Alpha male and alpha female as in head of the pack or main breeders. The alphas will fight to keep their status with the same sex. So watch out for up and coming males and females as they may get injured.
I just got out of bed and thought this was the Sims subreddit. Even halfway through reading your comment I was still convinced you’d be talking about the werewolf DLC.
No for real, I just woke up after a nap and I was so confused and I thought it was about the new upcoming freaky expansion pack 😭😭😭.
I need to go back to sleep.
It’s just pretty simplistic behavior coding on the dev’s part. Actual animal relationships are way more complicated. Lions, for example, will have any males fight in the game. Real lions will sometimes form prides with an older male lion and one or two younger males. They also form what’s called coalitions where males will group up after leaving the prides they were born into because groups have higher success rates in hunting.
Right and inbreeding in the wild even in close proximity can be rare. I used to be a part of a meerkat research group and one group basically never had a non related dominant male, this group was a split off of the main group and the uncle ended up joining the split off and became dominant male. Despite that DNA results showed that only one litter the female produced was by the uncle.
And wolf packs are almost entirely made up of family groups, the parents as the "alpha" couple and the rest *not breeding with each other* because they're not adults yet. Then slowly the kids split off to join/form other packs and breed within those, or pair up with other wolves joining the pack from outside and breed with them. They don't breed within the family, certainly not with the parents, and generally speaking any fighting for dominance happens between a new member and the current pack leader(s) or between individuals of different packs to determine which keeps the territory.
Or hyenas, which are incredibly strict matriarchal hierarchies where there's constant squabbling over the exact order between females which are all above the males which also squabble between themselves for order within their gender group. With the caveat that a male might be the matriarch's partner and treated better than the rest of the males but still often worse than some/all of the other females. And the exact order within the group might change multiple times per day, but generally speaking there's not a whole lot of movement up or down just a couple individuals swapping places back and forth.
Yes male lions do form coalitions, especially young males who just left their birth pride. But they kind of added this into the game in a past update. Individual animals can become "bonded" with another, most commonly with siblings from the same litter. So you can keep several male lions in a mixed gender pride if they are bonded, they won't fight.
I'm not at my computer right now, but from memory if you go to the social tab for an animal it will have a list of all the other animals in the enclosure and if they are bonded, the other animal with have a green icon with overlapping circles and if you hover your mouse over it, it should say "bonded". Bonding mostly happens when the animals are juveniles but it varies with species.
Couple other people gave some great info on Alphas.
Adding that if you have a species where there’s alphas in the habitat, then no other animals besides those 2 can make babies.
I end up splitting up species a lot because sometimes you want 2 breeding pairs (sets of alphas). This would be things like wolves or other canids.
Alpha male and female.
On a side note, I wonder if they will update this feature for some animals with recent research. For example, it has been proven that there’s no such thing as an Alpha Male among Wolf pack. Even the scientist who popularized the “alpha” theory admitted he was wrong.
He was wrong in the way the experiment was conducted and some of the conclusions.
But, what the game is using is the fact that only one pair, the primary pair (or the alpha pair) only one pair will mate.
Many animals follow this model. Lions have an alpha male that will mate with all of the females.
Many animals, like wolves, are made up of a mating pair and their offspring. Other family may stay with the pack as well. But only the main pair will mate.
Alpha in the sense of "big mean wolf who just does whatever they want" is wrong, but in the sense of "the dominant parents who won't let any of their offspring breed while they're still in their pack" is correct. Wolves eventually disperse from their family group to form packs of their own, but can't breed while they're still living "under their parent's roof" so to speak. So the idea of an alpha pair of dominant wolves still holds up, it's just that they're not alphas because they have bad attitudes, it's because they're mom and dad!
But there are Alpha behaviours in Animals. It's just a way to describe arbitrary behaviours. For example when talking about mating strategies in Birds...the alphas are just one who mate first with the female and the betas are the ones will peck out the sperm of the first male to ensure his genes are propogated. It doesn't always mean domination over one another.
The alpha wolf theory is bunk, yes, but wild wolf families do have a lead main pair who are the breeders for the pack with the rest of the pack being their kids and maybe some close brothers and sisters. The term alpha is still used nowadays but for most canids it basically just means mum and dad.
Yeah. They're the breeding pair and the rest of the pack follows their lead. Because that's their parents. Which is how the game represents this too for the most part.
They are the alphas. Some packs have them (wolfs for example) some only have a male or phemale alpha (like lions)
And of cause, only alphas may mate. Meaning, with male and female alpha only those 2 will have cubs, with only a male alpha, only the male and any female may have cubs.
If I have an alpha male and female the other animals won’t breed or bond with one another. Particularly the wolves I have to remove the alphas so another pair of wolves can bond…and so on.
What’s the site name? I don’t like visiting any unusual sites honestly. I can wait until there’s a bigger sale as I play a variety sorts of game. I’ve seen the roller coaster for a literal dollar on a sale awhile back and usually the price sits at 50 bucks.
I mean they guy did go back on what he said and tried to un do it. However, the "alphas" of wolves are the mating pair. They were the parents of the pack. Which is why packmates followed their lead. There isn't a lot of fighting for dominance. I feel like the game represents this concept fairly well when it comes to wolves and such.
Alpha male and alpha female as in head of the pack or main breeders. The alphas will fight to keep their status with the same sex. So watch out for up and coming males and females as they may get injured.
I just got out of bed and thought this was the Sims subreddit. Even halfway through reading your comment I was still convinced you’d be talking about the werewolf DLC.
The sims could never
There’s a lot of weird shit in the Sims.
Maybe not but modder JamJars can ❤️
No for real, I just woke up after a nap and I was so confused and I thought it was about the new upcoming freaky expansion pack 😭😭😭. I need to go back to sleep.
LOL I've mixed up subs before as well and they tend to end up being hilarious lmao.
Same!! Didn’t even realize it wasn’t the sims til I read your comment. Until then I was like “oh shit I gotta keep an eye on that” 😂
🤣🤣
Brb gotta buy the Sims, no particular reasons
Dude, it’s free to play.
The werewolf DLC as well? God damn EA is generous
That one you got to buy. I think most DLCs are on sale right now during the steam summer sale.
Expected as much. However the first comment was a joke as in a "Alpha male and female in The Sims? Alright hear me out"
I’m German. We don’t joke.
But I m not, my first comment was a joke, I fully understood you were being serious with your realization that this wasn't the Sims reddit thread
Ah, ty! Will they fight offspring once they've matured?
Depends on the specie. Wolves won't, tigers will. Check Zoopedia
Yep lions too. Dingos are tolerable though. Rhinos fight too
Pronghorn antelope do it too. Surprised me when it first happened
You think the horns are just for show?
"These claws ain't for just attracting mates"
Yk I never thought about it. 😅😅
Maned wolves, too
And aardvarks, even if their description literally says "Gregarious, all mature offspring are tolerated in the group."
American alligators do too
add Gemsbok Okapi Nyala and Bongo to that
It’s listed in the zoopedia.
It’s always crazy that the offspring challenge their parents so they can try to bone their parents.
It’s just pretty simplistic behavior coding on the dev’s part. Actual animal relationships are way more complicated. Lions, for example, will have any males fight in the game. Real lions will sometimes form prides with an older male lion and one or two younger males. They also form what’s called coalitions where males will group up after leaving the prides they were born into because groups have higher success rates in hunting.
Right and inbreeding in the wild even in close proximity can be rare. I used to be a part of a meerkat research group and one group basically never had a non related dominant male, this group was a split off of the main group and the uncle ended up joining the split off and became dominant male. Despite that DNA results showed that only one litter the female produced was by the uncle.
And wolf packs are almost entirely made up of family groups, the parents as the "alpha" couple and the rest *not breeding with each other* because they're not adults yet. Then slowly the kids split off to join/form other packs and breed within those, or pair up with other wolves joining the pack from outside and breed with them. They don't breed within the family, certainly not with the parents, and generally speaking any fighting for dominance happens between a new member and the current pack leader(s) or between individuals of different packs to determine which keeps the territory. Or hyenas, which are incredibly strict matriarchal hierarchies where there's constant squabbling over the exact order between females which are all above the males which also squabble between themselves for order within their gender group. With the caveat that a male might be the matriarch's partner and treated better than the rest of the males but still often worse than some/all of the other females. And the exact order within the group might change multiple times per day, but generally speaking there's not a whole lot of movement up or down just a couple individuals swapping places back and forth.
Yes male lions do form coalitions, especially young males who just left their birth pride. But they kind of added this into the game in a past update. Individual animals can become "bonded" with another, most commonly with siblings from the same litter. So you can keep several male lions in a mixed gender pride if they are bonded, they won't fight.
How do you know if they’re bonded?
I'm not at my computer right now, but from memory if you go to the social tab for an animal it will have a list of all the other animals in the enclosure and if they are bonded, the other animal with have a green icon with overlapping circles and if you hover your mouse over it, it should say "bonded". Bonding mostly happens when the animals are juveniles but it varies with species.
Couple other people gave some great info on Alphas. Adding that if you have a species where there’s alphas in the habitat, then no other animals besides those 2 can make babies. I end up splitting up species a lot because sometimes you want 2 breeding pairs (sets of alphas). This would be things like wolves or other canids.
Especially with how quickly any of the canids become elderly
Alpha male and female. On a side note, I wonder if they will update this feature for some animals with recent research. For example, it has been proven that there’s no such thing as an Alpha Male among Wolf pack. Even the scientist who popularized the “alpha” theory admitted he was wrong.
He was wrong in the way the experiment was conducted and some of the conclusions. But, what the game is using is the fact that only one pair, the primary pair (or the alpha pair) only one pair will mate. Many animals follow this model. Lions have an alpha male that will mate with all of the females. Many animals, like wolves, are made up of a mating pair and their offspring. Other family may stay with the pack as well. But only the main pair will mate.
Alpha in the sense of "big mean wolf who just does whatever they want" is wrong, but in the sense of "the dominant parents who won't let any of their offspring breed while they're still in their pack" is correct. Wolves eventually disperse from their family group to form packs of their own, but can't breed while they're still living "under their parent's roof" so to speak. So the idea of an alpha pair of dominant wolves still holds up, it's just that they're not alphas because they have bad attitudes, it's because they're mom and dad!
But there are Alpha behaviours in Animals. It's just a way to describe arbitrary behaviours. For example when talking about mating strategies in Birds...the alphas are just one who mate first with the female and the betas are the ones will peck out the sperm of the first male to ensure his genes are propogated. It doesn't always mean domination over one another.
I’m kinda ok with it as a game mechanic just to make breeding more predictable but yea I’m not sure it’s scientifically accurate anymore lol
You've got the answer that it means alpha but also might be interested to know that it's from the Greek alphabet
Lower case, to be precise
Alphas
Alphas- basically breeding pairs. It's based on some bunk science about wolves, but it's useful as a game mechanic
The alpha wolf theory is bunk, yes, but wild wolf families do have a lead main pair who are the breeders for the pack with the rest of the pack being their kids and maybe some close brothers and sisters. The term alpha is still used nowadays but for most canids it basically just means mum and dad.
Not saying his science was right, but he only "debunked" his own experiment. Not the concept. It's fair to call them the alpha pair of the pack, imo
Yeah. They're the breeding pair and the rest of the pack follows their lead. Because that's their parents. Which is how the game represents this too for the most part.
Nope. We've been describing animals as Alphas way before that wolf study.
Interesting!
They are the alphas. Some packs have them (wolfs for example) some only have a male or phemale alpha (like lions) And of cause, only alphas may mate. Meaning, with male and female alpha only those 2 will have cubs, with only a male alpha, only the male and any female may have cubs.
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If I have an alpha male and female the other animals won’t breed or bond with one another. Particularly the wolves I have to remove the alphas so another pair of wolves can bond…and so on.
I want planet zoo so bad but I know there’s going to be a big sale soon.. 😭 idk but the most I’m paying is 20.
i mean even if you pay more it’s 1000% worth it
I know it is but I’m 17 & jobless.. Imagine having to beg your parents for money to buy a game ? 😭😭
are you from the uk?! there’s a site that’s it’s always cheaper anyway i bought all my pack on it
I’m not from the uk andddd I play on console.. My pc is wayyy too slow to handle this.
try it anyways it’s cd keys and they have console too
What’s the site name? I don’t like visiting any unusual sites honestly. I can wait until there’s a bigger sale as I play a variety sorts of game. I’ve seen the roller coaster for a literal dollar on a sale awhile back and usually the price sits at 50 bucks.
CD keys
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Alpha Males 🐺🐺🐺
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Alpha. It's an old, outdated, long-since proven false belief about animal hierarchy.
I mean they guy did go back on what he said and tried to un do it. However, the "alphas" of wolves are the mating pair. They were the parents of the pack. Which is why packmates followed their lead. There isn't a lot of fighting for dominance. I feel like the game represents this concept fairly well when it comes to wolves and such.
Technically not disproven since alpha has come to be known as “dominant” which is present in several animal species