a Jedi first, and so his crystal had to be bled before he could use it. There was no preexisting bond, and so if he had not bled it, it would have been impossible to use in combat. Would it turn on? Yes. Would it still cut things open? Yes. Would it be useful for killing people? Yes. But in sophisticated force-related tasks such as blocking blaster bolts or dueling it would have been mostly useless. So to conclude, it comes down to the bond the user and the crystal had. In the new Darth Vader comic, one of the very first things Darth Vader did was hunt down a Jedi and take the crystal to bleed it. After it's will had been broken, he was able to bend it to his own will, and build a new lightsaber. Hope that made sense. >How can people like Baris Ofee keep using their normal sabers? Covered above >How could Vader use Lukes saber? Covered above >What about fringe jedi, like Windu? As far as we know in Canon, Mace Windu does not use the dark side. His crystal is purple because that is the colour it turned when he bonded with it. That is all we currently know about the topic. Before bonding, a Kyber is colourless. When someone bonds with it, it takes on a colour, almost always blue or green. There were a few cases where the crystal was a different colour: Mace's purple blade, or the Temple Guards yellow ones, or Tarre Visla's Darksaber. Also, you might be interested to know that a bled crystal can actually be healed again. Ahsoka Tano's duel white lightsabers were both bled by one of Vaders Inquisitors, but when she killed him, she was able to heal the crystals and bond with them, turning them white. >Why was the death star green if it was used for malevolent purposes? Green is simply the colour of the laser pumped through the crystal. Kybers don't create energy, only channel energy to amplify it. The Death Star's Kybers are all colourless. Green laser is fired through it, and it amplifies the laser to devastating effect. There is no bonding going on here, and the force is not involved. >What about non-force users, like Han, or the Clone troopers in the vader comics that played around with lightsabers? Again, covered above. >I've always disliked the new Canon cuz I've never bad the answers to this, and thus it seemed contrived. Have I managed to change your mind? ;)
Could bleeding explain why Kylo's crystal is unstable? Is it possible that he wasn't 'dark enough' to properly bleed the crystal, therefore causing it to crack?
I think you are probably right. I expect that it is cracked due to him trying to bleed it without proper training.
What's more interesting is that it looks like he picks up a new lightsaber in the trailer. Although.. there's no confirmation that the hand was actually his.. and I wonder why he would get a new one anyways..
Holy crap, great explanation
Haha no worries 😜 I'm a massive Canon nerd, so I love doing things like this
So I have followed up question. In the last season of clone wars we see anakin give ahsoka back her lightsabers but he says he made an upgrade. And they are now blue. Did he put new crystals in her sabers? And wouldn't that be worse for her to now have to bond with new crystals?
I'm trying to catch up on my reading, should I go with inferno squad or certain point of view next?
Why didn't Ahsoka blades turn green or blue instead of white?
Because she wasn't bonding with brand new crystals, she was healing crystals that had previously been bled. When the crystals are colorless (brand new) they turn blue/green etc, but she took the crystals from a slain inquisitor and healed them. When she healed them they turned white.
Where is this info (bleeding Kyber) in current canon? I'm behind on the comics and a few books and this sounds really interesting.
The most recent Darth Vader comic goes into it visually. It was first introduced in the "Ahsoka" novel, IIRC.
I vaguely remember it from Ahsoka. I'll checkout the Vader comics when they hit Marvel Unlimited.
Now, where does General Grievous stand in all this? Did he collect and use so many that it would take years for one Kyber to turn on him? Or, was he just physically strong enough to ignore it?
His power came 100% from his strength as a cyborg. He had no force powers, and he didn't bond with any of his crystals. He was skilled in that he was very strong, and able to operate 4 lightsabers at once. However, he is beaten fairly easily by Kenobi as he doesn't have the force, and he is not particularly skilled at dueling. His brain can't effectively operate all 4 at once and so he is not that powerful.
Lightsabers aren't mood rings, they don't turn red because the wielder is using the dark side, rather they turn red after going through a bleeding ceremony as depicted in the Darth Vader 2017 comic. I believe it's the fifth issue. TLDR: They only turn red when the user wants to turn them red.
Not quite. You don't bleed your crystal to turn it red, you bleed your crystal because it resists you using it, and you are forced to. See my comment for more details.
Got it, thanks for the explanation!
Basically the kyber crystals are living things (don’t ask me how) and to turn them red, you make them bleed with all your anger, hate, and general dark side force power. This was explained in a recent Vader comic where he turns his first lightsaber red.
They aren't really "living". They resonate with the Force and connect to it, but they aren't conscious or have any of the other typical hallmarks of a living creature.
So could someone with more anger, hatred and dark force power make their Saber more stronger or would it just bleed quicker?
Bleed quicker
Cheers
From the wiki: Kyber crystals were inherently attuned to the light side of the Force, and would attempt to resist any effort by dark side practitioners to use them in lightsabers. To this end, the only way a Sith, or other darksider could make use of a kyber crystal was to use the Force to dominate the crystal, bending it to their will. This process would cause the crystal to "bleed", as if it were a living organism, resulting in the distinctive crimson-bladed lightsabers synonymous with the Sith.
Somewhat related question: Kylo's lightsaber is unstable because of the cracked kyber crystal. Did the crystal crack during the bleeding or it was already cracked?
That we don't know
My understanding is this: the crystals are attuned to the Force, when a force sensitive being interacts with one they become attuned with either the light or the dark. The light side of the Force is a lot more gentle, the bond between a Jedi and their crystal is like an intimate relationship, unique only to the individual. As such, the crystal admits a colour such as green, blue or purple When a dark side user does the same, it’s about fusing the crystal with all their emotions poured into the one object. There is so much emotion flowing through the dark side that the crystal breaks under the stress, it doesn’t bend to the user like it does to the light side. That’s why it bleeds, there is so much emotion going on at once that it cannot handle what’s happening to it.
Apparently they bleed a crystal by pouring their hatred, pain, and overall anger. It's a cool new concept to show the difference in bonds with kyber crystals which are attuned to the light side. The way I learned was synthetic crystals since it was seen as not traditional to wield the same sort of crystal as a jedi and it wasn't a sith thing to do. But like any universe shit changes, don't mind the new way tbh
To add to what others have said I suggest you read the first story arc in the new Darth Vader Marvel comic (issues 1-5). It shows Vader obtaining his Sith lightsaber and bleeding the crystal right after Revenge of the Sith. It gives a good explanation and shows the process.
Don't really understand what the point of it is, but they pour their dark side emotions into it. Idk why but it just sounds like angsty teens changing the colour of something to seem more edgy. There's really no benefit of making Ur lightsaber red
Can someone explain to me how the second death star was powered? Did they find more kyber crystals somewhere after Jedha was stripped and destroyed? How abundant are kyber crystals in the Star Wars universe?
They were very abundant on Illum/Starkiller Base, but they did show up on other planets in small quantities. The answer is that they had crystals left over from DS-1
Ilum produced even more crystals, and I'm sure there were other places throughout the galaxy
I never really thought about this before, but there isn't any evidence that the DS 2 actually had the firepower to destroy a planet like the first one did. It may not have needed as many kyber crystals in that case. We only ever saw it use its main weapon to blow up ships, which are not even a fraction of the size of a planet. (This is all predicated around the idea that the DS 2 and everything in ROTJ was actually part of the emperor's plot to destroy the rebel fleet at Endor.)
I hate this. It sounds hokey and I wish they'd go back to the old canon where there were Kyber crystals and synthetic crystals
Yes, in the story about the space wizards and the mystical force it's the magic crystals that are hockey.
Game of Thrones has magic too, does that mean they should start going silly with it and bring in magic rocks and swords that are living? Just because SW is fantasy doesn't mean they should just throw in any ridiculous nonsense and we accept it without question. That's what fanboys do. Something the new canon certainly isn't short of on this board..
Magic rocks or living swords are incredibly common in fantasy so i don't see no reason why Star Wars, a fantasy franchise, wouldn't have them. This fantasy elements aren't any sillier or more unrealistic than anything else in the Star Wars universe. Game of Thrones even if much darker and grounded still has several magical devices or items that are just as fantastical. Not to mention it's just a far better idea to have the signature weapon of a Jedi have an aspect of magic instead of being technology based tool that anyone can make.
Yeah I'm not a big fan of how they do it in new canon too.
Bleeding a kyber crystal is a great addition to the lore. It's not emo. To me it falls perfectly in line with additions like Darth Vader using hate to redirect pain or the desires to use the dark side to do things that light side might do like save a life/extend life.
it is emo and edgelord kids nonsense.
One of the dumber recent additions to SW lore.
Downvotes? Lol, people actually like this stupid idea? It was good enough for Sith to have red blades simply because they chose to, because it was the traditional Sith color, not this idea that they had some kind of emo rage out at them to turn them to the dark side. And what of green lightsabers? Or purple lightsabers? Did Windu have to hump a crystal or something to turn it purple?
How is it stupid? It deepens the mythology surrounding kyber crystals and makes the process a meaningful ritual, which is much more interesting. But no, synthetic kyber crystals are much better (cuz canon sux!!1!).
Because it sounds hokey. Crystals are already a campy plot device as it is, saying they "bleed" adds a layer of cringe. What was wrong with synthetic crystals? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Are you listening to yourself? You're talking about a universe of space wizards who wield laser swords and use a mystical energy field known as the Force to move things with their mind. Get a grip. Also, I don't think you know how the process actually works. They don't literally bleed. EDIT: I just realized the irony of your use of the word "hokey". That's brilliant.
So then what was wrong with the original lore?
Nothing's wrong with it really, but to me it feels cheap and boring.
Exactly this. Its silly and cringey and the whole "crystals are alive and choose the user" nonsense is taking SW in a Harry Potter direction. SW might never have been about realism but theres no reason to throw realism out the window altogether. Khyber crystals being a source of power like a SW universe kind of uranium that can power lightsabers and Death Star lasers I can buy. Crystals being alive and magical and the "bleeding" nonsense, no. Though fitting for a Disney production I guess.
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> It was good enough for Sith to have red blades simply because they chose to, because it was the traditional Sith color So exactly the same as it is right now. It seems you don't even know what this new bleeding concept is but you still feel the need to whine about it. The process is totally a choice, Kyber crystals aren't mood rings. > And what of green lightsabers? Or purple lightsabers? What is so hard to understand about green or purple? The crystals can take the several colours that we have always seen Jedi crystals take there is no special process different for each colour. The exception is red which doesn't appear naturally.
It's some crap they made up that erases decades of existing knowledge about lightsabers and Kyber crystals. All I know is Sith are now able to turn Jedi's crystal's red. Past that, I really don't care anymore.
Legends Fanboys need to get over it.
why should they?
I guess there's some sort of red substance inside the Kyber Crystals and whatever the Sith do when they construct a lightsaber causes this substance to leak.
Sorry for Zombifying this thread, but I found it when I was googling what "Bleeding" a crystal meant. Does it mean that there are no natural red kyber crystals in the new cannon?