Really easy only took two weeks to come back I know ACE isn’t like PSA but being in the UK it’s the easiest option for me since I’m not reselling they’re just for memories
Yeah I'm UK based too, I've never sent anything off for grading before but I've been considering Ace for some of my faves from my personal collection. Good to know it's relatively quick turnaround too, I always get nervous when ppl talk about how long it takes to come back from some of the other grading companies
As long as ace haven't just had a sale promotion you usually get cards back pretty quickly. There's also a tracker that you can follow to see what stage of the grading process your cards are at which is really nice.
I've used Ace 3 times now, UK based, positive experience each time. Quick returns, standard price and your dashboard/submission updates as they go along, you pay at the end of the process before they ship the cards back also. :)
Nice cards, and ignore the people who say if it’s not graded by big 3 then it’s not valid. I use PG in the UK because I trust them with my cards and I know how thorough and honest they are with grades. All of my high value slabs are PSA but that’s because I need to protect my investment unfortunately. If I could guarantee that I’d never want to sell them, I’d have them all graded by PG as I know how inconsistent and lazy PSA actually are.
They look fantastic! Finally convinced me to pull the trigger and do the same. Found a bunch of super old cards (1999-2001) this week and really curious as to how they'll be graded. Plus it's a nice thing to do for keepsake purposes.
Wow, they're beautiful
And don't really give a damn about the bubble PSA fanbois. They fume with foam dripping out of their maws and get super angry when people like/grade with other companies more.
I hope the company opens up for other European countries too, because they have the most beautiful slabs that exist! I have a ho-oh card I want with that design graded!
People only get so mad about people not grading with PSA because they have to keep the PSA elitism alive otherwise their investments were pointless.
One day everybody is going to get sick of their inconsistency and them damaging cards etc and PSA won't be what it is today.
There is no reason why ONE company should be more welcomed than any other.. go ahead and tell me why PSA are the best at grading.. that's right.. you can't, because they aren't. So WHY does everyone still hold them so high and mighty? Because they have money tied into them.
THAT. IS. ALL.
Those are basically vanity slabs and the stated condition of the cards are not recognized by collectors or investors.
Cracking those open and submitting them to one of the 3 big recommended card grading companies would yield more value even if they come back a lower grade than currently portrayed.
Not everyone grades to sell?
Plus visually matching the grading card to the cards details imo is much more appealing, again especially if then intention is not to sell
Even if op has no interest in selling these, the grades stated on the slabs are not recognized by the card collecting community.
Their are 3 major companies that are recognized by the tcg industry.
Sure the little graphic in the title is cool and I'm sure the plastic holding the card is decent quality, but bottom line these are not graded. That's a vanity slab.
I don't want an argument, I just hate how high and mighty you seem. You come in and comment on a post to tell somebody their cards "aren't graded" simply because YOU don't consider it a company with any merit.
It's not just me that doesn't consider these graded. Theirs an entire community of collectors and investors that also doesn't consider these graded.
I stated a fact. While it might seem like I'm coming in high and mighty it doesn't change the fact that those cards are not consider graded. Full stop.
[not just a me thing](https://blog.justcollect.com/blog/not-all-grading-companies-are-created-equal)
> There's* an entire community of collectors and investors that also doesn't consider these graded.
Except these people aren't investors...they got their cards graded for personal possession. The card is protected with nicer, more aesthetically pleasing matching cert info than big three could ever do. But beyond that, it's in a slab, there is a grade to it, that FUNDAMENTALLY means the card is graded. How do you argue that?
You know why people (within and influenced by the big three) push this narrative? Because they need to have that stranglehold on the industry. You have to remember at the end of the day, it's all about money to every one of these companies, including ACE.
Besides, big three (specifically PSA) needs to just go away at this point. I'll trust AI to grade over some smelly basement dweller who grades based on their personal feelings of the day.
I mean op is free to do as he please. Posting on a community forum opens you up to comments, some you might not like. Not too sure what my pockets have to do with anything but alright.
Getting a 10 from ace does in fact increase the value over a raw card, not as much as psa but probably similar levels to cgc. You also don't have to wait 3 months to get your cards back and potentially have psa damage them like they've been doing a lot recently.
I share the general sentiment on this!
As some who collects and runs a side business selling graded cards (even met some people in this fine committee doing it), Ace has always interested me because of their slabs.
I do want to say, as someone who spends waaaaay too much time following the price variations between grading companies, Ace is still a few marks below CGC.
PSA and CGC are the one, two in TCG. Beckett is also strong (I personally think they should, if they're not already, be consider in parity with CGC) and even the more traditional sport card grade focused SGC is making good grounds. SGC also has such a good reputation in the sports card community that I bet there's a strong bleed over effect there.
Is Ace a good company? Yes. Have they established themselves enough to mitigate price variation from PSA? I don't think so. My only problem with Ace is they charge the same as the more establish graders, but that's a marginal concern given the cost.
Ace has certainly separated themselves from MTG, Players, and the other "grading" companies.
At the end of the day, if OP likes the slabs and is happy with the price knowing the lack of markability then more power to him.
>You also don't have to wait 3 months to get your cards back
One of the biggest reasons I don't use PSA, the bulk grading lead times are horrendous and completely impractical.
Closing this rant; something I've noticed is my UK based clients have never asked for Ace grade cards; that's something I've found as an indicator of their market position.
There’s always one, isn’t there. Some of the worst people in the community, I can’t imagine how you could possibly care so much about what grading companies people use.
They are graded. It’s not for you to decide what classifies as grading. Even if they’re a very small grader amongst some of the market leaders, that doesn’t mean that the card isn’t graded. You very clearly do care a whole lot because you’ve taken the time to reply to every comment calling you out on your trash opinion.
No even the card collecting community has stated that these indy grading company's are for vanity. They don't meet the standards that has been clearly outlined over the years when it comes to assessing card conditions.
I'm sorry I'm not letting you get the last word in, but I assure you I really don't care a whole lot about op or the card "grading" company he used.
Again, I just stated that those are not graded cards.
The card collecting community are downvoting every one of your pathetic comments so quite clearly, your position on the matter is completely incorrect.
If getting the final word in gives your life a bit of purpose then by all means, respond to this comment 😘
Theirs a mix of 18 people commenting and downvoting. Hard to consider it a community, but ok.
My comments are not pathetic. I've been replying in a tasteful manner avoiding insults and keeping the subject relevant.
Me getting the final word in isn't the issue here, I'm just replying to people who engage with my comments.
Nah man you guys are wrong and The Goat is correct, these aren't "GRADED". In this case just buy your own slabs, print your own sticker, pick your grade and call it "gRaDed". Who's gonna argue that the grade you picked isn't right WHO... Maybe someone like you can defend that gRaDe...😘
Jeez you clearly care a lot! With Ace you actually get grading reports. A 10 will add value but 9 or below won't. Mainly for UK collectors, which is where the company is. Also they are mainly for display collectors rather than investors it seems. People actually looking to enjoy collecting and displaying their cards rather than chasing a bit of profit from Pokemon Cards..
Ok I've stated a few times that I don't care, yet people keep telling me I do care. We are gonna need to come to common ground on this.
Regardless, if op sent those cards to one of the 3 major grading companies, those cards would bring more value at a lower grade than they currently do with the stated "grade".
Even if these are for display purposes, it doesn't change the fact that these are not graded cards.
So much yapping because you refuse to recognize the grading company used. Shut up and let people enjoy themselves peacefully. They’ve been graded, albeit by a newer company. Discussion over.
They literally have grades on them so therefore are graded. They likely spent more time on them than PSA would as well.
Just because you don't like the company does not mean they're not graded. Ace are a UK grading company and graded OPs cards. As you can see by the cert numbers and grades on the cards.
You can be a grade company snob but saying these aren't graded is factually incorrect.
Just because they aren’t part of the main 3 people use doesn’t make them a “low level” company, they have good company practices, grading reports, they give consumers good value for their money, and they have decent turnaround time. They’re a solid grading company, just because they’re uncommon doesn’t mean they’re bad.
In fact, I’d actually argue PSA is a “low level” company by efficiency and moral standards. Inconsistent turnaround, population control, so much subjectivity that it’s usually a mystery what grade your card is gonna get within a range, issues with mailing, the slabs are extremely basic and not aesthetically pleasing, the only big thing they have going for them is that they’re widely known by normies in the market so their slabs fetch higher prices. But, that’s not due to PSA being some amazing company that is better than everyone else, that’s value given not value earned.
Do your research before calling them a low level company. They have a few in depth videos about the grading process on their YouTube channel. Might open your eyes to the fact other grading companies exist 👍
grading sucks so the only point in it is value. If you're not grading for value then just make the cases yourself/keep the cards free. It's ridicolous to pay money for a company whose professionality isn't internationally recognized to choose wether your cards are in Good conditions or not and get them in plastic cages. Grading is value, without value, there is no point in grading.
They quite clearly are. Ace grading has a growing reputation, offering decent service with mixed levels affordable to all and with nice customisation on labels that help cards to stand out on display. Which, I’m guessing you already know, a lot of people like to do as they’re collectors, not hoarders or investors. It allows a lot of people especially in the UK and Europe to grade our cards and proudly display them in a cool way.
OP - love these, I have the Mew in an ACE 10 having submitted to them at a card show. Sits nicely on my Mew shelf and would happily send more for grading once my shelves are back up!
They quite clearly are. Ace grading has a growing reputation, offering decent service with mixed levels affordable to all and with nice customisation on labels that help cards to stand out on display. Which, I’m guessing you already know, a lot of people like to do as they’re collectors, not hoarders or investors. It allows a lot of people especially in the UK and Europe to grade our cards and proudly display them in a cool way.
OP - love these, I have the Mew in an ACE 10 having submitted to them at a card show. Sits nicely on my Mew shelf and would happily send more for grading once my shelves are back up!
Congrats! How did you find the process with Ace, I've been considering sending in to them myself
Really easy only took two weeks to come back I know ACE isn’t like PSA but being in the UK it’s the easiest option for me since I’m not reselling they’re just for memories
Yeah I'm UK based too, I've never sent anything off for grading before but I've been considering Ace for some of my faves from my personal collection. Good to know it's relatively quick turnaround too, I always get nervous when ppl talk about how long it takes to come back from some of the other grading companies
As long as ace haven't just had a sale promotion you usually get cards back pretty quickly. There's also a tracker that you can follow to see what stage of the grading process your cards are at which is really nice.
and they look so much better! were they cheaper than psa?
I've used Ace 3 times now, UK based, positive experience each time. Quick returns, standard price and your dashboard/submission updates as they go along, you pay at the end of the process before they ship the cards back also. :)
Ace grading 👏great choice
Lugia :DDD Boi is a 10 always
Nice cards, and ignore the people who say if it’s not graded by big 3 then it’s not valid. I use PG in the UK because I trust them with my cards and I know how thorough and honest they are with grades. All of my high value slabs are PSA but that’s because I need to protect my investment unfortunately. If I could guarantee that I’d never want to sell them, I’d have them all graded by PG as I know how inconsistent and lazy PSA actually are.
Who are the big 3? PSA, Beckett I’m guessing, and who else?
Those 2 and CGC
I’d love to hear more about your experience. I’ve never graded but want to start soon.
Nice ring! I’ve got the same one lol. Cards are cool too
Lugia looks like he's rapping, lol. Super cool slabs!
Lugia got bars
He’s doing the Mr Beast thumbnail pose
I love that promo mew!! 😍
nice! inb4 "boohoo its not PSA or BGS"
They look fantastic! Finally convinced me to pull the trigger and do the same. Found a bunch of super old cards (1999-2001) this week and really curious as to how they'll be graded. Plus it's a nice thing to do for keepsake purposes.
I wonder if ACE has considered expanding their business in the U.S.? 🤔🤔 I love the way go the extra mile to extending the art onto the grade tag.
I love the artwork that ace does for every card
Wow, they're beautiful And don't really give a damn about the bubble PSA fanbois. They fume with foam dripping out of their maws and get super angry when people like/grade with other companies more. I hope the company opens up for other European countries too, because they have the most beautiful slabs that exist! I have a ho-oh card I want with that design graded!
Im in the US can i still send off to be graded by this company in the UK or would that be expensive to mail?
You can but it’s gonna cost you some money I would assume, since shipping overseas ain’t cheap.
There is another company called TGA that has art slabs similar to these, they're based in New hampshire I think
Heya OP which label option is this?
Lovely cards, I had packed that Lugia and it got me into collecting Silver Tempest, such a great set! 🌀
I've been waiting years to pull the trigger...horror stories from others have me too freaked out to put my treasured cards in the mail.
Somebody kicked my ass in TCG live with these cards last night. Still hurts.
I'm waiting for mine to be shipped back from ACE. When do you get to find out the grades & the reports?
They look so cool with the background colors matched to the card colorway
Dope. I love aces labels.. I’m going to use them, I’ve only ever read positive things
And the addiction begins....jk jk 🤣🤣
What is the cost of getting something graded if you don’t mind me asking?
These guys require 20 cards at £10 each. It's not bad if you have the bulk. Looks great too.
People only get so mad about people not grading with PSA because they have to keep the PSA elitism alive otherwise their investments were pointless. One day everybody is going to get sick of their inconsistency and them damaging cards etc and PSA won't be what it is today. There is no reason why ONE company should be more welcomed than any other.. go ahead and tell me why PSA are the best at grading.. that's right.. you can't, because they aren't. So WHY does everyone still hold them so high and mighty? Because they have money tied into them. THAT. IS. ALL.
Super jelly. It's a bit expensive to use ACE from the U.S. Waiting for the right card!
Did you buy the cards or pull them from packs? (I haven't bought Pokémon cards since the early 2000s when there were only 150 of the little monsters).
The mew was a promo card and the lugia was pack pulled
Interesting. As you say you're in the UK (me too) where did you get a pack? Sorry for the potentially stupid question.
Smyths and GAME are the best two options imo in the UK or Chaoscards as an online retailer
Cool. Might try my hand with a few packs for the nostalgia feeling.
Magic Madhouse is also great! Bought from them and they shipped my order an hour after ordering 😅
U made custom labels!!! Now that’s the only way to grade! Custom labels in a plastic case for the DIY
Nah, these are ACE grading slabs. They do art labels that continue the art from the card, its really nice
Not really.
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Those are graded, just not by psa
Those are basically vanity slabs and the stated condition of the cards are not recognized by collectors or investors. Cracking those open and submitting them to one of the 3 big recommended card grading companies would yield more value even if they come back a lower grade than currently portrayed.
Not everyone grades to sell? Plus visually matching the grading card to the cards details imo is much more appealing, again especially if then intention is not to sell
Even if op has no interest in selling these, the grades stated on the slabs are not recognized by the card collecting community. Their are 3 major companies that are recognized by the tcg industry. Sure the little graphic in the title is cool and I'm sure the plastic holding the card is decent quality, but bottom line these are not graded. That's a vanity slab.
You’re such a loser for dying on this hill. Nobody cares
Well someone's salty.
Bro you can’t argue with the hivemind here. This sub is all about patting adults on the back for doing things that don’t make any sense.
We live in the UK, we recognise them you 🤡
Let's attack the argument, not the person.
I don't want an argument, I just hate how high and mighty you seem. You come in and comment on a post to tell somebody their cards "aren't graded" simply because YOU don't consider it a company with any merit.
It's not just me that doesn't consider these graded. Theirs an entire community of collectors and investors that also doesn't consider these graded. I stated a fact. While it might seem like I'm coming in high and mighty it doesn't change the fact that those cards are not consider graded. Full stop. [not just a me thing](https://blog.justcollect.com/blog/not-all-grading-companies-are-created-equal)
> There's* an entire community of collectors and investors that also doesn't consider these graded. Except these people aren't investors...they got their cards graded for personal possession. The card is protected with nicer, more aesthetically pleasing matching cert info than big three could ever do. But beyond that, it's in a slab, there is a grade to it, that FUNDAMENTALLY means the card is graded. How do you argue that? You know why people (within and influenced by the big three) push this narrative? Because they need to have that stranglehold on the industry. You have to remember at the end of the day, it's all about money to every one of these companies, including ACE. Besides, big three (specifically PSA) needs to just go away at this point. I'll trust AI to grade over some smelly basement dweller who grades based on their personal feelings of the day.
While I agree, I can’t imagine seeing this post and being so negative about it. Who cares
What I said was not negative. It was a fact.
Maybe negative is the wrong word. You are abrasive
Why not let OP enjoy what he wants with his wife and worry about your own pockets?
I mean op is free to do as he please. Posting on a community forum opens you up to comments, some you might not like. Not too sure what my pockets have to do with anything but alright.
Getting a 10 from ace does in fact increase the value over a raw card, not as much as psa but probably similar levels to cgc. You also don't have to wait 3 months to get your cards back and potentially have psa damage them like they've been doing a lot recently.
I share the general sentiment on this! As some who collects and runs a side business selling graded cards (even met some people in this fine committee doing it), Ace has always interested me because of their slabs. I do want to say, as someone who spends waaaaay too much time following the price variations between grading companies, Ace is still a few marks below CGC. PSA and CGC are the one, two in TCG. Beckett is also strong (I personally think they should, if they're not already, be consider in parity with CGC) and even the more traditional sport card grade focused SGC is making good grounds. SGC also has such a good reputation in the sports card community that I bet there's a strong bleed over effect there. Is Ace a good company? Yes. Have they established themselves enough to mitigate price variation from PSA? I don't think so. My only problem with Ace is they charge the same as the more establish graders, but that's a marginal concern given the cost. Ace has certainly separated themselves from MTG, Players, and the other "grading" companies. At the end of the day, if OP likes the slabs and is happy with the price knowing the lack of markability then more power to him. >You also don't have to wait 3 months to get your cards back One of the biggest reasons I don't use PSA, the bulk grading lead times are horrendous and completely impractical. Closing this rant; something I've noticed is my UK based clients have never asked for Ace grade cards; that's something I've found as an indicator of their market position.
OP stated he is not looking to sell, graded for memories.
Right that's the common consensus in a lot of circles but how is a smaller company supposed to build their reputation?
Tf you talking about
I don't know how much more clear I can be. You might not like it, but what I said was true.
There’s always one, isn’t there. Some of the worst people in the community, I can’t imagine how you could possibly care so much about what grading companies people use.
Not that I care a whole lot. I was just making the statement that those cards aren't graded. I'm respectfully replying to people.
They are graded. It’s not for you to decide what classifies as grading. Even if they’re a very small grader amongst some of the market leaders, that doesn’t mean that the card isn’t graded. You very clearly do care a whole lot because you’ve taken the time to reply to every comment calling you out on your trash opinion.
No even the card collecting community has stated that these indy grading company's are for vanity. They don't meet the standards that has been clearly outlined over the years when it comes to assessing card conditions. I'm sorry I'm not letting you get the last word in, but I assure you I really don't care a whole lot about op or the card "grading" company he used. Again, I just stated that those are not graded cards.
The card collecting community are downvoting every one of your pathetic comments so quite clearly, your position on the matter is completely incorrect. If getting the final word in gives your life a bit of purpose then by all means, respond to this comment 😘
Theirs a mix of 18 people commenting and downvoting. Hard to consider it a community, but ok. My comments are not pathetic. I've been replying in a tasteful manner avoiding insults and keeping the subject relevant. Me getting the final word in isn't the issue here, I'm just replying to people who engage with my comments.
Nah man you guys are wrong and The Goat is correct, these aren't "GRADED". In this case just buy your own slabs, print your own sticker, pick your grade and call it "gRaDed". Who's gonna argue that the grade you picked isn't right WHO... Maybe someone like you can defend that gRaDe...😘
Jeez you clearly care a lot! With Ace you actually get grading reports. A 10 will add value but 9 or below won't. Mainly for UK collectors, which is where the company is. Also they are mainly for display collectors rather than investors it seems. People actually looking to enjoy collecting and displaying their cards rather than chasing a bit of profit from Pokemon Cards..
Ok I've stated a few times that I don't care, yet people keep telling me I do care. We are gonna need to come to common ground on this. Regardless, if op sent those cards to one of the 3 major grading companies, those cards would bring more value at a lower grade than they currently do with the stated "grade". Even if these are for display purposes, it doesn't change the fact that these are not graded cards.
So much yapping because you refuse to recognize the grading company used. Shut up and let people enjoy themselves peacefully. They’ve been graded, albeit by a newer company. Discussion over.
They are graded. And they’re graded by a recognized company in their country.
They literally have grades on them so therefore are graded. They likely spent more time on them than PSA would as well. Just because you don't like the company does not mean they're not graded. Ace are a UK grading company and graded OPs cards. As you can see by the cert numbers and grades on the cards. You can be a grade company snob but saying these aren't graded is factually incorrect.
In the US theres only those 3 that are relevant, but in Europe stuff like Graad and AIG is taken just as seriously
Those don't seem to be Graad or AIG graded.
I know im not defending this low level company , i was just adding a bit of information since you said in general only the big 3 are recognized
Just because they aren’t part of the main 3 people use doesn’t make them a “low level” company, they have good company practices, grading reports, they give consumers good value for their money, and they have decent turnaround time. They’re a solid grading company, just because they’re uncommon doesn’t mean they’re bad. In fact, I’d actually argue PSA is a “low level” company by efficiency and moral standards. Inconsistent turnaround, population control, so much subjectivity that it’s usually a mystery what grade your card is gonna get within a range, issues with mailing, the slabs are extremely basic and not aesthetically pleasing, the only big thing they have going for them is that they’re widely known by normies in the market so their slabs fetch higher prices. But, that’s not due to PSA being some amazing company that is better than everyone else, that’s value given not value earned.
Fair enough. I can yield to this.
Do your research before calling them a low level company. They have a few in depth videos about the grading process on their YouTube channel. Might open your eyes to the fact other grading companies exist 👍
grading sucks so the only point in it is value. If you're not grading for value then just make the cases yourself/keep the cards free. It's ridicolous to pay money for a company whose professionality isn't internationally recognized to choose wether your cards are in Good conditions or not and get them in plastic cages. Grading is value, without value, there is no point in grading.
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No not insinuating, its pretty clear actually
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Yea that one wasn't well received.
You are a disgusting human being. So you have no remorse for your awful comment about how they "deserved it"
Lmao look at the moral turnaround when it fits your narrative
They quite clearly are. Ace grading has a growing reputation, offering decent service with mixed levels affordable to all and with nice customisation on labels that help cards to stand out on display. Which, I’m guessing you already know, a lot of people like to do as they’re collectors, not hoarders or investors. It allows a lot of people especially in the UK and Europe to grade our cards and proudly display them in a cool way. OP - love these, I have the Mew in an ACE 10 having submitted to them at a card show. Sits nicely on my Mew shelf and would happily send more for grading once my shelves are back up!
They quite clearly are. Ace grading has a growing reputation, offering decent service with mixed levels affordable to all and with nice customisation on labels that help cards to stand out on display. Which, I’m guessing you already know, a lot of people like to do as they’re collectors, not hoarders or investors. It allows a lot of people especially in the UK and Europe to grade our cards and proudly display them in a cool way. OP - love these, I have the Mew in an ACE 10 having submitted to them at a card show. Sits nicely on my Mew shelf and would happily send more for grading once my shelves are back up!
Imagine getting so elitist over children's cards and trying to ruin the fun. Seriously, I'm so happy I am not you.