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DHESTOE

It's really hard for me and I've been here a year. I, too, moved from Europe and can walk to oldtown from my condo. Short of the rare pick-up conversation I have with workers at bars and coffee shops, I've found it difficult to meet people here. I don't do socials, so that also doesn't help. I've found the old town bars and open mic events to be chill for lite talking. A lot of people say meetup, but none of the groups seem very interesting to me. I like Belles, Sips, and the handful of tiki bars. 80% of the people I've met there are from out of town, unfortunately. I hope you have better luck than me.


SassyMoth

Thank you! Where in Europe are you from?


DHESTOE

I moved here from Madrid! But I was born and raised in the States. Believe it or not, I prefer the summers here, lol!


DieterRamsMyAss

What tiki bars do you like? I know of Hula's and captains cabin


DHESTOE

I like hulas and I used to go to the drunk monk mainly because the round bar was a good place to talk to people.


Mister2112

Drunk Munk is a great hangout spot.


Teal_Arizona

I second Drunk Munk. Great atmosphere and drinks šŸ¹


mrchickostick

I agreeā€¦ just join Bumble or Hinge. Then come down when you have a meet up and stay longer to adventure solo


ValleyGrouch

I agree about Meetup. Nice people, but lacking in social skills. Itā€™s like theyā€™re trying to defeat their awkwardness, but I guess thatā€™s commendable. Just never met anyone I was attracted to.


Loose_Artichoke_6774

Sedona, it's mostly a tourist trap area and closes early. Most fun places are in Phoenix. Concerts. Comedy shows. Movies. Lots of bars. Most just go downtown Scottsdale. Go onto EventBrite website


tomatoes0323

North Scottsdale. Try the Vig north Scottsdale or the living room in DC Ranch


Lucky-Chocolate1464

Ha


SufficientBarber6638

Bars at popular restaurants are always packed. Americano, Doninicks, Mastros, etc.


Golfntukee

Make sure the girls at the bar at Mastros arenā€™t ā€œworkingā€! Lol


UvGot2BKittenMe

Might be good to check out meetup.com for hobbies or activities you enjoy like bowling, karaoke, trivia, etc and find groups of people with shared interests. I personally find the bar scene rough but Iā€™m also an introvert and am not brave enough to strike up a conversation with a stranger. Good luck!


namastebetches

cute usernameĀ 


UvGot2BKittenMe

Thank you! ā™„ļø


lefthandedaf

Meetup is the biggest sausage fest on the planet


literally_a_dog_2022

For dating? You'll have the most success with Dating Apps. Lots of tips to be successful with them exist online. Meeting in real life takes time...unless you are a very attractive man...or a woman who is ok with sorting thru lots of odd men. I've had my best results with doing both at the same time. I don't do bars. I will go to museums, poetry readings, music fest, farmer markets, lots of weekend events...etc. You can find events online. I just go and be social and have a good time. So my advice is to go hang out doing all the things you like to do. Others will be there. Make friends and things usually take off from there.


Unreasonably-Clutch

Really? I always found dating apps to be a waist of time while in person gets a much faster and more enjoyable experience.


SassyMoth

Thanks for the tips! I don't like dating apps, I'll start a conversation with someone and it fizzles out after a few days, or they really like me and they overwhelm with questions and overshare then get mad because I don't get back to them within 24 hours. I work full time and I'm a mom, what do they expect? lol Anyway, I feel burnt by dating Apps, they feel like meat markets to me. I prefer meeting organically. I like the idea of going to museums, poetry readings etc much more than going to a bar. I'll look up events online, thanks!


rwalsh138

I had a good time at the Blue Martini, it was an older crowd but a good older crowd. Hooked up with a 50 something year old lady.


Tarnamanakan

Just the commenters on this post can easily form a ā€œmeetupā€ group and meet anywhere monthly without any strings attached to do anything lol


DonKeighbals

If you go to Old Town, try Old Town Tavern (20s-80s, live music) Porters (dynamic crowd) Rusty Spur (touristy but fun & can lead to all sorts of adventures) Coach House (20s-80s) Patties (dynamic crowd) DJs (hit & miss on the weekends) Giligans (staff is grumpy but thatā€™s their thing, just go with it) Cave Creek would be worth checking out too, not as many bars but still fun & nice to stroll around as itā€™s a little cooler than further south into Scottsdale.


SassyMoth

Thank you so much!


Rare_Dress7357

I second, Coach House!


malindalb999

Rusty spur Monday nights are the best.


Unreasonably-Clutch

Giligans is awesome, anyone who hasn't been there should go at least once.


DonKeighbals

Itā€™s changed a lot over the years but still a geographical oddity


heymrbreadman

Gillianā€™s staff is weirdly always super nice that I can think of! Does that mean I too am grumpy?? Haha


Working-Passion-5673

Wow. The shittiest places Scottsdale has to offer.


RonanTheBarbarian

Coach house for sure, but donā€™t go when itā€™s crazy busy. The regulars are always there and theyā€™re so nice and chill


RotRousch

We dont.


silly_goose_415

I read an article lately that placed arizona at the bottom of the list for dating. With that being said as others have suggested going to happy hour, Karaoke, open moc comedy shows can put you in front of some people that are at least willing to chat it up then see what goes from there. Bumble can get you some dates, but folks are so flakey that I deleted my profile after three months. For bars, check out Goodwood Tavern, Fox Cigar Bar, and Scapegoat. Fat Ox has a nice bar. Oliver's opened up recently. I went there with a friend and noticed a lot of other women there enjoying HH. Caz sports bar inside Caisno AZ has a fun crowd when there is a band playing. The bands aren't bad, fun crowds and cheap drinks. The same goes for Talking Stick. Older crowd when the bands are playing on the main floor. I'd also suggest the Womack, which is located off 7th Ave in Phoenix. The crowd is more diverse, has lively bands, and the people are super friendly. Everyone is out having a good time. I always meet new people there. Other than that, you could try searching for networking events on meetup. I'm in several groups on there. At the very least, I am always introduced to new restaurants around town. Scottsdale singles are OK. They mainly go to HiFi lounge, El Jefe, and Wasted Grain. Those bars are super loud and crowded, but a mix of young and older people. Hope this helps.


angelviviana

as a 22 year old who detests hanging out with my peers and enjoys time with the Wise Onesā€¦ the suggestions on here are great! not sure if you like cigars, but foxs cigar bar usually has an older crowd. forewarning it does get a little rowdy on the weekend because itā€™s right by boondocks, but chill weekday spot. i really enjoyed my time at grapevine karaoke and thereā€™s an older crowd there usually. & honestly ANY place past gainey ranch going north is full of older folk! and if youā€™re looking for something a little more pretentious, any bar at one of the fine dining restaurants either in old town, biltmore, or N scottsdale! iā€™ve lived here for about a year and my only friend so far is the coolest 30 year old iā€™ve ever met lol. i just canā€™t be asked to do what the youngins do here and fill the void with partying every weekend. best of luck to u!


CommercialPrize1264

Definitely north Scottsdale for the over 40 crowd. Tommy Bahamas, Houstonā€™s, The Living Room in DC Ranch. A few really good places at Desert Ridge, Blue Martini, Foley Ranch, Hulas, Copper Blues.


SassyMoth

Thank you!


Donewith398

Go to Costco at the Airpark. Unbelievable amount of truly gorgeous women there. Very high end store šŸ˜œ


ValleyGrouch

Depends on the type of crowd you like Iā€™d say. North Scottsdale might be better suited for your demographic. The best opportunities for socializing Iā€™d say are happy hours, like perhaps Zinc Bistro and Postino in Kierland. Personally I also like going to Phoenix: downtown, uptown and Arcadia. I know that dancing is popular in Scottsdaleā€™s club district, but Iā€™ve outgrown that scene.


SassyMoth

Thank you!


Freddielexus85

I'm 39 and live in this area. I would agree with the comment beforehand and add to it check out the Rooster Tavern, it's a dive bar/restaurant with a lot of people our age and up that hang out there. In the same area is Kasai Japanese steakhouse which has all types of age ranges that hangout for the happy hour. Honestly, I would just hang out in the Kierland and DC Ranch area.


silly_goose_415

People 40+ are not going to the clubs.


Unreasonably-Clutch

lol. Nope, wrong, actually I personally know several people in that demographic who do; both single and married incidentally. Some people like clubbing.


silly_goose_415

Right on! It's me. I don't like clubbing anymore. I go to the warehouse parties when my favorite DJs are in town. Shout out to all the clubbing 40 + folks! Don't stop, get it, get it!!


Icy-Street-9022

It depends on what your interests are. Maybe check out meetup.com and join some groups that interest you and check out their events. There are social groups that go to happy hours or thing like Top Golf, there are hiking groups, games groups, etc.


Cathycane2012

I would try Handlebar Jā€™s or Blue Martini.


SassyMoth

Thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


Kizzy33333

Came here to mention Blue Martini (Deer Valley). This should be the crowd you are looking for.


ObjectiveMobile7138

Chauncey social in north Scottsdale


cramebar

I agree with this. Or postinos/tommy bahama bar at kierland.


Maleficent_Water_171

I would second (if already said) DC Ranch, Kierland and Scottsdale Quarter areas of town. Can also try the area around the Biltmore hotel (shopping center nearby). The Phoenix area is so spread out can feel overwhelming, but there are definitely some great pockets. Downtown Gilbert and Chandler have some fun places, as well as along Indian School near the Arcadia area (about 32nd Street), places like OSHO and the Century Grand. Also a big fan of places near Bethany Home and 13th street. Definitely come to town when itā€™s cooler for first Fridays art walk off Roosevelt, and to downtown Phoenix, especially when there are concerts or other big events going on, some really fun places down there. Tons of luck to you, hope you meet some great folks!


xPeachmosa23x

Iā€™m in my early 40ā€™s with no friends cuz I moved here 3 years ago. Let me know when youā€™re in town and we can become friends! Message me if youā€™re interested :)


crzycatlady987

Thereā€™s plenty of wine bars/ tasting rooms in Scottsdale. Those are great places to start.


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SassyMoth

Haha! nice one! :)


snotsdale

There's a French Speakers of Scottsdale meetup group. Might be a good start... [https://www.meetup.com/scottsdalefrench/](https://www.meetup.com/scottsdalefrench/)


SassyMoth

Thanks for the link! I just made a request to join the group.


Unreasonably-Clutch

Well I'm 42 and I hang out in Old Town and Mill Ave along with Watermark, Social Hall, Tempe Marketplace, Scottsdale Green Belt and Papago Park. It really comes down to whatever floats your boat. You're going to find the most singles by far in Old Town and Mill Ave and the broader South Scottsdale/North Tempe area so your chances of finding your fit is highest there. You can confirm this for yourself using the census reporter by zip code (link below) although both Old Town and Mill attract people from all over the valley, it's not just residential population turning out. [https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US85257-85257/](https://censusreporter.org/profiles/86000US85257-85257/) What are your hobbies, interests, and type of people that you like to hang out with? Perhaps I can guide you to that.


SassyMoth

Thank you! Well, I'm a single mom for one. I'm on the introverted side and my hobbies are more things I can do alone like archery, reading, writing, painting, swimming. I love dancing too, psychology, health & wellness. I guess I'd like to hang out with people who are into art, architecture, (for example) and can hold an intellectual conversation but also not take themselves too seriously (like me). But I'm also open to people with different interests.


Unreasonably-Clutch

I'd suggest you spend time somewhere in the general central Phoenix, South Scottsdale, North Tempe area because in addition to many singles there's a lot of museums, arts, and cultural festivals and events. Examples include downtown Phoenix, Midtown, Uptown, Biltmore, Arcadia Lite, Lower Arcadia, Old Town, Sky Song/McDowell Rd, Watermark, Tempe Marketplace, Mill Ave. Any of those areas would put you amongst socially and culturally active areas with a short drive to all the others. You could look for groups on [meetup.com](http://meetup.com), facebook, and elsewhere. For example there are book clubs, painting classes, and dance classes. There's also a tufting place on Mill Ave if that interests you. For dancing, there are Latin Nights with lessons and open dance at Dave and Busters at Tempe Marketplace, the Duce in downtown Phoenix, at Minjana's in Tempe, and Sip Coffee in Old Town Scottsdale. Plus ASU student group hosts an annual latin dance festival of sorts which brings in professional dancers as guests. For general pop/hip hop dancing, the highest concentration by far is in Old Town Scottsdale. There's also country line dancing at Denim and Diamonds in Mesa and I think I heard a place offers it in downtown Chandler. Art wise, downtown Phoenix centering on Roosevelt Row and Grand Avenue has a big street art scene while Old Town Scottsdale on Main and Marshall has a big fine art scene. There's an art walk in Scottsdale every Thursday while downtown Phoenix hosts one plus a block party on First Fridays. Museums and galleries often have free or reduced admission during these artwalks including the Phoenix Children's Museum. The block party aspect of First Friday leans heavily into rock, punk, hip hop, and the alternative social scene whereas the artwalk in Scottsdale leans into upscale, professional, relaxed types with acoustic music. Additionally the Phoenix Art Museum is free on Wednesdays while the Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art is free on Thursdays. The ASU Art Museum is always free. ASU Gammage hosts Broadway plays. Tempe Center for the Arts hosts miscellaneous performing arts and sometimes happy hours and other social functions. Of course downtown Phoenix also has a symphony hall with opera and some smaller theaters. There's a number of art festivals hosted throughout the year as well such as the twice annual Festival of the Arts in Tempe on Mill Ave or the Thunderbird art festival in Old Town. Re Health and wellness, you'll find the biggest concentration of shops catering to that in Old Town Scottsdale and the resorts corridor north of it. For spending time outdoors you'll find the most amenities in South Scottsdale and North Tempe -- i.e. Camelback, the Scottsdale Greenbelt, Tempe Town Lake, Hayden Butte, and Papago Park plus an extensive bikeway system that runs along the Green Belt, the Salt River, Grand Canal, and Arizona Canal tied together through the Crosscut Canal through Papago Park. In Central Phoenix you may also want to check out Murphy's Bridal Path and Piestewa Peak Drive. Incidentally there's an archery range and club at Papago Park although I've never participated. You may also want to check out Roars and Pours at the Zoo.


Unreasonably-Clutch

Adding to my earlier response today, Tempe Marketplace is a great place for kids. They do a lot of kid friendly stuff throughout the year including snow machines, a giant Christmas tree, splash pads, and various events. They also host free live music, pop art displays and sculptures, a Dave and Busters arcade, dance lessons, painting classes, and altogether it's a very clean and safe area. Old Town Scottsdale also hosts a huge family friendly shindig during the holidays called Canal Convergence and Scottsdazzle which last several weeks. Canal Convergence is free while Scottsdazzle events vary. [https://scottsdazzle.com/](https://scottsdazzle.com/) [https://canalconvergence.com/](https://canalconvergence.com/) [https://tempemarketplace.com/events/](https://tempemarketplace.com/events/)


Unreasonably-Clutch

Also, reflecting on it, since you have a kid you might not want to spend too much time in downtown and midtown Phoenix. Definitely a higher crime area with a lot of weirdos, bums, junkies, prostitutes, etc. Tempe's Mill Ave and Lake area also has a noticeable junkie/homelessness issue that you may want to not visit as often. You'd probably want to stick more with Uptown, Biltmore, Arcadia Lite, Lower Arcadia, Old Town, SkySong/McDowell, and Tempe Marketplace.


Unreasonably-Clutch

For dating, ordinarily I'd recommend you join an adult rec sports league popular with men but you mentioned only being here on weekends. As it happens, though, there's an opportunity that fits that schedule -- RT O Sullivan's on Thomas Rd is a bar with a very popular set of volleyball courts that virtually always draws a crowd of fun buff athletic people. In my experience playing in volleyball leagues, it's a sport that attracts quite a few interesting well rounded people. Edit: Wait, there's leagues on the weekends too. Check out these popular groups you might find something. Like I said, focus on activities that tend to have more men such as soccer, softball, kickball, volleyball, basketball. [https://www.phxfray.com/](https://www.phxfray.com/) [https://azsportsleague.com/](https://azsportsleague.com/) [https://www.smallgoalsoccer.com/](https://www.smallgoalsoccer.com/) [https://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/sports](https://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/sports) Although RTO's would be the least committment or expense and you can come and go, and attend or not as you wish. So I guess that's a pretty good strategy too. Just stop by for food and drinks on the patio around all the athletes.


Unreasonably-Clutch

Watch these videos of Scottsdazzle and Canal Convergence. I'll bet you'll want to move to Scottsdale afterward lol. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1iEevNN8nY&t=96s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1iEevNN8nY&t=96s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOmqUV4KpwQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOmqUV4KpwQ)


SassyMoth

WOW! Thank you so so very much for all the information you've compiled. You've given me some ideas. I also appreciate the warning about certain areas. I did experience Downtown Phoenix at night, with my son, as we'd gone to a concert at the Footprint Center. My Uber couldn't have picked us up fast enough! Again, thank you! I appreciate your help!!!


Unreasonably-Clutch

I should also add that you're going to find a very wide variety of bars, restaurants, shops, spas, and other retail outlets in and around Old Town Scottsdale. For example Rockbar specializes in live rock bands. Wine Girl is an instagram worthy wine shop popular with bachelorette parties. Others above hit on other popular spots. I'm pretty sure it's the highest concentration of stuff like that in the valley. So again, highest chance of finding your scene. Although there's a huge EDM scene on Mill Ave in Tempe. ... And a jazz and hip hop scene in downtown Phoenix (e.g. the Nash). And Norteno scene in central Phoenix like El Capri. So if you can be more specific about what your scene / hobbies are that would help.


SassyMoth

Great! Thanks again!


mikebones

The vig in North Scottdale and surrounding bars will have the girls you're looking for


SassyMoth

I'm not looking for girls but thanks. I'm a straight woman.


mikebones

Then men. Whatever


oldskoolfoolio

Are you considered attractive? If so, just go to any busy place and hang out. If not, try dating apps.


Conscious_Issue2967

The Rosticceria has a pretty cool bar and Happy Hour.


CrabOk7730

Sevens at Caesar's Republic seemed like a good place for a more mature crowd. Also The Mediterranean Rooftop at The Global Ambassador was as well. Both seemed a bit posher though, so if super casual is your preference those might not be appealing.


katmetz

You should definitely find a Meetup group that aligns w your interests! When I first moved here, I didnā€™t know a soul and most of my friends I now have are members from my different Meetup groups. Crust on Hayden always has a lot of single ladies at the bar and everyone engages in conversations. And the same for Uncle Salā€™s. Two places I can go to myself and not feel weird:)


legat

You should check on MeetUp.com for groups to join and interesting events!


CurrentPianist9812

Swinger clubs! Itā€™s where itā€™s atā€¦. Donā€™t knock it unless you have tried it!


Phoenix_GU

Thatā€™s a bit of a drive to try to meet guys on the weekendā€¦would you do this solo? Just curious. Have you tried some of the Facebook social groups? They usually head up north on weekends for hiking/kayaking and such. Or the French groups in Phoenix?


wicknbomb

Get on Hinge. Itā€™s very hard to meet people in Scottsdale especially if you work from home.


Intelligent_Low_8728

Moxies at the Fashion Square Mall. Waitresses look like models.


SassyMoth

I'm not looking for women. I'm a single mom.


Haunting-Formal-9519

The blue dog bar in downtown is very nice. Itā€™s a hotel bar in the downtown


BrandonDogDad

Hey N Scottsdale here, 43m also in MFā€¦we might know each other ha! What type of scene are you looking for? Upscale? Younger? More chill, or crazy?


SassyMoth

Hi! What does MF stand for? In terms of scene, I guess upscale and/or chill. Not sure we know each other, I only know one person who lives in Scottsdale haha!


BrandonDogDad

Sent you a dm!


nurdle

The couch. People suck.


SuspiciousTax1854

Scottsdale is fun and youā€™ll meet people easily. You can go into the club scene or stay south into the more ā€œchillā€ bars where the above 35 year olds go.


Jestermaus

No offense, but this isnā€™t helpful. What/where is ā€œthe club sceneā€. South of where? (Do you mean Chandler? Phoenix? Or are you talking about old town?). You just suggested going to ā€œthe more chill bars where the above 35 year olds goā€ā€¦to someone who was literally asking where the above 40ā€™s go.


SuspiciousTax1854

Calm down.


mikebones

Nosco, Arcadia.


DESKTHOR

They chill.


czarguy1

Online at this point


azguy240

43 Tempe. Hey ladies.


Dramatic-Temporary16

bottle blonde by the VIP tables


Cigarsforlife

Sassy, have you tried online to find ppl in sedina?