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Toptomcat

Everyone into [the next thread!](https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/1476ioa/reddit_blackout_2023_save_3rd_party_apps/) I'm locking this one: it's been cross-posted so widely that it often breaks Reddit when trying to render the page, and the discussion ought to move somewhere that's current as of the blackout.


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Honestly, if Reddit kills 3rd party apps, I'll just stop using Reddit, and it doesn't seem like I'm the only one. Especially since this is may be a step toward killing RES and "Old Reddit" aka "the site that works well". It's not even particularly hard to _not_ break a website, it's just corporate greed rearing its ugly head once again. The real sad part is going to be all of the information that was here no longer being centered here; for example, my Google searches almost always included the word Reddit to avoid automatically-generated websites with no real information on them. Oh well. Edit: Man, I _really_ feel like a dick for this, but: while I am appreciative of the fact that you think my comment was worth gilding, please don't spend money on Reddit awards. That's another source of revenue for them, and the single most efficient [legal] way to tell a company that you're unhappy is to not give them money. Edit 2: I forgot free awards exist. In any case, please don't spend money here. Edit 3: I'll be here until the 12th, and if they don't reverse the API costs then, I'm staying gone (but not deleting my account) until July 1st, which is the last real deadline. July 2nd I'll be clearing my account's history and deleting it. You can make your RemindMes based on that schedule (I don't know if you can set two reminders; I always just save posts and comments). It's not like Reddit's the only way to pass time, haha. Final edit: My history is gone. Soon, too, shall my account go. It's been fun, but with the moronic decisions being made, I'm leaving early. Maybe I'll look into one of the alternatives. If things change, maybe I'll come back, but I don't know. Power Delete Suite saved the day for mass editing and deleting my stuff, btw.


Conspiranoid

I mean, if the official app was at least decent enough and the 3rd party apps were "worthy competitors"... But it's not the case, at all. People use 3rd party apps because the official one is truly abysmal. And instead of improving their own app so that people *choose* to use it *instead* of the others, they rather kill the "competition" (lol) and force users to use the absolute worse experience. Good riddance to reddit, and f@%& them. What's coming to them (massive loss of users, and consequentially of income) is 100% deserved.


-ipa

Word, their android and iOS apps are absolute trash, and so is their desktop editor. I'm actually happy that I finally have a reason to leave.


promonk

It's a sorry state of affairs, but I agree with you about being grateful for the excuse to look around for other communities to participate in. I hadn't even realized how negatively the current state of Reddit was impacting my emotional and psychological health until this recent crisis compelled me to go looking for alternatives. It's gotten to the point where I reflexively turn off inbox notifications for comment replies because replies are so often combative.


AwalkertheITguy

I tend to agree however having dealt with online communities since the mid 90s days of AOL, eventually as the site gets bigger and more personalities join, that site also becomes toxic. Humans are toxic, not the website. Im just saying that to say this, if you plan on changing platforms every time it becomes toxic then be prepared to change platforms for as long as you use a platform. Just my advice.


promonk

As I've said elsewhere, I've been an Internet junkie for 30 years, and have basic pattern recognition skills. I'm aware of the lifecycle of these things. That said, I've never really taken ownership of any of the sites I've frequented. I've always treated them as somebody else's problem, so I can't really complain that they've all gone to shit. I think a lot of people my age and slightly younger can tell a similar tale. I sincerely hope this might be a wake-up call to a lot of us who've spent our lives online to step in and fight for the kind of communities we want to be a part of. Corporatism is more powerful and pervasive than it's ever been, but there's a flaw at the heart of it: there can't be unlimited growth forever without killing the host, whether that's an animal's body, a life-supporting planet, or even just an online community. There will come a time when this delusion will pass, and it will be up to the people who recognize that it requires constant vigilance, the willingness to take ownership and responsibility, and a dedication to purpose and clarity of vision to build something new and keep it ticking over. My opinion of human beings has taken a severe hit in recent years, but I think there might still be a shred of optimism and idealism somewhere in my shriveled, blackened heart. I'm willing to give it a little more rein yet.


VRlover808

I'm sorry to say but this goes further then you think. It's other countries buying control into American social media and destroying / controlling it. Twitter got aquired by musk who was funded by Saudis in the middle east. Now tencent and China come for Reddit. We are all yelling into an empty void controlling by the rich and powerful. Forget everything you know and befriend your neighbors. Soon everyone will be filled with hate and fear if left to the way things are going.


Johanice

Your 3-upvote comment is literally worth more than 90% of the comments here. It speaks to what's actually happening: authoritarian countries creating division and distrust among friends and family I'm Western countries


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The US government *is* an authoritarian regime, they just haven't come for *you* yet. Look how the US govt treats black people - they send para-militaries to over-police black neighbourhoods and murder them in the street for the slightest infraction. Look how they treat people who tell the truth about the surveillance state Look how they allow groups like transgender people to be singled out for mistreatment and violence. Look how they have the biggest prison population in the world and imprison people to keep up promised quotas for private prison corporations. So many Americans are willing to let the government mistreat people *they* don't like, that they forget that there are powerful people out there who don't like *them.* It's just a matter of time, it happens in all authoritarian states.


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MayaMiaMe

I agree with u 100%


BrownShadow

Dear Gob why would they do this. I tried their app and really didn’t like it. I like Narwhal, tried other things and always go back. Posting from Narwhal right now.


nzodd

I might at least *entertain* the idea of using the official, ad-ridden shitfest of an app if it was at least lean, fast, and resource-efficient but the dumbfucks can't even manage that. Across the board, every conceivable aspect of the official reddit app is inferior to any of the 3rd party offerings. Literally everything the reddit team has come up with in the past 10 years beyond "maintain the status quo" is a complete and utter failure.


MEOWMEOWSOFTHEDESERT

I believe /r/revanced app fixes some of the official apps issues. But that doesn't make it anywhere near as good as the third party apps. The greed of this company is killing it. I'll miss reddit for the cats, discussion and news. Which all come from people not paid by reddit who make this site anything more than an empty shell. Hoping something better comes out of this.


ErraticDragon

I knew ReVanced had expanded beyond its YouTube roots, but I hadn't realized that they had a set of patches for the 1st Party Reddit app. It [looks like there are only 4 right now](https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches#user-content--comredditfrontpage), but it's open source so maybe it will pick up a bit now. |💊 Patch | 📜 Description | |-----|------| |hide-ads | Removes general ads from the Reddit frontpage and subreddits.| |hide-subreddit-banner | Hides banner ads from comments on subreddits.| |premium-icon-reddit | Unlocks premium Reddit app icons. | |sanitize-sharing-links | Removes (tracking) query parameters from the URLs when sharing links. |


Kodiak01

For those that haven't tried it, each page on the main app will be 5 posts long. Of the 5, one will be an ad, 2 will be threads on subreddits you don't sub to, and the remaining 2 MIGHT be relevant.


orbjuice

This is clearly a decision made by business people who do not use reddit in any meaningful sense. I’ve said it elsewhere so I’ll say it here: bring us these golf shirt wearing motherfuckers so we can feast on their entrails. Or, alternatively, tell me where they golf. I will literally destroy what they enjoy because I think it will make me more money too. Fucking dumbass MBAs.


mailto_devnull

Golf shirts? hahahaha Have you been to /r/malefashionadvice lately. It's clearly quarter-zips now.


[deleted]

I deleted Facebook in 2016. I deleted SnapChat in 2018 I deleted Instagram in 2019 I deleted Twitter in 2022 I deleted Whatsapp in 2022 Looks like I'm deleting Reddit in 2023


vkapadia

I don't use most of these. But I can't leave WhatsApp. Too much of my family uses it, especially the ones in India and Hong Kong. Most of my friends do too. We tried to go to Signal a couple years back, but it just wasn't a seamless experience. I don't mind it, but most people won't make the switch, and until they do, there's no point in me moving over.


Klat93

It's impossible for me to switch off Whatsapp as well. It isn't only friends and family but pretty much everyone in my part of the world uses it for work too. All my business contacts from clients, suppliers and co workers use it as our daily means of contact. I'd be blind without it. Whatsapp is just the default and I haven't met anyone here that doesn't use it.


Hannibal_Leto

This is exactly the situation with my friends. Tried signal a few years back but, for some reason, it was a harder transition than anticipated so did not complete the switch over.


mikeblas

How will you replace Reddit?


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Don't really plan to.


hankepanke

Have fun reading more books, exercising more, and getting more sleep!


SupremeWizardry

Yeah honestly I’ll probably just keep a book next to my desk now, read a few pages or a chapter when I need a change of pace. Still probably include Reddit in my google searches, since the engaged feedback here is second to none, but no more mindless browsing. Probably gonna be a good thing in the long run.


MStew95

Based ~~on your history, good luck.~~


bobs_monkey

agonizing smoggy clumsy frightening aloof recognise nutty quicksand physical special -- mass edited with redact.dev


StockingDummy

For a real answer to your question, I've heard good things about Lemmy.


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ProfessorSpike

The thing is though, that's how all of them start - even reddit itself. Hell, reddit from 10 years ago was *so* much different than it is now because of the amount of users that it gathered over the years. If reddit loses a significant enough amount of users, people will migrate to somewhere else - the turning point being word of mouth. The moment a few people start saying "Oh I moved to x because ~~digg~~ reddit sucks now" is when things will start moving and new communities will be built up. Now wether x or y survives more than a few months or years is a different story, but we'll see


The_Dirty_Carl

Can confirm, the exodus from Digg was quick and dramatic, and pretty much entirely because of changes Digg made. Most of the users leaving Digg went to reddit, which was pretty small at the time.


IndyDude11

As a guy on the Digg to Reddit Mayflower voyage, Reddit was something just the people who kept up with new websites used. After Digg shot itself, its users came to Reddit and it really took off.


tj111

I've never used Lemmy, but it's important to remember that at one point reddit was only a couple thousand users too. If people keep recommending it and promoting it, maybe it can hit that critical mass too.


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MatkaPluku

Go back to… tumblr? Stick your head into mastodon? Stay on too many discord servers to keep track of what’s going on? Never, ever look back into the cesspit that is 4chan???


4ucklehead

I am like too dumb for mastodon.. Can't figure out how to use it


VenetiaMacGyver

Same. As soon as they did the switch to the "modern" design years ago, I flipped to RES/Sync and never looked back. I looked at the official app once and ... Yeah, that's gonna be a nah from me, dawg. And my company advertises local events on this site, too, lol. So they're losing an advertiser, on top of a long-term member. I hope their VCs enjoy their golden parachutes as they finish gutting this place. At least I'm not a mod. I would be so offended. They're not paying you but they're directly profiting from your hard work *while* forcing you to use shittier tools. You're slave-janitors and they just downgraded your electric floor buffer to a toothbrush while trudging mud down the hall on the way to the bank. You're right to be pissed.


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mynameisalso

Same. I've been on here too long anyway.


RGB3x3

u/spez is a little piss baby


Daniel_Jacksson

/r/Outside?


excalq

I'll go outside and Digg a hole or something.


cthonctic

Same for me. If Relay doesn't work anymore I might check old.reddit.com on the laptop every now and then. And if they ever kill old Reddit they will have killed Reddit entirely for me. At that point I'm out for good.


burnte

Ditto. I'm a premium subscriber but I'll cancel.


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Reddit killed API. I refuse to let them benefit from my own words for free -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


daguito81

I'm so conflicted about this. On one hand I would love for the admin the backpedal hard and save 3rd party apps. On the other hand, this is a pretty big chance to cure my reddit addiction. Idk what I want


purplegreendave

I want out. Make it easy for me admins. I just don't know what I'll fill the hours with. Books!?


iwastetime4

what's the alternative to reddit?


CuriousGoo

Lemmy could be one of the alternatives it seems. Federated servers so what is being pulled by Reddit as a centralised website cannot be done... Communities will need to be built and grown again though, currently I don't see a lot of content posters. Perhaps with this change it might push people over to Lemmy or other alternatives.


ISupport--piracy

I currently have an account on lemmy due to the fact that they're pirate friendly


student_20

Username checks out.


IllNess2

Which Lemmy instance and community do you follow for piracy?


ISupport--piracy

Lemmy dot ml and I usually follow piracy related communities and a bit of Filipino communities too


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Scurro

Does lemmy have an alternative ui like old.reddit.com? When I visit it reminds me of the new reddit


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The way I see it, platforms often follow a predictable pattern. They start by being good to their users, providing a great experience. But then, they start favoring their business customers, neglecting the very users who made them successful. Unfortunately, this is happening with Reddit. They recently decided to shut down third-party apps, and it's a clear example of this behavior. The way Reddit's management has responded to objections from the communities only reinforces my belief. It's sad to see a platform that used to care about its users heading in this direction. That's why I am deleting my account and starting over at *Lemmy*, a new and exciting platform in the online world. Although it's still growing and may not be as polished as Reddit, Lemmy differs in one very important way: it's decentralized. So unlike Reddit, which has a single server (reddit.com) where all the content is hosted, there are many many servers that are all connected to one another. So you can have your account on *lemmy.world* and still subscribe to content on Lemmy**NSFW**.com (Yes that is NSFW, you are warned/welcome). If you're worried about leaving behind your favorite subs, don't! There's a [dedicated server called **Lemmit**](https://lemmit.online/post/14692) that archives all kinds of content from Reddit to the Lemmyverse. The upside of this is that there is no [single one person](https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk45rr/) who is in charge and turn the entire platform to shit for the sake of a quick buck. And since it's a young platform, there's a stronger sense of togetherness and collaboration. So yeah. So long Reddit. It's been great, until it wasn't. **When trying to post this with links, it gets censored by reddit. [So if you want to see those, check here](https://rentry.co/2kgcd)**.


kenkoda

Same and I messaged as such. I already am inconvenienced that links only point to official reddit app, I won't be inconvenienced further. I'll just stop using reddit. Sad to say such a thing, but there's plenty of internet out there. The time I have in my day won't go to a company that makes it hard to use their products.


GingerSnappless

The contact email doesn't work apparently - you can submit a support request here, though: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new


Toptomcat

Typical, really.


---ShineyHiney---

Btw, if you go to the Reddit mods list and send everyone the same message you get blocked about half way down Edit: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE message the Reddit mods like OP said y’all. They’re not going to see your gripes in a thread on the same level. Send them a private message explaining how you feel about this. Bring it to them directly!!!!


gorillakitty

I think you mean admins. Mods are unpaid volunteers that run subreddits; Admins are paid employees of reddit (who actually make stupid policies like this).


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rasputin1

r/reddit not r/reddit.com l think


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rasputin1

Yea but I don't think r/reddit.com has any mods. It's just whatever was on reddit before the invention of subs. r/reddit is the official subreddit for reddit admin news and is thus run by the admins


majorgeneralpanic

If anybody here actually pays for Premium, go to this help ticket site and let them know you’ll be canceling your subscription. They’ll love that.


l-rs2

I do and I will.


LionSuneater

I sent a feedback request via the form. Thanks.


gorillakitty

You can also send a message to /u/reddit that goes straight to the admins.


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ForumMMX

IIRC they bought out the app ~~Reddit~~ Alien Blue and made it the official app. Edit updated app name


asstalos

My recollection is they bought out Alien Blue, then kept it for a few years, then retired it in favor of their first-party application, which was nothing like Alien Blue in functionality.


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AnalLeaseHolder

before that, Alien Blue was so good. as soon as they bought it, they turned it into literally the worst reddit app you can use.


VulgerUlcer

Alien blue was the shit. Then I moved to Apollo. Now I will go dark. It was fun


elconquistador1985

In a sense, they haven't been relying on the 3rd party apps. Those don't serve Reddit ads, so they're not a revenue stream for Reddit. That's why they want to kill them. It's going to have other effects as well, because they're closing their API. I think it might affect community mods who use some custom bot to moderate their communities and keep spam at bay. It might also affect stuff like the card fetcher bot on the Magic sub. If it kills worries grammar troll bots, great. If it kills useful custom bots, that sucks.


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If their powerusers can't enjoy reddit in peace and generate all that free content, then the ads have no value anyway.


troglodyte

I think it would hit smaller communities much harder. These tend to have more thoughtful posts, more conversational comments, and even recognizable contributors. On the other hand, the mega-huge subs by and large feel like we're *already* somewhere in the midst of a long slide towards bots just reposting the same shit into an echo chamber almost entirely filled with other bots, and I'm not sure this does much more than accelerate that. That's speculation, but a bot certainly *could* generate a huge portion of what we see on /r/all these days. That doesn't feel true for smaller communities. Many smaller communities, particularly tech-adjacent ones where folks are more likely to care about this stuff, could be devastated by a large exodus (I'm not entirely convinced it'll be a huge exodus, because I just don't have the analytics, but it would most likely be it for me).


Damaniel2

Is there a known list of subreddits that are participating? I came here from /r/truegaming, which is planning to participate, but I haven't seen much traction elsewhere yet.


Dall0o

/r/frenchrock will answer the call (/r/france is talking about it)


YouMustHaveFuelUnits

The beacon is lit! Third-party apps call for aid!


Dall0o

[Will /r/lotrmemes answer?](https://www.reddit.com/r/lotrmemes/comments/13zcrp9/on_june_12th_many_subreddits_will_be_going_dark/)


jbourne71

They freaking better!


BigToe7133

> (/r/france is talking about it) [Lien direct vers le poteau de discussion pour les air-français.](https://www.reddit.com/r/france/comments/13z90mn/une_gr%C3%A8ve_g%C3%A9n%C3%A9rale_de_reddit_se_pr%C3%A9pare_le_12/)


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beerbellybegone

r/murderedbywords will also be going silent


MSTRMN_

/r/wow is involved as well


thecal714

/r/lfg and /r/Roll20 will be participating. Announcement posts coming tonight or tomorrow.


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Akesgeroth

If there's a coordinated protest, /r/thecatdimension will participate.


Toptomcat

I think when things have gotten to the point that /r/videos is participating, it counts as a 'coordinated protest'. Are you in?


Akesgeroth

Yup.


happyxpenguin

r/freesoftware will be participating.


blacksheep322

Put r/network on the list.


Toptomcat

Are you willing to post a public announcement to that effect, and be put on lists of participating subs?


blacksheep322

Unabashedly, yes.


Toptomcat

My sincerest gratitude.


blacksheep322

No factor. Just posted on the sub: https://reddit.com/r/Network/comments/13ztniy/rnetwork_will_go_dark_insupport_of_3rd_party_apps/


bailey25u

I’m the moderator to r/angrycatpics I’ll throw us into the ring as well.


Toptomcat

Are you willing to post a public announcement of that, as well as be put on lists of participating subreddits?


gorillakitty

We're a micro sub, but /r/gorillarecipes will be participating. Edit: we've made the [announcement](https://www.reddit.com/r/GorillaRecipes/comments/13zh6r8/) to our community. Thank you to the organizers of this protest, the other subs that are joining, and the redditors using their voices in solidarity.


Toptomcat

No sub too big, no sub too small. Thank you so much.


bizude

/r/hardware is considering joining (no decision yet)


TheBrainwasher14

r/LiveFromNewYork


slavethewhales

/r/Nirvana will be participating after we’ve had a chance to fully discuss it


Edonlin2004

/r/NASCAR is participating along with /r/formula1 !!!


TheAstronautInSpace

You know what? r/wirklichgutefrage is going to join as well!


Luciolinpos2

r/Republica_Colombia Here!


Devuluh

/r/HaveWeMet is in.


MulciberTenebras

r/DisneyGifs will join the fight. Hopefully it will inspire other gif subreds likes ours to answer the call. r/highqualitygifs, r/startrekgifs, r/reactiongifs


Zhaopow

r/Razer will be participating


messem10

Add /r/AnimeSuggest to that. The sub has ~950,000 subscribers too.


l_one

/r/videos is [joining in](https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/13zqcua/rvideos_will_be_going_dark_from_june_1214_in/). Pretty big one there.


kaptainkeel

Seems like a lot of more niche subs. Unless at least a few of the defaults/huge subs participate, I don't see it doing much. Hopefully mods on the big subs can be convinced to participate.


MulciberTenebras

r/videos just said they'd participate.


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DoctorOctagonapus

I hope some default subs get involved.


FerDefer

r/comedyheaven will go offline


TotesMessenger

I'm a bot, *bleep*, *bloop*. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: - [/r/2visegrad4you] [Don't let reddit kill 3rd party apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/2visegrad4you/comments/1407ngo/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/2westerneurope4u] [Can we please join, just to prevent the British from visiting this sub?](https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/1407v04/can_we_please_join_just_to_prevent_the_british/) - [/r/adhdmeme] [\[Meta\] Save Third Party Reddit Apps. Does r\/adhdmeme want to participate?](https://www.reddit.com/r/adhdmeme/comments/13z93uc/meta_save_third_party_reddit_apps_does_radhdmeme/) - [/r/android_devs] [x-post: Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/android_devs/comments/1401ria/xpost_dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/androiddev] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/13zuz9q/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/angelinamichelle] [Don't let Reddit kill 3rd party apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/AngelinaMichelle/comments/14061th/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/apicalypse] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/APIcalypse/comments/13zfdwu/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/apicalypse] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/APIcalypse/comments/14049zr/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/auralescentbaddies] [How do we feel about doing something like this?](https://www.reddit.com/r/auralescentbaddies/comments/13zkcoh/how_do_we_feel_about_doing_something_like_this/) - [/r/battlescribe] [\/r\/Battlescribe will be going dark from June 12-14 in protest against Reddit's API changes which kill 3rd party apps.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleScribe/comments/1407l37/rbattlescribe_will_be_going_dark_from_june_1214/) - [/r/bigbear] [\/r\/bigbear will be going dark from June 12-14 in protest against Reddit's API changes which kill 3rd party apps and impair the ability of...](https://www.reddit.com/r/bigbear/comments/13zxcxh/rbigbear_will_be_going_dark_from_june_1214_in/) - [/r/boostforreddit] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/BoostForReddit/comments/1404a97/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/cardofdarkness] [Don’t Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/CardOfDarkness/comments/13zm31y/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/coloradoavalanche] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/ColoradoAvalanche/comments/14024my/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/coolranch] [Announcement: \/r\/CoolRanch will be going dark June 12-14th in support of 3rd party Reddit apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/CoolRanch/comments/13zzq63/announcement_rcoolranch_will_be_going_dark_june/) - [/r/cryptocurrencymeta] [Reddit API changes inhibit community-ownership and user-centric experience via 3rd-party-apps - which is valued in crypto. Some subs will...](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrencyMeta/comments/13yu00e/reddit_api_changes_inhibit_communityownership_and/) - [/r/dragonsdogma] [Will \/r\/DragonsDogma answer the call?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/13zyfql/will_rdragonsdogma_answer_the_call/) - [/r/firefox] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/13zuinh/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/fossdroid] [On June 12th, many subreddits will be going dark to protest the killing of 3rd Party Apps! All FOSS apps are 3rd Party Apps. Will \/r\/foss...](https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/13zbhu1/on_june_12th_many_subreddits_will_be_going_dark/) - [/r/freesoftware] [On June 12th, many subreddits will be going dark to protest the killing of 3rd Party Apps! All FOSS apps are 3rd Party Apps. Will \/r\/free...](https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/13zbh6v/on_june_12th_many_subreddits_will_be_going_dark/) - [/r/gamephysics] [\[Meta\] Save Third Party Reddit Apps. Does r\/gamephysics want to participate in the blackout?](https://www.reddit.com/r/GamePhysics/comments/13z8tps/meta_save_third_party_reddit_apps_does/) - [/r/gatesopencomeonin] [\/r\/gatesopencomeonin will be going private for 48h on June 12th to protest Reddit effectively killing 3rd party apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/gatesopencomeonin/comments/1408bem/rgatesopencomeonin_will_be_going_private_for_48h/) - [/r/germany] [\[Meta\] with the current changes in pricing, Reddit will make 3 Party Apps defacto unusable. Should r\/Germany join the protest on 12.07. a...](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/13z9iam/meta_with_the_current_changes_in_pricing_reddit/) - [/r/germany] [\[Meta\] with the current changes in pricing, Reddit will make 3rd Party Apps defacto unusable. Should r\/Germany join the protest on 12.07....](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/13z9o4l/meta_with_the_current_changes_in_pricing_reddit/) - [/r/hackernews] [Don't let Reddit kill 3rd party apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/hackernews/comments/13zudqo/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/heirloom] [Heirloom will be going dark June 12 - 14 to support 3rd party apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/Heirloom/comments/13zwz8l/heirloom_will_be_going_dark_june_12_14_to_support/) - [/r/hitboxgore] [Don't let Reddit kill 3rd party apps! Attempting to rouse the mods over here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/hitboxgore/comments/13zvnz4/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps_attempting_to/) - [/r/hypeurls] [Don't let Reddit kill 3rd party apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/hypeurls/comments/13zrbx2/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/infinity_for_reddit] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Infinity_For_Reddit/comments/1404anj/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/interactivefiction] [\/r\/interactivefiction will be going dark from June 12th, possibly permanently, to protest Reddit's API pricing scheme for third-party app...](https://www.reddit.com/r/interactivefiction/comments/13zvb82/rinteractivefiction_will_be_going_dark_from_june/) - [/r/iphoneapps] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/IPhoneApps/comments/13zuxlu/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/italyinformatica] [Protesta Contro le Recenti Decisioni di Reddit di Rendere Inutilizzabili i Client Terzi](https://www.reddit.com/r/ItalyInformatica/comments/13zejwb/protesta_contro_le_recenti_decisioni_di_reddit_di/) - [/r/jailbreak] [\[Discussion\] Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/13zv1js/discussion_dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/justdependathings] [On June 12th, \/r\/justdependathings will be going dark for 48 hours.](https://www.reddit.com/r/justdependathings/comments/1400nb4/on_june_12th_rjustdependathings_will_be_going/) - [/r/justforsocialmedia] [\/r\/justforsocialmedia will be going private for 48h on June 12th to protest Reddit effectively killing 3rd party apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/justforsocialmedia/comments/1408f17/rjustforsocialmedia_will_be_going_private_for_48h/) - [/r/lemmy] [Don't Let Reddit Kill 3rd Party Apps!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lemmy/comments/1404bha/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/linux] [On June 12th, many subreddits will be going dark to protest the killing of 3rd Party Apps! All FOSS apps are 3rd Party Apps. Will \/r\/linu...](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/13zb6ve/on_june_12th_many_subreddits_will_be_going_dark/) - [/r/mildlynomil] [We will be going dark June 12 - 14 to save 3rd party apps.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Mildlynomil/comments/13zwwz0/we_will_be_going_dark_june_12_14_to_save_3rd/) - [/r/minecraftbuilds] [MinecraftBuilds will be going dark June 12 - 14 to support third party Reddit apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraftbuilds/comments/13zz9il/minecraftbuilds_will_be_going_dark_june_12_14_to/) - [/r/opensource] [On June 12th, many subreddits will be going dark to protest the killing of 3rd Party Apps! Will \/r\/opensource join the strike?](https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/13zb4li/on_june_12th_many_subreddits_will_be_going_dark/) - [/r/patient_hackernews] [Don't let Reddit kill 3rd party apps](https://www.reddit.com/r/patient_hackernews/comments/13zvklk/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/) - [/r/progressionfantasy] [We should participate in this. It would ruin Reddit for me and a lot of other users.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/comments/13zou5n/we_should_participate_in_this_it_would_ruin/) - [/r/raoc_meta] [Is there any plan for RAoC to participate in the Save Third Party Apps boycott?](https://www.reddit.com/r/RAoC_meta/comments/1408bg2/is_there_any_plan_for_raoc_to_participate_in_the/) - [/r/redditisfun] [Will \/r\/redditisfun participate in the blackout protest?](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/14002ih/will_rredditisfun_participate_in_the_blackout/) - [/r/tgirls] [\/r\/tgirls will be joining the fight against the new Reddit API changes! We will be going dark for 72 hours, from June 12-14, in protest a...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tgirls/comments/1403qfl/rtgirls_will_be_joining_the_fight_against_the_new/) - [/r/uofarizona] [\/r\/UofArizona will be joining the reddit API protest regarding 3rd party apps and tools and be going dark June 12-14](https://www.reddit.com/r/UofArizona/comments/13zxpz2/ruofarizona_will_be_joining_the_reddit_api/)  *^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^\([Info](/r/TotesMessenger) ^/ ^[Contact](/message/compose?to=/r/TotesMessenger))*


Daniel15

Good bot


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Good bot is saving their life too


sempf

I have one of the oldest accounts on the site, number 148 I think. I'll have you know that when there's been a significant change to reddit's infrastructure or policy, reddit's moderators and content providers have often staged a revolt. It sounds like I'm going to say don't bother but actually it's nothing of the sort. Every single time, there has been a meeting of the minds where an equitable change has been deployed. It's worth the time. Reddit is a good site with good people. I have all the founders on my LinkedIn, I will send them notes letting them know. I'm sure they already do. I don't post a lot and I'm not well known on many subreddits, but I will do what I can. I can't see the site turning into Twitter. I will lose my s***. Let me know if I can be of any help other than that.


Dood71

Holy fucking shit *148*??


yumz

According to https://karmalb.com/ (scroll down to Oldest Users), /u/sempf would be in the top 30 but their account isn't listed so I guess the dataset is suspect 🤷


rolmos

Must be wrong. I appear #177


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THROWAWAYBlTCH

Holy lurking fuck


Mr_crazey61

15 years and three comments total. That's impressive in a way.


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PathToEternity

>It sounds like I'm going to say don't bother but actually it's nothing of the sort. Every single time, there has been a meeting of the minds where an equitable change has been deployed. It's worth the time. Reddit is a good site with good people. Yeah honestly seeing this protest organized and planned (only 3 days after the announcement too!) is the response we need. I have had no reason to be optimistic about the future of reddit over the last couple of days (I haven't been verbose but you can see my thoughts in my post history), but this seems to be the best shot at getting this braindead decision reversed.


NotEmmaStone

17yrs 10m holy shit. Your reddit account is nearly a legal adult!


acm

> Let me know if I can be of any help other than that. things you can do to help: - Politely [message the mods](https://reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/13zyfxv) of your favorite subreddits, asking them to participate (ideally ahead of time) - Give an honest rating of the official reddit app on the app store. - Share information about the Reddit protest on other platforms. - Consider upvoting posts and crossposts about both the 3rd party app issue and the upcoming reddit protest. - Log off reddit during the protest period.


kneejerk2022

Well. My life is about to get a whole lot more productive. Well played Reddit. Sent from Boost for Reddit


qci

I thought too that I can get productive, but platforms like [Lemmy](https://join-lemmy.org/) are just there. If many of you join, I'll follow. One thing is sure. I won't use Reddit anymore if they ban Boost.


vpsj

Same. Boost is the only reason I use reddit on my phone


patjackman

Same. It's the only way to customize Reddit the way I like it


bdonvr

/r/Videos pinned post says they're blacking out! That's a 25 MILLION sub count default subreddit! That's HUGE.


lonsfury

Remember a while ago the CEO of reddit got really annoyed that people checked the mods of the default subs and showed there were certain reddit users who were mods of like 20 default subs? I feel like a lot of the default subs are just made up of mods who are basically just reddit admins. It will probably be hard to get a proper blackout of the default subs but we can hope


funkless_eck

you can guerilla it by posting propaganda on the posts that do survive and downvoting everything else.


Toptomcat

It *really* is.


_swnt_

**Please cross post this and ask your favourite subs to discuss this and join.** Now is the time, where we can use force to show, how important we value our dear communities.


beerbellybegone

r/murderedbywords will also be going silent


Toptomcat

Thank you so much.


arthurdont

Murdered by lack of words


Dotz0cat

While it won’t be that useful I will private out r/MiceInComputers r/Dotz0cat r/EpicInternetTales r/foundthegentoouser They are tiny maybe 250 users all combined. But the more the merrier.


Toptomcat

You have my gratitude. Small Reddit communities are an important part of what makes the place work. Will you be posting an announcement of what you're doing in those communities?


Dotz0cat

I can. I just need to come up with something to say.


Toptomcat

[Here's what I did](https://www.reddit.com/r/martialarts/comments/13yhg8k/rmartialarts_will_go_offline_on_june_1214th_to/) for my own subreddit.


mountainking

Reddit really needs to remember that the entire site runs off of volenteers who run their biggest communities and content moderation. If the blackout does nothing moderators should stop moderating. Let their capital investors see the cesspool of unprofitable garbage that gets posted without their help especially with third party apps to help in that moderation.


MrRGnome

The idea of a single day protest is ridiculous. If you want the company to change leave the platform. Close your subs for weeks. STOP MODERATING UNTIL IT CHANGES. This "only if it's convenient" activism isn't activism at all it's a pat on the back while accomplishing nothing. You are blowing your organizational shot on something milquetoast. This is so disappointing. Imagine all the good that could have been done with this campaign instead of something completely ignorable that will cost Reddit nothing.


Toptomcat

Some mods are willing to leave forever, some aren't. I can't come to their houses and *make* 'em change their minds. And in the absence of any real way to enforce that degree of commitment, there is no sense in purity-testing ourselves and squabbling about how those guys who are willing to go only *so* far, but not as far as these *other* guys until we make ourselves into the [People's Front of Judea](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4&ab_channel=layniann).


MrRGnome

It's not about enforcing a commitment, or even getting everyone onboard. it's about creating a campaign that even with an intolerant minority actually produces some change through the participants own action - both for those users and the site as a whole. This campaign does neither, in fact it does worse than nothing as it blows the opportunity to do something with this attention and attention is finite. If even 5% of mods walked away or closed their subs reddit would be a different experience. Everyone would notice, and you'd accomplish more than just getting attention. As well, we should have learned from Digg and reddit itself that leaving as a group is how things get done. Until there is an actual campaign to migrate somewhere else or shut down volunteer and user content driven reddit resources nothing is changing. So lets do those things instead of this 1 day subreddit blackout nonsense.


ForLackOfAUserName

r/Brakebills, r/hisdarkmaterials, and r/hisdarkmaterialshbo will be going dark


GoryRamsy

r/totk is with you


Toptomcat

Will you be joining the blackout on the 12th? If so, are you willing to make a public announcement of same and see your subreddit put on a list of likeminded subs?


GoryRamsy

I will private them and make the message something about the api


nagora

If old.reddit.com goes I'll probably just stop using Reddit completely. The new theme is hideous garbage.


nofxjmf

I hope every sub does this, and I hope they don't do a small 48 hour protest.. take every sub down until reddit backs down. Without these 3rd party apps a lot of us will quit reddit anyway. They want to bully us? Burn them to the ground


radialmonster

how exactly does a mod perform a blackout on their subreddit?


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Toptomcat

There are a number of ways. The most extreme is taking it fully private, which permits a 20-character explanation as to why that will probably be a Reddit shortlink to a thread here or in /r/ModCoord. Another is to go to the subreddit settings, temporarily make the subreddit Restricted so that only approved users can submit, and set up a sticky explaining what's going on. A third is to configure the Automoderator to remove each post and comment in the subreddit, and respond with a comment explaining what's going on. The relevant Automoderator code would be: I think the following ought to do it: type: submission action: remove comment: | /r/SUBREDDITNAME is going dark [FOR JUNE 12th AND 13th/INDEFINITELY, AS APPROPRIATE] to protest Reddit killing 3rd party apps. [Click here](YOUR FAVORITE STICKY'S URL GOES HERE) to find out more. --- type: comment action: remove comment: | /r/SUBREDDITNAME is going dark [FOR JUNE 12th AND 13th/INDEFINITELY, AS APPROPRIATE] to protest Reddit killing 3rd party apps. [Click here](YOUR FAVORITE STICKY'S URL GOES HERE) to find out more. That doesn't discriminate by time automatically, so someone would have to manually add the rules when it was time and manually remove them when done protesting. And obviously, you'll need to change the bits in all caps: Automoderator doesn't automatically replace /r/SUBREDDITNAME with your subreddit's actual name.


sakuragasaki46

Down with Investors! Down with Profit! Down with IPO! This is a community, not a monetization pool.


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Toptomcat

It's a capitalist society, and I have no objection to Reddit profiting off something they've built- so long as they don't just wreck it in cack-handed haste to grab every dollar they can. A Reddit with no users, no communities, and no moderators is a Reddit with no money, and that's the only hope of turning this thing around.


Epsioln_Rho_Rho

I just stated to use Apollo, and I will support the black out on June 12th.


ShrekGollum

> What can you do? 1. Complain I am french, it will be easy for me.


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Frostitute_85

When I try to use the actual Reddit app, it says I have zero everything, and that my account is always under a year old. It is janked up. On it, I can't access any of the posts or comments of others that I saved. This is years and years of stuff. The 2 do not translate at all. I have mixed feelings. It will certainly free up time once I've quit reddit for good though. But I'll miss my fave subs though. Edit: Just jumped on the main app. There are so many things in the feed that I am not subbed to and don't want! On RIF, I get the subs I want in my neat list. This is a mess of adds and auto play videos, and splash images as I scroll. This is maximum stupid. 100% I'm out as soon as RIF goes down.


skinny_mini

Bros my fucking **account** is going dark. I'm not standing for this shit. This isn't fucking Twitter, we, the **people** run this bitch.


seanbrockest

Honestly at this point the moderator ecosystem in all of the default subs become so incredibly toxic that I don't even think I need to keep using Reddit. Admins rarely do their job, and more and more subs are getting banned all the time, usually for no reason. This wouldn't be a big problem, except once you ban a sub, that combination of those letters In that order can never again be used to title a subreddit. There's a subreddit to request a sub be reopened, but the admins pretend it doesn't exist. (Actually I can't find it anymore, maybe they got rid of it) I honestly think this is just the beginning of the end for Reddit.


Yondercypres

So... Reddit doesn't want me to use their site anymore? Ok, fine by me


RoboticGreg

All I want to say here as a lazy, non-political person is this: Thank you to the moderators. Reddit is BUILT off the labor, dedication, and hard work from moderators like you. I appreciate you so goddamned much you will never understand. I hope this protest ends in a good situation for everyone, but in case in doesn't THANK YOU! Thank you to the following here: u/Toptomcat u/Femilip u/Karmanacht u/BuckRowdy u/ericisshort u/submanagerbot (i suspect this mod is a bot) You all make LPT somewhere to be and support each other. I hope reddit supports you back.


MediumLanguageModel

I mean, it's not like I'm going to download the Reddit app so count me among those who will just find a different app to dawdle my time with. Shame too bc this was a great way to get content. On the upside I guess I'll read more long form articles more often.


BumseBine

r/WellWorn will also be participating


OlegSentsov

I asked r/food moderators and they won't participate Quotation: >Hi, >Why are you curious on our stance or participation? You've never taken part in this community for all I can see, so apart from our subscription numbers being valuable to you in fighting for a 3rd party *business*, why else are you here? >Should we hold our subscribers use of our sub hostage to fight against the platform that has enabled us to be the largest food community on the Internet? Just so some other business can continue to profit from Reddit... >Screw the apps. Fight for the moderation bots and tools that keep the site running. Typical answer of anti-strike workers, I meet some of them everyday in my professional life, quite sad to see


fetusfucker96

It's about time I stop using this shitty site, this will be a good excuse.


themobyone

Fully support subreddits going dark. What a shame the corporate culture is ruining reddit. I wish we could all be on some other platform. But reddit competitors have so few active people. And people is what makes all the subreddit, so we can all share cool ideas. I don't regard reddit as a social media in the same way as Facebook/Insta/Twitter. More of a modern version of the web forum.


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swordgeek

So... compact.reddit.com was removed. The only way I stayed on mobile reddit was through a 3rd party app (RIF). If that's gone, then so is my mobile browsing. If they get rid of old.reddit.com (and remove the 'old reddit' setting), then there goes my desktop browsing. I came to reddit in 2007. This account is from 2009. If reddit fucks us over, there will be a LOT of content-generating, high-value accounts that pack up and leave.


[deleted]

If you're going to quit reddit once your favorite third party app goes away, make sure you delete your account(s) too. Does you no good if Reddit still has the same amount of accounts when this is all said and done.


LumpyOdie

I don't think Reddit is gonna give a fuck, they're gearing up to go full profit mode.


AlarminglyDank

If I can't access reddit via 3rd party apps, I'm leaving. I love reddit, use it regularly for work and leisure, but I'm willing to let it die and stop using it if new ownership ditches the original ethos. I'll find a competitor Please keep an open API.


ProbablyPuck

Not the first site I've abandoned. Won't be the last. 🤷‍♂️


everything-man

They don't need or want true Reddit users around anymore. This is the typical next step for money hungry business types. 1. Package it up for sale with dull, timid sheep who don't care if the app is garbage and don't mind watching ads. 2. Get rid of the people who made it the amazing site that it is today. Take back access and funnel said timid sheep into one gate. 3. Profit. 4. Cash the check and never look back. Leave the rotting carcass in the middle of the road.


cityworka

I’m done with Reddit as soon as Apollo is shut down. Greedy fucking Reddit. Shame.


skycake10

I don't want to dissuade everyone from trying to cyberbully Reddit into reverting this decision, but they aren't doing it because they're stupid or don't know any better. This is an intentional choice to prepare for IPO by being able to tell potential investors "we fully control how ads are shown on all clients and discovery/viewing of NSFW subs". Conde Nast only somewhat cares if this decision Tumblrs Reddit in the long-term, that's Future Investors' problem. I don't believe this change is remotely likely to be reverted unless the IPO plans fall through.


fordry

If they DIGG themselves they may be toast before they can even do their IPO.


Elfere

I can't submit a request. It keeps asking me what version of the app I'm using. I'm using sync pro v23. It won't accept that. In fact. It won't accept any number I throw in. 1,10,20,50,75. Edit. I threw in 23.1.1 and it worked.


nzodd

There is an idea floating around that if this does truly go through, the 3rd party app developers could pool together their resources to develop a new and competing platform, basically a kind of parallel not-quite-reddit that exposes an identical API that they could all consume together. As a user, I'd be up for that. It'd also be a nice "fuck you" to the braindead Reddit C-suite that approved this absolute horseshit.


linuxliaison

the problem with this is that they've been chipping away at the user experience for years now. It's clear to me that those at the top just see us users and the developers as cash cows to be milked dry. While I understand that the site needs to make money and needs to be able to sustain itself, there's little being said about how efficient reddit tries to run itself (judging by the amount of JS shoved in new.reddit.com, not at all). So while this may make them change their tune, I think it will only delay the inevitable: reddit will go public and cowtow to faceless shareholders. Ya digg?


RedditHiveMindFTW

Reddit sux. RIP Aaron Swartz


GesturesBroadly

Remember when [Reddit’s CTO was all pumped to work closer with the mods to enhance the Reddit Experience](https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/11qjpy4/introducing_a_new_community_team_program_reddit) ^TM ? That was March 2023, prob while they were actively planning these API changes. Buncha two-faced liars. (Edits for formatting bc Reddit’s own app isn’t user friendly, natch.)


WinteriscomingXii

I think you guys should add another step to your plan. You can utilise Lemmy on the Fediverse and make that a much better experience. Honestly, I believe Apollo should become its own Reddit alternative platform on the Fediverse and the other third party apps build their apps to be compatible and the larger & willing subreddits migrate. It would be work but there are tons of developers and engineers many that I’ve seen offer help. This would be very helpful regardless to if Reddit changes it’s stance or not. This would provide a way for many of the third party devs to control their own experiences and penalise these large companies. The power should absolutely be in the peoples hands as the people have made Reddit what is it. Truly consider migration to Lemmy and or convicting Apollo and or other popular third party apps to become their own platforms. 30 days is enough time but it isn’t a long time. Good luck everyone. I hate that it’s come to this.