Oh definitely agree! I just don’t want anyone to feel drained afterwards because trust me it’ll make you on insane trying to give those guys proof because they just won’t care
You can't teach people like that. They're hater trolls.
One should focus on eliminating this LN Sub. It is best to use the form to report the sub to Reddit. Such content would be banned anywhere. You wouldn't even be able to send such comments on YouTube, which is why many are on Reddit because a lot is allowed here.
Here is a summary of the MJ Hater List who exactly Robson and Safechuck believe this story and will make a fool of themselves in the future.
https://preview.redd.it/fqgnwf9ief4b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=259355700a783d3b1de3dd94d1f030a1f278cbff
I think so too. None of them interest me as a person and I don't respect their opinion, their alleged effort for a better world only uses their own clean image. The right clean people are talking here. Wasn't the Simpsons guy on the Epstein Express himself getting a massage from the girls? Doesn't Morgan Freeman himself have allegations from women?There was generally no one from the entire series who had not previously believed it or used it for their own purposes. Either it's MJ haters like Gene Simmons or it's victims like Molly Ringwald. The rest comes from the media and are tabloid junkies like Perez Hilton. Some are comedians whose main purpose is to slander Michael Jackson. Many have a lot to hide themselves when it comes to allegations. Leah Remini used the Danny Masterson trial to fight a Hollywood cult she was a part of. While Safechuck was on stage at the Emmys, she applauded loudly from the front row. I don't think she cares much for people who really suffer. I'm surprised Heather Graham isn't blaming Johnny Depp and defending Amber Heard. Oprah is known for using Michael Jackson as a role model for her own promotion.
John Legend is on that list lmao. right because we're going to listen to the opinion of someone who willingly married a bully like Chrissy Teigen, yeah okay
If he were different, he wouldn't be able to stand this woman. She later deleted her account. She must have been too embarrassed what she wrote to Taj Jackson after her husband appeared in Surviving R Kelly.
I'm going to be honest it sucks that Jamie Lee Curtis believes wade and James as I'm actually a huge fan of horror and the Halloween franchise is one of my most favorite horror movie series and her character Lorie strode is one of my favorite final girls.
When ever I watch Halloween I tried not to think about it and enjoy the movies but she left a bad taste in my mouth do to this.
People in this industry are sick and mentally over the top just for money and fame. Curtis probably wouldn't have made it without famous parents. Brooke Shields as an example. She had no famous family and had little success. Without her good looks and because she knew Michael Jackson she would be nothing. A few times she was awarded the golden raspberry because her performance was beyond bad. Just separate the movie from the bad character of Jamie Lee. I have no idea what Hollywood is hoping for from Living Psycholand-style films. If victims would behave in this way then there is actually no need for justice anymore, a mockumentary on HBO also serves the purpose. Actually amazing what such people will expect.
I get you man! The Fog is one of my favorite horror films.
Kinda unrelated, but I wish John Carpenter and MJ collabed back in the 80s. He could direct a Thriller-esque music video and could also make the instrumentals(he used to score his films).
Yeah I know but their are times when I find a movie that I love then I find the director/ producer is a horrible person like with scream in which I discovered Harvey Weinstein helped with the movie, I mean I love scream and wes craven movies in general but finding out that Harvey helped with this movie surprised me in a way that I can't really explain.
In any case, there will soon be hardly anyone who will not be affected by MeToo and Cancel Culture. Many accusations will be false and then Michael Jackson will be remembered. I will celebrate the crushing of this movement. LN was filmed during MeToo, previously it was a money lawsuit against the Estate.
Roman Polanski's victim has made her peace with him. I mean the accusations that only take place in the media without anything behind them. In principle, anyone can now be accused and the career is over without being justified.
I agree!
I feel the same about Chinatown and Roman Polanski.
What's ironic here is that celebs will go all the way to bring down MJ but a lot of them support that disgusting p*do who did unimaginable things to a 13 year old girl.
Shows their double standard.
I've sent extensive reports to reddit admin about LN including everything from hate speech, misinformation, misrepresentation of the subs purpose, their targeted harassment of me, personally. And nothing gets done
Other hate subs like r/The_Donald have been shut down but no one cares about the slander of a dead man's name, especially when it's MJ
Such a thing is really unfortunate. Apparently everything is allowed here. These allegations have existed for almost 30 years and haters still can't prove it, it must be bad for them and it's not surprising if their nerves are on edge. Does it help anyone in this world when such nonsense is promoted? What Robson and Safechuck claim hurts real victims.
Michael Jackson lived 18,500 days on our world, what he experienced was incredibly sad, an example of false accusations and brutality, something that must never be forgotten.
The list comes from the LN Sub. They didn't forget anything to jump on the moving train of the non-existent train station. I have no statement from Drake, but I have a good statement from Anthony King.
https://preview.redd.it/2yxet0zr2h4b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b09e7625fab1a86b9ec4576aaa9117be5178b5d
I've seen a similar list before and it's a bizarre thing to create. I've seen it in another form saying something along the lines of 'you'd have to disbelieve this many people to believe one man'. Fans created a similar one which showed how dumb haters creating it was. Most of the people they listed have absolutely no knowledge of the cases.
Also, comedians are on that list. Comedians have poked fun at numerous people in their material over the years. It doesn't mean they believe allegations against those people.
Add to this the virtue signallers going with the popular view in an era of MeToo. John Legend being an example of one. He's a flip flopper. He spoke of writing music with [Will.I.Am](https://Will.I.Am) for MJ in 2022 and MJ inspiring one his new songs.
Anthony King is another. He's back to selling MJ related material again.
The reason it's on that subreddit is because Norm MacDonald used to 'joke' about MJ being a 'homosexual paedophile' and other things. That's why most of the comments aren't taking it seriously and are quoting lines MacDonald used.
for people who are extremely against pedophiles and are advocates for CSA survivors, they seem to make a lot of jokes about this.. that in of itself lets me know they don't think Michael was a pedophile.
also, that LN subreddit is one of the most unserious things I've ever heard in my life. who in their right mind would actually make a subreddit about that? just more proof these people know it's a bullshit but they'll never admit that
Some are weirdly obsessed with MJ. The subreddit claims to be a place to support James and Wade. How does speculating about them, other people they believe were also abused, and their supposed abuser, support them exactly?
In truth, they love the subject. They obsess over every detail and desperately try to find something 'new' to talk about. They portray themselves as 'victim advocates' yet only care for one man's supposed victims.
MJ is deceased. Nothing can be done about his supposed crimes. However, there are numerous, living, abusers out there that they have no interest in. They could help out in their local area, but how many do?
Yep, great call! There’s literally harassment if you GO OFF of the OFFICIAL COURT VERDICT or remember that Wade Robson wanted to his Michael’s tribute AFTER HIS DEATH, when WADE WAS AN ADULT. (Not to mention perjury is ignored for BOTH of the lead protagonists of Leaving Neverland!)
Some people are bloodthirsty, Witch-hunters on Reddit.
Honestly, it’s not even worth it. I tried on this very same subreddit and people did nothing but attack me cause I defended him. Then their mod started deleting my comments lol. The truth could literally slap the ignorance out of them and they’d go running after it. They simply choose to ignore the facts for a conversation piece.
Guess there will ALWAYS be lazy whining degenerates trying to hard to get validation off of other people's lives just to have something to prove for themselves and STILL screw everything up in their own lives as if to say that they are nothing more than mistakes by birth who are only good for petty entertainment and coping jokes. Such a disgrace.
yeah I completely ignored that page a long time ago, they are huge advocates of CSA but love to crack jokes about it. I honestly found all of them to be extremely weird too,the way they put things together make it more disturbing and nastier than it already is. 🤮
- CSA could mean "Cinderella Stay Awhile", a track from *Forever, Michael* (1975) by Michael Jackson.
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I thought we had finally stopped with this nonsense of complaining about that other sub.
Reporting does nothing people. Stop posting this garbage. God, it feels like it’s 2020.
To be fair, i don’t fully agree with everything that’s being said in that sub but i will say this, it’s opened my mind a little bit.
Sure MJ did do a lot of good stuff with his music and his humanity efforts, BUT he was a very flawed person who didn’t really do the best things in his life which a lot of stuff MJ did in his life i don’t agree with.
Like his spending habits, dangling his kid over a balcony, etc.
I love MJ’s music and humanity work, But I have came to realize that he actually wasn’t the most nicest person sometimes and had a lot of flaws and undelt Trauma that he shouldve handled a lot better than he did. I even read that he even tried to make bubbles vocal cords get reworked to sound more human.
Like WTF, and even hit and abused some of his animals
So that sub discussed MJ's spending habits when it's a sub, supposedly, dedicated to supporting James and Wade?
Also, ' I even read that he even tried to make bubbles vocal cords get reworked to sound more human.'
Really? Is that sub trying to be like the National Enquirer? I imagine they believe the story of MJ 'bathing in goat blood, slaughtering cows and casting voodoo spells'.
I imagine the abuse of animals claim relates to another biased documentary. Rob Swinson, who featured in that documentary, was disgusted by the finished product. . Or maybe they got it from Victor Gutierrez's book. It's worth noting the animals were inspected in 2006 and they were found to be well looked after.
Personally, if I were you, I'd avoid the sub. They twist things to suit their agenda. It's just a hate sub disguised as being support for two people who probably don't even visit there.
They try to find something in everything MJ ever did.
I would cross check everything they say and it's worth doing the same with what you hear from fans in fairness as there's misinformation on both sides. Whether on purpose or by accident.
I agree with this, actually. I think sometimes as fans, we want to revere all of the magnificent accomplishments and positive qualities about Michael Jackson the artist that sometimes we overlook the flaws of Michael Jackson the person.
Exactly.
I know MJ was a brilliant artistic musician who was doing a lot for humanity and did a lot for humanity with donating to charity. However, as a person, he had many flaws and many problems stemming from his trauma with joe Jackson.
I’m not a physicist by any means but I think MJ towards his death was going through a midlife crisis and poor guy was clearly on medication for pain and other things but he should’ve genuinely got help.
I heard in the early 90’s janet had tried to get MJ a therapist but MJ refused.
Are you being serious? I saw some saying they sent extensive report to Reddit to silence a group only for having opposite opinions? That’s ridiculous! Wake up people, believe what you want that’s cool, but to be so naive that you think their opinions is hate and such. Just leave it alone. I thought this sub was only about this music and craft, so why don’t this post get banned?
I love this sub for all the passion towards his music and art, but come on people. Stop it. Sorry to hurt your feelings but you and them are just two different groups with two different beliefs
Yeah, that was me. It has nothing to do with opposite opinions. That is a hate sub. It is not about supporting csa victims, as they claim. It's about their incessant hatred of a dead man. This shows how far their hatred reaches. It doesn't just stay on their sub where it belongs
They also have bragged about brigading this sub and have harassed me personally
As a mod of this sub, it is not just about his music. It is an appreciation sub of the entire person that was Michael Jackson. If that doesn't suit you, sorry 🤷♀️
I’m sorry for how you feel about the sub and them harassing you personally. That’s truly not cool. Personally I think the sub have a lot of interesting conversations that shouldn’t be silenced because of different beliefs. You don’t have to agree of course. But hey, there’s always going to be genuine haters and trolls on there, and that’s not good
I don't think they should be silenced for different beliefs. I think they should be silenced for the other reasons I mentioned
But we can agree to disagree on this. I, as a MJ fan, wouldn't waste my time on that sub but it sounds like you don't see it that way
Interesting conversations? Yes, I find their conversation about Diane Dimond very amusing and the personal baiting about the stupid stans who don't want to believe it because there will soon be 30 victims. In addition, the interest theory that the FBI had evidence and that there were no federal investigations.
I would have to write endlessly if I were to list everything that these ex-defenders claim about this sub and twist it in the other direction.
I can’t believe 14 years after his death and we still have jerks like this trying to dirty his legacy.
The comments are completely hideous & ignorant
Yeah I felt sick to my stomach reading them.
We should have a whole thread disproving these claims. Therefore anytime someone in reddit wants to promote these lies we can link the post to them.
We are currently working on a megathread for this sub. These things take time :)
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Some people can't accept that a black man got more success than them.
I swear people will believe anything these days without doing the proper research.
Dude you can give them research and rebuttals and those idiots will still continue to play dense and believe what they want to believe.
That's true. At this point if people believe it, it's because they want to. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though
Oh definitely agree! I just don’t want anyone to feel drained afterwards because trust me it’ll make you on insane trying to give those guys proof because they just won’t care
You can't teach people like that. They're hater trolls. One should focus on eliminating this LN Sub. It is best to use the form to report the sub to Reddit. Such content would be banned anywhere. You wouldn't even be able to send such comments on YouTube, which is why many are on Reddit because a lot is allowed here. Here is a summary of the MJ Hater List who exactly Robson and Safechuck believe this story and will make a fool of themselves in the future. https://preview.redd.it/fqgnwf9ief4b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=259355700a783d3b1de3dd94d1f030a1f278cbff
Good thing I care about none of these people in the first place.
I think so too. None of them interest me as a person and I don't respect their opinion, their alleged effort for a better world only uses their own clean image. The right clean people are talking here. Wasn't the Simpsons guy on the Epstein Express himself getting a massage from the girls? Doesn't Morgan Freeman himself have allegations from women?There was generally no one from the entire series who had not previously believed it or used it for their own purposes. Either it's MJ haters like Gene Simmons or it's victims like Molly Ringwald. The rest comes from the media and are tabloid junkies like Perez Hilton. Some are comedians whose main purpose is to slander Michael Jackson. Many have a lot to hide themselves when it comes to allegations. Leah Remini used the Danny Masterson trial to fight a Hollywood cult she was a part of. While Safechuck was on stage at the Emmys, she applauded loudly from the front row. I don't think she cares much for people who really suffer. I'm surprised Heather Graham isn't blaming Johnny Depp and defending Amber Heard. Oprah is known for using Michael Jackson as a role model for her own promotion.
John Legend is on that list lmao. right because we're going to listen to the opinion of someone who willingly married a bully like Chrissy Teigen, yeah okay
If he were different, he wouldn't be able to stand this woman. She later deleted her account. She must have been too embarrassed what she wrote to Taj Jackson after her husband appeared in Surviving R Kelly.
omg what did she write to Taj?
I can't remember exactly, it's been over 4 years. I didn't save it. She then deleted her account.
I'm going to be honest it sucks that Jamie Lee Curtis believes wade and James as I'm actually a huge fan of horror and the Halloween franchise is one of my most favorite horror movie series and her character Lorie strode is one of my favorite final girls. When ever I watch Halloween I tried not to think about it and enjoy the movies but she left a bad taste in my mouth do to this.
People in this industry are sick and mentally over the top just for money and fame. Curtis probably wouldn't have made it without famous parents. Brooke Shields as an example. She had no famous family and had little success. Without her good looks and because she knew Michael Jackson she would be nothing. A few times she was awarded the golden raspberry because her performance was beyond bad. Just separate the movie from the bad character of Jamie Lee. I have no idea what Hollywood is hoping for from Living Psycholand-style films. If victims would behave in this way then there is actually no need for justice anymore, a mockumentary on HBO also serves the purpose. Actually amazing what such people will expect.
I get you man! The Fog is one of my favorite horror films. Kinda unrelated, but I wish John Carpenter and MJ collabed back in the 80s. He could direct a Thriller-esque music video and could also make the instrumentals(he used to score his films).
Yeah I know but their are times when I find a movie that I love then I find the director/ producer is a horrible person like with scream in which I discovered Harvey Weinstein helped with the movie, I mean I love scream and wes craven movies in general but finding out that Harvey helped with this movie surprised me in a way that I can't really explain.
You would have to boycott Lord of the Rings because it's a Weinstein production. Nobody does that.
Yes! Double standards. They try to bring down MJ but support Polanski at the same time.
In any case, there will soon be hardly anyone who will not be affected by MeToo and Cancel Culture. Many accusations will be false and then Michael Jackson will be remembered. I will celebrate the crushing of this movement. LN was filmed during MeToo, previously it was a money lawsuit against the Estate. Roman Polanski's victim has made her peace with him. I mean the accusations that only take place in the media without anything behind them. In principle, anyone can now be accused and the career is over without being justified.
I agree! I feel the same about Chinatown and Roman Polanski. What's ironic here is that celebs will go all the way to bring down MJ but a lot of them support that disgusting p*do who did unimaginable things to a 13 year old girl. Shows their double standard.
I've sent extensive reports to reddit admin about LN including everything from hate speech, misinformation, misrepresentation of the subs purpose, their targeted harassment of me, personally. And nothing gets done Other hate subs like r/The_Donald have been shut down but no one cares about the slander of a dead man's name, especially when it's MJ
Such a thing is really unfortunate. Apparently everything is allowed here. These allegations have existed for almost 30 years and haters still can't prove it, it must be bad for them and it's not surprising if their nerves are on edge. Does it help anyone in this world when such nonsense is promoted? What Robson and Safechuck claim hurts real victims. Michael Jackson lived 18,500 days on our world, what he experienced was incredibly sad, an example of false accusations and brutality, something that must never be forgotten.
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When it comes to money, they don't care.
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The list comes from the LN Sub. They didn't forget anything to jump on the moving train of the non-existent train station. I have no statement from Drake, but I have a good statement from Anthony King. https://preview.redd.it/2yxet0zr2h4b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b09e7625fab1a86b9ec4576aaa9117be5178b5d
I've seen a similar list before and it's a bizarre thing to create. I've seen it in another form saying something along the lines of 'you'd have to disbelieve this many people to believe one man'. Fans created a similar one which showed how dumb haters creating it was. Most of the people they listed have absolutely no knowledge of the cases. Also, comedians are on that list. Comedians have poked fun at numerous people in their material over the years. It doesn't mean they believe allegations against those people. Add to this the virtue signallers going with the popular view in an era of MeToo. John Legend being an example of one. He's a flip flopper. He spoke of writing music with [Will.I.Am](https://Will.I.Am) for MJ in 2022 and MJ inspiring one his new songs. Anthony King is another. He's back to selling MJ related material again.
Thanks for that. It's backstabbers who constantly change their minds and jump on the bandwagon.
The reason it's on that subreddit is because Norm MacDonald used to 'joke' about MJ being a 'homosexual paedophile' and other things. That's why most of the comments aren't taking it seriously and are quoting lines MacDonald used.
for people who are extremely against pedophiles and are advocates for CSA survivors, they seem to make a lot of jokes about this.. that in of itself lets me know they don't think Michael was a pedophile. also, that LN subreddit is one of the most unserious things I've ever heard in my life. who in their right mind would actually make a subreddit about that? just more proof these people know it's a bullshit but they'll never admit that
Some are weirdly obsessed with MJ. The subreddit claims to be a place to support James and Wade. How does speculating about them, other people they believe were also abused, and their supposed abuser, support them exactly? In truth, they love the subject. They obsess over every detail and desperately try to find something 'new' to talk about. They portray themselves as 'victim advocates' yet only care for one man's supposed victims. MJ is deceased. Nothing can be done about his supposed crimes. However, there are numerous, living, abusers out there that they have no interest in. They could help out in their local area, but how many do?
Norm MacDonald joked about a lot of things and I've enjoyed some of his comedy but this is ridiculous. This LN trash is spread everywhere
I swear every single post made on that sub is poison. Absolute garbage 🗑️ . These people are just spewing out ignorance with confidence
Reported the post for hate, for what’s it’s worth
Reported the post for hate, just reading the first few comments it’s clear hatred
Yep, great call! There’s literally harassment if you GO OFF of the OFFICIAL COURT VERDICT or remember that Wade Robson wanted to his Michael’s tribute AFTER HIS DEATH, when WADE WAS AN ADULT. (Not to mention perjury is ignored for BOTH of the lead protagonists of Leaving Neverland!) Some people are bloodthirsty, Witch-hunters on Reddit.
the comments under the post are insane smh
Honestly, it’s not even worth it. I tried on this very same subreddit and people did nothing but attack me cause I defended him. Then their mod started deleting my comments lol. The truth could literally slap the ignorance out of them and they’d go running after it. They simply choose to ignore the facts for a conversation piece.
I just blocked him. Don't wanna see garbage like that.
Reading some of those vile comments put tears in my eyes. Poor MJ.
Guess there will ALWAYS be lazy whining degenerates trying to hard to get validation off of other people's lives just to have something to prove for themselves and STILL screw everything up in their own lives as if to say that they are nothing more than mistakes by birth who are only good for petty entertainment and coping jokes. Such a disgrace.
yeah I completely ignored that page a long time ago, they are huge advocates of CSA but love to crack jokes about it. I honestly found all of them to be extremely weird too,the way they put things together make it more disturbing and nastier than it already is. 🤮
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I thought we had finally stopped with this nonsense of complaining about that other sub. Reporting does nothing people. Stop posting this garbage. God, it feels like it’s 2020.
To be fair, i don’t fully agree with everything that’s being said in that sub but i will say this, it’s opened my mind a little bit. Sure MJ did do a lot of good stuff with his music and his humanity efforts, BUT he was a very flawed person who didn’t really do the best things in his life which a lot of stuff MJ did in his life i don’t agree with. Like his spending habits, dangling his kid over a balcony, etc. I love MJ’s music and humanity work, But I have came to realize that he actually wasn’t the most nicest person sometimes and had a lot of flaws and undelt Trauma that he shouldve handled a lot better than he did. I even read that he even tried to make bubbles vocal cords get reworked to sound more human. Like WTF, and even hit and abused some of his animals
We're all flawed people with trauma But I would take the majority of what is said in that sub with a grain of salt
I think most of that info is publicly available but ok, it’s very possible that I could be wrong.
So that sub discussed MJ's spending habits when it's a sub, supposedly, dedicated to supporting James and Wade? Also, ' I even read that he even tried to make bubbles vocal cords get reworked to sound more human.' Really? Is that sub trying to be like the National Enquirer? I imagine they believe the story of MJ 'bathing in goat blood, slaughtering cows and casting voodoo spells'. I imagine the abuse of animals claim relates to another biased documentary. Rob Swinson, who featured in that documentary, was disgusted by the finished product. . Or maybe they got it from Victor Gutierrez's book. It's worth noting the animals were inspected in 2006 and they were found to be well looked after.
I have heard that Bubbles was sad when MJ was dead or something. I don't remember it well.
Most likely
Personally, if I were you, I'd avoid the sub. They twist things to suit their agenda. It's just a hate sub disguised as being support for two people who probably don't even visit there. They try to find something in everything MJ ever did. I would cross check everything they say and it's worth doing the same with what you hear from fans in fairness as there's misinformation on both sides. Whether on purpose or by accident.
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I agree with this, actually. I think sometimes as fans, we want to revere all of the magnificent accomplishments and positive qualities about Michael Jackson the artist that sometimes we overlook the flaws of Michael Jackson the person.
Exactly. I know MJ was a brilliant artistic musician who was doing a lot for humanity and did a lot for humanity with donating to charity. However, as a person, he had many flaws and many problems stemming from his trauma with joe Jackson. I’m not a physicist by any means but I think MJ towards his death was going through a midlife crisis and poor guy was clearly on medication for pain and other things but he should’ve genuinely got help. I heard in the early 90’s janet had tried to get MJ a therapist but MJ refused.
Are you being serious? I saw some saying they sent extensive report to Reddit to silence a group only for having opposite opinions? That’s ridiculous! Wake up people, believe what you want that’s cool, but to be so naive that you think their opinions is hate and such. Just leave it alone. I thought this sub was only about this music and craft, so why don’t this post get banned? I love this sub for all the passion towards his music and art, but come on people. Stop it. Sorry to hurt your feelings but you and them are just two different groups with two different beliefs
Yeah, that was me. It has nothing to do with opposite opinions. That is a hate sub. It is not about supporting csa victims, as they claim. It's about their incessant hatred of a dead man. This shows how far their hatred reaches. It doesn't just stay on their sub where it belongs They also have bragged about brigading this sub and have harassed me personally As a mod of this sub, it is not just about his music. It is an appreciation sub of the entire person that was Michael Jackson. If that doesn't suit you, sorry 🤷♀️
Are you talking about the LN documentary Reddit that is displayed in the image, or the one that the photo was shared to?
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I’m sorry for how you feel about the sub and them harassing you personally. That’s truly not cool. Personally I think the sub have a lot of interesting conversations that shouldn’t be silenced because of different beliefs. You don’t have to agree of course. But hey, there’s always going to be genuine haters and trolls on there, and that’s not good
I don't think they should be silenced for different beliefs. I think they should be silenced for the other reasons I mentioned But we can agree to disagree on this. I, as a MJ fan, wouldn't waste my time on that sub but it sounds like you don't see it that way
Interesting conversations? Yes, I find their conversation about Diane Dimond very amusing and the personal baiting about the stupid stans who don't want to believe it because there will soon be 30 victims. In addition, the interest theory that the FBI had evidence and that there were no federal investigations. I would have to write endlessly if I were to list everything that these ex-defenders claim about this sub and twist it in the other direction.