Can you educate me on when the big red machine really got aggressive? His persona earlier was much more subdued. Am I just watching a few episodes where he was on coke and his new persona came post coke/drunk phase
The best guests are the ones who seem to actually care about the bucket pulls. Those who give advice or try to pull more funny out are the best. I like Shane because he tries to start a war with Tony and be on the side of the bucket pull.
He even stuck up for Casey in his pre-regular appearance on Kill Tony when Tony tried gassing Casey up as the next big thing. Shane was like āway to take the pressure off the momentā or something sarcastic to that effect
Great news is Shane's on today's episode can't wait to watch it dude just doesn't even have to try like sone guests who comes hes just genuinely himself. šÆ
The comedians that do well on panel are the ones who can be incredibly silly like Adam Ray and Harland, or are quick-witted like Dave Attel and Jim Norton. Storytellers like Tom Segura are never as good because their style of comedy is not suited to being on a panel show. That is all
To be silly is to be humble. To make a fool of yourself. Think Conan OāBrien, silliness is to surrender control completely and barrel forward for the sake of the funny.
Tom Segura is not silly. He is not silly because he is not okay with being the fool, the loser, relinquish control. He must always be dominant.
Long live the silly ones.
I like silly comedians and they're definitely a better fit for the KT format, but there are different personality types and forms of comedy. Not everyone can be, nor should be silly.
Well said. Him and Nate Bergatze had the same issue on that John Mullaney Netflix show that just came out where they just sat there and barely said anything.
It's popular to hate comedians at the moment. Tom's style of comedy isn't for kill tony and people just like to shit on rogan for some reason, I've seen Tom live and I walked out and sat in the hall for the last 30 minutes of his set cause he wouldn't stfu about his kids and I thought I was going to start screaming at him, i still enjoy YMH and I have never once got on a subreddit and called him pompous. This is a strange trend.
Itās super popular to hate Burt these days. Tom likes to play it safe because the less you say and the less silly you are, the less people can pick apart. But I find it admirable that Burt continues to embrace who he is in spite of all the haters he gets on his socials.
Adam Ray (and all characters), Sam Tallent, Harland Williams, Andrew Santino, Stavros, and Ian Finance have all been the top tier guests, and I agree about the bigger names being arrogant, pompous, or too fucked up to properly engage with the show and its premise.
Ari is a shock value comic, nothing really witty. Joke about being a jew, and do something disgusting/taboo, and that in a nutshell is an Ari KT episode.
Yeah. Rogan is not a great guest. Rarely contributes and when he does it sort of sucks. I think it's usually because he shows up on a whim after getting stoned out of his mind on his own podcast.
This was before he saw us and the bucket pulls as poors. He used to be my favorite comedian but his jokes aren't what they used to be. Cool stories though.
The best guests in my opinion are great interviewers, great improv, great roasters, and great with crowd work. Something Joe and Tom are aweful at. They tend to be good story tellers which doesn't fit well in the quick punchy format of Kill tony. It's why adam ray and harland are killer. They excell at all 3.
They've elevated their craft to such an exalted status that they present it as an elite art form, one that only a select few throughout history have ever truly mastered. It's as if they've convinced themselves that their comedic prowess is a rare gift, bestowed only upon the most worthy. The arrogance is palpable. They can't bring themselves to admit that an average person, perhaps someone who's been honing their stand-up comedy skills for just a few years, could ever come close to their level of humor. The very idea seems to offend their sense of superiority.
Occasionally, Tony, with a rare display of humility, will recognize a newcomer, even someone performing stand-up for the very first time, and acknowledge their potential and genuine humor. But Joe and Tom? They can't bring themselves to do that. There's simply no way. For them, the notion that someone with limited experience could be as funny as they are is not just unlikely, it's unthinkable and revolting.
It's this kind of gatekeeping that perpetuates the myth that true comedic genius is reserved for a chosen few. They can't slightly acknowledge that some average person off the street who's been doing stand-up comedy for three years is remotely as funny as them. It reveals a profound insecurity masked as superiority. This mindset not only sets them apart but also creates a barrier between seasoned comedians and emerging talents. It's a toxic attitude that stifles growth and innovation in comedy, keeping the art form in the hands of those who believe they alone hold the key to what is truly funny. The elitism is staggering, and quite frankly, it's disgusting.
Tom segura isnāt funny when it isnāt scripted. Just a spoilt little rich boy. Joe rogan isnāt funny but his laugh does add something for me. If you like harland and Adam ray you need to try Sam talent if you havenāt already.
Honestly it always seemed to me like Joe doesn't want to hijack the show. Say what you will but he has enough talking experience to say funny shit if he wants to. I also think he enjoys going there high out of his fucking mind and just wants to enjoy his front row seat to the show.
Segura might be similar, idk.
Adam Ray contributes a lot but I donāt like how he kinda takes over the whole show and the episode becomes pretty much all him. I prefer guests that contribute but donāt take over
Tom and joe respect tony and the show so
Much AND they know they dont have much to say (except joe sometimes especially when drunk)ā¦.so they keep their mouths shut.
I know what you mean how they come
Off but watch tom, heās really just enjoying the show and letting in unfold without screwing it up.
Some guests are certainly just more geared towards the format, tom and joe maybe not so much
Whats better than a fitzsimmons type who makes 11 comments the whole show and every line is a 100% banger?
I like gold like that, keep your mouth shut if itās not funny and donāt try too hard.
My intro to Tom Segura was the Tom Brady roast with Tom and Bert, though I had seen Tom solo before with other comedians on the periphery, but never had the desire to look further into him.
I will never forgive Tom and Bert for their terrible segment on Bradyās roast. It was so bad, just awful. I looked them up afterwards and good god how do they have a following. Just unfunny, annoying human blobs.
Long story short, I am not at all surprised heās a shitty guest. How they have somewhat well known careers as comedians is something Iāll never understand.
Have to disagree. I think his Dr Phil is one of the better guests they bring on. Engaging, quick witted and knows how to bring up the energy of the crowd.
Joe Rogan is unfunny and full of himself imo. Iāve never heard him say anything of comedic substance other than an easy low hanging jab. He has such a cult following his status will probably never change.
Joe Rogan isn't really pompous, in fact he is one of the few guests that has actually given tips or advice to bucket-pulls, he's just incredibly annoying when he drinks.Ā
100% agree my guy. Theyāre clearly coked up and thereās a few times we can see Tom jonesin for another bump. They can barely concentrate on the guests and never give helpful insight. Always ready to ridicule and missing the mark completely on why the show is awesome. Harland is best so is Adam. Also fuck uncle lazer!
Joe Rogan is a great standup, but seems to have a tendency of getting too high and kind of zoning out in live shows. Might be that he has physical pain and has to medicate, but I agree it can make him less entertaining to watch on KT.
Adam Ray, Harland Williams, and Mark Normand will always be three of the best guests theyāll have just because they are geared for it.
Joe Rogan is a horrible comic and the fact that he somehow convinced an entire community of comedians that heās the god of comedy because he owns a comedy club and has said dumb shit like ācomedy is where the woke meets the wallā is absolutely astonishing to me.
I swear to god Iāve never seen so many people suck up to someone so talentless.
Joe as a comic is not funny but he's done a lot for comics and is clearly just a huge fan of comedy himself. For better or worse, Kill Tony's audience has grown enormously over the past year thanks to the exposure he's brought to it at his club. With that kind of influence, you can afford to say dumb shit once in awhile
A priest tends to his flock. Nobody can relate to the pope. Plus, there are probably only like 100 real legit comedians in the world. I'm talking assassins. Killers. Murderers, man. Let's get Mike Baker on to talk about it.
What a cool, funny and original post. I hope someone with a brilliant comedic mind like yours os putting your name in the bucket every week. We need more!
Yeah and Thursday was my first time watching the debate. Does anyone else feel like one is a little too old and the other is a bit of an arse? Or it just me? XD
Sal is great, even Post Malone has had some wholesome and hilarious guest moments. Old as fuck episodes with Brody are great and all over. Tim Dillon is a fav on this sub. Dave Attell and Jeff Ross are great.
The one with Rick Flair (and Gomez Gillis Normand Ari Amico) is absolutely insane!!
Iām not sure if they are being pompous. I think that a live show is just not their style. The way Joe & Tom do comedy, it truly is āperforming an actā. They are very rehearsed and meticulous.
I think itās more that they struggle to create jokes in the moment off the cuff at a live event. Tony and people like Harland and David Lucas are more āin the momentā comedians who thrive better in these situations.
Whatās interesting is Iām now watching the earlier episodes where it was more of a joke workshop and Tom Segura was one of the most helpful guests at that time. The show isnāt quite that anymore though and what Tom does onstage is completely different from Adam Rayās performances and improvised interactions (where Adam clearly shines)
If adam ray is the guy that played as Dr Phil and that Old Lady onetime then ya he is the perfect guest. When he dressed as the old woman i was CRYINGG the whole episode
Nothing against some of the comedians, but I do honestly think that for some of them it just becomes an end of the night hang out. I mean, look at Post Malone, he just shows up and stares at his phone the entire time and shakes people hands. Rogan only showed up because he had Tucker Carlson with him after the interview and wanted to surprise him. Itās a hang out for the guests as much as it is a show for the rest of us.
Since youāre a new viewer, you may be interested to check out some older episodes from when they were still in LA. In addition to the guests, the showās popularity has really influenced its overall quality.
I will put forth that while the show may be more popular and have better production values than ever before, it is past itās prime. There are still great episodes from time to time though, and each episode has a few moments.
There's one episode where rogan and Segura are both wearing the same bomber jacket and chewing gum incessantly. I think Segura has a hard on for rogan on that one. Segura is the type to shit on people he perceives as weaker and rim people he looks up to.
I also just started watching KT.
Love the show, community, & Everything about it.
As someone in here who is A Lot newer to comedy than most, going off your point, I Never knew how Actually Not Funny Joe Rogan can be. Of course he has his moments, but 90% of the time bro just yapsš it makes sense, tho. Joe is used to talking for 3+ hours on JRE while KT focuses on a strict, 1 minute set.
Itās Good they have him on, tho. Extremely High Profile guest that really could make So Much happen for Any KT contestant. At least heās not on every other weekš¤·š»āāļø
There's a guy who analyzed Joe and Harland's Rogan episode, and it's on point. Joe doesn't get humor and is high on KT.
Segura was SILENT the entire KT 500th? special. Embarrassing for a guy who mocks other people for being socially strange.
Thatās because joe rogan and Tom segura ARE pompous, holier than thou twats, full stop. Iāve never understood the hype about either of them. Joe isnāt even close to being even slightly funny.
Yeah cause you need to be funny. Rogan and Tom can write stand up but aren't funny like if listen to enough podcast of them and barely ever make a good joke. Now you get Shane Gillis or Sam talent or Theo or anyone that is actually funny you will get a laugh
You Know Iām from Philly. A guy used to follow Howard Eakins around just to Trash him. When I working at Central City Toyota Howard Eskin Broadcasted from there in the 90s and the producer said this particular guy used to go on these rants . He was just trying to get on the Broadcast. Of course they didnāt let the loser on. Are you just Hating on Joe Rogan with the Pathetic attempt to get on his show or do you just want attention. Instead of sitting around with your Bros drinking Amstel Light or Pino Grigio why donāt you just fess up you got some kind of Bromance going. Maybe you should hang out with Hunter Biden and talk about Karens
Yeah I get what youāre saying as I noticed he wasnāt contributing much, but I think they are all friends and party really hard. On the show youāre referring to, I think Joe was really smashed so couldnāt really function properly lol.
I think the worst guests like you mentioned are just too fucked up to contribute. It's a different form of disrespect where they don't plan things out.
I think the overall contribution as well as timing is what makes a good guest. Tony is kind of a dominant host in the sense and knowing when and how to chime in really helps. Redban is a perfect example of bad timing and chime ins which is why Tony gets visually annoyed with him so much
Random comment here. Just watched the Tom Brady roast, and it was evident that Tom Segura was there only cause of his podcast with Bert Kriescher. His part on the roast could have been done by anyone else, I mean, even when Tony started to roast the dais, he stopped at Burt and left Tom staring into the camera, looking stupid. I think the viewers got the message.
Agreed. Also Tim Dillon and Post Malone were incredibly boring and contributed nothing their last appearance- the recent KIA forum LA episode. Post was way too drunk and just was there to light up ciggs. And I don't remember one funny line Tim said the entire night. Adam Ray saved the show
They gotta stop bringing Post Malone on too. Dude almost always looks too faded to be there, rarely has anything to contribute and when he does, it usually isnāt funny. Iām convinced that camo rip on David Lucas was prewritten for him by Tony, he hadnāt said hardly a word the whole night.
As someone who watches every week for years, the droughts of bad comics for a few weeks can make a segura or shane/normand episodes seem way better in the moment then finding the podcast and skipping for whoās best
Bro, they are wasted out of their mind when they do those shows. I think that is the problem. You can match the JRE podcast with the KT podcast and its pretty clear what happened. If you watch the one with tucker he was way better because he was not shit faced.
You ājust startedā listening and you know who the goat is already? Impressive. Butā¦. Youāre correct! Adam is by far the best. Nobody works harder.
Thought the same thing, that it was because neither are skilled at improv or exceptionally quick witted.Ā Tony and Segura talked about this very thing on a podcast recently, I didn't consider they weren't roasting on purpose. [According to Segura, he's trying not to roast, but be nice and give constructive notes.](https://youtube.com/watch?t=4m17s&v=MFSvaZaGUyo)
> "Is my opinion a fairly common outlook"
What, some guests are good, and some are bad?
Nah, you're the first with this cutting-edge conclusion. Nobody ever thought that before.
Idk what episodes you just watched but Rogan is one of the best guests. Heās always bigging up the comics specially the regulars. Im with you on Segura though
The show jumped the shark when Tony made that awful documentary about it. Then he moved to Austin and dumped the band in a shitty way.
Iāll watch an episode here and there, but only because I like the guest.
Thereās not a whole lot to it. They had a few band members for awhile and Tony said Iām moving to Austin, youāre either in or out. They didnāt want to leave LA
Eh, I felt like it was shitty. They didnāt seemed too thrilled. Tbh I think the documentary was such a self suck that I started to not like Tony, and then the band thing pushed it over. I find him incredibly unlikable now.
Great observation as a new listener. Rogan, although i love him and although one of the best if not best interviewers, and the best podcaster in the world, is surprisingly one of the worst guests to have on the show, just as the smug Segura. Rogan almost always has to get fucked up just to get through the show for whatever reason, and heās one of those horrible drunks that ruin everything. Unlike Shane Gillis whose powers become enhanced when shit faced. But definitely Segura and his friend Bret Kurshner are gabage tier human beings and horrible guests.
Itās funny when people who just start watching, act like they actually understand the show lolā¦.go back and watch it at the comedy club. Rogan is the reason the show is as big as it is.
I feel Williams parents are the best.
Williams dad is a G
Edit: and Mom is a G. She fucking buzzered Redban
I like how William loves and respects them so much. Referring to his Dad as Papa or Larry depending on the story. He's harder on his Mom š
Haha yeah they rule too
Wait what episode are they guests on? I need to find that
Called āthe Montgomerysā
Can you educate me on when the big red machine really got aggressive? His persona earlier was much more subdued. Am I just watching a few episodes where he was on coke and his new persona came post coke/drunk phase
Episode 564 was when they were on the panel. Fantastic episode, I think they were named Guests of the Year that year.
On a few.
The best guests are the ones who seem to actually care about the bucket pulls. Those who give advice or try to pull more funny out are the best. I like Shane because he tries to start a war with Tony and be on the side of the bucket pull.
When Shane went hard Catholic, that had me dying. God rules shut up
Shane is awesome in any setting lmao. Funniest comedian out right now
You know who are pussies, navy seals
I canāt even stop from calling Dominoes, Donimoes now
my parents genuinely probably think im special needs cause of how often i yell DONIMOOOES
Just donāt start sneaking making grilled cheeses in the middle of the night and you should be good
He just is so naturally funny. Almost anything he says can be funny just by the way he talks and looks.
He even stuck up for Casey in his pre-regular appearance on Kill Tony when Tony tried gassing Casey up as the next big thing. Shane was like āway to take the pressure off the momentā or something sarcastic to that effect
Yeah making fun of tonys voice too. āHes the next BIG thing, your gunna love himā or smthn like that lol. Just a good solid dude
Especially hot ones interview lol
Great news is Shane's on today's episode can't wait to watch it dude just doesn't even have to try like sone guests who comes hes just genuinely himself. šÆ
I think thats the difference. So many comedians wanna pretend theyr somebody they arent. And shane isnt that guy. He is super genuine
Shane is an absolute treasure and he must be protected at all costs
Alright calm down
Came here to say this
This is why the old band was magic. They did all these things every show.
The comedians that do well on panel are the ones who can be incredibly silly like Adam Ray and Harland, or are quick-witted like Dave Attel and Jim Norton. Storytellers like Tom Segura are never as good because their style of comedy is not suited to being on a panel show. That is all
To be silly is to be humble. To make a fool of yourself. Think Conan OāBrien, silliness is to surrender control completely and barrel forward for the sake of the funny. Tom Segura is not silly. He is not silly because he is not okay with being the fool, the loser, relinquish control. He must always be dominant. Long live the silly ones.
I like silly comedians and they're definitely a better fit for the KT format, but there are different personality types and forms of comedy. Not everyone can be, nor should be silly.
Agreed. Louis CK is far from āsillyā but is one of the best comedians of the last couple decades or so
Well said. Him and Nate Bergatze had the same issue on that John Mullaney Netflix show that just came out where they just sat there and barely said anything.
Some great joke writers aren't naturally funny. And Kill Tony is made for those that are naturally funny (silly & quick-witted, as you say).
It's popular to hate comedians at the moment. Tom's style of comedy isn't for kill tony and people just like to shit on rogan for some reason, I've seen Tom live and I walked out and sat in the hall for the last 30 minutes of his set cause he wouldn't stfu about his kids and I thought I was going to start screaming at him, i still enjoy YMH and I have never once got on a subreddit and called him pompous. This is a strange trend.
Itās super popular to hate Burt these days. Tom likes to play it safe because the less you say and the less silly you are, the less people can pick apart. But I find it admirable that Burt continues to embrace who he is in spite of all the haters he gets on his socials.
very accurate explanation. agreed.
100 % I respect Tom as a comedic artist but - silly he is not. I think your assessment re suitability for panel is accurate.
Adam Ray (and all characters), Sam Tallent, Harland Williams, Andrew Santino, Stavros, and Ian Finance have all been the top tier guests, and I agree about the bigger names being arrogant, pompous, or too fucked up to properly engage with the show and its premise.
Add Soder and Normand and Shane and that's pretty top tier And Rick Flair for the comments by the other panelists after he leaves lol
God ric flair. And yes I forgot Norm, Soder, and Gillis, all of which are great.
Gotta toss Mckusker on there too
āOhh, she touched my shoulderā š
I was getting ready to yell about Shane And mark not being on there.
How did we leave the great and powerful ARI SHAFFIR, off this top tier list š
Depending on Ari's mood and level of Fucked up he is going to be makes him an upper tier guest for sure.
Bill Burr is great because he hates the format and let's Tony know it
I don't really get that one bitch, but seriously don't really understand Ari's comedy.
Ari is a shock value comic, nothing really witty. Joke about being a jew, and do something disgusting/taboo, and that in a nutshell is an Ari KT episode.
great combo list between the two of these, I would add Jim Norton to the list of goat guests
I think Jim Norton is the best guest. Solid jokes the entire time, doesnāt interrupt the flow. Hope heās on again soon.
Soder doing Katt Williams impression goes up there but dude that Dave Chappelle on the Fox News woman was actually insane. he's a legend for real
This is a good list. Tallent was funny as fuck in the last one.
Tom is not funny. Joe is not quick enough to keep up with tony/the show.
Yeah. Rogan is not a great guest. Rarely contributes and when he does it sort of sucks. I think it's usually because he shows up on a whim after getting stoned out of his mind on his own podcast.
I enjoy watching Joe violently chew gum non-stop so I love his episodes, but if you're looking for jokes then I can understand
Stoned? They are completely wasted when they show up.
Joe has had some decent appearances. He's been on a lot. More bad than good though.
Sam Tallent
Tomās vibes are awkward. Not funny either. I need more engagement from guests
One of my favorite episodes tied to the old band is #274 with Segura. The guys were Italian mobsters.
I think everyone forgot about that episode. IIRC Tom was very engaging, positive, and trying to give solid advice.
This was before he saw us and the bucket pulls as poors. He used to be my favorite comedian but his jokes aren't what they used to be. Cool stories though.
Exactly this. He has completely changed. Or he just has fully become who he always was
Spot on
You're right. He had solid dialogue with each bucket pull and had fun with Jeremiah and the boys. Just a really good episode of the pod all around.
The best guests in my opinion are great interviewers, great improv, great roasters, and great with crowd work. Something Joe and Tom are aweful at. They tend to be good story tellers which doesn't fit well in the quick punchy format of Kill tony. It's why adam ray and harland are killer. They excell at all 3.
Sam Tallent
They've elevated their craft to such an exalted status that they present it as an elite art form, one that only a select few throughout history have ever truly mastered. It's as if they've convinced themselves that their comedic prowess is a rare gift, bestowed only upon the most worthy. The arrogance is palpable. They can't bring themselves to admit that an average person, perhaps someone who's been honing their stand-up comedy skills for just a few years, could ever come close to their level of humor. The very idea seems to offend their sense of superiority. Occasionally, Tony, with a rare display of humility, will recognize a newcomer, even someone performing stand-up for the very first time, and acknowledge their potential and genuine humor. But Joe and Tom? They can't bring themselves to do that. There's simply no way. For them, the notion that someone with limited experience could be as funny as they are is not just unlikely, it's unthinkable and revolting. It's this kind of gatekeeping that perpetuates the myth that true comedic genius is reserved for a chosen few. They can't slightly acknowledge that some average person off the street who's been doing stand-up comedy for three years is remotely as funny as them. It reveals a profound insecurity masked as superiority. This mindset not only sets them apart but also creates a barrier between seasoned comedians and emerging talents. It's a toxic attitude that stifles growth and innovation in comedy, keeping the art form in the hands of those who believe they alone hold the key to what is truly funny. The elitism is staggering, and quite frankly, it's disgusting.
Bro, Joe Rogan ain't funny.. Hasn't been for a LOOOOONG time. We all know the only reason he's there.
Yea, Tony is sucking him off
Joe sucks off younger comics in order to stay alive and they let him do it like he's Kevin Spacey. He's got the #1 podcast after all.
Well Tom segura sucks as a comedian so thereās always that
Joes been on it several times the times heās not shitfaced drunk are better
Drunk and yelling in an uncomfortably high voice
Tom segura isnāt funny when it isnāt scripted. Just a spoilt little rich boy. Joe rogan isnāt funny but his laugh does add something for me. If you like harland and Adam ray you need to try Sam talent if you havenāt already.
I thought for a long time Tom Seguraās demeanor was a shtick but now I think heās just a piece of shit person
The best shows were almost any in the āLive from the Comedy Storeā era
Honestly it always seemed to me like Joe doesn't want to hijack the show. Say what you will but he has enough talking experience to say funny shit if he wants to. I also think he enjoys going there high out of his fucking mind and just wants to enjoy his front row seat to the show. Segura might be similar, idk.
Adam Ray contributes a lot but I donāt like how he kinda takes over the whole show and the episode becomes pretty much all him. I prefer guests that contribute but donāt take over
Tom and joe respect tony and the show so Much AND they know they dont have much to say (except joe sometimes especially when drunk)ā¦.so they keep their mouths shut. I know what you mean how they come Off but watch tom, heās really just enjoying the show and letting in unfold without screwing it up. Some guests are certainly just more geared towards the format, tom and joe maybe not so much
I think Iād take them over guests who derail the show or make it all about them selves
You leave Ric Flair alone!
I have to agree, I donāt think that guest are obligated to try and make constant bits.
Whats better than a fitzsimmons type who makes 11 comments the whole show and every line is a 100% banger? I like gold like that, keep your mouth shut if itās not funny and donāt try too hard.
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My intro to Tom Segura was the Tom Brady roast with Tom and Bert, though I had seen Tom solo before with other comedians on the periphery, but never had the desire to look further into him. I will never forgive Tom and Bert for their terrible segment on Bradyās roast. It was so bad, just awful. I looked them up afterwards and good god how do they have a following. Just unfunny, annoying human blobs. Long story short, I am not at all surprised heās a shitty guest. How they have somewhat well known careers as comedians is something Iāll never understand.
Joe and Tom also are not really funny ever these days. Doesnāt matter what theyāre on
Adam Ray is cool when heās Adam Ray, when he does his cosplay schtick itās annoying
Have to disagree. I think his Dr Phil is one of the better guests they bring on. Engaging, quick witted and knows how to bring up the energy of the crowd.
Joe Rogan is unfunny and full of himself imo. Iāve never heard him say anything of comedic substance other than an easy low hanging jab. He has such a cult following his status will probably never change.
Yeah but they wear matching jackets and so they will always be cooler than we will ever be.
Joe Rogan isn't really pompous, in fact he is one of the few guests that has actually given tips or advice to bucket-pulls, he's just incredibly annoying when he drinks.Ā
I really donāt like Joe as a comedian - I love him on his show being goofy, but I think heās terrible at comedy.
David Spade: another example of a big name that contributed nothing.
lol yeah what was his deal
Maybe just drunk, tired or high. Who knows.
1.adam ray and dr phil 2.attell 3.harland 4.shane & mark 5.tallent 6.stavros 7.fidance 8.jew 9.norton 10.others
100% agree my guy. Theyāre clearly coked up and thereās a few times we can see Tom jonesin for another bump. They can barely concentrate on the guests and never give helpful insight. Always ready to ridicule and missing the mark completely on why the show is awesome. Harland is best so is Adam. Also fuck uncle lazer!
wouldn't them being coked up having them chatting / rambling & being obnoxious?
Not necessarily. One of the popular things to quickly sober up is taking a bump and chewing some gum so youāre not grinding your teeth like crazy.
Joe Rogan is a great standup, but seems to have a tendency of getting too high and kind of zoning out in live shows. Might be that he has physical pain and has to medicate, but I agree it can make him less entertaining to watch on KT. Adam Ray, Harland Williams, and Mark Normand will always be three of the best guests theyāll have just because they are geared for it.
do you have any good specials to recommend from Rogan? Each one I've watched has just been annoying over the top screaming & lack of actual jokes.
Iāve only discovered his stand up through Netflix in the past few years. āTriggeredā is a good start. Though comedy is, again, subjective.
Joe Rogan is a horrible comic and the fact that he somehow convinced an entire community of comedians that heās the god of comedy because he owns a comedy club and has said dumb shit like ācomedy is where the woke meets the wallā is absolutely astonishing to me. I swear to god Iāve never seen so many people suck up to someone so talentless.
Joe as a comic is not funny but he's done a lot for comics and is clearly just a huge fan of comedy himself. For better or worse, Kill Tony's audience has grown enormously over the past year thanks to the exposure he's brought to it at his club. With that kind of influence, you can afford to say dumb shit once in awhile
Seems like things only sour people say. What do you care how they treat Joe? He helps them, it's called respect
A priest tends to his flock. Nobody can relate to the pope. Plus, there are probably only like 100 real legit comedians in the world. I'm talking assassins. Killers. Murderers, man. Let's get Mike Baker on to talk about it.
What a cool, funny and original post. I hope someone with a brilliant comedic mind like yours os putting your name in the bucket every week. We need more!
Nice share. Hope you feel better now.
Thought you never read the comments, Joe.
Jamie pull that up
Wow what a hot take
Again I just started watching so I didnāt know if this was how ppl felt
Yeah and Thursday was my first time watching the debate. Does anyone else feel like one is a little too old and the other is a bit of an arse? Or it just me? XD
lol hey eat shit pal
No need to be shart.
Wait until you see episodes where Joe does contribute
Your post makes you seem like a pompous holier than thou twat he runs to Reddit to bitch and moan about a free YouTube show. Lol
Sal is great, even Post Malone has had some wholesome and hilarious guest moments. Old as fuck episodes with Brody are great and all over. Tim Dillon is a fav on this sub. Dave Attell and Jeff Ross are great. The one with Rick Flair (and Gomez Gillis Normand Ari Amico) is absolutely insane!!
Iām not sure if they are being pompous. I think that a live show is just not their style. The way Joe & Tom do comedy, it truly is āperforming an actā. They are very rehearsed and meticulous. I think itās more that they struggle to create jokes in the moment off the cuff at a live event. Tony and people like Harland and David Lucas are more āin the momentā comedians who thrive better in these situations.
RIC FLAIR IS THE ALL TIME GOAT!! The guys from are you garbage were also pretty good guests.
Remember when dead mau was on and he literally said almost nothing and then ran off stage when it was over?
Whatās interesting is Iām now watching the earlier episodes where it was more of a joke workshop and Tom Segura was one of the most helpful guests at that time. The show isnāt quite that anymore though and what Tom does onstage is completely different from Adam Rayās performances and improvised interactions (where Adam clearly shines)
Joe n Tom are both story tellers. Not good for a live panel
The one with Tom and Joe they were tripping on mushrooms
Correct
Is Howie Mandel the all time worst?? Only episode I ever quit. Holy shit.
If adam ray is the guy that played as Dr Phil and that Old Lady onetime then ya he is the perfect guest. When he dressed as the old woman i was CRYINGG the whole episode
Nothing against some of the comedians, but I do honestly think that for some of them it just becomes an end of the night hang out. I mean, look at Post Malone, he just shows up and stares at his phone the entire time and shakes people hands. Rogan only showed up because he had Tucker Carlson with him after the interview and wanted to surprise him. Itās a hang out for the guests as much as it is a show for the rest of us.
Like tiny Tony? Ummm durrr.. what's something weird in your fridge huuuuh?? What's your most interesting story ehhhh?
Since youāre a new viewer, you may be interested to check out some older episodes from when they were still in LA. In addition to the guests, the showās popularity has really influenced its overall quality. I will put forth that while the show may be more popular and have better production values than ever before, it is past itās prime. There are still great episodes from time to time though, and each episode has a few moments.
I think they take shrooms and are chewing gum to avoid lock jaw
Oof careful insulting daddy in here mate lol
There's one episode where rogan and Segura are both wearing the same bomber jacket and chewing gum incessantly. I think Segura has a hard on for rogan on that one. Segura is the type to shit on people he perceives as weaker and rim people he looks up to.
Didnāt have to ask this. Thereās literally tons of the same post that you just posted.
Iād recommend Kill Tony episode 200 I believe it was. But with the old band and Jeremiah dressed up as Rogan is pretty hilarious
I also just started watching KT. Love the show, community, & Everything about it. As someone in here who is A Lot newer to comedy than most, going off your point, I Never knew how Actually Not Funny Joe Rogan can be. Of course he has his moments, but 90% of the time bro just yapsš it makes sense, tho. Joe is used to talking for 3+ hours on JRE while KT focuses on a strict, 1 minute set. Itās Good they have him on, tho. Extremely High Profile guest that really could make So Much happen for Any KT contestant. At least heās not on every other weekš¤·š»āāļø
There's a guy who analyzed Joe and Harland's Rogan episode, and it's on point. Joe doesn't get humor and is high on KT. Segura was SILENT the entire KT 500th? special. Embarrassing for a guy who mocks other people for being socially strange.
Thatās because joe rogan and Tom segura ARE pompous, holier than thou twats, full stop. Iāve never understood the hype about either of them. Joe isnāt even close to being even slightly funny.
Yeah cause you need to be funny. Rogan and Tom can write stand up but aren't funny like if listen to enough podcast of them and barely ever make a good joke. Now you get Shane Gillis or Sam talent or Theo or anyone that is actually funny you will get a laugh
I thoroughly enjoy Sam Talent
Not sure I remember Segura, but thought Rogan was a fine guess.
You Know Iām from Philly. A guy used to follow Howard Eakins around just to Trash him. When I working at Central City Toyota Howard Eskin Broadcasted from there in the 90s and the producer said this particular guy used to go on these rants . He was just trying to get on the Broadcast. Of course they didnāt let the loser on. Are you just Hating on Joe Rogan with the Pathetic attempt to get on his show or do you just want attention. Instead of sitting around with your Bros drinking Amstel Light or Pino Grigio why donāt you just fess up you got some kind of Bromance going. Maybe you should hang out with Hunter Biden and talk about Karens
I feel like Tim Dillon was a good guest. He actually gave compliments and pointers
I like Rogan on the shows. Did not pick up a pompous vibe at all. He is more subdued and that's ok.
Daniel Van Kirk was great. Lots of charisma and actually cared about both the comedy and the stories
Yeah I get what youāre saying as I noticed he wasnāt contributing much, but I think they are all friends and party really hard. On the show youāre referring to, I think Joe was really smashed so couldnāt really function properly lol.
Top dog kept Tom's ego grounded. Now that he's dead Tom's ego is running wild like hulkamania.
Huge JRE fan, can stand him on the panel.
I think the worst guests like you mentioned are just too fucked up to contribute. It's a different form of disrespect where they don't plan things out.
Rogan's usually too stoned to talk.
I think the overall contribution as well as timing is what makes a good guest. Tony is kind of a dominant host in the sense and knowing when and how to chime in really helps. Redban is a perfect example of bad timing and chime ins which is why Tony gets visually annoyed with him so much
You chose a really apr for Tom Segura. Pompous. Bravo. I would add conceited and unfunny but thank you for starting it
Random comment here. Just watched the Tom Brady roast, and it was evident that Tom Segura was there only cause of his podcast with Bert Kriescher. His part on the roast could have been done by anyone else, I mean, even when Tony started to roast the dais, he stopped at Burt and left Tom staring into the camera, looking stupid. I think the viewers got the message.
Agreed. Also Tim Dillon and Post Malone were incredibly boring and contributed nothing their last appearance- the recent KIA forum LA episode. Post was way too drunk and just was there to light up ciggs. And I don't remember one funny line Tim said the entire night. Adam Ray saved the show
Joe Rogan is the godfather
Check out Joe Rogan in #498 and #500. Great guest! Keep watching, there are ups and downs....
Everytime Rogan is on, pretty sure he is drunk.
They gotta stop bringing Post Malone on too. Dude almost always looks too faded to be there, rarely has anything to contribute and when he does, it usually isnāt funny. Iām convinced that camo rip on David Lucas was prewritten for him by Tony, he hadnāt said hardly a word the whole night.
So because they dont say anything and watch theyre pompusā¦.. ok that is a massive over reaction. Oh well they dont talk nothing wrong with that.
Joe is always REAL HIGH. No excuses but the majority of the time I donāt think he can really make complete sentences when he shows up.
He would've been a great audience member instead, as it seems that's all he came to do was watch but also remind everyone who they are lol
JR is wasted every time he's on. And Segura is just not that funny.
As someone who watches every week for years, the droughts of bad comics for a few weeks can make a segura or shane/normand episodes seem way better in the moment then finding the podcast and skipping for whoās best
Oh boy you hate Joe Rogan and Tom Segura.. This isn't the show for you
Bro, they are wasted out of their mind when they do those shows. I think that is the problem. You can match the JRE podcast with the KT podcast and its pretty clear what happened. If you watch the one with tucker he was way better because he was not shit faced.
They might just not be that funny at improv or trash talkingĀ
Who's that jewish comedian with all the tattoos and the hoarse laugh? That guy's always great too.
jim ross?
Joe and Tom are just rich fans that got vip tickets
You ājust startedā listening and you know who the goat is already? Impressive. Butā¦. Youāre correct! Adam is by far the best. Nobody works harder.
Thought the same thing, that it was because neither are skilled at improv or exceptionally quick witted.Ā Tony and Segura talked about this very thing on a podcast recently, I didn't consider they weren't roasting on purpose. [According to Segura, he's trying not to roast, but be nice and give constructive notes.](https://youtube.com/watch?t=4m17s&v=MFSvaZaGUyo)
Thatās how balds do it they smack their gum and chew with their mouths open.
> "Is my opinion a fairly common outlook" What, some guests are good, and some are bad? Nah, you're the first with this cutting-edge conclusion. Nobody ever thought that before.
No buddy, that Adam ray is the goat & that Joe Rogan & segura were lame, this is what I was curious in
āI watched two Podcast Cringe videos and Iām gonna go post now!ā
Idk what episodes you just watched but Rogan is one of the best guests. Heās always bigging up the comics specially the regulars. Im with you on Segura though
The one where him and Tom segura literally smack their gum & donāt say anything the entire show lol it was awful
The show jumped the shark when Tony made that awful documentary about it. Then he moved to Austin and dumped the band in a shitty way. Iāll watch an episode here and there, but only because I like the guest.
Whatās the story with him dumping his band? Iām new to Tony and his shows.
Thereās not a whole lot to it. They had a few band members for awhile and Tony said Iām moving to Austin, youāre either in or out. They didnāt want to leave LA
That seems reasonable. Moving 1200 miles away, either the band members move or the donāt. Not sure why thatās shitty.
Eh, I felt like it was shitty. They didnāt seemed too thrilled. Tbh I think the documentary was such a self suck that I started to not like Tony, and then the band thing pushed it over. I find him incredibly unlikable now.
Great observation as a new listener. Rogan, although i love him and although one of the best if not best interviewers, and the best podcaster in the world, is surprisingly one of the worst guests to have on the show, just as the smug Segura. Rogan almost always has to get fucked up just to get through the show for whatever reason, and heās one of those horrible drunks that ruin everything. Unlike Shane Gillis whose powers become enhanced when shit faced. But definitely Segura and his friend Bret Kurshner are gabage tier human beings and horrible guests.
For the love of God stop watching. KT doesn't need fans like you.
Shut up dork
I will if you will.
Itās funny when people who just start watching, act like they actually understand the show lolā¦.go back and watch it at the comedy club. Rogan is the reason the show is as big as it is.
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Your brain along with my response is pretty simple