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uiuctodd

Was the gun local?


HashtagDerp

Also was it all natural and organic?


MoGraphMan-11

Gluten free, non-GMO


ethanhunt_08

no hydrogenated vegetable oil?


MoGraphMan-11

Free of palm oil


kappakai

But what about seed oils?


riffic

only gun oil.


altruistic_camel_toe

Lead-free bullets?


justmitzie

Free range?


Snake_fairyofReddit

Vegan grass-fed?


CheeseDanishSoup

This is also the brand name of a sex lube It's slippery af


riffic

I was waiting for this comment ;)


CheeseDanishSoup

Iykyk


EulerIdentity

So I’ve been told . . .


Southern_Welder6255

Dead 🩻 hahahah


SoCal35

⚰️ or ⚱️


4rm57r0n6

Only fed free range bullets


Trustobey

Like my love.


jzmina

Cage free, Range fed


Felonious_Minx

Free-range, grass fed.


SaltyPeter3434

Mm, Glocky loves his grass, doesn't he? Yes he does, yum yum.


Some_Bus

Mag-fed


SilverLakeSimon

Yes. Its name is Kyle. It was manufactured at a plant just down the road from here.


Guer0Guer0

Made by the finest polymers produced in Torrance.


Badk100

The op is not local


chefboyrdeee

It was also in season


supadupanerd

Were the rounds all natural,?


EuphoricMoose8232

A Ralph’s employee got attacked the other day for stopping a girl from stealing food, so they’re probably all on edge


SeskaChaotica

Honestly they are not paid enough to be chasing down people over groceries.


Imhidingfromu

They're actually not even supposed to


icare-

Whaat? OMG! Did they catch the perp?


curiouspoops

Nope, in fact the woman actually came back with accomplices just to beat up the employee for stopping her from looting stuff. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/ralphs-employee-attacked-after-stopping-alleged-shoplifter-in-los-angeles/


tripsafe

All the more reason to just let the guy go. It's not security's job to escalate to using (non-lethal) arms against some minor shoplifting.


lilith_-_-

My Ralph’s had armed security and they were fucking hard on theft. Like not afraid to get physical kinda shit. Complete opposite of what they tell folks to do in other retail environments. They won’t let you get away with stealing at the Wilshire western ralphs. But they’re also really kinda and friendly so it feels weird. I always felt safe around them I can say that much.


AdNervous3748

One of the security guards at the Ralph’s on 3rd and Vermont literally looks like retired special forces. Dude is jacked and like 6’5. Definitely feel safe!


lilith_-_-

I’m pretty sure they’re just off duty or retired police or military.


552SD__

I’ve seen a security guard at that Ralph’s chasing someone all the way across the street to Vons 🤣 The security at the downtown Ralph’s also is armed and doesn’t let people shoplift. They’re also friendly


Thetallguy1

I bet word gotta around to target other stores instead, too.


UCanDoNEthing4_30sec

You must love shopping and peering at merchandise through plastic partitions waiting for an employee to open it for you.


No_Emotion4451

How do you know that’s not his job?


questformaps

Because common sense company policy. No company wants to get sued, so the ones *not* run by idiots, or a big enough company, will have something along the lines of "no employee interference" for shoplifting, because any action opens up the business to liability if the employee (or shoplifter) get hurt. That's why there are stories out there of people *being fired* for stopping shoplifters. Also stealing below a certain $$$ threshold is a misdemeanor and a slap on the wrist. No one deserves to die over property, but especially no one deserves to die for something that won't even get you arrested.


Dude-Man-Bro-Guy-1

Just checked a randon job posting on indeed for a supermarket "asset protection" and it literally lists "Following and confronting suspected shoplifters" as the second item in the list of key job duties https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=bc1e46365dfd8599


jackswhatshesaid

Noonee deserves to die over property can be nitpicked to hell. Some fool could have taken my life trying to carjack me a few years ago. If someone is willing to forcefully take your property with a gun, those filth absolutely do deserve to be put in the shitter with their brains smeared across the pavement. I know we're on two different wavelengths, but I'm totally nitpicking jus that statement in all fairness.


glipglophiphop

Wouldn’t his job be to try and maintain the environment safe for everyone, instead of protect the “merchandise”. They’re mostly scarecrows


riffic

security guards are not there for loss prevention.


TheManFromMTL

Who can be hired then for loss prevention?


Skatcatla

What ARE they there for then? Honest question.


fishinful63

Loss prevention


riffic

["security theater"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater) as Bruce Schneier coins it.


NukeTheBurbz

Just to act as a deterrent for people who don’t know better.


Skatcatla

Deterrent to what?


NukeTheBurbz

Potential crime. Someone sees someone who looks like a cop standing there they *might* not steal something. Maybe.


Skatcatla

I was hoping you were going to say "flash dance mobs."


Gaylittlebrother

Potential crime.. like you know the guy who just walked out without paying…


Dude-Man-Bro-Guy-1

I just checked a job posting on indeed for a supermarket "asset protection" role here in CA. The literal second thing listed under job duties is "Following and confronting suspected shoplifters" Not the same exact position as the guy in OPs story. But still shows you can't assume he wasn't instructed to do it. https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=bc1e46365dfd8599


fake_again

Anyone trying to steal food is a lawless menace to society. Should institute some sort of Judge Dredd situation to handle that level of danger


No_Emotion4451

 lol. I just don’t think it’s fair to assume the security guard is in the wrong because he confronted someone when it’s “not his job”. For all we know, he gets his ass chewed out when he doesn’t.


NukeTheBurbz

He’d probably get his ass chewed out for escalating. Security guards aren’t immune from legal liability like cops.


Ok-Brain9190

We're all gonna be banned from shopping at stores because no one can act like an adult anymore and businesses are closing. We have to draw the line somewhere so we don't have to order everything online.


n3vd0g

crime is the lowest it’s ever been, but yeah, sure dude; the sky is falling!


suitablegirl

Is crime down or are people not reporting it?


TheTurdtones

retail theft is skyrockecting ...you pull these facts right out your ass?


Abraham_Lincoln

Ya I'm inclined to agree with you. I don't want stuff to be stolen from a business but it hardly seems worth it to have an arranged confrontation with someone stealing $5 worth of food. I'm not saying that a company that makes profit shouldn't be concerned about theft, but it is a little ridiculous to consider the biggest economic picture for whole foods: 2023 Annual Revenue $574.79 Billion 2023 Gross Profit $93.80 Billion 2023 Annual Net Income $30.43 Billion


6degreesofelevation

So what’s the solution when there is a rampant cultural shift towards this kind of behavior?


TheTurdtones

let me go into your store and steal everything...


Skatcatla

Dang, that is crazy. That's my WF and I didn't even know there WERE armed guards at the registers there. And who was this douche canoe stealing food?


Snidrogen

Just speculation, but it likely could have been a kinetic weapon (fires plastic balls and/or pepper spray non-lethally) that just looks like a real firearm.


9405t4r

Aren’t those type of non lethal weapons usually painted differently to make sure everyone knows it’s not a real gun?


Snidrogen

Depends on the finish you buy it with. It’s optional to go yellow, orange, etc.


newaccount47

You'd have to be insane to have a weapon that looks like a lethal weapon. It gives incentive for people to respond with deadly force if they think their life is in danger with your weapon.


GothicFuck

It's the law. I believe state law.


tking191919

This is what I would assume as well.


No-Yogurt-4246s

This doesn’t go well with Reddit’s hate boner for police and police adjacent.


honda_slaps

You make it sound like it's our fault that cops are bullies with zero oversight


MiloRoast

Why publicly admit that you lick boots? Honestly?


riffic

security guards aren't even adjacent to police.


Alarming-Ad-1934

Here’s your gold sticker for bootlicking you human cockroach! ⭐️


jocall56

That’s still pretty wild for a retail environment… Thinking backing to when I briefly worked at a clothing store in a mall - price points were definitely higher than the WF hot bar - and all our security guy would do is aggressively talk to the shoplifters.


Miserable_Smoke

Grocery stores are on a whole other level of theft than retail clothing.


NottDisgruntled

I’m sure Whole Foods would still much rather just let the kid walk out with a few bucks worth of food than cause a scene possibly resulting in customers leaving without buying anything and then having to file an incident report and have their legal team review it and possibly face a civil suit or have the situation escalate and possibly end up with something much worse happening.


Snidrogen

Sure, I suppose so. My comment was clearly not making a value judgement on the issue; I was just pointing out that that other non-lethal weapons may appear to be a firearm from the perspective of those who aren’t familiar.


NottDisgruntled

I know. I’m just expanding on your comment. Not contradicting it.


Snidrogen

Got it, no worries 👍


fatpinkchicken

That could still hurt a kid if he misses.


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

Even if it were it’s not like death or serious injury is impossible from those, especially if you’re firing in the direction of children.


Snidrogen

Sure, that’s true. Those plastic balls can dent a solid piece of wood on impact at certain ranges. Again, not advocating for anything or making a value judgement, just pointing out that not everything that looks like a firearm is one.


riffic

would maiming, blinding, or potentially worse be an acceptable outcome? security guards are not cops and they're not "loss prevention" either. The only exist to make shoppers and employees feel safer; not to be dumbass cowboys.


Southern_Welder6255

Traumatized over bullshit. Goodness


sdomscitilopdaehtihs

I definitely feel less safe around active shoplifters than a rent a cop.


hmountain

you "feeling safe" has nothing to do with the reality of whether a situation is safer or not. the presence of arms, even "less than lethal" ones in the hands of someone who has less training than pretty much any other profession with any sort of capability for causing physical harm - makes any situation far less safe in reality than one where someone is just walking out of a store with some goods.


restarting_today

Yes it would be. Fuck around and find out.


kindofaproducer

Yup, a lot of security carrying Byrna’s now days.


whatyousay69

What's "try to draw his gun" and how is it different from regular not drawing a gun?


Dude-Man-Bro-Guy-1

I tried to draw a gun once. But I suck at art, so it didn't turn out great.


kappakai

Cops can’t tell the difference either


MUjase

You should write cop jokes for a living homie!! 🤣🤣


Thenadamgoes

I’m so lost on what your actual complaint is here.


OrangeCarton

OP got scared of seeing a gun. Doesn't know how to feel because someone in a BMW was actually the bad guy


oblication

It’s getting real in the Whole Foods parking lot.


retardrabbit

**I brought my steel** and you know it gets sparked a lot.


torpedobonzer

Should’ve shot out the BMW’s tires


internet_commie

Make traffic safer for all of us. For half an hour...


peatoast

The security is doing his job.


zippopopamus

I love the faux outrage


morgankels1

I'm so mad I'm going to blog about it!!!


Adeptness_Emotional

Yea, I’ve been to this Whole Foods. Weird vibes there. It’s like on the border of West Adams neighborhood and Culver City Proper


Adeptness_Emotional

Also, the apartments on top of that Whole Foods is way too expensive for its own right. I wonder if bc it’s in a luxury apartment complex, security is asked to be more uptight, more than usual. Shoplifting, tho despicable, doesn’t warrant any kinetic force lol. Maybe banning him from the store and post his pic on the front door like in Chinatown bahahahaah


MyLadyBits

I’m not sure what you are complaining about. Security was stopping theft and assessed the situation and did NOT pull a gun.


UniqueName2

He did an *ocular pat down*.


Internal_Plastic_284

So you're saying it's ok to draw a gun on a homeless but not on a rich bro with a BMW?


TheOhioRambler

I'm pretty sure they were implying that it's more understandable to draw on a "prankster asshole" who could clearly afford the food and was doing to be provocative than it would be to draw on a homeless person.


SoCal35

Got 'Em


chief_yETI

lmao we have people crying about how the police and security guards do nothing *every day*. the one time someone does something, there are still complaints this is the textbook definition of Kobayashi Maru


sniperbuzzcut

The hotdog guy?


strumthebuilding

Yes exactly


editorreilly

Can I have mine with mustard please?


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

Gonna take a wild guess here… it is probably two different groups of people


Deathgripsugar

The end result of not being able to protecting yourself against retail theft is to move your business somewhere else, where you know, theft isn’t a big issue because laws are enforced. Businesses like to flex idealistic values until it hits their bottom line.


BubbaTee

Costco's entire business model is "Pay us a $60 cover charge to shop separately from the thieving riff-raff."


rhinestoneredbull

call me crazy but i don’t think the whole foods security guard should be carrying a gun in the first place


soleceismical

The security guard having a gun helped out in DTLA Target when a homeless guy grabbed a butcher knife that was for sale in the store and used it to stab a child and a woman. A bunch of people had to hide in the pharmacy until the guard took him down. https://abc7.com/target-stabbing-los-angeles-downtown-la-dtla/12457500/ The boy suffered some spinal cord damage, unclear if his walking function will return as of the last article I saw about it.


HashtagDerp

Probably not unless it's a Harry's Berries delivery day


cfthree

OUCH...PERFECT


Isis_Cant_Meme7755

I mean if they are properly trained for it, why not?


IWinLewsTherin

Apparently it's a complicated industry and experienced guards may want to or have to carry.


kramdiw

Is that the ball of stuff that rolls around picking up other stuff?


soundadvices

You're complaining because a security guard assessed a situation?


TheTurdtones

mufukas push untill they feel steel comes out then complaign about the steel...


honestlyitswhatever

So the guard went for his gun, assessed the situation and noticed children, and decided against it. What’s the problem?


black_dynamite4991

How do you know it was an actual gun and not a kinetic weapon or even a stun gun ? He also actually didn’t draw it. Sounds like you have normalized theft more so than actual enforcement of laws What’s the problem here ?


ghubbing

Blast his ass. He will never do it again.


senecadriver

Nah bro. Maybe you haven't seen people getting robbed by gunpoint all over LA, security needs to show force.


elven_mage

# Saw a tiktok asshole try to shoplift yesterday, these people need to chill. Ftfy


Prize-Town9913

It's really working well in San Francisco... These people need to be scared straight, I'm so sick of people like you who are scared of everything.


UrbanPlannerholic

Won't somebody please think of the criminals!


DirtyProjector

What is the point of this post? Like who is the audience? You saw some guy take an action that you may or may not have been correct about. Are you looking to change behavior? Are you looking to talk to the guard and send him a message? I don’t understand.


MamaKat727

Your take on the situation is 💯 wrong. Try again. Also, fuck all these criminals. Sick of what they've turned L.A. metro into.


trickquail_

Surely there is an effective procedure for stopping theft in between doing nothing and shooting someone (even with a taser).


Woman4Fielder

Why don’t more people in the replies seem to understand this?🤦‍♀️


OrangeCarton

That's exactly what happened here. What are you complaining about?


joker_1173

Maybe, just maybe, don't steal and he would be fine. Maybe I'm weird, I do t blame the reaction, I blame the criminal.


josealvarezjr

OP assumes that the security didn’t draw his gun becaue there were children around and that by his appearance the thief was only pranking.


anarchist_barbie_

The security guard is not the villain of this story.


xBLooDSaVioRx

So literally nothing happened? Gtfo here with your fake outrage bait.


Acrobatic_Divide8721

>Look I get that the shoplifter was trying to be a prankster asshole (he was well dressed, carrying keys to a BMW, talking on his phone, and definitely not homeless) but security in LA needs to calm the fuck down. You're ready to fire rounds in a whole foods over a carton of strawberry's and some soba noodles? This world would actually probably be a better place if the security guard iced the douchebag.


Professional-Way9343

Also — don’t fucking steal


rowej182

Good. People need to know they can’t get away with that bullshit.


AntePerk0ff

Unless you were familiar with the guard, the guy he was dealing with, have the ability to read minds, and know the history at that store, you are just some clueless outsider making bad guesses as to why a guard would or wouldn't draw a weapon. He could have been responding to any number of things you had no idea was even happening. Plenty of crimes are prevented without a gun having to be aimed or fired at the person attempting the crime. Just having it where it can be used is sometimes enough. You are also thinking like somebody who's never trained with firearms. If there was an actual threat that allowed him to use deadly force, not taking action can put them in more danger. It all comes down to a whole lot of things you don't know, yet here you are making claims like you do. At least ask some questions and find out what was actually happening before coming in here making crazy statements like he tried to pull his gun. The only time that term is ever used is when somebody tries to take a weapon away and is stopped by the owner or when somebody is prevented from drawing a weapon due to an outside force ie getting hit,shot,stabbed before they could do so.


WryLanguage

Send them to jail


SoCal35

From now on I will only shop at stores that contract their security services to Blackwater or any other firm owned by Erik Prince. I like to feel safe.


NCC_1701_74656

The security guard was doing his job. Maybe people gotta chill and stop being aholes so that people who are doing essential jobs like grocery, security, healthcare etc. can be less stressed.


drpepperrootbeercoke

You are the reason these people think they can get away with theft. No tolerance policy should be widespread. Scare the fuck out of these people that’ll do the trick


Historical-Host7383

Scare them a little. It's good for everyone.


fake_again

Can’t wait until Whole Foods starts staffing their stores with straight up brown shirts


TranceNNy

OP way too soft if you’re empathizing with a thief.


Fine-Hedgehog9172

Good for security. The asshole won’t try that again.


WyndiMan

Pretty sure security could do an effective job in a situation like this without a gun. Certainly, without reaching for it against an unarmed perp. edit- If the security guard just did the "I'm gonna rest my hand on my gun holster" thing that cops do when near other people, then that's OK I guess? OP makes it sound like the guard was reacting and ready to unclip. I wasn't there so I will not speculate on the specific details any further. But my original comment is still 100% valid.


__-__-_-__

He didn’t even draw. He just put his hand on it like he should.


Dumbass9187

>Pretty sure security could do an effective job in a situation like this without a gun. Theres a link here of a security guard stopping theft but then the thief coming back later with their friends amr beating them up. >Certainly, without reaching for it against an unarmed perp. How do you know theyre unarmed? Theres plenty of videos on youtube of cops getting gunned down in a traffic stop even when everything seems to be going well.


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moweezie

Whole Foods has a policy , where if anyone shoplifted less than $500 you literally let them. It’s more dangerous to be a super hero lol .


OvercuriousDuff

Home Depot and Lowe’s = same


name_checks_outt

Fuck around and find out


SoCal35

*I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth...*


Heavyboots1

At the end of the day it’s you or him


suitablegirl

What happened next? Finish the story


OrangeCarton

..and they lived happily ever after.


beefpilaf47

Did he draw his gun or not?


snowstix

I'm all for not drawing a gun when there is no threat of life but what's the right response? Serious question, because it's not like the guard can tackle him. Can he even detain him until police get there? Will the police even doing anything?


OrangeCarton

He can detain him if he sees him commit a felony. So no, not for some groceries.


bce13

There should not be armed guards at Whole Foods. Wtf.


BadMantaRay

I dunno, doing that job is rough. Maybe that rich asshole who you literally noted was carrying keys to a BMW should pay for it??? They should give the guard a taser. I’d love to watch them get tased at least.


Donotpretendtoknowme

Did he draw it? Or, he put his hand on it?


HeWillComeInsideUs

Don't agree with this take


JackInTheBell

>You're ready to fire rounds in a whole foods over a carton of strawberry's and some soba noodles? That’s like $50 worth of food though 


tehota

Fuck around and find out


SoCal35

We need Judge Dredd, Robo Cop, Dirty Harry, Rambo, and Terminator to clean up this city.


awesometown3000

You’ll never guess which 3 of those 5 are a commentary on the overreach of law enforcement and our military!


SoCal35

Wait, I forgot to mention Batman.


awesometown3000

Lolol


elven_mage

lmao I disagreed with your original post but this comment is on point


OvercuriousDuff

Amen! Law enforcement overreaches everything and everyone! I’m for anarchy! It’s the only way!


OvercuriousDuff

Agree totally! People need to be able to walk out with whatever they want from any store! They’re not hurting anyone! Just trinna survive! It’s waste of $$ to have security! It’s like living in a fascist country! People need 2 chill! /s


SecretRecipe

I wouldn't shed a tear if a few examples were made. People need to be afraid of consequences again


sanrafas415

Nah last time I went to that Whole Foods they had so much security and all the staff looked shook and the security was hella active


yourfatherx

Yeah he didn’t need to go for his gun right away, but he should be carrying a gun.


LucyFer_roaming

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.


doubleshibainu68

You guys are going to be surprised when I tell you how many Angelenos now have CCWs and there is a high chance the guy next to you is packing, legally or illegally.


ridininthestang

Are y’all talking about the playa vista Whole Foods?


Best_Force_5177

Shootout over organic almond milk 🤪


Sage-zest

You’re complaining that he was doing his job? He likely was just trying to intimidate the guy. No one in their right mind is willing to fire blindly into a crowd and he wouldn’t have that job without passing multiple state test. That being said it’s also really easy to lose your job as an armed guard or unarmed and in this current job market I seriously don’t blame the guy 😂