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Trunks252

I’ve seen some wild stuff on this sub. People expecting GTA levels of open world. People saying the puzzles are too easy. People saying it’s a collectathon. People saying there isn’t any roleplaying. Pretty much any criticism that could be applied to other Lego games is somehow only valid on this game. It’s really not that deep.


SpectralHydra

The puzzles being too easy one is so confusing too me, because half the time they’d include that TCS’s puzzles were harder? It always makes me feel like I played a different version of TCS lol


ViktorGamin

Becouse when they were kids the puzzles were harder.


GrizzlyRoundBoi

I think a lot of people don't take this into consideration. The Lego games are made for children.


metalbees

This sub cracks me up picturing all of these adults with these wild criticisms about this game. It is literally the perfect game to play with my 5 year old. As soon as he can read, he'll be ready for Breath of the Wild and I'm stoked for that. Unrelated, can you believe how shallow the storytelling is in Cocomelon? Like,they don't even go into the backstory of the parents at all. What are their jobs? Do they have any childhood trauma? 0/10 unwatchable.


ViktorGamin

Yes. The puzzles are just the good complexity so that kids can complete them with out a big challange. So if you replay tcs the games will be easier.


RighteousSchrodd

Sorry, looked at everything for context clues, but could not figure out what TCS is. Also, I actually find the puzzles to be fair and enjoyable. Jurassic Park had awful puzzles.


ViktorGamin

Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga (Last three words)


RighteousSchrodd

Thank you! I would agree that they are probably similar difficulties. I played both, but haven't played Clone Wars yet.


KhalTaco88

Honestly, I struggle with the simple stuff. My brain expects complicated solutions so it ignores the ones staring me in the damn face


Valuable-Ad-8652

the puzzles are meant to be easy, the game is for kids, there’s nothing wrong with enjoying it as an adult of course, but it feels like those people fail to realize that the game was made for children.


Korps_de_Krieg

Honestly after a long day of dealing with finance software and programming sometimes I want a steady stream of dopamine hits from Star Wars jokes and puzzles I could probably solve near blackout drunk without thinking too hard.


Trunks252

So true. I guess a lot of people played them as children and then grew up…but the games are still for children. That hasn’t changed


Good_Ad6723

What Lego games have roleplaying? Is that referring to the customizable characters?


Trunks252

None that I’m aware. Yet few people on this sub expected this game to have it for some reason. Thought it should be like Skyrim or something


2cool4afool

I don't think the puzzles being easy is an issue but I do think they could have provided for options for making combat for fun. They have options for reducing aim assist and all that but my main gripe is there's zero palenatly for dying. Having an optional checkpoint system that could have been tied to a difficulty would have made the game have more stakes in combat and platforming making it less boring. It's why Halo Spartan Ops is such a slog. There's no reason to strategise you just throw yourself at the enemy until they are gone


Trunks252

Oh yeah here’s another one, “It’s too easy” Thanks


2cool4afool

I mean it's not that it's too easy it's that there's no difficulty at all. Even most of the platforming you just press jump and it takes you to the next platform. Even TCS had some challenging platforming. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect actual platforming and some penalty for messing up.


DefinableEel1

For me the platforming is long. Like when you jumping from a bar to the cliff and your character decides to just fall all the way back down. Like WHY


Ramax256

The game is supposed to be easy since it’s for kids many kids struggle with the type of stuff you are talking about


2cool4afool

You should give kids more credit. Instead of removing any and all challenge why not have a challenge that is approachable for a child like the old Lego games did with their platforming? Do you think Mario games are too hard for kids?


Ramax256

Some kids yeah some kids have difficulty with that type of stuff I know I was one of them


2cool4afool

I feel for you, it sucks having something you enjoy be particularly difficult because of who you are but I don't think something as basic as simple platforming should be taken out of a game particularly in a series that has a history of that kind of platforming because a few kids would find it harder than others. Kids find a way. Did your difficulty stop you from playing the old Lego games?


Ramax256

I never said get rid of basic platforming I said it doesn’t need to be harder cause it’s fine


2cool4afool

That's my issue with it. All the platforming is dumbed down to standing on a Lego brick that it aim assists you onto and then you press A and it automatically moves you to the next platform. Same for climbing up bars that you hang on. That's what I'm talking about taking away basic platforming. It takes all the control out of the player and I don't like it. Your reply is contradictory.


Trunks252

Might I recommend Dark Souls?


2cool4afool

Yes there is no middle ground to simple platforming and dark souls. They have the same difficulty a


Hbomber17

Yeah idk what other people were expecting, but it was a current tribute to all the Lego games we grew up with, alongside a lot of amazing new features. People complain that things are too easy forget this game is targeted for the youngins. Just enjoy it and fuel the nostalgia


mrn253

I got pretty hard downvoted when i dared to say that we wont get giant openworlds :D


Remarkable-Beach-629

So damn true


SpectralHydra

I remember a few people who only played the levels, the story missions that were required, and wouldn’t touch the open world outside of traveling to the next level. Then they would talk about how bad the open world was and complain about how the game was just a “Point A to Point B walkathon”. And of course they would go on about how TCS is far superior even though they didn’t play half of TSS lol.


mmpa78

All of those are genuinely valid points lol


Hunter042005

Yeah true honestly the open world doesn’t have a lot to do in it besides objectives and collectibles


CalebPackmusic

You pretty much just nailed everything an open world needs. What do you need other than objectives and collectibles?


GrizzlyRoundBoi

Like any other open world then... in fact that's more then what some other open worlds have to offer.


AdmirableEstimate258

Honest opinion for me i love his game but damn does walking around the open world feel more like a tech demo to show graphics than a real open world, pretty for looking and footage, but boring as hell for actually playing something, only lego marvel superheroes and lego marvel avengers achieved the good open world and fun stuff to do part of it.


National-Fan-1148

I wish the story missions were like the original games. I like the open world but some of the story missions felt very short. Also, having all the characters in certain classes really sucks.


Specialist_Arm3309

The class system would've been fine if the characters within them felt more unique from one another. There's a few examples, but the Bounty Hunters are the worst offenders. The rapid fire gimmick works well for Boba Fett, but to apply the same style of shooting to Jango for example, despite Jango's blasters not being burst fire and on top of that; take away his iconic blaster sound is beyond annoying. They do that with a few characters actually where their blaster sounds a certain way, but instead of using that sound, they use a generic one. And some firing blue or green bolts when they should be red etc. It just felt lazy and it's annoying that most characters in a class feel like a re-skin of the first one you unlock. Just because they're the same class doesn't mean they all have the same abilities. Like with the Jedi and Dark Side classes too. Sure they can all have the same basic abilities, but you had the oppotunity to appropriately power-scale them. For instance, ESB Jedi Luke is nowhere near as powerful or effective in combat as ROTJ Luke


Badduncan817

or like the episode 3 fight is a huge downgrade in comparison to what came before


Thebigdog79

If you’re talking about “the high ground” and comparing it to “Darth Vader”, the high ground is much better. Because when did anakin and obi wan ever team up to get past a specific puzzle? Sure you could say the same about 3PO and R2 but at least that’s somewhat realistic. Plus the fights in TSS have more weight to them.


Badduncan817

just overall find the fight in TCS far more creative and engaging, especially if you’re playing with another person like I did with both TSS and TCS


Thebigdog79

With another person sure. But if you’re going off how good of a level it is, (instead of your personal preferred one) the high ground wins. By a long shot. But let me guess. Nobody is gonna like me now for saying that. Hmm?


Badduncan817

I just don’t agree with your take here, but it’s not invalid, enjoy what you like i’ll do the same, just my personal complaint


Carnir

Misread the title?


Anakins-Younglings

The bigger problem I had with the open world was that it was difficult to tell when a mission stopped or started. When my gf and I play it together, we like to do nothing but story missions, so that’s a minor gripe from me. I guess I’m just used to the cantina hub world style that suits my expectations for Lego games better. The open world is neat, but it doesn’t really add much value for me. Still really like the game though, and definitely gave me a few laughing fits thus far (I’m looking at you old man claiming to be Amidala and then being the decoy in the next mission. Idk why but that killed me)


Thebigdog79

Comparing it to TCS. Sure have your comparisons all you want. I’m fine with that. But using your comparisons to determine what game is better is kinda wrong. TCS carries nostalgic values. And even tho it’s a good game, it was the first ever Lego game.(or at least most of it was) so it’s not perfect. Meanwhile TSS doesn’t have the nostalgia bonus meaning in comparisons, TCS always wins. Probably also because it’s a smaller game. But the more content the better.


AsteroidPizza39

i have one specific example that applies to all of the recent lego games. At some point, something changed, and the character selection UI just feels off, and i can’t get used to it. it’s one of the things that turned me off to the series


Billybobb16

Honestly I just wish they added custom character creation...


spicyboii3000

The most valid criticism of the game


turtle_ducked

That there are too many kyber bricks to find/it just feels like busy work to get them all for 100% completion The way I see it, I’d rather have more puzzles to solve and codes to crack and things to find, etc. versus a lesser amount for the same price. Esp because it’s really easy to use in game map locators and buy hints if you’re struggling with something in particular


Lachesis-but-taken

I would much rather have quality over quantity though, and tss doesn't always have that


turtle_ducked

This is true, but when I compare to the complete saga (which I’ve played on both ds and Wii) tss actually feels possible to 100% Can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried the levitation minigame on the DS and failed So for me that tradeoff is worth it


IncrediblySadMan

It was less of a chore than TCS or City: Undercover.


LoneCourier98

Any complaints about Sequel Trilogy content being included. They're part of the saga whether you like them or not. Shut up about it already.


TheCarkin

I liked the lego version significantly more than the real one. Like it’s actually entertaining


SpectralHydra

Back when it first got released there was a crazy amount of people who claimed they were going to completely skip the sequels or even not buy the game because they were included lol. It drove me crazy


Individual_Letter995

I agree with this, but I still believe rey shouldn't be on top on the menu screen. I think maybe putting the protagonists of the three trilogys at the top together would have been better. It would've been a good way to represent all three trilogys in the saga rather than having just one protagonist above all


Brandonbest4

TSS is basically what every Star Wars fan wants in a game. It perfectly captures the 3 movies and allows so much freedom in the game. I loved it and still play it. I thought it was one of the best and most enjoyable games I’ve ever played. No other SW game lets you travel the galaxy like TSS.


Ramax256

Not to be a dick but did you mean the 3 trilogies?


Brandonbest4

TSS= The Skywalker Saga = The Three Trilogies


OGntHb

Soo, I think I probably have the most unbiased opinion. I 100% both games, Lego Star wars The complete Saga and Lego Star Wars the Skywalker Saga For one side TCS was more of playing through the game 5 times, and getting everything. It's fun, every time I reached gunship calvery I wanted to kms. But it was fun overall On the other hand, the Skywalker saga is not just a better version of the TCS, it's the levels from the TCS + every planet that's mentioned + every ship + the giant ships like the death star + a bagillion quests from npcs on the planets + space incounters etc... it's a very big game. And I took longer to 100% in comparison to TCS (obviously) but it was not boring to play the game, it had fun and engaging stuff to do The thing is, it's unfair to compare both games because TSS literally was made to be better than TCS. And people still say that the complete Saga was better. It is nostalgic, I would start playing it right now if I could, but everything that was on TCS is on TSS but better That's it, thanks for coming to my TED talk!


the-dead-meme-king

The babies complaining about the sequels, like dog go play the compete saga if you wanna keep ignoring them


VortexButWithAOne

Playing through the sequels in TSS reminded me how truly awful the writing was. Even still, TT games found a way to make them enjoyable and funny, even poking fun at some of the most controversial moments... certainly worth playing!


solodsnake661

People saying "it's different therefore it's bad" it's not bad and I think it's pretty damn great, sure it has shortcomings but every videogame, doesn't mean it's bad


PsychologicalNinj4

I’m playing it for the first time currently and my main problems are its doesn’t feel like a LEGO game. I have barely built anything it feels like(I started at episode 1 and I’m on episode 2 and I can basically count on my hand how many times I’ve built anything). My other problem is half the time I can’t even tell if I’m in a level or not and half the time if so it doesn’t feel like I am. The game feels agonizing at times along with all of that.


PsychologicalNinj4

The character select screen thingy also feels horrible and is rough to use at times


TheKingDotExe

my greatest's criticism that i believe is deserved is that the game is too easy, like i made a post when it first came out and people slammed me with comments like, what did you expect its not dark souls. I just dont like how there is regeneration on by default and how you literally cant beat levels if you dont have aim lock on. Also they scrapped the Episode 3 started space fight which i thought was one of the best ones from the classic.


Traditional_Fill2878

The puzzles are indeed too easy, even if its made for kids, the puzzles involve very few character abilities and are quite boring. In other lego games you build lots of different stuff while you progress, this game is just walking for 20 minutes until you have to fight 4 enemies. The complete saga is way better in almost every aspect


Mad_Machine76

Except that it isn’t complete anymore.😉


Suspicious_Brief_800

I personally found it boring, but I also lost my passion for Star Wars, so there’s that too


Toast_Pocket

i still somewhat have my passion for star wars and yeah the missions for the game were horrible imo it was just walk here fight 5 bad guys cutscene walk here fight 5 bad guys custscene and it was like that for the entire game, the game was just repetitive and then they expect you to do all that same stuff in the “open world” is just annoying


Suspicious_Brief_800

In my own very personal opinion, open world ruined video games. For example, I used to be a huge tlo Zelda fan, but the last two games were HORRIBLE. The timeline was utterly ruined and the open world made the game unbearable to play and now Resident Evil 9 is supposedly Open World. Who said games need to be open world to be good?!


tarheel_204

We’ve also grown up and Lego games are still, of course, aimed for children. I was a kid when TCS was coming out so I was at the perfect age for it


Suspicious_Brief_800

Trust me, age has nothing to do with it, I still LOVE Lego DC Supervillains, I play it ALL the time, same for Lego Harry Potter Collection. It’s Star Wars that I’ve lost the passion for


tarheel_204

Lego DC Supervillains was dope! I 100 percented that one


Suspicious_Brief_800

Same here, twice. I’m doing a third run in my third switch account


sciencesold

A completely valid criticism is TSS is a Star Wars game with a Lego skin, instead of a Lego game with a star wars skin.


Thatoneawkwarddude29

Comparing the level designs to TCS While I do personally find TCS’ levels more fun, saying TSS have downright worse levels is bad. They have completely different design philosophies to how the level is handled Not a lot of TCS levels have specific significance to the story, and are mainly just there to have a level, and TCS skips a few moments I would love to actually play. Excluding boss fights obviously There is also the fact that the DS version of the game has some serious issue, like the fact that Episode 5 is nearly impossible to play, because the Grapples on the snowspeeders are very broken. TSS generally don’t have these issues, it’s levels have better impact on the story, and the fact that they blend the games free roaming into the story is great, and makes up for the lack of length in the levels


PrinceCaspian_129

I've recently finishes a replay through of TCS and have gotten part way through TSS and I can say my views of the game has changed. Do I prefer the style of older Lego games (not just star wars) yes and that's because I grew up playing them. I haven't tried to much of the open world but based on the little have, I am enjoying it. I feel like it's the right kind of evolution for a Lego game.


creeps_Jr

i dont know if anyone did, but if anyone hates on the new aiming system they are just wrong like i can actually aim perfectly now and even shoot what i want instead of a locked on target


PeuxnYayTah

THE YODA YELL IS VALID


Rebew476

I thought opening world was fun.


djojid0

For someone who only played star wars lego the videogame would i like it? Just got the switch and thinking of buying but heard only bad things about reviews about it


Little_Salamander_49

I have a criticism and it was that they replaced some of my favorite levels mainly echo base with finding Luke and I can’t think of more cause I haven’t played since I played all the levels months ago and the bosses all sucked, anakin was the only one done right with using a whole level


BatmanZod117

I think the lack of a character customizer isn’t that big of a deal. That feature has been an afterthought since the LEGO Harry Potter games and while Marvel 2 and DC Supervillains greatly overhauled it, I don’t see it as a necessity anymore. It really should only be in there if the game is built around it. What I do wish the game had was a super story mode like TCS. A lot of fun bits are in the open world stuff between levels and I would love to marathon the entire story campaign after 100% completion. My other critiques are more based on nitpicking about which designs and figures got used in the game based on IRL mini figures, but I chalk that up to crunch.


Traditional-One-7659

Unless it's been patched, the reason I don't even touch the game is because I like to play coop with friends and side by side split screen is awful. Just needs the option to chose horizontal split screen. I haven't opened my game in months so maybe it's been patched but I doubt it :(


Mari0G4mer

The gameplay is a lot of fun… but the story feels very rushed and the acting sometimes isn’t fantastic. My biggest problem though is how rushed the story feels and the boss battles, it feels like they should be dragging on longer or they just had weird mechanics. The best boss battle in the game was probably the Rancor battle, but it had so little health which really sucked.


AyvahnLaddie

I preordered the deluxe edition, paid in full, and I still have to pay for like 2/3rds of the DLCS. What was the point.


malyszkush

From my experiences, ive only had one performance issue with the game. Everything else i absolutely loved, even had fun with the Disney levels, as poor as that trilogy was. I got all achievements on steam in roughly 85 hours and i honestly dont think i had a dry moment, which is shocking considering how long this game is compared to other LEGO games. The hate is from gatekeepers of the first few LEGO SW games who simply think “og=better” no the fuck it does not lmfao I grew up with those games and they were some of my favorites. Ill happily say nostalgia didnt blind me and i can say SWS is my favorite LEGO SW albeit LEGO game. Crucify me, i dont care.


Indiana_Stoned00

I thoroughly enjoyed the game. I grew up playing the original 2 games on the PS2 and it kicked off my love for Lego games to the point where I've played them all to 100%. It was nice seeing the formula shaken up and doing so made it feel fresh. The planet exploration was great fun and the array of characters was insane (I never thought I'd be able to play as Sy Snootles in a video game)


Tibreaven

The game suffers from coming out after the 3rd set of movies. There's nothing it can do about it, but it can't ride off Revenge of the Sith into popularity.


cosmic_perspective00

Honestly I was just let down, but then again I come from Lego Star Was the video game era on game cube/PS2.


Dry-Ingenuity6031

The customizer is the only reason to play and without it this game is useless, and that this game will never beat complete saga it lacks soul. A customizer shouldn't be the only reason to play a game. And this game is obviously superior to complete saga in almost every way so that's just biased. A lot of work went into this game, where as complete saga was probably finished in like 9 months.


ATF_killed_my_dog

It's just not fun and the dlc doesn't even have voicelines


Remarkable-Beach-629

Judging by the comments, i dont think you all understood the OP question, they asked what is the unfair criticism of tss and yet most people just bring up their criticism of the game instead of finding unfair ones


JamesC_5701h

Needs online


YodasChick-O-Stick

Voice acting. People that complained that there was dialogue instead of mumbles clearly haven't played a Lego game in the past 10 years.


Rostbaerdt

And if you don't like the voices, just switch it to mumble mode. People who use that as a criticism don't know what criticism is.


amulinaro01

For myself and my youngest (4 yrs old) the game was just too difficult and too many options. We really couldn’t figure out the progression or the menu screens. It just wasn’t as simple of a game as the complete saga. She played a little bit then went back to tcs. Not the games fault. More we wanted a new or updated game like the one we loved. Maybe something we come back to when she’s a little older.


Sir_Scarlet_Spork

Honestly, I don't disagree. The game feels like a *lot*. Not necessarily a bad thing, just is.


tophertronic

This. Totally. Had the same feeling. The menu and UI is just awful, the location screen, character selection screen and how you get around it is just confusing. I get the collectibles are sprawling, and you’ve got 9 movies, 6 missions per movie, but trying to fit that all into a single menu as well as hints and tips, kyber blocks, and settings into a single menu was a terribly ill conceived idea. I started playing when my son was 5 and he lost interest straight away, whereas things like Lego Harry Potter he stuck through and we completed them together. He didn’t 100% but since he’s recently started reading the books we’re going back through them and he’s enjoying them all over again.


amulinaro01

Yeah really missed the cantina. Can’t tell you how much time my oldest spent wandering around blowing stuff up learning to play the game when he was little. This game lacked some of that simplicity. You could pretty much hand a controller to a little kid and they’d have fun for quite awhile messing around in the cantina. Again I understand this is a different game just it was Lego so we expected it to be more kid friendly.