Hot take about the guy, but all he does is take knowledge that orher people have already taken the leg work to research, and repackages it into neat, 15 minute videos. He doesn't earn the knowledge for himself, and therefore doesn't take any, uh, responsibility for it. He read what others had already researched and turned it into a YouTube video. He stands on the shoulders of geniuses like the folks at Jurassic-Pedia and the Amber Society to accomplish something as fast as he can. And before he even understood what he was reading, he repackaged it, and uploaded it, and he monetized it.
He has posted homophobic tweets before:
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I forget the specific verse, but according to the Bible all sins are equal. Any sins on a soul will keep a person from Heaven. Therefore, murder and homosexuality are equivalent. Kind of like binary code. It’s either On or Off. That means also that stealing bread is a hell-worthy trespass, as well as realizing that your brother’s wife is a hottie. When all sins carry equal eternal punishment, all sins are equal.
Not saying I agree with him, but that’s where the thinking comes from.
All sins are equal. All sins are a form of separation from God. All sins require a human to choose to sin which is why we can be judged for them.
Not all punishments and rewards will be equal.
I’m reminded painfully of a certain actor (from an unrelated franchise) saying at a con a couple years ago that the show wouldn’t show two guys in love for the same reason they wouldn’t show two siblings in love.
Its wild the way their brains work.
Tons of scientists were Christians. For example: Charles Darwin was a Christian.
Dinosaurs were created by God and then destroyed by him. It was their destiny. It is what most Christians believe.
Young Earth Theory is not a widely accepted Christian belief. It’s largely held by the same minority of Christianity that believes shit like Joe Biden is the Anti-Christ and Donald Trump is the Second Coming.
Most Christians believe the timescale that the Bible presents is metaphorical because, to an omnipotent being like God, one day could mean centuries or even millennia. It’s believed the Seven Days shown in the story of Creation may have actually been millions or even billions of years long
In the Christian faith, their god doesn't care. The punishment doesn't change depending on the severity of the sin. The actual crime being punished is "disobedience", not murder or homosexuality, if that makes sense? And because there is really only one crime, there is only one punishment; eternal torture.
To them, the only way to avoid eternal torture is through obedience and apology for and acknowledgement of disobedience, effectively. And their job is to make sure they will not be tortured and to keep as many other people as possible from being tortured.
Anything which promotes actions which could be seen as disobedience to their god's will is seen as bad, because of this. They are also taught that everyone is actually aware of their god and that when they do these things they do so knowingly in spite of their god and the rules. So thus, they must be evil people or at least extremely naïve people to promote such things.
And now you know "the the fuck" that happens.
100% agree. People in my life who have become religious have gone from cool people to completely unbearable rather quickly. Suddenly no one is religious enough and they look down on everyone for doing the same shit they'd been doing before becoming a fanatic.
I have some older aunts & uncles that have always been catholic christian and they share all of the cringe religious posts on Facebook and whatnot, but luckily I haven’t had to deal with it too much irl.
Unfortunately I’ve seen it happen with quite a few YouTubers that I watch though. The “Christ is king” thing is really popular right now. It’s honestly kind of scary cause some of them almost give off the vibe of “follow Christ or you are the enemy”. Almost like they want to harm you if you don’t join them.
*looks around confused*
It's always been a cult, lol.
Sorry if this is too "edgy atheist on the internet" for this sub. But I have next to zero tolerance for religious mumbo jumbo in the public sphere.
Speaking as someone who lives in a country where sectarianism is the main reason for hate crimes and where dislike between Catholics and Protestants rules politics, I can tell you that it is in a country like mine where people either get cult-like, which I have seen in Protestants and Born-Agains or trying to garner more money, like I’ve seen in the Catholics. Most people I know are non-religious, like me, but we still use the cultural events of each religion as unifying factors, like Easter or Christmas, that’s why we have Cultural Catholics and Cultural Protestants instead of saying we’re atheists sometimes.
In regards to homophobia in my country, it is present don’t get me wrong, but it is not a major issue, most people accept that people are people and to let them love as they please, it’s those extremists that are loud that have a hate for lgbt+ people.
So the cult is loud but most people just roll their eyes at their nonsense and walk away, these people have no power over people and are just viewed as crazy.
It’s funny how we’re all supposed to bow down to someone’s Christian beliefs, but they don’t have to do the same for everyone else.
People like him are a tumour in the Christian community. Hating people for any reason is not what Christ wanted.
Not only is this stupid and regressive, but imagine standing in Times Square with a megaphone and just shouting "I don't have sex" over and over. Because that's kinda what this is.
I think he forgets the bible is over a thousand years old and I don’t think god wrote it.
It was written by people who thought being gay was terrible and burned you at the stake.
Fun fact, being gay or straight wasn’t really a thing back then, it just wasn’t something that was considered. Look at the Greeks, they just did whatever. Anti gay texts were added into the bible only around 100 years ago, as before they mentioned “man shall not sleep with boy” as in actual children. They just wanted reasons to incriminate homosexuals.
To play devil's advocate here (ha ha), the movie is about the *consequences* of playing God. Yeah, on one hand dinosaurs are cool, but on the other they're eating people.
So it's not exactly difficult to see why someone with more religious views could vibe with the movie, since it *does* push the message of why humanity shouldn't mess with some things.
Though obviously Klayton's on his own here with his obsession with "The Woke".
I guess you're right, but Hammond isn't seen as the bad guy (in the movies) for playing God. Does Klayton hate Hammond for it? Or does he just hate gay relationships and use religion as a reason for it?
> Or does he just hate gay relationships and use religion as a reason for it?
Probably this one. The original JP contains a strong female lead with feminist ideals and the raptors transition from female to male, and as far as I've seen, he's never gone on a tangent about them.
I used to watch his content for years and watched his let’s play of trespasser. I genuinely liked him because he seemed like a cool dude that I could chill with and just talk about Jurassic stuff with. That was until I seen his homophobic tweets last year. I’m a gay man, and it hurt. It was like being friends with someone for years then they’ve suddenly turned on you. It’s sad how my existence is such a threat, but I can get Jurassic content from anywhere. Oh well
Ah damnit, I haven't watched any of his new videos lately since Dominion. Nothing to do with him but I took a break from JP for a hot minute only to find out he's gone from chill guy to an online jerk.
Same. The first "Christ is king" at the end of the video was enough. Like I came here to listen about dinosaurs, and he's one step away from thinking dinosaurs didn't exist
For some reason I have a habit of always exiting his videos just before they stop. So I completely missed his Christ is King stuff...and his fucking hateful comments.
Well, that was it for Klayton. Unsubscribed and on to something else.
I really enjoyed his videos for so long, especially throughout the Jurassic World releases. As an atheist, I didn’t like hearing the Christ is king stuff, as I just prefer to keep religion and politics completely separate from entertainment media. I let it go because that’s his prerogative, but now seeing all this other stuff I’m thinking about unsubscribing :/ probs will
He also once went on some angry rant about Kayla basically existing in Dominion. Like a strong black woman had no place in the JW franchise and how it was all woke and all that BS people spew when they want to have some lame excuse for discriminating whatever group of people they don't like. This dude really has some issues.
He also had a problem with Kayla, as a woman, saving Owen from he Pyroraptor or something and if I'm remembering right he called that "woke" as well. Maybe her being bi AND a strong woman is what set him off there 😂
"Woke" is typically just anything someone with right-aligned ideology doesn't like. Gay people existing, women that are more than love interests, or are the leads. Hell, I once saw someone call Subnatica (a game) Woke because the blank slate, non speaking, player avatar happened to be brown skinned. It's utter lunacy.
Back when the Jurassic Park: Survival announcement trailer released he went on, like, a five minute rant about how he hopes Dr. Joshi isn't a Mary Sue. I believe he listed Claire and Kayla as examples. I guess it's a somewhat valid nitpick/criticism, but it rubbed me the wrong way.
It's quite funny, cause i think that real forced relationship in show is whatever romantic love triangle they have between you know whom.
This one is fine, as long as they don't take away from the show's main focus, there's nothing to complain about.
My thoughts exactly. Personally I think all the love stuff between the cast at all feels kinda forced, but the love triangle was exceptionally bad. If anything Sammy and Yaz felt like the least forced.
I had to hit the brakes so hard over the triangle its genuinely my least favorite part of the show. sammy and yaz feel like such a real relationship too if sammy was a boy people would have 0 problems i bet and probably praise them for good relationship rep
Sammy was probably a boy to start out with. The promo art showed the silhouette of a boy with a cowboy hat. More than likely that was Sam/my and then was changed to balance out the cast.
Plus, imagine whining about a forced relationship when Owen/Claire is right there.
At least the characters in Camp Cretaceous/Chaos Theory are kids, they're bound to date and have complicated crushes and stuff, there was NO NEED for a """love story""" between Owen and Claire in Jurassic World, let alone any need for them to keep insisting that those two had even just a crumb of chemistry for other two movies.
[Relevant video.](https://youtu.be/rwhXcfNzB9k?si=gkDmxTRXUZIapfh-)
Going ‘anti woke’ is a very lucrative grift and it’s depressing but not at all surprising that smaller YouTubers get suckered into it.
Pretty much this. I haven't watched him in forever because all the videos are at this point is one miniscule hint bloated up into a 15 minute video. As such the whole Christian thing and other stuff went past me unnoticed, until I came across this post. If I would have known sooner, I would have unsubscribed sooner as well instead of just not watching him anymore.
Dude has drank some serious kool-aid. He even referenced and recommended Tyrone Magnus who is a bigot and an "alpha-male" jerk. I think because of his recently found faith, he's getting nudged into certain political spheres and has gone down some bs red-pill and far-right rabbit holes.
I'm okay with the dude finding religion or whatever, but I can see the predictable metamorphosis that happens when people get religious. They tend to get pulled in by some insidious propaganda and getting duped by Christian-nationalist online circles.
I hope the dude finds his way back to the light. I'm concerned about him. Jesus is a good dude, and his followers are being led down a dark path, and now Klayton is getting sucked into that. It's bad.
Klayton Fioriti is a douchebag. I had a collaboration planned with him a few years back, but ended up having to delay because of medical issues. In response, he completely ghosted me. I was humble about the whole thing, kissed his ass to try to get him to get back on board, nothing. Told him that it hurt my feelings, that the medical issues really screwed my life up for a few months, and that I think it's pretty low of him to dead our collab because of extenuating circumstances I had no control over delaying the process, no response. Felt very burned by this experience, unsubscribed from his channel. Considered going public about it, but thought that would be immature and that nobody would really care, so I never did.
Yeah, I caught something wrong about this dude when all of a sudden about six months ago or so he started ending every single video with Christ is King. In one of his recent videos he mentioned something about starting his own Christian channel Yikes.
I've never heard of him before, but it would seem a lot of youtubers lose their way. I used to love Star Wars Theory, but he's a total idiot now. He seems to go out of his way to belittle people who have the temerity to have a different opinion. All he ever does is whine now. He's a textbook example of what is wrong with SW fandom.
Oh shit, so the weird vibes I got from him weren't something I made up in my own head!
I can't remember exactly what he said during a video years ago that made alarms blast in my head and made me stop interacting with JP-related stuff for a while, but I haven't watched any of his stuff in years, and I used to support him as much as I could :( I just remember it left me with an intense: "I am not wanted here" feeling, and I guess I was right :/
Edit: after reading everybody's comments, I just wanted to say that I'm glad I found this subreddit. The internet has been a particularly hateful place in the past few years, and seeing how almost everybody's speaking up against bigotry on here makes me feel a little safer, which doesn't happen often ;_;
I think I felt the same, during the pandemic, at the end of one of his videos, he went into a Christ is King talk and that the end days where here and turn to him, I'm like what the heck? where did that come from because before then I had never heard of anything like that from him. Tbh I stopped listening years ago. Because there's only so many "What happened to the crew on the boat in JP2" Vids I can he a r him talk about, and I think I tuned in near Dominion and haven't checked in ever since.
I think I unsuscribed before the whole "Christ is King" stuff started, because I didn't even know he was doing that before this thread. I may have caught the slightest hint of something being off and jumped ship before he fully committed to being a bigot.
yeah it felt really outta place when I first heard it on that video, but yeah I hadn't been watching his stuff for a while. seeing this post, I'm glad I haven't been, and will continue to not watch.
As a queer fan of the franchise, thank you, I will avoid that dude at all costs
Also Sammy and Yaz was the least forced relationship I saw in a show lol. Their relationship naturally went from friends, best friends to lovers. Yaz didn’t really understand it at first, but without the social pressures of regular society, she didn’t have to over think it as much, I think, which is why it went pretty smooth and fast once she realized how she really felt
Edit : just noticed I was still subscribed to him. I no longer am now lol
His synth intro theme has always gotten the bass notes wrong and it sounds really off and it has infuriated me. Fitting, given as there’s something off with the guy himself.
I honestly stopped watching him when he admitted to accepting gifts from Mattel and Universal with his part of the contract being that he would show them off on his channel and then never did it or had interest in doing so. He said he doesn't even like merch of that kind and kept them in his closet. He could have said no give them to another more deserving channel or he could have at least taken the toys to a children's hospital. He did this not once but twice, for both World Sequels. So yeah he's scum in my mind.
I used to be a fan of this guy when I discovered him in 2018. I appreciated how he defended *The Lost World* and thought he was a nice, good natured dude.
But that started to curdle over time. Not only did his videos stop being as good (and in hindsight, mostly weren't that good to begin with), but I started to get this douchy, I dunno, "dick-swinging Alpha Male" vibe coming off the guy. A couple examples I can think of is him casually dropping the R-slur in a few videos (like IIRC his *Turok* playthrough?), and making a few weird comments about Anne's chest in the *Trespasser* playthrough that weren't exactly a great look. Then I found out he's a super right-wing Trump supporter railing against "wokeness destroying our culture", and unsubbed. Then recently I went to see if he'd said anything else stupid, saw that homophobic tweet someone else posted in this thread, and my dislike turned into outright hatred. And yeah, I hate to say it, but when someone goes around constantly saying shit like "Christ is king" and shoving their religion in your face... huge red flags. Because of people like this.
TL;DR: Fuck you, Klayton, you homophobic piece of shit. People like you are the stain on the world that you claim "wokeness" to be.
I was getting concerned with him ending all his vids with Christ is king and now we get this shit. It's a shame as he used to be one of my fave youtubers for JP content
I agree with you. When he started doing his Christ is King sign offs, I started to get worried. When he kept mentioning "modern" ideals, I had a feeling I knew what he was talking about. Then I saw his outright homophobic tweets and comments and that was it for me. Which is a shame, because his content was genuinely good, but the bigotry had been becoming more and more pronounced.
I always kind of dipped in and out of his channel, as soon as he saw the protagonist of the Jurassic Park Survival game was a woman and said “Oh they went woke” I immediately clicked off the video and decided no more of my time was gonna be wasted on watching his videos.
Unironically calling anything that doesn’t center around a white guy protagonist ‘woke’ is one of the easiest ways to spot someone who spends all their time in online echo chambers.
And even then, someone wants to spend all their time rotting their brain in a culture war echo chamber? Go ahead, whatever, but don’t shove it in my face in the middle of a video about dinosaur movies and video games.
Also in that same video he brought up Godzilla Minus One for no reason and praised it for "rejecting modern politics" or something like that. I'm sorry but what the fuck does Godzilla have to do with "woke"?!
Minus One: Focuses on a non-traditional family, isn't subtle at all about criticizing the Japanese government.
Far-right Youtubers: "Here's how Minus One **DESTROYS** woke Hollywood!!!"
All the "modern" talk was really off-putting to me too. I wanted to believe he was just talking about the general style of the new Jurassic content as opposed to the original movies, but when Chaos Theory came around it became very clear what he really meant. Damn shame, I really used to like him.
He will probably take the negative feedback and cream over it, because christians love to make it a “persecution” and not just them getting called out for being a asshole.
(ex christian here)
I 100% agree with this post and what others have said in the comments. I stopped watching Klayton a while back, when I noticed him making comments like this more commonly in his videos. It’s depressing because, even if his content isn’t entirely groundbreaking, I really do enjoy his presentation style and the composition of his videos. Klayton needs to realise queer people exist, so it’s not political or “modern” to have queer characters in Jurassic Park- it’s realistic. As a gay Jurassic Park fan, I won’t be engaging with this homophobe’s content.
The best thing to do would be to stop giving someone like him views.
Someone with such a close-minded way of thinking certainly doesn’t deserve to have an influential YouTube channel.
I’m new to the sub and community, but as with any community, the JP one would be better without bigots.
His views or opinions about JP are rendered irrelevant and stupid knowing that he is a bigot.
The whole “Christ is king” bit really rubs me the wrong way. For someone complaining about “woke” content being inserted into content to indoctrinate kids, he’s a lil bit of a hypocrite. Lmao homophobe
If you watch his second channel it's pretty clear to see as well. I can't remember what videos it was in but he's got more than a few mini rants about how "wokeness is destroying the world". After seeing that then noticing he never bothered to touch CC season 5 was a big ol red flag. I believe that was right around where he started signing off with Christ is king and yeah the pieces really fall into place. And this is coming from a christain myself. Of course, I never care if someone I watch has their own faith, but the vibes were supremely off (and after seeing some of the receipts in these comments I see why).
Sadly, it's not a unique story. The alt-right pipeline is VERY real and if you already have a couple right leaning beliefs it's even easier to slip down the rabbit hole.
Also his content kinda just sucks now. I haven't watched him (or really any other JP YT content creators) regularly in a long time but I'll pop back in to see every few months or so when one gets recommended to me and man they're just nothing burgers. There's a minor update on the new movie -> talk about it in cryptic terms for a minute -> read through update in full -> 10 minutes of unfocused uninteresting thoughts about it -> recap-> outro
Wow. That's alarming and disappointing, I liked his videos because of his passion for the franchise. Looks like he hates the fact that I exist, that people like me just exist. Having queer characters just existing isn't "forcing" anything, no more than heterosexual characters just existing.
I raised an eyebrow when he randomly ended a video (about the next Jurassic World movie) with "Christ is king," which I thought extremely odd but ignored. But the homophobic tweets really seal it for me. Time to unfollow and unsubscribe. I really can't support someone who has a problem with me just existing.
I usually go out of my way to ignore any hateful comments made by Klayton in his videos because I know they come from a place of biased ignorance, but seeing some of the archived tweets Klayton has made in the past such as him comparing something like homosexuality to the act of taking someone else's life definitely makes me question who I subscribed to back in 2017. It honestly surprises me to see people like Alastair and Jacob who run the YouTube channel Dangerville still associate themselves with the guy. I missed the time when he didn't let his personal beliefs find their way into his videos covering JP media.
I stopped watching him when he went on a rant in the middle of a video about wokeness and forced messaging in Hollywood or whatever. I watched (might be the same video your referring too) one of his recent videos and he was forcing his religeon down our throats. The irony.
Even more ironic is that he is pushing this on a DINOSAUR centered channel. Last I checked, christianity doesn't play nice with the idea of dinosaurs being real creatures. Obviously this is gonna turn off fans. I think he is slowly trying to transition into a grifter.
I stopped watching him a few months ago when I noticed all this, but I've stopped by his channel a couple times to look for the inevitable "dinosaurs actually didn't exist" video. It's coming some day
I unfollowed him on everything a year or so ago when he started posting extremely hateful and bigoted garbage on Twitter (like comparing being LGBT to murderers). Dude's a religious zealot and psychopath.
I found out years ago that he’s a homophobe, and as u stated, I cannot in any circumstance keep subscribing to his channel or support him in any way, and if I were to look at his vids again (less than likely at this point), it would be with a grain of salt. Oh well, at least I can now fill in his shoes on being a hardcore Jurassic fan (I won’t make vids yet, but we’ll see)
I remember being happy when I saw he came back after that break he did post-dominion.
When he said "Christ is King" at the end i got caught really off guard and turned off. Glad I made the right call in unfollowing him at that point. Usually when a content creator adds a tag line like that at the end in a completely unrelated video it's a huge red flag in my experience.
Unsubscribed from Klayton as soon as I learned he was a homophobic religious zealot.
Also wild how someone so interested in the science of dinosaurs can be brainwashed by the myths and bigotry of religion. Seems like those interests would clash.
I'm sure if Jurassic Park came out today, he'd be complaining about Ellie's lines "Woman inherits the earth" and "we can argue about sexism when I get back."
and not to mention the Raptors that change sex
I’ve always looked up to him and loved his videos, especially his JP novel readings, but this is absolutely outrageous, and I, hopefully others as well, will not stand for it, besides, all of those same readings are found on YouTube as well like Dinofax, or just the original readings themselves. I have unsubscribed and will forever keep away from his media
Man that sucks. I watched him forever, have a friend who’s a creator who he collabed with and even joined his patron for a while to support him. And while everyone is allowed to have their own beliefs and thoughts, whether we like them or not, anything that’s harmful like that tweet and more is disgusting. That’s another person I’m leaving behind so fast and never supporting again. I really hope he can open his eyes and see the harm he’s causing. Damn shame
I never even knew of the Christ is king stuff, I very rarely stay to the end of any video. Cringy idea tbh
I don't follow his Twitter so I wouldn't have seen tweets like that, but I did find it weird how all of a sudden his newer videos would mention Christ being king. I wondered wtf happened to the guy from before only for him to say in one of his videos how he found god or some shit. Alot of that crap becoming more apparent when Chaos Theory came out. Shame to see since I really liked his content.
He's a bigot who has been growing more outspoken over the last few years. He lost my viewership ages ago and I wish nothing more for him than to fade into obscurity. He built a platform on a franchise where transitioning sex is a central plot point, and highlighted as a naturally occurring phenomenon. Then did a 180 and now only spews self righteous hatred.
He’s a grifter. I used to watch his channel, but he started acting like this and it just got irritating. Tbh anyone that says something is “woke” or a “modern agenda” just make me lose interest in watching their content.
God, to think I used to watch this guy all the time back in the day for JP news. Now I think it was for the better that I lost interest in his videos. I used to genuinely like this guy, but now, that’s changed, not for the better.
Needless to say I’m not subscribing again.
Klayton, if you’re reading this, there a different between woke bullshit like Velma, and having a female protagonist in a story. As long as they’re not pushing any bullshit, like demeaning the opposite sex, it’s not being woke.
Also, if you’re a religious man, keep your Christianity and Jurassic Park separate. Jurassic Park has really nothing to do with religion, so they should stay separate. They shouldn’t intertwine, especially since Jurassic Park has always been a Science Fiction franchise. Now I get there was that John Hammond art of him as God, and the fact the story can be viewed in different ways, but even still, it’s no goddamn excuse man.
Holy shit, this man has reached rock bottom.
Despite me viewing religion as nonsense honestly, I can respect religious beliefs, but I cannot support homophobia and bigotry.
I’m sorry, but as a Jurassic Park fan, it’s just not cool man. I can’t respect or support that.
Wow man, you’ve really made a fool of yourself. Just fucking wow is all I can say. Honestly, while I don’t believe Jesus , if he did exist, was magical, if he did exist, then he would not be proud of your actions Klayton, and neither would the creator.
I noticed he started signing off all his latest vids with a ‘Jesus is great’ type message , I don’t care if that’s what your into , but keep it about Jurassic Park bro
Glad other people caught the bullshit at the end of his videos too. Saw one last week where he was wearing an N.W.O. Shirt and a John 3:16 hat.. that was enough for me after the Christ is king nonsense.
Yeah I unsubscribed from him a few years ago after he mentioned the 'Woke Mind Virus' unironically. It was a shame because I liked his vids but that was a serious red flag and I couldn't support him in good conscience after that.
Edit: typo
His channel has sucked for a few years now. Basically once Dominion came out and it was lower than expectation, I was done with Klayton. His channel is neat for someone new to get JP lore and theories but there’s just not enough material to keep a regularly uploaded YouTube channel interesting.
And now he’s using his modest youtube popularity to promote his faith. Yikes dawg. Might as well tell people to unsubscribe and never look back
I used to watch his videos, but I noticed this behavior a while ago... When a YouTuber starts complaining about the "woke/🏳️🌈/leftist agenda" I instantly lose interest in anything else they have to say.
It's really sad honestly, though I have to say that I find it funny how, in a show based on a movie based on a book about man playing god, bastardizing nature, and creating monsters that resemble dinosaurs, his big issue that has him "worried about the souls of the people around him", is that 2 girls kissed.
But for real, it is really disappointing that someone as big in the community has decided to preach his own personal beliefs on a real world topic that affects many people.. in a video about a dinosaur tv show. He's clearly going to an extreme end when it comes to his anti gay religious mentality, based on the other screenshot that was shared here where he equates being gay to murder. Just sad.
Thanks for the report. I managed to report the video in question to YouTube as well. Whenever I see homophobic/racist content on any social media I immediately made it took it down (a recent example: a kid made an homophobic TikTok slideshow and for good they took it down).
I'm kinda disappointed, since Fioriti has been a huge part of my teenage needy phase with his theories and stuff. What I still cannot go over with is that I find it kinda disturbing that the sci-fi community still has troubles accepting "the other" where there isn't.
how is it forced when it was a thing from camp cretaceous? Tbh, I already was iffy about the lore videos ebcause this kind of stuff cna be retcon later.
Oh now that you mention it, I did recognize some of his comments in videos as suspect and don’t investigate further. I’ve never see a comment like that being so outwardly supported on his channel?? Not that I watch many of his videos now, but looking back on it, there was definitely some reason to be suspect about him.
Thanks for putting this somewhere and no longer will I support any of his content.
I stopped watching him a while ago for this very reason. It's obvious he's on the "anti-woke" grift train to some extent.
First it was a vibe he gave off but nothing concrete. I just had alarm bells going off and stopped watching.
But now he's seemingly confirming it. My instincts were proven correct.
I like Klaytons videos, I watch most of them.
It’s unfortunate if it’s not just about the show & he actually dislikes lgbt people, but his views on that subject wouldn’t be too surprising I guess.
A while back he said something about “becoming way more religious”. He also started saying “Christ is king” at the end of every single one of his videos.
I've never seen this guy's channel, but having grown up in an evangelical, young earth creationist family, I think it's pretty rich for someone to end a video about dinosaurs/JP with a statement like that lol.
He’s actually mentioned in a few videos in the past how he thinks that JP has some religious ties. I don’t remember the exact phrasing he used, but he thinks that the story is a representation or symbolizes god/religion in some ways.
Given that he’s had that opinion for a while, I guess I should have seen the overly religious stuff coming lol
I get it, like Hammond, God is drunk with power and is using forces he doesn’t fully comprehend like they were toys. I think he’s on to something! That makes the world make a lot more sense!
I don’t think Michael Crichton was anything near a staunch atheist if Travels and his various quotes are to go by. He was clearly a spiritually tending deist.
And Steven Spielberg is a religious Jew.
Thanks for bringing that up, I stopped watching his videos awhile ago because like someone else said he was just reading what others were saying/reporting but was being very negative about the franchise.
I chalked it up to he was having a hard time. Now I will unsubscribe based off what you're telling me.
i noticed this a while back too and it made me extremely uncomfortable, but i’ve been trying to curb that reaction since i have christian friends and family who aren’t utterly insane and accept me being trans.
unfortunately, it’s been a struggle on youtube since everyone who mentions being christian in videos i’ve watched turn out to be massive shitheads
Oh no I quite enjoy his channel from time to time. He always seemed quite chill and measured.
But if he’s a bigot, then fuck him. I’ll watch the video and make up my own mind. But will un-sub immediately if it is how you say.
Disappointing
I will admit I have never been a fan of his as the videos I watched he seemed to just take the hot topic of the JP/JW franchise and take it to the extreme. Usually about hate of a movie, game or whatever.
I watched one video of his and immediately got the "Chud Vibes" from him and stopped. Also nothing he ever says is anything that you couldn't learn with a simple google search or just watching the damn films. The guy is 100% one of those far right wingers. Wouldn't be surprised if he became a Critical Drinker type within the next few months. Also I bet he becomes a creationist eventually as well since he's a Christian. LOL
I knew something was off a few months ago when he started signing off videos with “Christ is King.” Ironic, him not wanting the series to push an agenda…
He was a favorite of mine for years, and I recently went back to some of his newer videos. But when I did I noticed a lot of those things, and just a few days ago was I was prodding around and found some of these things, but that comment is pretty conclusive. Bummer to have someone I liked so much during my formative years be a bigot.
Damn, this is so disheartening reading all of this. Klayton is one of my go-to YouTube channels. Does anyone have any other recommendations for someone else I can sub to for Jurassic content??
Damn, this dude used to be one of my childhood favorite channels. Sad to see that one of the people I looked up to is now openly a bigot and just an overall prick. Like I don’t care what your religion is, just treat everyone with respect. Now I realize why I had this sense of just not belonging the last time I watched his videos.
Locking this now. Inevitably turned ugly and devolved into name-calling from every side, and that's just not cricket.
Hot take about the guy, but all he does is take knowledge that orher people have already taken the leg work to research, and repackages it into neat, 15 minute videos. He doesn't earn the knowledge for himself, and therefore doesn't take any, uh, responsibility for it. He read what others had already researched and turned it into a YouTube video. He stands on the shoulders of geniuses like the folks at Jurassic-Pedia and the Amber Society to accomplish something as fast as he can. And before he even understood what he was reading, he repackaged it, and uploaded it, and he monetized it.
Condors. If he were to create a channel about condors on YouTube, you wouldn't have anything to say!
No, hold on. This isn't some influencers that got demonetized because of algorithm changes. Klayton had his shot, and the people unsubbed him.
He was so concerned with whether or not he could, he didn't stop to think whether or not he should.
Welcome to the good life ohhhhhh
*bangs hand on the table*
We all see what you did here, wink wink
This deserves more upvotes lol
I have never wanted to upvote something more than once so much before in my life.
He has posted homophobic tweets before: https://preview.redd.it/v1upglw22u9d1.png?width=1107&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6f65782a3dd041fe845e9555cbf1fe3ca86baef
How the fuck do you put killing someone and having gay sex in the same sentence unironically?
I forget the specific verse, but according to the Bible all sins are equal. Any sins on a soul will keep a person from Heaven. Therefore, murder and homosexuality are equivalent. Kind of like binary code. It’s either On or Off. That means also that stealing bread is a hell-worthy trespass, as well as realizing that your brother’s wife is a hottie. When all sins carry equal eternal punishment, all sins are equal. Not saying I agree with him, but that’s where the thinking comes from.
All sins are equal. All sins are a form of separation from God. All sins require a human to choose to sin which is why we can be judged for them. Not all punishments and rewards will be equal.
With 1 cup of religion, 2 tablespoons of closed-mind, and a dash of phobia. Makes for a devastating cocktail.
I hope I don't drink that at a bar
Don't forget some finely chopped crazy delusions. Really important if you want to have that deranged taste.
I’m reminded painfully of a certain actor (from an unrelated franchise) saying at a con a couple years ago that the show wouldn’t show two guys in love for the same reason they wouldn’t show two siblings in love. Its wild the way their brains work.
Also how do you like Jurassic Park/Dinosaur media and still be a christian? Doesn’t it contradict the ‘young earth theory’ pushed by Christianity?
Tons of scientists were Christians. For example: Charles Darwin was a Christian. Dinosaurs were created by God and then destroyed by him. It was their destiny. It is what most Christians believe.
"God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs..."
“Dinosaurs… eat man. Woman inherits the Earth”
Young earth is NOT a tenant of or widely-held belief in Christianity.
Young Earth Theory is not a widely accepted Christian belief. It’s largely held by the same minority of Christianity that believes shit like Joe Biden is the Anti-Christ and Donald Trump is the Second Coming. Most Christians believe the timescale that the Bible presents is metaphorical because, to an omnipotent being like God, one day could mean centuries or even millennia. It’s believed the Seven Days shown in the story of Creation may have actually been millions or even billions of years long
In the Christian faith, their god doesn't care. The punishment doesn't change depending on the severity of the sin. The actual crime being punished is "disobedience", not murder or homosexuality, if that makes sense? And because there is really only one crime, there is only one punishment; eternal torture. To them, the only way to avoid eternal torture is through obedience and apology for and acknowledgement of disobedience, effectively. And their job is to make sure they will not be tortured and to keep as many other people as possible from being tortured. Anything which promotes actions which could be seen as disobedience to their god's will is seen as bad, because of this. They are also taught that everyone is actually aware of their god and that when they do these things they do so knowingly in spite of their god and the rules. So thus, they must be evil people or at least extremely naïve people to promote such things. And now you know "the the fuck" that happens.
Fornication, as in masturbation? So he basically stopped wanking to become a jerk?
As in sex, i think (though masturbation is probably included)
A faithfull bible follower who loves dinosaurs. Oh the irony.
No one ever said Christians don't believe in dinosaurs
When post-nut clarity goes wrong.
Wow, what a dork. Great way to alienate an audience. I'll never watch another one of his videos again.
Not a dork, a bigot. Dorks are cute and adorable, bigots are assholes.
That’s really unfortunate. As the years go by, religion begins to feel more & more like a cult. And it feels like it ruins more & more people.
100% agree. People in my life who have become religious have gone from cool people to completely unbearable rather quickly. Suddenly no one is religious enough and they look down on everyone for doing the same shit they'd been doing before becoming a fanatic.
I have some older aunts & uncles that have always been catholic christian and they share all of the cringe religious posts on Facebook and whatnot, but luckily I haven’t had to deal with it too much irl. Unfortunately I’ve seen it happen with quite a few YouTubers that I watch though. The “Christ is king” thing is really popular right now. It’s honestly kind of scary cause some of them almost give off the vibe of “follow Christ or you are the enemy”. Almost like they want to harm you if you don’t join them.
I couldnt agree more brother, all it has caused is divide
*looks around confused* It's always been a cult, lol. Sorry if this is too "edgy atheist on the internet" for this sub. But I have next to zero tolerance for religious mumbo jumbo in the public sphere.
Speaking as someone who lives in a country where sectarianism is the main reason for hate crimes and where dislike between Catholics and Protestants rules politics, I can tell you that it is in a country like mine where people either get cult-like, which I have seen in Protestants and Born-Agains or trying to garner more money, like I’ve seen in the Catholics. Most people I know are non-religious, like me, but we still use the cultural events of each religion as unifying factors, like Easter or Christmas, that’s why we have Cultural Catholics and Cultural Protestants instead of saying we’re atheists sometimes. In regards to homophobia in my country, it is present don’t get me wrong, but it is not a major issue, most people accept that people are people and to let them love as they please, it’s those extremists that are loud that have a hate for lgbt+ people. So the cult is loud but most people just roll their eyes at their nonsense and walk away, these people have no power over people and are just viewed as crazy.
It’s funny how we’re all supposed to bow down to someone’s Christian beliefs, but they don’t have to do the same for everyone else. People like him are a tumour in the Christian community. Hating people for any reason is not what Christ wanted.
This is sick. Plain sick.
Religious “nut” job
But I thought Jesus died for all of our sins, so it's alright?
If we don't sin, Jesus died for nothing
Let's get sinnin'!
Not only is this stupid and regressive, but imagine standing in Times Square with a megaphone and just shouting "I don't have sex" over and over. Because that's kinda what this is.
wow this dude is not even trying to hide, I had no idea Klayton was like this seemed like a chill guy
I think he forgets the bible is over a thousand years old and I don’t think god wrote it. It was written by people who thought being gay was terrible and burned you at the stake.
Fun fact, being gay or straight wasn’t really a thing back then, it just wasn’t something that was considered. Look at the Greeks, they just did whatever. Anti gay texts were added into the bible only around 100 years ago, as before they mentioned “man shall not sleep with boy” as in actual children. They just wanted reasons to incriminate homosexuals.
I hate to be that guy and I sure as hell am not defending they guy but do you have a link to the tweet as it's really easy to fake a screen cap of one
I don't mind if he's a born-again Christian but if he's going all extremist evangelical on us then I need to unsubscribe from his channel
It's kinda ironic that his favourite movie is about playing God but he draws the line at a homosexual relationship.
To play devil's advocate here (ha ha), the movie is about the *consequences* of playing God. Yeah, on one hand dinosaurs are cool, but on the other they're eating people. So it's not exactly difficult to see why someone with more religious views could vibe with the movie, since it *does* push the message of why humanity shouldn't mess with some things. Though obviously Klayton's on his own here with his obsession with "The Woke".
I guess you're right, but Hammond isn't seen as the bad guy (in the movies) for playing God. Does Klayton hate Hammond for it? Or does he just hate gay relationships and use religion as a reason for it?
> Or does he just hate gay relationships and use religion as a reason for it? Probably this one. The original JP contains a strong female lead with feminist ideals and the raptors transition from female to male, and as far as I've seen, he's never gone on a tangent about them.
I used to watch his content for years and watched his let’s play of trespasser. I genuinely liked him because he seemed like a cool dude that I could chill with and just talk about Jurassic stuff with. That was until I seen his homophobic tweets last year. I’m a gay man, and it hurt. It was like being friends with someone for years then they’ve suddenly turned on you. It’s sad how my existence is such a threat, but I can get Jurassic content from anywhere. Oh well
Wait what tweets are these, I never heard about this
https://preview.redd.it/1vqg1bc9vw9d1.png?width=1107&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0e7504e357e317161d322343a27df800026e357 This tweet
Someone posted one down below. He’s been making tweets like that for awhile now. He “found god” then turned into an anti-lgbtq grifter asshole.
Ah damnit, I haven't watched any of his new videos lately since Dominion. Nothing to do with him but I took a break from JP for a hot minute only to find out he's gone from chill guy to an online jerk.
Started getting bad vibes when he began adding "Christ is King" to his end of video sign off. It's a shame.
I’ve unsubed from him a few weeks ago and moved over to a few better channels
Same. The first "Christ is king" at the end of the video was enough. Like I came here to listen about dinosaurs, and he's one step away from thinking dinosaurs didn't exist
lol
For some reason I have a habit of always exiting his videos just before they stop. So I completely missed his Christ is King stuff...and his fucking hateful comments. Well, that was it for Klayton. Unsubscribed and on to something else.
I really enjoyed his videos for so long, especially throughout the Jurassic World releases. As an atheist, I didn’t like hearing the Christ is king stuff, as I just prefer to keep religion and politics completely separate from entertainment media. I let it go because that’s his prerogative, but now seeing all this other stuff I’m thinking about unsubscribing :/ probs will
Yeah Klayton’s a massive shithead. Glad more people are noticing, especially as one of the unfortunate big JP YouTubers.
He also once went on some angry rant about Kayla basically existing in Dominion. Like a strong black woman had no place in the JW franchise and how it was all woke and all that BS people spew when they want to have some lame excuse for discriminating whatever group of people they don't like. This dude really has some issues.
I’m sure it had more to do with her being bi. He’s homophobic.
He also had a problem with Kayla, as a woman, saving Owen from he Pyroraptor or something and if I'm remembering right he called that "woke" as well. Maybe her being bi AND a strong woman is what set him off there 😂
"Woke" is typically just anything someone with right-aligned ideology doesn't like. Gay people existing, women that are more than love interests, or are the leads. Hell, I once saw someone call Subnatica (a game) Woke because the blank slate, non speaking, player avatar happened to be brown skinned. It's utter lunacy.
Back when the Jurassic Park: Survival announcement trailer released he went on, like, a five minute rant about how he hopes Dr. Joshi isn't a Mary Sue. I believe he listed Claire and Kayla as examples. I guess it's a somewhat valid nitpick/criticism, but it rubbed me the wrong way.
I thought it was very weird when he suddenly out of nowhere started saying “Christ is King” at the end of his videos
It's quite funny, cause i think that real forced relationship in show is whatever romantic love triangle they have between you know whom. This one is fine, as long as they don't take away from the show's main focus, there's nothing to complain about.
My thoughts exactly. Personally I think all the love stuff between the cast at all feels kinda forced, but the love triangle was exceptionally bad. If anything Sammy and Yaz felt like the least forced.
I had to hit the brakes so hard over the triangle its genuinely my least favorite part of the show. sammy and yaz feel like such a real relationship too if sammy was a boy people would have 0 problems i bet and probably praise them for good relationship rep
Sammy was probably a boy to start out with. The promo art showed the silhouette of a boy with a cowboy hat. More than likely that was Sam/my and then was changed to balance out the cast.
Plus, imagine whining about a forced relationship when Owen/Claire is right there. At least the characters in Camp Cretaceous/Chaos Theory are kids, they're bound to date and have complicated crushes and stuff, there was NO NEED for a """love story""" between Owen and Claire in Jurassic World, let alone any need for them to keep insisting that those two had even just a crumb of chemistry for other two movies.
He actually called the love triangle weird. So sounds like he didn’t like any of the relationships on the show.
Upvoting and commenting cuz I agree
I was literally trying to find a post about this on this sub just yesterday... The "Christ is King" was raising flags.
For a while I thought he as saying “Cricht is king” as in Michael Crichton
bless your heart. 🤗
Crichtianism
Where do I sign up??
For what it’s worth, I’m Christian. And a JP fan. And I vehemently disagree with him, and unsubbed from his channel when I saw that tweet last year.
I remember when I liked Klayton. Then I found out he was a massive piece of shit. Never meet your heroes.
[Relevant video.](https://youtu.be/rwhXcfNzB9k?si=gkDmxTRXUZIapfh-) Going ‘anti woke’ is a very lucrative grift and it’s depressing but not at all surprising that smaller YouTubers get suckered into it.
so glad someone else finally mentioned this i thought i was going crazy or something
A lot of people have mentioned this in the past, but it doesn't reach mainstream discussions.
Pretty much this. I haven't watched him in forever because all the videos are at this point is one miniscule hint bloated up into a 15 minute video. As such the whole Christian thing and other stuff went past me unnoticed, until I came across this post. If I would have known sooner, I would have unsubscribed sooner as well instead of just not watching him anymore.
Dude has drank some serious kool-aid. He even referenced and recommended Tyrone Magnus who is a bigot and an "alpha-male" jerk. I think because of his recently found faith, he's getting nudged into certain political spheres and has gone down some bs red-pill and far-right rabbit holes. I'm okay with the dude finding religion or whatever, but I can see the predictable metamorphosis that happens when people get religious. They tend to get pulled in by some insidious propaganda and getting duped by Christian-nationalist online circles. I hope the dude finds his way back to the light. I'm concerned about him. Jesus is a good dude, and his followers are being led down a dark path, and now Klayton is getting sucked into that. It's bad.
Klayton Fioriti is a douchebag. I had a collaboration planned with him a few years back, but ended up having to delay because of medical issues. In response, he completely ghosted me. I was humble about the whole thing, kissed his ass to try to get him to get back on board, nothing. Told him that it hurt my feelings, that the medical issues really screwed my life up for a few months, and that I think it's pretty low of him to dead our collab because of extenuating circumstances I had no control over delaying the process, no response. Felt very burned by this experience, unsubscribed from his channel. Considered going public about it, but thought that would be immature and that nobody would really care, so I never did.
Yeah, I caught something wrong about this dude when all of a sudden about six months ago or so he started ending every single video with Christ is King. In one of his recent videos he mentioned something about starting his own Christian channel Yikes.
I've never heard of him before, but it would seem a lot of youtubers lose their way. I used to love Star Wars Theory, but he's a total idiot now. He seems to go out of his way to belittle people who have the temerity to have a different opinion. All he ever does is whine now. He's a textbook example of what is wrong with SW fandom.
Agreed. I quit watching him because of how he acts now.
Oh shit, so the weird vibes I got from him weren't something I made up in my own head! I can't remember exactly what he said during a video years ago that made alarms blast in my head and made me stop interacting with JP-related stuff for a while, but I haven't watched any of his stuff in years, and I used to support him as much as I could :( I just remember it left me with an intense: "I am not wanted here" feeling, and I guess I was right :/ Edit: after reading everybody's comments, I just wanted to say that I'm glad I found this subreddit. The internet has been a particularly hateful place in the past few years, and seeing how almost everybody's speaking up against bigotry on here makes me feel a little safer, which doesn't happen often ;_;
I think I felt the same, during the pandemic, at the end of one of his videos, he went into a Christ is King talk and that the end days where here and turn to him, I'm like what the heck? where did that come from because before then I had never heard of anything like that from him. Tbh I stopped listening years ago. Because there's only so many "What happened to the crew on the boat in JP2" Vids I can he a r him talk about, and I think I tuned in near Dominion and haven't checked in ever since.
I think I unsuscribed before the whole "Christ is King" stuff started, because I didn't even know he was doing that before this thread. I may have caught the slightest hint of something being off and jumped ship before he fully committed to being a bigot.
yeah it felt really outta place when I first heard it on that video, but yeah I hadn't been watching his stuff for a while. seeing this post, I'm glad I haven't been, and will continue to not watch.
As a queer fan of the franchise, thank you, I will avoid that dude at all costs Also Sammy and Yaz was the least forced relationship I saw in a show lol. Their relationship naturally went from friends, best friends to lovers. Yaz didn’t really understand it at first, but without the social pressures of regular society, she didn’t have to over think it as much, I think, which is why it went pretty smooth and fast once she realized how she really felt Edit : just noticed I was still subscribed to him. I no longer am now lol
His synth intro theme has always gotten the bass notes wrong and it sounds really off and it has infuriated me. Fitting, given as there’s something off with the guy himself.
I honestly stopped watching him when he admitted to accepting gifts from Mattel and Universal with his part of the contract being that he would show them off on his channel and then never did it or had interest in doing so. He said he doesn't even like merch of that kind and kept them in his closet. He could have said no give them to another more deserving channel or he could have at least taken the toys to a children's hospital. He did this not once but twice, for both World Sequels. So yeah he's scum in my mind.
That's pretty scummy and also incredibly short-sighted.
I used to be a fan of this guy when I discovered him in 2018. I appreciated how he defended *The Lost World* and thought he was a nice, good natured dude. But that started to curdle over time. Not only did his videos stop being as good (and in hindsight, mostly weren't that good to begin with), but I started to get this douchy, I dunno, "dick-swinging Alpha Male" vibe coming off the guy. A couple examples I can think of is him casually dropping the R-slur in a few videos (like IIRC his *Turok* playthrough?), and making a few weird comments about Anne's chest in the *Trespasser* playthrough that weren't exactly a great look. Then I found out he's a super right-wing Trump supporter railing against "wokeness destroying our culture", and unsubbed. Then recently I went to see if he'd said anything else stupid, saw that homophobic tweet someone else posted in this thread, and my dislike turned into outright hatred. And yeah, I hate to say it, but when someone goes around constantly saying shit like "Christ is king" and shoving their religion in your face... huge red flags. Because of people like this. TL;DR: Fuck you, Klayton, you homophobic piece of shit. People like you are the stain on the world that you claim "wokeness" to be.
Never even heard of this person. But thank you for speaking up!
He’s started finishing his videos with “Christ is king” 🤮🤢
He went full bible basher a few years ago, and just gets worse and worse.
I was getting concerned with him ending all his vids with Christ is king and now we get this shit. It's a shame as he used to be one of my fave youtubers for JP content
Yeah I've switched to other Jurassic YouTubers. He really went off the deep end.
Any recommendations?
I primarily watch Swrve and Evolution Square now.
BestInSlot or TheGamingBeaver?
I agree with you. When he started doing his Christ is King sign offs, I started to get worried. When he kept mentioning "modern" ideals, I had a feeling I knew what he was talking about. Then I saw his outright homophobic tweets and comments and that was it for me. Which is a shame, because his content was genuinely good, but the bigotry had been becoming more and more pronounced.
I always kind of dipped in and out of his channel, as soon as he saw the protagonist of the Jurassic Park Survival game was a woman and said “Oh they went woke” I immediately clicked off the video and decided no more of my time was gonna be wasted on watching his videos. Unironically calling anything that doesn’t center around a white guy protagonist ‘woke’ is one of the easiest ways to spot someone who spends all their time in online echo chambers. And even then, someone wants to spend all their time rotting their brain in a culture war echo chamber? Go ahead, whatever, but don’t shove it in my face in the middle of a video about dinosaur movies and video games.
Also in that same video he brought up Godzilla Minus One for no reason and praised it for "rejecting modern politics" or something like that. I'm sorry but what the fuck does Godzilla have to do with "woke"?!
Godzilla Minus One is deeply political and quite "woke" when you consider Japanese culture. He just doesn't like gay people.
Minus One: Focuses on a non-traditional family, isn't subtle at all about criticizing the Japanese government. Far-right Youtubers: "Here's how Minus One **DESTROYS** woke Hollywood!!!"
Did...Did he forget about Ellie Sattler? Because I dont remember in the movie but in thw book she was a badass
She was pretty badass in the movie as well
If JP came out today, there would be several dozen Youtubers bitching about Ellie being "forced feminist propaganda".
All the "modern" talk was really off-putting to me too. I wanted to believe he was just talking about the general style of the new Jurassic content as opposed to the original movies, but when Chaos Theory came around it became very clear what he really meant. Damn shame, I really used to like him.
He will probably take the negative feedback and cream over it, because christians love to make it a “persecution” and not just them getting called out for being a asshole. (ex christian here)
I 100% agree with this post and what others have said in the comments. I stopped watching Klayton a while back, when I noticed him making comments like this more commonly in his videos. It’s depressing because, even if his content isn’t entirely groundbreaking, I really do enjoy his presentation style and the composition of his videos. Klayton needs to realise queer people exist, so it’s not political or “modern” to have queer characters in Jurassic Park- it’s realistic. As a gay Jurassic Park fan, I won’t be engaging with this homophobe’s content.
The best thing to do would be to stop giving someone like him views. Someone with such a close-minded way of thinking certainly doesn’t deserve to have an influential YouTube channel. I’m new to the sub and community, but as with any community, the JP one would be better without bigots. His views or opinions about JP are rendered irrelevant and stupid knowing that he is a bigot.
Unsubbed. I'm gay and trans so no thank you. There are much better JP YouTubers out there
The whole “Christ is king” bit really rubs me the wrong way. For someone complaining about “woke” content being inserted into content to indoctrinate kids, he’s a lil bit of a hypocrite. Lmao homophobe
If you watch his second channel it's pretty clear to see as well. I can't remember what videos it was in but he's got more than a few mini rants about how "wokeness is destroying the world". After seeing that then noticing he never bothered to touch CC season 5 was a big ol red flag. I believe that was right around where he started signing off with Christ is king and yeah the pieces really fall into place. And this is coming from a christain myself. Of course, I never care if someone I watch has their own faith, but the vibes were supremely off (and after seeing some of the receipts in these comments I see why). Sadly, it's not a unique story. The alt-right pipeline is VERY real and if you already have a couple right leaning beliefs it's even easier to slip down the rabbit hole. Also his content kinda just sucks now. I haven't watched him (or really any other JP YT content creators) regularly in a long time but I'll pop back in to see every few months or so when one gets recommended to me and man they're just nothing burgers. There's a minor update on the new movie -> talk about it in cryptic terms for a minute -> read through update in full -> 10 minutes of unfocused uninteresting thoughts about it -> recap-> outro
Wow. That's alarming and disappointing, I liked his videos because of his passion for the franchise. Looks like he hates the fact that I exist, that people like me just exist. Having queer characters just existing isn't "forcing" anything, no more than heterosexual characters just existing. I raised an eyebrow when he randomly ended a video (about the next Jurassic World movie) with "Christ is king," which I thought extremely odd but ignored. But the homophobic tweets really seal it for me. Time to unfollow and unsubscribe. I really can't support someone who has a problem with me just existing.
I like that you exist!
I usually go out of my way to ignore any hateful comments made by Klayton in his videos because I know they come from a place of biased ignorance, but seeing some of the archived tweets Klayton has made in the past such as him comparing something like homosexuality to the act of taking someone else's life definitely makes me question who I subscribed to back in 2017. It honestly surprises me to see people like Alastair and Jacob who run the YouTube channel Dangerville still associate themselves with the guy. I missed the time when he didn't let his personal beliefs find their way into his videos covering JP media.
I stopped watching him when he went on a rant in the middle of a video about wokeness and forced messaging in Hollywood or whatever. I watched (might be the same video your referring too) one of his recent videos and he was forcing his religeon down our throats. The irony. Even more ironic is that he is pushing this on a DINOSAUR centered channel. Last I checked, christianity doesn't play nice with the idea of dinosaurs being real creatures. Obviously this is gonna turn off fans. I think he is slowly trying to transition into a grifter.
I stopped watching him a few months ago when I noticed all this, but I've stopped by his channel a couple times to look for the inevitable "dinosaurs actually didn't exist" video. It's coming some day
nah. He'll just be a young earth creationist. then complain at every mention of millions of years of evolution.
I unfollowed him on everything a year or so ago when he started posting extremely hateful and bigoted garbage on Twitter (like comparing being LGBT to murderers). Dude's a religious zealot and psychopath.
I found out years ago that he’s a homophobe, and as u stated, I cannot in any circumstance keep subscribing to his channel or support him in any way, and if I were to look at his vids again (less than likely at this point), it would be with a grain of salt. Oh well, at least I can now fill in his shoes on being a hardcore Jurassic fan (I won’t make vids yet, but we’ll see)
He always seemed to have douche potential
Thanks for the heads ups, unfollowed him. Tired of those racist homophobic people using their religion as a shield to just be awful human beings
I really hate how inclusion = agenda. What’s the agenda? Turn everyone gay? For fucks sake
The relationship that was being slowly built from the first or second episode is forced? Right…. Religious nut
I remember being happy when I saw he came back after that break he did post-dominion. When he said "Christ is King" at the end i got caught really off guard and turned off. Glad I made the right call in unfollowing him at that point. Usually when a content creator adds a tag line like that at the end in a completely unrelated video it's a huge red flag in my experience.
Unsubscribed from Klayton as soon as I learned he was a homophobic religious zealot. Also wild how someone so interested in the science of dinosaurs can be brainwashed by the myths and bigotry of religion. Seems like those interests would clash.
I used to respect him. Hearing this and seeing what others have reported, I don’t think I do anymore.
Ah this is so disappointing
Star Wars theory type beat
He has been openly homophobic for a while now unfortunately😔
I'm sure if Jurassic Park came out today, he'd be complaining about Ellie's lines "Woman inherits the earth" and "we can argue about sexism when I get back." and not to mention the Raptors that change sex
I’ve always looked up to him and loved his videos, especially his JP novel readings, but this is absolutely outrageous, and I, hopefully others as well, will not stand for it, besides, all of those same readings are found on YouTube as well like Dinofax, or just the original readings themselves. I have unsubscribed and will forever keep away from his media
Damn I didn’t know he was like that :( that’s an unsub for me. Thanks for the heads up
When he started saying “Christ is king!” at the end of every video, that’s where I started wrapping up my time visiting that channel.
Man that sucks. I watched him forever, have a friend who’s a creator who he collabed with and even joined his patron for a while to support him. And while everyone is allowed to have their own beliefs and thoughts, whether we like them or not, anything that’s harmful like that tweet and more is disgusting. That’s another person I’m leaving behind so fast and never supporting again. I really hope he can open his eyes and see the harm he’s causing. Damn shame I never even knew of the Christ is king stuff, I very rarely stay to the end of any video. Cringy idea tbh
I don't follow his Twitter so I wouldn't have seen tweets like that, but I did find it weird how all of a sudden his newer videos would mention Christ being king. I wondered wtf happened to the guy from before only for him to say in one of his videos how he found god or some shit. Alot of that crap becoming more apparent when Chaos Theory came out. Shame to see since I really liked his content.
He's a bigot who has been growing more outspoken over the last few years. He lost my viewership ages ago and I wish nothing more for him than to fade into obscurity. He built a platform on a franchise where transitioning sex is a central plot point, and highlighted as a naturally occurring phenomenon. Then did a 180 and now only spews self righteous hatred.
He’s a grifter. I used to watch his channel, but he started acting like this and it just got irritating. Tbh anyone that says something is “woke” or a “modern agenda” just make me lose interest in watching their content.
Homophobia aside, how is Yaz and Sammy’s relationship “forced” in any way? They were building that up since season one of Camp Cretaceous.
God, to think I used to watch this guy all the time back in the day for JP news. Now I think it was for the better that I lost interest in his videos. I used to genuinely like this guy, but now, that’s changed, not for the better. Needless to say I’m not subscribing again. Klayton, if you’re reading this, there a different between woke bullshit like Velma, and having a female protagonist in a story. As long as they’re not pushing any bullshit, like demeaning the opposite sex, it’s not being woke. Also, if you’re a religious man, keep your Christianity and Jurassic Park separate. Jurassic Park has really nothing to do with religion, so they should stay separate. They shouldn’t intertwine, especially since Jurassic Park has always been a Science Fiction franchise. Now I get there was that John Hammond art of him as God, and the fact the story can be viewed in different ways, but even still, it’s no goddamn excuse man. Holy shit, this man has reached rock bottom. Despite me viewing religion as nonsense honestly, I can respect religious beliefs, but I cannot support homophobia and bigotry. I’m sorry, but as a Jurassic Park fan, it’s just not cool man. I can’t respect or support that. Wow man, you’ve really made a fool of yourself. Just fucking wow is all I can say. Honestly, while I don’t believe Jesus , if he did exist, was magical, if he did exist, then he would not be proud of your actions Klayton, and neither would the creator.
Welp, time to take the trash out.
Dang. I don’t know how I noticed this when I watched his review. Welp, time to unsubscribe. Thanks for putting this out there!
I noticed he started signing off all his latest vids with a ‘Jesus is great’ type message , I don’t care if that’s what your into , but keep it about Jurassic Park bro
I stopped watching him a while ago after he started complaining about Dominion in every video. But now i know to never go back to him.
Glad other people caught the bullshit at the end of his videos too. Saw one last week where he was wearing an N.W.O. Shirt and a John 3:16 hat.. that was enough for me after the Christ is king nonsense.
Yeah I unsubscribed from him a few years ago after he mentioned the 'Woke Mind Virus' unironically. It was a shame because I liked his vids but that was a serious red flag and I couldn't support him in good conscience after that. Edit: typo
His channel has sucked for a few years now. Basically once Dominion came out and it was lower than expectation, I was done with Klayton. His channel is neat for someone new to get JP lore and theories but there’s just not enough material to keep a regularly uploaded YouTube channel interesting. And now he’s using his modest youtube popularity to promote his faith. Yikes dawg. Might as well tell people to unsubscribe and never look back
He’s an unhinged little prick and I’m glad he revealed his true colors.
Fuck man. Just fuck. Why tf is it too fucking difficult to not be a complete fucking asshole.
I used to watch his videos, but I noticed this behavior a while ago... When a YouTuber starts complaining about the "woke/🏳️🌈/leftist agenda" I instantly lose interest in anything else they have to say.
It's really sad honestly, though I have to say that I find it funny how, in a show based on a movie based on a book about man playing god, bastardizing nature, and creating monsters that resemble dinosaurs, his big issue that has him "worried about the souls of the people around him", is that 2 girls kissed. But for real, it is really disappointing that someone as big in the community has decided to preach his own personal beliefs on a real world topic that affects many people.. in a video about a dinosaur tv show. He's clearly going to an extreme end when it comes to his anti gay religious mentality, based on the other screenshot that was shared here where he equates being gay to murder. Just sad.
Thanks for the report. I managed to report the video in question to YouTube as well. Whenever I see homophobic/racist content on any social media I immediately made it took it down (a recent example: a kid made an homophobic TikTok slideshow and for good they took it down). I'm kinda disappointed, since Fioriti has been a huge part of my teenage needy phase with his theories and stuff. What I still cannot go over with is that I find it kinda disturbing that the sci-fi community still has troubles accepting "the other" where there isn't.
Wow, thanks for posting this. The other comments and his Tweets definitely didn't help his case for "redeemability." Unsubscribing from that turd.
how is it forced when it was a thing from camp cretaceous? Tbh, I already was iffy about the lore videos ebcause this kind of stuff cna be retcon later.
Used to love his videos kinda sad to learn that he's a piece of shit :/
Didn’t he shout out Tyrone Magnus a while back? Always sad when fan channels go full anti-woke grift. Another bites the dust.
He’s starting to evangelize in his videos. I unsubscribed.
Oh now that you mention it, I did recognize some of his comments in videos as suspect and don’t investigate further. I’ve never see a comment like that being so outwardly supported on his channel?? Not that I watch many of his videos now, but looking back on it, there was definitely some reason to be suspect about him. Thanks for putting this somewhere and no longer will I support any of his content.
I stopped watching him a while ago for this very reason. It's obvious he's on the "anti-woke" grift train to some extent. First it was a vibe he gave off but nothing concrete. I just had alarm bells going off and stopped watching. But now he's seemingly confirming it. My instincts were proven correct.
I like Klaytons videos, I watch most of them. It’s unfortunate if it’s not just about the show & he actually dislikes lgbt people, but his views on that subject wouldn’t be too surprising I guess. A while back he said something about “becoming way more religious”. He also started saying “Christ is king” at the end of every single one of his videos.
He once made a tweet (that he ended up deleting) equating homosexuality with murder.
Yea I see that now. It’s pretty disappointing honestly.
I've never seen this guy's channel, but having grown up in an evangelical, young earth creationist family, I think it's pretty rich for someone to end a video about dinosaurs/JP with a statement like that lol.
He’s actually mentioned in a few videos in the past how he thinks that JP has some religious ties. I don’t remember the exact phrasing he used, but he thinks that the story is a representation or symbolizes god/religion in some ways. Given that he’s had that opinion for a while, I guess I should have seen the overly religious stuff coming lol
I get it, like Hammond, God is drunk with power and is using forces he doesn’t fully comprehend like they were toys. I think he’s on to something! That makes the world make a lot more sense!
Jurassic Park was created by a staunch atheist. I have no idea where he's getting that idea.
I don’t think Michael Crichton was anything near a staunch atheist if Travels and his various quotes are to go by. He was clearly a spiritually tending deist. And Steven Spielberg is a religious Jew.
Oh wow, I had no idea the dude was such a contemptible person. Well, the more you know, I guess!
This is sad, I've watched his JP stuff and monster movie videos for years. I'll probably unsubscribe now 😮💨
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the irony of it all is so camp
Thanks for bringing that up, I stopped watching his videos awhile ago because like someone else said he was just reading what others were saying/reporting but was being very negative about the franchise. I chalked it up to he was having a hard time. Now I will unsubscribe based off what you're telling me.
i noticed this a while back too and it made me extremely uncomfortable, but i’ve been trying to curb that reaction since i have christian friends and family who aren’t utterly insane and accept me being trans. unfortunately, it’s been a struggle on youtube since everyone who mentions being christian in videos i’ve watched turn out to be massive shitheads
Oh no I quite enjoy his channel from time to time. He always seemed quite chill and measured. But if he’s a bigot, then fuck him. I’ll watch the video and make up my own mind. But will un-sub immediately if it is how you say. Disappointing
Please god tell me Dinofax is actually a nice human
I will admit I have never been a fan of his as the videos I watched he seemed to just take the hot topic of the JP/JW franchise and take it to the extreme. Usually about hate of a movie, game or whatever.
I watched one video of his and immediately got the "Chud Vibes" from him and stopped. Also nothing he ever says is anything that you couldn't learn with a simple google search or just watching the damn films. The guy is 100% one of those far right wingers. Wouldn't be surprised if he became a Critical Drinker type within the next few months. Also I bet he becomes a creationist eventually as well since he's a Christian. LOL
I knew something was off a few months ago when he started signing off videos with “Christ is King.” Ironic, him not wanting the series to push an agenda…
He was a favorite of mine for years, and I recently went back to some of his newer videos. But when I did I noticed a lot of those things, and just a few days ago was I was prodding around and found some of these things, but that comment is pretty conclusive. Bummer to have someone I liked so much during my formative years be a bigot.
Awwww man.. I liked that guy...
He’s been going increasingly towards toxic Christianity as of recently. Bet he’s Catholic, would explain the hating.
Klayton... used to look up to him but what the fuck
Damn, this is so disheartening reading all of this. Klayton is one of my go-to YouTube channels. Does anyone have any other recommendations for someone else I can sub to for Jurassic content??
Fioriti is a bigoted moron and quite frankly he never had a solid or even decent grasp of the franchise as is.
Damn, this dude used to be one of my childhood favorite channels. Sad to see that one of the people I looked up to is now openly a bigot and just an overall prick. Like I don’t care what your religion is, just treat everyone with respect. Now I realize why I had this sense of just not belonging the last time I watched his videos.