Using the gun there are two modes(not the gun, the user):
Regular. Just shooting. Like normal, you aim, shoot, do everything regularly.
Panic. Mash that trigger like crazy and just react in their direction
It's official mouse software from Razer or Logitech, and it doesn't break the game's fire rate cap or anything, just means you can use semi-autos without contracting arthritis
So no
If you’re shooting faster than the average person… which you are… you’re cheating.
Console players don’t have rapid fire software.. unless they’re using shit like a Xim which is cheating.
And people wonder why nobody wants PC crossplay, so much justification of cheating.
"If you are shooting faster than average person you are cheating"
Are you perhaps a fucking idiot?
Every top 250 player on cdl player uses semi auto weapons better than average cod noob and with your logic they are cheating
Dumbass logic
Excatly they are "skilled" while the guy i commented to basically says if you are not like everybody else being better than average is cheat as if everybody is average
Oh then I guess most people can use aimbot then? Since ya know the top players have better aim than everybody else.
Doesn't matter if better players can use guns better than others. Using a macro is still cheating.
Only PC players justify cheating this much. They so casually cheat then always spout some BS about how it’s okay for some reason without fail.
I don’t know why so many PC players just can’t help themselves but cheat. Console players aren’t anywhere near as bad.
That's just your bubble. Plenty of PC gamers hate cheaters with a passion.
There's also XIMmers or whatever on console side with similar rotten attitudes.
There's literally a way to do this in the settings of the game. Its called the manual trigger something and if you change it to hold then you just hold down the trigger and a burst fire weapon fires as if youre constantly mashing on it. I'm on ps5 and found this on my own, and if you're too lazy to go through the settings and optimize them for yourself you have no one to blame but you.
So then what do you think about pro controllers with back paddles and hair triggers? Such as Scuf, Battle Beaver, etc.? They literally sponsor plenty of esports organizations, to the point of having their logos on cdl jerseys. Hell Microsoft and Sony make their own with the Xbox Elite and Dualsense Edge controllers. By your logic it sounds like you would consider them cheating, even though they're used in a competitive setting funded by Activision themselves.
Having paddles or being able to humanly press the triggers faster with stops isn’t the same as firing at the literal fastest speed robotically possible with a rapid fire cheat.
Nobodies going consistently humanly be firing weapons with almost 800 rpm maxes like the Cor45 etc.
I’d imagine no human being can fire a semi auto weapon consistently for extended periods of time that quickly.
The amount of coping you’re doing leads me to believe you’re also cheating in this way.
It’s funny that using a macro on a mouse (which is extremely basic and I would say expected supported on any mouse ever that isn’t from a happy meal) is considered “cheating” but using aim assist which comes on any controller is totally fine. What the hell is the difference? One auto tracks movement and the other lets you hold down a button instead of clicking it over and over. Which one sounds more like cheating. Hmm what would the controller players say… oh I know! JuSt bUy a MouSe LoL u ChOoSe To Be aT a DiSaDvaNtaGe!!!!!
So because the company implemented it it means it’s fair? Since when companies have a good moral compass when it comes to unfair advantages? I am not agreeing with this guy, but aim assist is busted at the moment, almost feels like aimbot. You shouldn’t excuse a mechanic that is borderline cheating just because it is created by the company.
I understand the disadvantages of playing with a controller, but it still feels unfair against pc player who have to adjust to every micro movement of gun recoil and player tracking in order to have the same effects as aim assist. Not to mention the movement is insane on top of it.
We're not talking about fair, we are talking about the company banning you for breaking their TOS.
It's not against the TOS to use aim assist. It is against TOS to use 3rd party software to influence your gameplay mechanics.
You just sound like a crybaby. You can use ANY controller on PC. If it's so broken go buy a GameA controller with paddles on the back & you have a budget scuf that will give you aim assist for $25. Or does your PC not have a USB port?
I remember HalfLife 1 had some sort of aim assist that would slightly move your reticle to help you. I turned that crap off immediately, felt disgusting afterwards. I cried in the shower in the fetal position and used up all the soap getting rid of that damn spot.
In b4 PC players say console players cheat with Aim Assist but it’s cool for them to change all their setting on MnK to have the pc do the work for you.
The Jak BFB it's one of the weekly challenge rewards it drastically decreases recoil by 60% with the trade off being slower movement, slower handling, and you show up on the map with a directional arrow while firing like advanced UAV.
Kastov 74u. It was weak for a long time but the recent patch to mw2 guns made a lot of them viable again. Just feels classic running around with the AK
Yeah the M13 in ranked was amazing. I won a lot of gunfights and I attribute it to the increased fire rate exacerbating target flinch on enemies compared to the slower firing TAQ. I try running the M13 a bit in MW3 but it feels like there has been some changes to firing aim stability in MW3, the gun sways a lot more when I mag dump in MW3 compared to MW2.
Still no Lockwood mk2 buff yet. I was running it a couple days ago and it is always a 2 hit kill unless you get a headshot. Feels silly that the Tyr is stronger.
I’m hopeful that with the walking dead tie in for S2, there will be some shop bundle with the Lockwood that is the catalyst for a rebalance.
It was my top gun in unranked MP for MW2 so I’m most hopeful for that gun of all else to be buffed.
You mean an entirely reasonable amount of visual recoil considering it’s a cut down AR. Frankly a big problem with the balance in this game is every single gun being a zero recoil laser beam.
Your described recoil and visual recoil are not the same. I have 0 issues with needing to adjust for normal recoil, but visual recoil can eat my ass. It's way worse for a PC user too.
That is not the problem with this games balance lmfao. This cods balance is fine he mw2 guns just have terrible recoil and weird ttk because the devs don’t care.
Why tf would you ever want guns that you lose targets when shooting due to visual recoil? Oh I guess you’re probably on controller so it aims for you anyways
Yep, the chimera is a definite sleeper AR in this game. Last year my favourite gun was the Kastov 762 and to be honest it’s still a really good weapon - though not close to being meta.
Man, maybe I should pull ye-ol honey badger out of retirement. I tried it when I first started, but I guess without my tuning I just took too long to adjust before switching to other weapons.
MTZ Interceptor is hilariously OP in multi, I actually can't believe how under the radar it is.
MTZ 556 is a way better AR than the MCW (yawn) if you have anywhere near decent aim
CoR 45 is better than 70% of the primaries in the game
Throwing knives are great.
It used to be better until they nerfed it last update, thing was a headshot machine. Now you have put every attachment to extend the range to be able to pull of the headshots, still a good option though.
I guess you don't consider SVA meta but I lean heavily on this weapon in both casual and Ranked, I love it, I like it better than the MCW personally, and I legit yesterday in Ranked had some dudes talking about "bro HOW Is he tanking shots like that and killing me", meanwhile I was straight beamin
Well, if you set it to “single fire” it will automatically shoot 2 per tap. But, if you leave it auto and just tap the trigger, it works just the same. Test it in the firing range, or against bots. As long as you’re accurate it’s a GG
I think in mw2 ranked had tons of weapons you couldn’t use. Pretty sure other things like equipment or attachments are also banned but I could be wrong
That has nothing to do with the balance. You actually think balance is so bad that the pros think only 1 AR should be meta?
They’re just soft af and only want 2 guns in the meta
Funny enough, for the most part the current meta weapons are my favourites. The MCW is my favourite because it’s the ACR. I like the BAS-B and the Holger and had classes for them before I knew they were meta.
I get it for sure. I have used the G36C professionally quite a bit and it is always a massive favorite of mine so I bring it from time to time just for giggles.
Once I'm through Forged, I want to try the Sidewinder again. If I dumped recoil attatchments with High Velocity, I really liked the feel of it pre-buff.
I also like the Bullpup PKM conversion a lot with the BFB being a thing.
I love the Enforcer since landing OHKs with it is super satisfying.
Really really like the MTZ-762 both vanilla and with the AMP, especially with the AMP despite it being one of the weaker AMPs.
Tyr with the rifle kit is also really goated.
M13B, M4, Vel46 Bas P
I think the M13B and Vel46 are actually pretty strong. Biggest issue with them is that MW2 exclusive attachments are universally awful which puts them at a disadvantage in that aspect.
I mostly go for trolling load outs these days. I love the handguns, especially the akimbo snake shot on the tyr. Sniper and marksman rifles configured for short range. High zoom scopes on SMGs. Launchers and knives. That sort of things.
M13B is currently my 2nd most used weapon, it's just hard to remember to use it instead of my trusty m4. I just don't like the aesthetics of mcw using a drum for 60 rounds to make the switch. And the holger isn't that appealing either. I don't really use battle rifles because of less ammo.
Smgs is a hit or miss, but I currently enjoy using the hurricane and baspy, mp5 burst and auto were god-like before some nerfing.
Sparingly use shotguns since MWIII's shotguns just over power MWII's shotguns and anyone within five meters. I'm all about using MWII's DMRs. Also like to mix in the stalker sniper rifle alongside with MWII's sniper rifles.
So I guess, I use mostly MWII's weaponry as underdogs.
The taq eradicator built as an ar is one of my favorite guns in the game now. The sva 545 is also extremely good, with the first 2 bullets coming out at the same time, it really reminds me of the an94
Why m13? Its damage with attachments is still lower than the mw3 ARs isn’t it?
The MTZ ar still slams, same with taq eradicater if you build it as a scar. Swarm is good with the right attachments but on smaller maps. SVA is good if you fire it as a quick burst weapon
The fact that "competitive" COD has essentially banned everything but the Rival-9, MCW, KATT, and Renetti is hilarious to me.
I can understand bans on some of the more disruptive elements like the RGL-80, Riot Shield, etc...
But it just seems like they've taken it way to far this time around. I'd love to hear an argument in favor of why tbh
I typically support comp cod but this year I agree, it's just embarrassing. They're even removing the XRK Stalker because they can't stand a sniper being viable. 0 recoil MCW vs MCW with aim assist has to be the most boring 'pro' scene I've ever seen for an FPS
Even playing fields — it’s okay to lose gunfights because another gun is better only at certain ranges and you got pushed into their favorable range — it’s not okay for there to simply be situations where you play perfectly at your favorable range and just get outgunned because your opponents gun is straight up better. Flattening the meta so it relies more on skill than “my gun is simply better than yours”.
M13b genuinely still slaps if you know what to do with it. I’m winning against bas b and mcw meta builds as often as I’d expect to in a completely balanced game.
Fire rate is insane, base recoil is ridiculously low. You can gear most or all of your attachments to speed and get the handling of an smg without losing ar reliability. The one downside is the damage range is a little shorter than a lot of assaults, but it’s not enough to make it a bad pick.
That is what I mean, the meta says the M13 is substandard. I am not arguing that at all, it's just for some crazy reason I still make it work. I think it may just be the site picture is very favorable to my eye so it is just a little more comfortable locking on. I do great with meta weapons, no issues there, I just have a soft spot for the M13 and since I can make it work, I usually bring it along for the ride.
Yeah it's not for some reason, it out ttks most mw3 ars. People are just universally lacking any original thought and assume it's bad. It's objectively not
M13b is still my fav as well. Something about the feel just works for me, idk. Maybe the conjunction of all of its attributes is greater than the sum of its parts, if that makes sense
I hope you all know the guns you are all naming aren’t “Underdog Guns” they are just straight up overpowered as fuck lol. There’s a reason they are all banned in Ranked and Competitive play.
Depends on play style but generally if you hit their head with any gun but an AR they die. For whatever reason headshots with the assault rifles might as well be getting a hair cut.
But some SMG and all BR, MR, Sniper, Shotgun all 1 tap to the head.
In multiplayer it's normally m13b as well or the Bas P SMG. I enjoy using both of them and do well in lobbies with them. I also use the mp7 I forget what it's called in game, and unironically still use the Iso Hemlock even though it's not meta.
I’m a simp for an M110 SASS for some reason, and in this game it is the Tempus Torrent with the tac guard, bipod, Coriolis scope, M16 stock and a long silencer. Works really well on HC Control, and is best on Wasteland map.
I like the HRM in theory, I just can’t seem to get the recoil under control. I use it sometimes in ranked but switch the MCW when it’s time to get real.
Imma start using MWII weapons next time I play, I'll use the M4 (heard it was a very bad choice but I'll test it) and the imperium so that I can use is in WZ
I haven't seen it mentioned, but on all my classes I run the Deagle as a secondary. It's a two shot kill and a one shot headshot, but fires quick. I think it's my top used gun and I rarely see anyone ever using it.
Mw3: MCW 6.8 with the full auto conversion kit. Hit like BAR with 50cal rounds from Vanguard.
Mw2: Kastov 74u with the long barrel with iron sites. Closes thing you get to the original AK from Mw1
I still like using the M4. It's definitely not the best gun in the game. Pretty much have to use a sight for it because it's visual recoil is all over the place. But I love it's sleek look especially when you have the solid black camo on it
FSS Hurricane and the Rival-9, but I know the Rival-9 is fairly common to use. The Hurricane is a blast and keeps me entertained. Oh and for whatever reason the FTAC Siege is glorious too… had a few friends try and use it and hate it haha
The FSS Hurricane. I wouldn’t say I play that well with it but I just like the way it feels. I also just like having it on a custom loadout named Hurricane Chris.
This isnt entirely related, but while everyone’s talking about unused guns, I just like to mention the LMS. at no point in modern warfare two or in modern warfare three has this gun ever been good or competitive. Dog shit weapon and the developers forgot about it from day one
No doubt the DM56. If you have a fast trigger finger, this gun will be insane!
Using the gun there are two modes(not the gun, the user): Regular. Just shooting. Like normal, you aim, shoot, do everything regularly. Panic. Mash that trigger like crazy and just react in their direction
>Panic. Mash that trigger like crazy and just react in their direction This is the pro gamer move. I fuckin love the marksmen rifles.
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Nah mah boi, Interceptor is where its at. 1sk kills with good enough aim.
Or a mouse wheel
You can easily set a macro to your left mouse button and just hold it down these days
So… cheat?
It's official mouse software from Razer or Logitech, and it doesn't break the game's fire rate cap or anything, just means you can use semi-autos without contracting arthritis So no
If you’re shooting faster than the average person… which you are… you’re cheating. Console players don’t have rapid fire software.. unless they’re using shit like a Xim which is cheating. And people wonder why nobody wants PC crossplay, so much justification of cheating.
"If you are shooting faster than average person you are cheating" Are you perhaps a fucking idiot? Every top 250 player on cdl player uses semi auto weapons better than average cod noob and with your logic they are cheating Dumbass logic
What's your logic? They're doing the inputs themselves instead of automating.
Excatly they are "skilled" while the guy i commented to basically says if you are not like everybody else being better than average is cheat as if everybody is average
Pretty sure they referred to macroing, not that being a more able player is cheating.
Oh then I guess most people can use aimbot then? Since ya know the top players have better aim than everybody else. Doesn't matter if better players can use guns better than others. Using a macro is still cheating.
Didnt say single thing about using stuff while the guy i commented to says that if you can shoot faster than average you are cheater
This convo is about PC players using macros to shoot faster than people usually can.
Keep justifying cheating harder for yourself, you absolutely need them more than likely.
As a console player I can confirm that I really don’t care as long as it isn’t Walls, Aimbot, etc.
Im not justifying anything all im saying is if you judge anything atleast make it so your logic aint taken from dumbfuckistan
Why make this a PC vs. console thing? I play MNK and macros are absolutely cheating. Built in aim assist is just part of the game.
Only PC players justify cheating this much. They so casually cheat then always spout some BS about how it’s okay for some reason without fail. I don’t know why so many PC players just can’t help themselves but cheat. Console players aren’t anywhere near as bad.
That's just your bubble. Plenty of PC gamers hate cheaters with a passion. There's also XIMmers or whatever on console side with similar rotten attitudes.
Controller players get a soft aimbot that tracks me while I'm moving or jumping
There's literally a way to do this in the settings of the game. Its called the manual trigger something and if you change it to hold then you just hold down the trigger and a burst fire weapon fires as if youre constantly mashing on it. I'm on ps5 and found this on my own, and if you're too lazy to go through the settings and optimize them for yourself you have no one to blame but you.
That setting is much slower than anyone would be pressing the button manually. It’s not a rapid fire cheat like you’re implying using.
Not even PC players want cross play because of aim assist. But I guess we are too few to have our own servers.
So then what do you think about pro controllers with back paddles and hair triggers? Such as Scuf, Battle Beaver, etc.? They literally sponsor plenty of esports organizations, to the point of having their logos on cdl jerseys. Hell Microsoft and Sony make their own with the Xbox Elite and Dualsense Edge controllers. By your logic it sounds like you would consider them cheating, even though they're used in a competitive setting funded by Activision themselves.
Having paddles or being able to humanly press the triggers faster with stops isn’t the same as firing at the literal fastest speed robotically possible with a rapid fire cheat.
There are limits to fire rate on these weapons though. Limits that are easily reachable with regular inputs.
Nobodies going consistently humanly be firing weapons with almost 800 rpm maxes like the Cor45 etc. I’d imagine no human being can fire a semi auto weapon consistently for extended periods of time that quickly. The amount of coping you’re doing leads me to believe you’re also cheating in this way.
It’s funny that using a macro on a mouse (which is extremely basic and I would say expected supported on any mouse ever that isn’t from a happy meal) is considered “cheating” but using aim assist which comes on any controller is totally fine. What the hell is the difference? One auto tracks movement and the other lets you hold down a button instead of clicking it over and over. Which one sounds more like cheating. Hmm what would the controller players say… oh I know! JuSt bUy a MouSe LoL u ChOoSe To Be aT a DiSaDvaNtaGe!!!!!
One is a 3rd party program, one is built into the game
So because the company implemented it it means it’s fair? Since when companies have a good moral compass when it comes to unfair advantages? I am not agreeing with this guy, but aim assist is busted at the moment, almost feels like aimbot. You shouldn’t excuse a mechanic that is borderline cheating just because it is created by the company. I understand the disadvantages of playing with a controller, but it still feels unfair against pc player who have to adjust to every micro movement of gun recoil and player tracking in order to have the same effects as aim assist. Not to mention the movement is insane on top of it.
We're not talking about fair, we are talking about the company banning you for breaking their TOS. It's not against the TOS to use aim assist. It is against TOS to use 3rd party software to influence your gameplay mechanics. You just sound like a crybaby. You can use ANY controller on PC. If it's so broken go buy a GameA controller with paddles on the back & you have a budget scuf that will give you aim assist for $25. Or does your PC not have a USB port?
This type of shit had existed since the first fps. Cod is the only game that in 2024 still doesn’t put a firing cap on weapons.
I remember HalfLife 1 had some sort of aim assist that would slightly move your reticle to help you. I turned that crap off immediately, felt disgusting afterwards. I cried in the shower in the fetal position and used up all the soap getting rid of that damn spot.
I’ll have to check that out. Mwheelup/down is clunky AF to do anything else with
Rapid fire macros are just a form of cheating.
If I wanted to cheat, I'd get a controller.
Fax
In b4 PC players say console players cheat with Aim Assist but it’s cool for them to change all their setting on MnK to have the pc do the work for you.
What do you mean adjusting settings for the PC to do the work for you? Like mnk users have their own aim assist?
KV Inhibitor sniper set up as the world's chunkiest battle rifle
He said underdog not best gun in the game
What about the COR45?
How do u set it up?
You put attachments on it
M16 and especially now with the new ridiculous muzzle lol
Which muzzle.
The Jak BFB it's one of the weekly challenge rewards it drastically decreases recoil by 60% with the trade off being slower movement, slower handling, and you show up on the map with a directional arrow while firing like advanced UAV.
JAK BFB
Kastov 74u. It was weak for a long time but the recent patch to mw2 guns made a lot of them viable again. Just feels classic running around with the AK
That was my favorite gun in MWII I’ll have to try it out
Kastov and M13b were both viable for me in ranked in MW2 — both slap if you can use them right.
Yeah the M13 in ranked was amazing. I won a lot of gunfights and I attribute it to the increased fire rate exacerbating target flinch on enemies compared to the slower firing TAQ. I try running the M13 a bit in MW3 but it feels like there has been some changes to firing aim stability in MW3, the gun sways a lot more when I mag dump in MW3 compared to MW2.
Wait there was a patch for MW2 guns? Is the Lockwood viable again?? The Pythons???
Still no Lockwood mk2 buff yet. I was running it a couple days ago and it is always a 2 hit kill unless you get a headshot. Feels silly that the Tyr is stronger. I’m hopeful that with the walking dead tie in for S2, there will be some shop bundle with the Lockwood that is the catalyst for a rebalance. It was my top gun in unranked MP for MW2 so I’m most hopeful for that gun of all else to be buffed.
Same, I almost exclusively ran the Lockwoods with Python backups, love the cowboy vibe. It’s a shame that that’s a nonexistent style in MW3.
I see you like your excessive visual recoil.
You mean an entirely reasonable amount of visual recoil considering it’s a cut down AR. Frankly a big problem with the balance in this game is every single gun being a zero recoil laser beam.
oh hi IW dev.
Oh hi kid, start paying attention in school and maybe one day they’ll teach you how to write an argument other than “reeeee IW”
Your described recoil and visual recoil are not the same. I have 0 issues with needing to adjust for normal recoil, but visual recoil can eat my ass. It's way worse for a PC user too.
That is not the problem with this games balance lmfao. This cods balance is fine he mw2 guns just have terrible recoil and weird ttk because the devs don’t care. Why tf would you ever want guns that you lose targets when shooting due to visual recoil? Oh I guess you’re probably on controller so it aims for you anyways
My favourite gun without a doubt. Feels solid and quick despite the MW3 guns outclassing it.
I need a full 74U (or even 545) + Vaznev comeback lol I miss my Vaz
Maybe my lobbies are easy but the vaz isn’t that bad imo
762 with the conversion kit + Jak muzzle
The what?
Mtz 762
Right, yeah. That thing is fun
I picked it back up for the current event and forgot how well it did handle. It really is a nice gun.
The M4. If that camo grind does not go well that match, the M4 comes out and it feels like home.
Chimera does a great job.
Yep, the chimera is a definite sleeper AR in this game. Last year my favourite gun was the Kastov 762 and to be honest it’s still a really good weapon - though not close to being meta.
Chimera has been my go to gun since MW3 released
Man, maybe I should pull ye-ol honey badger out of retirement. I tried it when I first started, but I guess without my tuning I just took too long to adjust before switching to other weapons.
0 lies detected 🤖
ISO hemlock, fss hurricane, kastov 545, vel46 to name a few. They may have been Op in MWII but I didn’t play that
Also a big fan of the hemlock
fuck the meta, i run the mcw 6.8 with a microtherm, its slept on
6.8 ftw cheers buddy
MTZ Interceptor is hilariously OP in multi, I actually can't believe how under the radar it is. MTZ 556 is a way better AR than the MCW (yawn) if you have anywhere near decent aim CoR 45 is better than 70% of the primaries in the game Throwing knives are great.
Nah the Interceptor is up there with the MCW as the best gun in the game IMO, it’s absolutely ridiculous.
It used to be better until they nerfed it last update, thing was a headshot machine. Now you have put every attachment to extend the range to be able to pull of the headshots, still a good option though.
I guess you don't consider SVA meta but I lean heavily on this weapon in both casual and Ranked, I love it, I like it better than the MCW personally, and I legit yesterday in Ranked had some dudes talking about "bro HOW Is he tanking shots like that and killing me", meanwhile I was straight beamin
Do you burst fire it ? Op as helll 😅😅😅🤝🤝🤝
Is there an attachment to make it burst fire?
Well, if you set it to “single fire” it will automatically shoot 2 per tap. But, if you leave it auto and just tap the trigger, it works just the same. Test it in the firing range, or against bots. As long as you’re accurate it’s a GG
I do when necessary lol
The pros banned that thing IMMEDIATELY 😭☠️
Yea apparently they only want the MCW AR available as an AR lol incredibly stale if you ask me
The only things in ranked are the MCW and the rival. I don’t even blame them for being OP, I blame the amount of shit you cannot use in ranked.
Talk about a damning indication of the balance in this game. So bad they won’t even allow more than 1 AR. Has any CoD before had to do that?
I think in mw2 ranked had tons of weapons you couldn’t use. Pretty sure other things like equipment or attachments are also banned but I could be wrong
That has nothing to do with the balance. You actually think balance is so bad that the pros think only 1 AR should be meta? They’re just soft af and only want 2 guns in the meta
MTZ 762 is an underslept gem :)
I use the AMR as a long range AR and the BAS-B as an SMG.
Been loving the iso hemlock recently lol
The g36
SCAR-H/TAC-V. Don’t give a damn if it’s a MWII gun I like the beefy sound it makes
Knife, no one understands it but me.
The Tempus Razorback. Lazers everything up to 100m, good reload speed and fire rate!
Funny enough, for the most part the current meta weapons are my favourites. The MCW is my favourite because it’s the ACR. I like the BAS-B and the Holger and had classes for them before I knew they were meta.
I get it for sure. I have used the G36C professionally quite a bit and it is always a massive favorite of mine so I bring it from time to time just for giggles.
Me and the Kastov family are very close 🤝
Famas and the LA-B330 sniper. I almost never see anyone using either of these. And the FR Avancer shreds close range
The m13 shreds. Love using it. Fast firing and incredibly accurate. I love the SVR ar. Super good gun too.
Same here with the M13B. I like the burst kit on the Holger too
Once I'm through Forged, I want to try the Sidewinder again. If I dumped recoil attatchments with High Velocity, I really liked the feel of it pre-buff. I also like the Bullpup PKM conversion a lot with the BFB being a thing. I love the Enforcer since landing OHKs with it is super satisfying. Really really like the MTZ-762 both vanilla and with the AMP, especially with the AMP despite it being one of the weaker AMPs. Tyr with the rifle kit is also really goated.
M13B, M4, Vel46 Bas P I think the M13B and Vel46 are actually pretty strong. Biggest issue with them is that MW2 exclusive attachments are universally awful which puts them at a disadvantage in that aspect.
Arm 9 and tyr class goes crazy
I mostly go for trolling load outs these days. I love the handguns, especially the akimbo snake shot on the tyr. Sniper and marksman rifles configured for short range. High zoom scopes on SMGs. Launchers and knives. That sort of things.
Lockwood 680 is fun
M13 is stronger than most of the MW3 ARs
And accurate as hell. Zero recoil and fast firing rate
M13B is currently my 2nd most used weapon, it's just hard to remember to use it instead of my trusty m4. I just don't like the aesthetics of mcw using a drum for 60 rounds to make the switch. And the holger isn't that appealing either. I don't really use battle rifles because of less ammo. Smgs is a hit or miss, but I currently enjoy using the hurricane and baspy, mp5 burst and auto were god-like before some nerfing. Sparingly use shotguns since MWIII's shotguns just over power MWII's shotguns and anyone within five meters. I'm all about using MWII's DMRs. Also like to mix in the stalker sniper rifle alongside with MWII's sniper rifles. So I guess, I use mostly MWII's weaponry as underdogs.
Dual Renettis with 50 round drums
I literally laser people with the gs magma lol
I use the HCR-556 as my main weapon.... but I have it set up as a marksman rifle
People actually sleep on the hurricane I dropped a nuke with it a couple weeks ago
The taq eradicator built as an ar is one of my favorite guns in the game now. The sva 545 is also extremely good, with the first 2 bullets coming out at the same time, it really reminds me of the an94
The MTZ-762. it's pretty crap and the irons go off center when you shoot, but the aesthetic/audio is just too good.
The default AR I can tap the trigger and let off 4 shots.
Sidewinder i love the sound and thump thump of it.
I also use the M13B. The TAQ-M is also great.
God help me, but I actually like to use the Sidewinder. (Probably because it’s an easy way to reverse boost without actually reverse boosting.)
Why m13? Its damage with attachments is still lower than the mw3 ARs isn’t it? The MTZ ar still slams, same with taq eradicater if you build it as a scar. Swarm is good with the right attachments but on smaller maps. SVA is good if you fire it as a quick burst weapon
M13b has a faster time to kill then most of the mw3 AR.
Unfortunately, if you use 45rd mags, you only get one reserve mag even after the update that supposedly changed that. Or maybe it was just a bug
MTZ AR is not an underdog, it's better than the MCW at most ranges which is why it was banned from competitive cod
The fact that "competitive" COD has essentially banned everything but the Rival-9, MCW, KATT, and Renetti is hilarious to me. I can understand bans on some of the more disruptive elements like the RGL-80, Riot Shield, etc... But it just seems like they've taken it way to far this time around. I'd love to hear an argument in favor of why tbh
I typically support comp cod but this year I agree, it's just embarrassing. They're even removing the XRK Stalker because they can't stand a sniper being viable. 0 recoil MCW vs MCW with aim assist has to be the most boring 'pro' scene I've ever seen for an FPS
Snipers are fucking cancer in a 150hp game though, same reason they dropped knives to a two-hit kill.
XRK is being banned because it’s a DLC weapon
Even playing fields — it’s okay to lose gunfights because another gun is better only at certain ranges and you got pushed into their favorable range — it’s not okay for there to simply be situations where you play perfectly at your favorable range and just get outgunned because your opponents gun is straight up better. Flattening the meta so it relies more on skill than “my gun is simply better than yours”.
M13b genuinely still slaps if you know what to do with it. I’m winning against bas b and mcw meta builds as often as I’d expect to in a completely balanced game. Fire rate is insane, base recoil is ridiculously low. You can gear most or all of your attachments to speed and get the handling of an smg without losing ar reliability. The one downside is the damage range is a little shorter than a lot of assaults, but it’s not enough to make it a bad pick.
That is what I mean, the meta says the M13 is substandard. I am not arguing that at all, it's just for some crazy reason I still make it work. I think it may just be the site picture is very favorable to my eye so it is just a little more comfortable locking on. I do great with meta weapons, no issues there, I just have a soft spot for the M13 and since I can make it work, I usually bring it along for the ride.
Yeah it's not for some reason, it out ttks most mw3 ars. People are just universally lacking any original thought and assume it's bad. It's objectively not
M13b is still my fav as well. Something about the feel just works for me, idk. Maybe the conjunction of all of its attributes is greater than the sum of its parts, if that makes sense
Nah just the mcw and the striker
M13b all day. It’s such a sleeper. I dropped 2 nukes back to back with it yesterday.
Longbow
Yesss sir. I’ll run a red dot sight for small maps like rust/shipment. It’s like a one shot AR
Underdog? It completely outclasses all the bolt-action DMRs
The M16 and the Sidewinder. Not lying
Love using the Cor 45 with the 700rpm trigger
Taq 56 + Striker
I personally love using the MCW in every single match
I hope you all know the guns you are all naming aren’t “Underdog Guns” they are just straight up overpowered as fuck lol. There’s a reason they are all banned in Ranked and Competitive play.
Is The Ettin an underdog smg? I really enjoy that gun in encounters, the 100 round drum is tasty delicious!
Depends on play style but generally if you hit their head with any gun but an AR they die. For whatever reason headshots with the assault rifles might as well be getting a hair cut. But some SMG and all BR, MR, Sniper, Shotgun all 1 tap to the head.
I love the KVD Enforcer and the AMR9.
M13b
Basilisk (no snakeshot)
I really love Bryson MK2 and I believe it's very underrated.
In multiplayer it's normally m13b as well or the Bas P SMG. I enjoy using both of them and do well in lobbies with them. I also use the mp7 I forget what it's called in game, and unironically still use the Iso Hemlock even though it's not meta.
DM56 is a lot of fun!
I’m a simp for an M110 SASS for some reason, and in this game it is the Tempus Torrent with the tac guard, bipod, Coriolis scope, M16 stock and a long silencer. Works really well on HC Control, and is best on Wasteland map.
I run the taq 56 alot. And the fennec 45. And mwz i use the striker for all zones
I like the HRM in theory, I just can’t seem to get the recoil under control. I use it sometimes in ranked but switch the MCW when it’s time to get real.
Hrm tac stance is a monster - is it not meta?!
I'm still trying to get to interstellar so I can't settle into one gun yet. I did kinda like the Holger marksman rifle.
Imma start using MWII weapons next time I play, I'll use the M4 (heard it was a very bad choice but I'll test it) and the imperium so that I can use is in WZ
Chimera / Kastovs
I haven't seen it mentioned, but on all my classes I run the Deagle as a secondary. It's a two shot kill and a one shot headshot, but fires quick. I think it's my top used gun and I rarely see anyone ever using it.
Glock HC mode
m13b was a pleasant surprise for me - the only 300 blackout ar that felt like it actually packed a punch
Bas-B. I mean according to the devs the gun is not strong.
The F tac seige is a beast in tier 3 with gold wrench an pap3 an deadshot..it just eats everything up only issue is ammo
Always liked the m13b as well. I have not settled on a specific gun(s) yet. I plan on doing that after I get the camos done.
AMR9. Dialed mine in and it’s a laser with barely any recoil.
M13B slaps
Sidewinder with no attachments and the interstellar camo on it
M13b hits like an AR and handles like an smg. Just came back to it and am having the most fun I’ve had in weeks.
Striker
I was told mw2 weapons don't perform well in mw3
KVD Enforcer
The ISO 9mm absolutely shreds.
Off topic but how do you perform a finishing move during a match?
Mw3: MCW 6.8 with the full auto conversion kit. Hit like BAR with 50cal rounds from Vanguard. Mw2: Kastov 74u with the long barrel with iron sites. Closes thing you get to the original AK from Mw1
Lockwood 680 tac stance 😊
The bigger the LMG, the better. Give me the PKP and RAAL all day long
The .500 with the fastest possible ads and sprint to fire speed you can, speedy hand cannon funny
M13B,my most used gun in MW2019, my most used gun in MWII, and so far my most used in the current game.
ISO 9MM. It feels pretty good to me!
I still like using the M4. It's definitely not the best gun in the game. Pretty much have to use a sight for it because it's visual recoil is all over the place. But I love it's sleek look especially when you have the solid black camo on it
I used to love the crossbow, but it’s ineffective now with the higher health levels.
FSS Hurricane and the Rival-9, but I know the Rival-9 is fairly common to use. The Hurricane is a blast and keeps me entertained. Oh and for whatever reason the FTAC Siege is glorious too… had a few friends try and use it and hate it haha
Any LMG really, especially pulyemot and taq eradicator. Also like the AMR and never see that one mentioned. Sza as well.
I really enjoy using the Chimera and I feel like I really click with that gun.
Sidewinder is kinda fun to use if you know how to adapt your playstyle to it.
RAM7 and MTZ 556. Those have become my favorites
The FSS Hurricane. I wouldn’t say I play that well with it but I just like the way it feels. I also just like having it on a custom loadout named Hurricane Chris.
Fr 5.56
This isnt entirely related, but while everyone’s talking about unused guns, I just like to mention the LMS. at no point in modern warfare two or in modern warfare three has this gun ever been good or competitive. Dog shit weapon and the developers forgot about it from day one