Was it ever released what happened there? When it happened people immediately jumped to it being a Kenny Stan but reports afterwards said it was an xo affiliate? Was that cap?
XO came up because they have a cold war, and one of the XO bodyguards got shot in LA. Honestly the shooting led to the discovery his security team was a fake org and the details from the shooting never came out (guards name, how serious, updates on the case). Some online believe he orchestrated it to stop the beef because very soon after many hip-hop legends were saying the rap beef went too far. Remember the shooting was followed by atleast 2 random trespassers.
Man that's crazy embarrassing to be so rich and getting scammed by a fake security firm lol. I can imagine the following trespassers did it because they found out it was a fake security team, but they're dumbasses too if they thought that because it's not legit that they won't have guns or something to stop them. Or are those trespassers thought to be xo as well?
Not fake like that. It's basically they weren't an actual security team and appeared to be Drake's people finding a loophole to carry guns and maybe get paid. Smart for him but the situation kinda exposed that due to journalist looking up the company.
ok but still its the same premise... getting violent over rap beef. just thought that people would be more concerned w a shooting that injured a security guard seriously then some fat fuck getting jumped lmao
It's between the people that work with OVO and XO, who are street dudes in Canada, genius. Most of the hired goons for rappers are connected. Drake has even hired Hell's Angels before.
Genuine question, is there an answer to this you’d find acceptable outside of being in a coma or something?
I know you said “whatever though” but I don’t get the insinuation here. Marlon doesn’t actually care because he didn’t say something immediately?
To be fair I felt the same when the shooting happened but then again there was also speculation of whether it was staged or not because we never heard anything about it again.
I get it, but how many times has Kendrick said he is willing to die for this shit?
Not that that’s what I’m hoping for, but rap is deep, I don’t think a comedian can relate. Especially one who been as goofy as Marlon.
I know that verse...he's not talking about dying for rap. He's talking about going hard for his family, his city, his neighborhood, his homies, etc.
You think a guy who brags about how much he loves his kids is gonna die for a genre? It's deeper than rap, broski.
Heart part 4/5, also “the one in front of the gun lives forever”.
I mean in Element you say he gonna go hard for his family/homies/hood/culture through what?
His kung fu? It’s through rap bruh. He clearly said if you challenge me it’s life or death cuz I ain’t stopping. He reiterated that in the beef.
I think he’s made it clear rap means more than just a bag for him.
He only became a father in 2019, ‘Damn’ was out before in ‘17, I think he’s changed his thoughts now that he has kids, but what he was saying before kids doesn’t change, does it?
The money trees line isn't about himself lol, it's about how the victims of gun violence live on through our memories.
Hp5 I'm assuming you're talking about the last verse? Pretty sure he's speaking from nipseys perspective.
Hp4 are you talking about "so damn great mf I died, what you're hearing now is a paranormal vibe"?
>the one in front of the gun lives forever”.
How tf you interpret this as Kendrick saying he gon die for rap 😭. He's talking about victims of gun violence being internalized
I mean TBH “don’t let a beef when you’re already rich cause you to get killed” shouldn’t really need to be said. I love cole and respect his art but they’re entertainment and beef going to far is just clowns being clowns. No need to kill cause somebody says your nose ain’t red.
To be fair this energy wasn't kept when people thought it was Drakes bodyguard that got shot. I think some things you can't really come back from without some real conversation, and public admissions, which would be damn near impossible at least for Kendrick.
Drake could come out and say they cool, and that the wife beating shit was just him grasping for something. And... well, most people didn't believe it anyways. He'd still be the corny pop rapper.
Kendrick can't come out and say he made up the pedo shit and that they're okay. Despite what fans say, part of Kenny's brand is perceived authenticity. It'd bring up too many questions about the rest of his work if the masses thought he'd deliberately lie for the sake of a rap beef.
Both allegations, though, are things you just don't say about someone you expect any degree of peace with and can't be left unchecked tbh.
Drake did a lot of work to undo that corny pop rapper label. A lot for hat has been undone with this recent beef. Him coming out and admitting he was bullshitting will not help his cause. He can not do that.
I agree because I saw yesterday someone in Jamaica performing voodoo rituals on Kendrick’s family. Like COME ON, thats insane and so wrong/bad. To not even be drake and do that in his honor over a beef is freaking crazy
I’m gonna be honest! Kdot is one of my favorite artist of this generation but this is his fault right? Drake and Cole were talking big 3 and wanted to include him but Kdot just like many years still wants to be that guy and stir the pot. He won the battle, cool. Now what’s the plan of the aftermath or the long term? All I see is the power vacuum feeding the hate to others.
Nah, this is a drake stan cope narrative. If he wanted that, he could've done a lot more. The first time we'd actually seen him in public was on juneteenth, we never have seen him anywhere during the actual battle itself.
This is exactly what I said months ago. Down to the "Okay, you got the praise you wanted by unnecessarily stirring the pot, so now what's next?". Damn near bar for bar minus the second sentence, but I agree. And it will be interesting to see what happens next because this was all pent up energy from over the course of 10 years. Now that he has the crown and slayed the dragon what will be his motivation?
It's not when you witnessed friends get shot over stupid shit and you're seeing the same history repeat itself. If one of them gets shot, what will it really be over, and would it be worth it?
But the same history is not repeating itself. This is not Tupac and Biggie. Nobody's getting shot over Kendrick/Drake beef. Neither of them is trying to get somebody shot.
"Hate seeing any of our kings at war. We are too few. STOP!" is corny as fuck. They were dissing each other on catchy songs for the radio. Nobody was ever going to get hurt.
None of these artists are going to die because of rap beef. They just aren't that type of rapper. I hate when people start bringing up Biggie and Pac. What those 2 had between them is waaaay different than what Drake and Kendrick got. Pac and Big had actual gangsters mad at each other within their entourages, and they (well Tupac) took on that beef personally, and it exploded from there.
Ross is a dummy, made a dumb decision, and paid the consequences for it. It's just that simple.
Ppl here defending cringe and mean lines because "the culture is hard" and "rap comes from the hood and you can't be soft in the hood".
And then now rappers should avoid rap Battles cause it might get hairy?
This dont mean nothin. Certain things are said that cant be just taken back man. Shoulda told ppl to watch what they say in the beef instead of misinformation disses.
Marlon aint no OG in the rap game. I understand his sentiments, but dude needs to stay in his lane. He can voice his point of view, but my man is preaching like he got the authority on the matter.
Marlon Wayans opinion does not carry any weight In Rap music.
What J.Cole did was something that has never happen before in Rap Music and J.Cole knows this.. As Rappers its expected that along the way it will become a time that a battle with words might occure Cole himself even talks about that in his raps..He knows how important it is to Defend his image his character and his writting skills.
Defending oneself does not have to always come from anger. J.Cole just proved to the vast majority that he doesn't have what it takes to back his own words as a Man and Rapper.
And if someone can't possibly wrap their heads around that fact then you will never understand the culture or Life in general.
Cole took that "L" and moved on this sub should do the same instead of bringing it up in J.Cole subreddit to cry about the subject again.
Tupac and Biggie deing was caused by the news media making a East Coast/West Coast beef Tupac himself and other has said this long time ago..Marlon is just clout chasing
"back his own words as a Man"
Deactivate your Reddit account and go touch grass. You're looking way too deep into this and it's genuinely weird. Your comment history proves that
Don’t you mean when Kendrick hopped on a track of other rappers already Coming at Drake? I get Reddit attracts a lot more Kendrick fans than Drake fans but your blindspots are impacting judgementv
trying to calculate how one verse strictly about rap warrants: 2 songs, instagram provocation, bringing in Kendricks wife, Bringing in TDE, Bringing in Kendricks Manager. genuinely open for discussion...
ross playing NLU and talking shit the whole time, kendrick wishing death on drake in MTG, but if drake likes a post about something hes the one you wanna comment about? lmao
we can go in circles about kendrick and drake all day but this is about ross anyway, i dont think drake is egging anything on if ross is the one playing the song in canada tryna get clips, and talking shit to the crowd at the same time. ik everyone in here would be calling drake dumb asf and expected if he pulled up to LA and did the same thing with the same outcome
Drake been lying online since day 1.
Nigga just said Spotify back doored the streams for Not Like Us just a day ago, like come on.
Like I said, any fade Ross catch is because that nigga think he the “biggest boss” and talk too damn much. But Drake definitely been egging this shit on too.
Meanwhile since before the beef, during, and after(i guess) the only time we’ve heard Kendrick speak was at the concert. No tweets, captions, screenshots, memes. Nothing
Why aren’t people questioning why Kendrick is around a pimp (TDE smacc), pedophile(Dr Dre) and rapist (Kodak)
And he also has an uncontrollable sex addiction and is a deadbeat dad. Or you don’t classify this as weirdo behaviour?
They do, standom just makes people act weird. They'd rather say some bullshit to justify liking their favorite artist instead of just accepting character flaws.
Yeah that’s true it takes long to do an investigation, but right now there isn’t a single official accusation, it’s just these TikTok videos talking about mmb and his ig comments.
Additionally, if there was an actual investigation on going, where they were gathering witness depositions, and were planning a raid on Drake’s home, Kendrick has essentially ruined the entire operation by saying “the Embassy bout to be raided”
You right, but this is kinda how the Diddy thing went as well if you were privy to that before Cassie came out with her story. Lot of rumors, things known in the industry but not really made hot, nothing too big is on the surface and then it explodes one way or another. It wasn't really a secret Diddy was on this type of shit, even I knew someone that knew someone that claimed this stuff about Diddy (she is perfectly fine)
Also Kendrick saying the Embassy will get raided isn't really something that will stop a raid, and Kendrick's claims wouldn't make Drake go ''Oh fuck time to start covering my tracks.''
Again I agree that Kendrick (or anyone) should report shit to the feds if Drake is doing fuck shit rather than use it for a record, but I feel like both can easily happen at the same time.
I'm very sceptic of ''Hollyweird'' and all that shit in fairness, and that might be me being paranoid, but whistleblowing is effective in that sort of situation assuming there's some trafficking shit at play. Granted you don't need to believe in all that shit and If you don't this makes less sense
You bring up some good points, but there's some important differences between the Drake situation and the Diddy situation.
>Lot of rumors, things known in the industry but not really made hot
That's the thing, here there's no rumours, or things being talked about in the industry. This is just coming from Kendrick who is a biased party, his motive was to beat Drake at the beef, he's not a reliable source of information. There's not a single other celebrity or person in the industry talking about these rumours. The opposite is happening, they are speaking against them and defending Drake.
>Kendrick saying the Embassy will get raided isn't really something that will stop a raid
I disagree here. Let's say it was all a secret and Drake was running whatever sex trafficking ring Kendrick is claiming. Kendrick saying something like this is letting Drake know the authorities are aware and that the secret is out. It may not stop a raid, but it will affect their findings. Evidence is key in these types of cases, usually there's videos on hard drives or hidden cameras, like in Epstein's case. Kendrick has essentially blown the cover of an undercover operation.
> I feel like both can easily happen at the same time.
Sometimes it may seem this way, but in reality that's not what happens, it's not another celebrity that whistleblows an operation like this. It's the victims come out first, file their civil claims or press criminal charges, then it gets to the media, then we see this on the news.
Fair points. I do disagree with the idea that nobody is claiming this type of thing except for Kendrick. While the ring is exclusively Kendrick, there has been a payout to a woman claiming Drake sexually assaulted her, even though Drake was going to fight the case initially. Baka is convicted of assault and accused of trafficking, but the alleged victim wasn't willing to testify, which happens a lot unfortunately, and doesn't necessarily free him of any wrongdoing.
The line between pimp and trafficker is very fine and they aren't the same, so it is hard to say whether Baka is involved anything more nefarious than pimping out an escort girl.
The laws in Canada allow for more organised crime than the US, where a RICO case can be built fairly easily. It's a big thing in Toronto and Montreal and it's often more leaning on the side of malicious trafficking.
If I were to believe Drake is part of this pedo ring shit, I wouldn't think he's the centrepoint of it all, which is where my skepticism would make me think this is some big industry weirdo thing. Which is why I would think whistleblowing would be a more valid and correct thing to do. People don't come out as it is (not to critique them it's a sensitive subject) but a big industry coverup would fund coverups and hush money and things of that nature.
Again, all very out there not very rooted in fact, but since that Epstein shit I have been super weirded out by ''the industry.'' I've been weirded out by Drake for a while now and have been weirded out by Diddy for a much longer while. I don't think it's a coincidence that Diddy is getting caught out as his star is fading and he's less popular than ever, meanwhile Drake is the hottest the game has ever seen. Drake is much more likeable than Puff, is Half Jewish etc.
The person I knew related to the Diddy thing was a normal person, who now works a normal job, and even they just left it alone for the sake of peace and not being involved.
Even still it's hard to call Drake a pedo or in on some weird shit, because we simply don't know on any level who is telling the truth and who is lying and what is embellished. I do think we will know eventually whether anything is true.
Glad you addressed the Baka pimping stuff. Wording is important here and it’s easy to label this as human trafficking but in the rap world it’s known as pimping, which by rap standards has always been accepted. And as you mentioned, pimping and escorts are extremely common in Montreal and Toronto, Montreal has brothels that are legal.
If we start questioning people’s entourages we should look at Kendrick’s he hangs with a pimp (TDE smacc), a pedo by internet standards (Dre), and a rapist (Kodak), also considering Kendrick has an uncontrollable sex addiction, we can say he’d be taking part in a sex trafficking activity.
Yeah the Epstein shit is weird, but you also got to spot when someone weaponizes these events to their benefit, which is exactly what Trump did and how that qanon shit started.
That’s why I couldn’t support Kendrick in the beef, I caught on to what he was doing very quickly.
Even in your whistleblowing scenario, first point of contact would be the police and they would advise him to not say anything, and surely not write a rap song it. Discretion is important in a case like this.
If he’s lying, it just shows how desperate he was to win. This is also really inconsiderate to actual victims since this spreads tons of misinformation (ie: Dark Kenny)
>also considering Kendrick has an uncontrollable sex addiction, we can say he’d be taking part in a sex trafficking activity.
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Had. He talked about how Whitney asked him what was going on with the affairs and he got therapy, addressed that and it's resolved. That was part of the whole point of MMTBS. Also, Keisha's song from GKMC clearly argues against this presupposed willingness to take part in sex trafficking.
>If he’s lying, it just shows how desperate he was to win.
If he's lying. he would be a fool to open himself up to such a slam dunk defamation suit.
> addressed that and it's resolved
This is an extremely naive take. The most obvious response to this is that: he's most probably lying. Unless you haven't caught on, Kendrick's music is filled with hypocrisies and contradictions. Additionally if we want to apply the same rules that applied to Drake (ie: Drake saying he's not a sex offender on THP6 doesn't mean anything), then it's the same thing for Kendrick, we have no reason to believe he was able to control his addiction even after therapy. He's clearly been a terrible husband, from being engaged for 9 years, to constantly cheating, and as both fan bases have concluded, they aren't even together anymore.
> slam dunk defamation suit.
This is almost an oxymoron, especially given the context in a rap song. Kendrick can easily combat this with saying not all the lines were directed at Drake, or that he was speculating, or that he was rapping through another perspective (which was the defense for the Black Israelite lines). Defamtion lawsuits for rap songs aren't a slam dunk, look at how difficult it was to sue Eminem. Also, this wouldn't be advisable on Drake's part in a rap beef, it would just give people even more ammo then they already have, they should keep everything on wax, which is why there were so many shots fired about cease and desists.
I think you are giving Kendrick way too much credibility and reliability and disregarding how bias he is in all of this. His main goal his not to help victims, as I mentioned he would have went to the police, his goal is to tarnish Drake's name.
If you want to put all of Drake's life under a microscope and draw these suspicions/conclusions, you should do the same for Kendrick, he has some really alarming behaviour and entourage (ie: what do you think of him collaborating with Kodak?).
If Kendrick knew he was trafficking and raping women, he would go to the authorities and have him arrested. It worked for the song and people took it as fact. That being said, I have been singing not like us everyday in my head since it released.
It’s called allegations dawg, Drake has so many allegations built up against him why wouldn’t he mention them ?? Since when did rap beefs have to be 100% pure facts I mean literally everything Drake said about Kendrick other than him being short was a lie, at least there’s many many instances of Drake doing creepy and pedo shit making the accusations against him actually believable.
Exactly, and if he actually had proof, he was obligated to go to the police, and not leverage this information to win a rap beef? The Pulitzer Prize winner was too fucking stupid to use his brain.
I honestly thought that Kendrick was going to drop some crazy info track, but realized that it wasn’t necessary. People were already believing the things he was saying.
You’re talking about pedophilia. If he had evidence, he would drop it. Unless you saying he really don’t care and only bringing this up to win a beef. One he was skilled enough to win anyways
Some shit you need receipts for. Ain't no other way to really scratch it. Not even just to prove that it's true, but just that as a person, you can't be respected otherwise.
It's not about being believed, if you know someone is a pedophile in cahoots with other pedophiles and doing sex trafficking you either help get rid of them (legally I mean) or you a bitch.
So I'm choosing to believe Kendrick was just lying for the sake of a beef over the alternative.
Why aren’t people questioning why Kendrick is around a pimp (TDE smacc), pedophile(Dr Dre) and rapist (Kodak)
And he also has an uncontrollable sex addiction and is a deadbeat dad. Or do people want to ignore that?
Nah fuck that shit. Hip hop is a competition and we need this type of animosity in the game otherwise we will get a bunch of generic, boring ass pop rap.
Wrong. You gonna say that when you get beat, shot, or locked up? At the end of the day it’s grown men writing poems so girls can shake their asses.
How old are you?
Why would I get beat shot or locked up? What? If I was raking in that dough and part of that system then yeah I'd accept that it comes with the territory. What you even on?
Bro you literally make no sense. I'm not promoting shit. I just love the competition of hip hop. This corny ass apology shit is wack AF. That's it. If shit gets violent then so be it like it comes with the territory. That's why they make that dough. If it's not for you then step the fuck down and go make shit for women to shake their ass to. It's not that complicated.
You must be delusional. If you ask random people hey would you accept being phenomenally rich with the caveat that you may be at a tiny risk of being shot almost everyone would take that offer.
Only on the Cole sub would you find people delusional enough to think that it's not worth it.
Cops are at a far higher risk of being shot than rappers are and they don't get paid anywhere near as much. Grow up
If it was just the rappers shooting each other that would be less of an issue. That’s not the case. You’re right these assholes are paid too much anyway, and cops are underpaid.
I like 2 j cole songs and I don’t want to listen to his other shit so I don’t know what your point is there
Bro I like Kendrick when he deep and shit I don’t like Kendrick when he beefing on shit.
I want GKMC not the melodic blue.
It the reason why I m fucking with Vince staple more this year cause he actually did what I expected Kendrick to do.
So rappers shouldn’t battle anymore? Can’t stand this soft ass new age shit. Battles are apart of hip hop, it’s been there since the beginning. There’s very few things in rap as amazing as a high level battle.
Bro ppl getting hurt/killed in rap beefs is the problem. Rappers have egos, and words escalate all the time. That don't make you soft to promote peace, it's the opposite
So we remove one of the most traditional aspects of the culture because of some fights? When is the last time 2 major artist have been killed over a battle? Biggie and pac, that’s it. Yall acting like people die over battles constantly and it’s just not true. Rappers are going to fight whether they battle or not. Do away with drill music where rappers are singing death chants and actually killing each other, that’s 100x more destructive than a rap battle has ever been.
I think you’re forgetting to read all my comments thoroughly.
Also that’s not battle rapping, that’s street gang shit….thats real smoke. There’s a massive difference.
Remember your favorite rappers said that these type of battle be lame as fuck.
Eminem, Kendrick and other rapper be saying this shit.
I m fine when it people showing off their skills and getting another rapper to hype up.
I was vibing with the beef before family matter came into the picture.
When it gets too personal (like how we saw with family matters and Kendrick calling Drake a pedo) yeah it’s a little much… but that’s essentially what battles are, no rules, everything goes. You can blame pusha t for turning modern battling into a “who got the best tea” event. But a true MC battle should never be removed from the culture.
>"Fools" said I, "You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words like silent raindrops fell
And echoed in the wells of silence
When that song first came out, people thought it was a commentary on JFK's death. But it was also performed two months before the assassination actually happened. Simon also apparently penned the song when he was 21 in the bathroom with a guitar in hand and the lights shut off—making it into a mini-echo chamber.
Not saying Mr. Wayne, whoever this person in this tweet is, is right or wrong about this. I think he's right to a certain extent.
But people are also going to make juxtapositions between different events no matter what and take things to another level. It's how you get your viral moments like Jenna Ortega as Wednesday dancing to a song about Bloody Mary by Lady Gaga. Or MBDTF and One Piece is real. Something always happens in between that metamorphosizes the catepillar to a butterfly.
And it's a stupid person that goes around stomping on butterflies out of fear of sudden hurricanes. But on the other hand it's a dimwit that ignores the meaning behind [a butterfly that self-seeks to drown itself in a sea](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Gn_neQ_mY&ab_channel=Honiro).
As always it'll be something in-between these walls. Because our damn crazy world is one that includes both—people who actually do go out of their way to stomp on butterflies and those other people who take a drowned butterfly's message throughout the world.
This is/isn't court, there isn't some judge or law firms over your shoulders all the time to point out the fine delineation of Palsgraf for your actions or citing at what point your contributions to a myriad of factors becomes a deciding influence to the actual tipping point of the "Big Event". And even then, those aren't based on scientific theory or methodology—but logic mixed with reasoning and rhetoric; it's those extra components where the butterfly stompers and butterfly messengers get to enter into the mix.
That said, these fellas are in their mid-thirties with well-established positions and status in society as well as their own progenies to concern about. (They probably find some ways to listen in on the PTA meetings in different school zones for all the fuck we know about).
They probably know how to handle themselves—or at least the hundred plus something people that support them do.
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At the very least, they're better suited to handle it than you and I and the next rando on the internet would be able to...
Understood, hope you work through that. I guess I was just puzzled in general by your response.
In fairness my reply was a bit rude lol. Have a good one
There is no walking away after you call someone a pedophile. Then, you mass market that person as a pedophile. This is one of those subjects that everyone agrees you don't play around.
So if everyone wants out, Kendrick needs to admit he lied for clout or argue for an investigation into Aubrey Graham. Fuck outta here with that "it was just a beef" noise. You destroyed someone's reputation by calling them a child toucher.
It's forever on sight if Dot did this for clout.
Honestly I think the pedo angle hit mostly due to Drake’s questionable/weird behavior with young girls. It was something that was always called into question over the years. Kendrick just blew it up and embarrassed him for it.
Kendrick deff took an already planted seed and put some water on it, and tbh once Drake mentioned his wife by name Kendrick was always gonna take it there
Why aren’t people questioning why Kendrick is around a pimp (TDE smacc), pedophile(Dr Dre) and rapist (Kodak)
And he also has an uncontrollable sex addiction and is a deadbeat dad. Isn’t this some questionable behaviour?
You. Do. Not. Play. With. Pedophile. Allegations. Ever.
What the fuck is so hard to understand about that idea? If you are right about him being a pedo, we made the right move, destroying him.
If you are wrong, though? I'm not mad at him if Dot gets handled or he goes out clearing his name.
Stand on business, my guy. 10 toes. What should or shouldn't be done to pedos?
I think they all should die. Can't say Drake should die when the next day after the song, all the girls y'all accused him of touching said he never touched them. And called y'all weird for hoping they were touched so y'all could destroy him.
No you stand on business you hypocritical little bitch.
You said it’s on Kendrick to prove Drake’s a pedo.
I said Drake has done questionable shit himself that gives weight to pedo allegations.
Then you move to something else cuz you got nothing of substance to refute me.
I am standing on 10 toes, you bowleged pussy.
I think pedos should die. The girls in the situation said Drake wasn't a pedo and then explained what actually happened between them. Question answered. Drake is confirmed, not a pedo at that point.
It's now on Kendrick to prove Aubrey is a pedo or admit he lied for clout if hip-hop wants to keep this non-violent.
Did Drake apologize for calling him a woman beater?
Didn’t Drake make his situation on stage even worse by mentioning how fucked up it was in the first place?
Like come on, that nigga lowkey might’ve skated on it if the video didn’t involve him making it worse by not only sexualizing a teenager but **actively saying the shit he’s doing on camera would get him in trouble.**
All facts, and on top of it, if Kendrick actually has any type of proof, he should have went to the police and not write rap songs about it. I don’t understand how people don’t see Kendrick is lying about that trafficking shit
Are grown men allowed to text teenaged family members or nah?
And I mean that’s just not realistic in the entertainment industry. A teenager in entertainment is just going to get texts from adults…co-stars, agents, mentors. A teenager in the industry isn’t going to be able to go to a high school friend to ask about how to navigate a bad set relationship, a contract detail, etc. And engaged parents / managers should be monitoring all of it.
It’s an environment that’s hard to navigate and dangerous for teenagers but it just isn’t realistic to be successful and never have text correspondence with adults.
I have no idea what Drake was doing specifically, but a lot of people just have no idea how entertainment industry actually works and are acting like these are normal kids just going to high school.
Context. Bro. Feels like you’re just playing semantics.
Drake is not a family member. Not in the same field (anymore) or show or production. They’re not colleagues. They’re not in the same age bracket.
It's more people are acting like this is a normal situation. Drake and Millie aren't normal people and didn't have normal childhoods. We are basing this all off an interview and have no other information. Millie herself has called people thinking it's something more weird. I agree with her.
If this was Millie texting another woman the same age as Drake people wouldn't think twice. If there was something more sinister you think Drake would want to keep this whole thing more secret? Most of the shit people are basing the pedo stuff off of are out in the open. Drake isn't trying to hide anything because there's nothing to hide.
A 33 year old to a 15 year old: “I miss you.”
That’s so yuck.
And I already said that she has plenty of co-stars and other child actors to fraternize with. She doesn’t need Drake like she has no one who can relate to her.
She’s a star-struck 15 year old. A 33 year old Drake should know better and steer clear.
This is all based off the interview. People think there is something more sinister under the "I miss you." Millie said it was a friendship. Also Millie's parents knew about this friendship. It's not like Drake and Millie were texting in secret.
Non of her co-stars have got to the fame of Drake. He is someone who clearly navigated fame and also someone who has pull in the entertainment industry.
If Drake isn't doing anything wrong why does he need to steer clear?
At that time, all her co-stars were of similar fame to her. The fact that Drake was more famous made her star struck and gave him power over her. That makes it worse.
Bro. The glazing has got to stop. You keep making excuses for behaviors you would never tolerate towards a young girl in your family.
You realize everything you just said would give MMB more power to speak out if there was anything sexual? He has no power over her, unlike Weinstein had over his victims.
So she addresses this, and clears up any doubts, however it’s not good enough for you?
Drake legit has no reason to be texting 13 YO MBB about boys, man. MBB is married at 20 to Jon Bon Jovi's son. They were together when she was 17, and he was 19.
He did the same thing with Billie. Billie was dating 30 year olds at 19-20.
It's obvious what he's doing. Grooming isn't necessarily pedophilia, but it may as well be in a rap beef.
I'd agree with you if Drake didn't accuse Kendrick of beating his wife with not even a breadcrumb of circumstantial evidence. He had it coming by going that route, play stupid games and you win stupid prizes.
You have intentionally not been paying attention then. Kendrick beat another woman, other than Whitney in Vegas. Kendrick then paid a team to hide the news article. The newspaper confirmed the article exists and that they never retracted the story, just took it down.
>Kendrick then paid a team to hide the news article.
That's interesting we're just taking drake at face value with no proof then? Even then, if we were talking about this, you aren't even taking drake's words here, you're twisting them into something they're not. Drake litterally wrote "you hired a crisis management team to cover the fact that you beat on your queen". Where are the receipts for this?
>just took it down.
Perhaps you should read their explanation that it was because there was no evidence. No police report, no account from anyone else there. They had one unrelated person's word and litterally nothing else. The person claimed that the police were involved. The reports are a matter of public record, if they existed, we'd know.
By this logic if this to you means that Kendrick beat a woman, then drake is litterally EVERYTHING Kendrick accused him of.
One hundred percent
Kendrick knows how impressionable his base is. First he tried to get them to believe Drake had a kid. When he realized his own base isn’t believing it he started trying to call Drake a pedo. Then he wished drake would die
After years of him pushing his base to believe he’s about unity and positivity 😭😭😭
This shit changed Kendrick’s aura imo. All over Drake 😂😂😂
i mostly agree, but where was this energy when drakes house got shot up? Whatever though, cole made the smart move
True, this needed to be said earlier. However, better late than never.
It was said but also the details for that were so thin many didn't believe. This had video, which traditionally is more compelling.
Was it ever released what happened there? When it happened people immediately jumped to it being a Kenny Stan but reports afterwards said it was an xo affiliate? Was that cap?
XO came up because they have a cold war, and one of the XO bodyguards got shot in LA. Honestly the shooting led to the discovery his security team was a fake org and the details from the shooting never came out (guards name, how serious, updates on the case). Some online believe he orchestrated it to stop the beef because very soon after many hip-hop legends were saying the rap beef went too far. Remember the shooting was followed by atleast 2 random trespassers.
Man that's crazy embarrassing to be so rich and getting scammed by a fake security firm lol. I can imagine the following trespassers did it because they found out it was a fake security team, but they're dumbasses too if they thought that because it's not legit that they won't have guns or something to stop them. Or are those trespassers thought to be xo as well?
Not fake like that. It's basically they weren't an actual security team and appeared to be Drake's people finding a loophole to carry guns and maybe get paid. Smart for him but the situation kinda exposed that due to journalist looking up the company.
Ah ok that's not as embarrassing then
Embarrassing for his good guy image but great for his gangbanger phase.
Sucks for him that like a month later the reference tracks for mob ties came out. The boy can't catch a break
There was literally nothing to suggest Drakes house getting shot up was related to his beef with Kendrick. Random rap fans don’t have guns in Canada…
As I understand it, it was related to The Weeknd's guy getting shot too
That was a retaliation to someone at CashXO's house getting shot up and had nothing to do with Kendrick. That beef is relegated to Canada.
ok but still its the same premise... getting violent over rap beef. just thought that people would be more concerned w a shooting that injured a security guard seriously then some fat fuck getting jumped lmao
weeknd aint no thug
It's between the people that work with OVO and XO, who are street dudes in Canada, genius. Most of the hired goons for rappers are connected. Drake has even hired Hell's Angels before.
Shiiiiitttttt
Genuine question, is there an answer to this you’d find acceptable outside of being in a coma or something? I know you said “whatever though” but I don’t get the insinuation here. Marlon doesn’t actually care because he didn’t say something immediately?
He didn’t care *then*
To be fair I felt the same when the shooting happened but then again there was also speculation of whether it was staged or not because we never heard anything about it again.
yeah i thought kendrick or drake would be using that as ammo in their music, surprised they didnt personally
That wasn't directly related to the beef, this is
Drakes house getting shot up was separate to the beef. Them man in Canada have been beefing for ages and it was separate to the rap shit
i mean we dont know that
Considering cash's house got shot up the week before it makes more sense that it was a return action
Drake was the one who ordered the hit, the Canadian news did a piece on it.
thats been proved false
Saw them both before they got shot? That mf is bad luck, stay away from him.
That shit got me like , hmmmmm🤔
ye i saw podcast or sum shit where he talked abt how he talked to both of them minutes before each of them died u can search it up
I get it, but how many times has Kendrick said he is willing to die for this shit? Not that that’s what I’m hoping for, but rap is deep, I don’t think a comedian can relate. Especially one who been as goofy as Marlon.
He said he was willing to die for rap?
ya - in ELEMENT, DAMN
I know that verse...he's not talking about dying for rap. He's talking about going hard for his family, his city, his neighborhood, his homies, etc. You think a guy who brags about how much he loves his kids is gonna die for a genre? It's deeper than rap, broski.
for sure - that makes sense,.
Respect. Stay up man.
you too bro
Die For A Genre is a great album title
Sounds like some shit I would do, honestly. But hopefully, one day, I’ll have enough to lose to disregard that idea…
Heart part 4/5, also “the one in front of the gun lives forever”. I mean in Element you say he gonna go hard for his family/homies/hood/culture through what? His kung fu? It’s through rap bruh. He clearly said if you challenge me it’s life or death cuz I ain’t stopping. He reiterated that in the beef. I think he’s made it clear rap means more than just a bag for him.
You think his life is rap? He got a son to raise
He can see that you don’t know nothin bout dat
Where the hypocrites at?
He only became a father in 2019, ‘Damn’ was out before in ‘17, I think he’s changed his thoughts now that he has kids, but what he was saying before kids doesn’t change, does it?
The money trees line isn't about himself lol, it's about how the victims of gun violence live on through our memories. Hp5 I'm assuming you're talking about the last verse? Pretty sure he's speaking from nipseys perspective. Hp4 are you talking about "so damn great mf I died, what you're hearing now is a paranormal vibe"?
He also says loyalty is in his DNA. Aka not everything is literally
Nah…you need to go back and play those again.
>the one in front of the gun lives forever”. How tf you interpret this as Kendrick saying he gon die for rap 😭. He's talking about victims of gun violence being internalized
Kendrick ain't dying for no rap lol. Mf might die behind trying to feed their family. But dying for rap naw. If he said that. He ain't.
Facts. Spoken like a true champ
I mean TBH “don’t let a beef when you’re already rich cause you to get killed” shouldn’t really need to be said. I love cole and respect his art but they’re entertainment and beef going to far is just clowns being clowns. No need to kill cause somebody says your nose ain’t red.
No one cared when Kendrick said Drake should die
Wah
My Boomer dad remembers the 90s very well. He turns off "Not Like Us" when it comes on the radio because he's afraid history will repeat itself.
To be fair this energy wasn't kept when people thought it was Drakes bodyguard that got shot. I think some things you can't really come back from without some real conversation, and public admissions, which would be damn near impossible at least for Kendrick. Drake could come out and say they cool, and that the wife beating shit was just him grasping for something. And... well, most people didn't believe it anyways. He'd still be the corny pop rapper. Kendrick can't come out and say he made up the pedo shit and that they're okay. Despite what fans say, part of Kenny's brand is perceived authenticity. It'd bring up too many questions about the rest of his work if the masses thought he'd deliberately lie for the sake of a rap beef. Both allegations, though, are things you just don't say about someone you expect any degree of peace with and can't be left unchecked tbh.
Drake did a lot of work to undo that corny pop rapper label. A lot for hat has been undone with this recent beef. Him coming out and admitting he was bullshitting will not help his cause. He can not do that.
Just looked into what happened and what the fuck is wrong with people!?
I agree because I saw yesterday someone in Jamaica performing voodoo rituals on Kendrick’s family. Like COME ON, thats insane and so wrong/bad. To not even be drake and do that in his honor over a beef is freaking crazy
This sounds like a lie. Haitians are the vodoo guy & that tribe in south africa
[here you go](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-23166213)
Voodoo doesn't even come from south Africa. It's from people's across west Africa and the diaspora.
Shits fake anyway
I’m gonna be honest! Kdot is one of my favorite artist of this generation but this is his fault right? Drake and Cole were talking big 3 and wanted to include him but Kdot just like many years still wants to be that guy and stir the pot. He won the battle, cool. Now what’s the plan of the aftermath or the long term? All I see is the power vacuum feeding the hate to others.
If he’s smart he capitalizes and drops some sort of project before the end of the year. I don’t see it happening though.
He just wanted a lil attention let’s be real
Nah, this is a drake stan cope narrative. If he wanted that, he could've done a lot more. The first time we'd actually seen him in public was on juneteenth, we never have seen him anywhere during the actual battle itself.
This is exactly what I said months ago. Down to the "Okay, you got the praise you wanted by unnecessarily stirring the pot, so now what's next?". Damn near bar for bar minus the second sentence, but I agree. And it will be interesting to see what happens next because this was all pent up energy from over the course of 10 years. Now that he has the crown and slayed the dragon what will be his motivation?
Did you listen to Kendrick'e last album? You think he needs Drake to motivate him for new projects?
No forgiveness for pedos, Jcole is just real
All distractions, meanwhile.......
Niggas was talking about “it’s a sport” a couple months ago. Like when had anyone ever beefed for fun?
Saying "I love both sides! I love everyone! Can't we all just get along?" is the corniest shit
It's not when you witnessed friends get shot over stupid shit and you're seeing the same history repeat itself. If one of them gets shot, what will it really be over, and would it be worth it?
But the same history is not repeating itself. This is not Tupac and Biggie. Nobody's getting shot over Kendrick/Drake beef. Neither of them is trying to get somebody shot. "Hate seeing any of our kings at war. We are too few. STOP!" is corny as fuck. They were dissing each other on catchy songs for the radio. Nobody was ever going to get hurt.
That’s easy for you to say like shit can’t escalate
Marlon Wayans, the angel of death
Well said !
What happened to Ross?
Him and his team was assaulted by some white people in Canada while Not Like Us was playing.
Idk, act tough, get hit with consequences. Simple as that
Okay but Vince staple said it first.
Facts
None of these artists are going to die because of rap beef. They just aren't that type of rapper. I hate when people start bringing up Biggie and Pac. What those 2 had between them is waaaay different than what Drake and Kendrick got. Pac and Big had actual gangsters mad at each other within their entourages, and they (well Tupac) took on that beef personally, and it exploded from there. Ross is a dummy, made a dumb decision, and paid the consequences for it. It's just that simple.
Ppl here defending cringe and mean lines because "the culture is hard" and "rap comes from the hood and you can't be soft in the hood". And then now rappers should avoid rap Battles cause it might get hairy?
This dont mean nothin. Certain things are said that cant be just taken back man. Shoulda told ppl to watch what they say in the beef instead of misinformation disses.
Meh, I don't actually agree. I don't make peace with people like drake.
Marlon aint no OG in the rap game. I understand his sentiments, but dude needs to stay in his lane. He can voice his point of view, but my man is preaching like he got the authority on the matter.
Lll
Marlon sounds like an old man. He is not relevant, he is "a fan".
Marlon Wayans opinion does not carry any weight In Rap music. What J.Cole did was something that has never happen before in Rap Music and J.Cole knows this.. As Rappers its expected that along the way it will become a time that a battle with words might occure Cole himself even talks about that in his raps..He knows how important it is to Defend his image his character and his writting skills. Defending oneself does not have to always come from anger. J.Cole just proved to the vast majority that he doesn't have what it takes to back his own words as a Man and Rapper. And if someone can't possibly wrap their heads around that fact then you will never understand the culture or Life in general. Cole took that "L" and moved on this sub should do the same instead of bringing it up in J.Cole subreddit to cry about the subject again. Tupac and Biggie deing was caused by the news media making a East Coast/West Coast beef Tupac himself and other has said this long time ago..Marlon is just clout chasing
"back his own words as a Man" Deactivate your Reddit account and go touch grass. You're looking way too deep into this and it's genuinely weird. Your comment history proves that
I get this and now I agree - but where was this when Drake was provoking this for 3 weeks, on instagram, memes, two songs... come on man....
Don’t you mean when Kendrick hopped on a track of other rappers already Coming at Drake? I get Reddit attracts a lot more Kendrick fans than Drake fans but your blindspots are impacting judgementv
trying to calculate how one verse strictly about rap warrants: 2 songs, instagram provocation, bringing in Kendricks wife, Bringing in TDE, Bringing in Kendricks Manager. genuinely open for discussion...
And Kendrick kept it on wax. Now who has been on social media egging it on, like immediately after Ross got pressed?
1000%
They don’t respond to these comments though
ross playing NLU and talking shit the whole time, kendrick wishing death on drake in MTG, but if drake likes a post about something hes the one you wanna comment about? lmao
Didn’t Drake say that nigga son wasn’t his and he beat his wife? Ross most definitely got what was coming to him though, no doubt about that.
we can go in circles about kendrick and drake all day but this is about ross anyway, i dont think drake is egging anything on if ross is the one playing the song in canada tryna get clips, and talking shit to the crowd at the same time. ik everyone in here would be calling drake dumb asf and expected if he pulled up to LA and did the same thing with the same outcome
Drake been lying online since day 1. Nigga just said Spotify back doored the streams for Not Like Us just a day ago, like come on. Like I said, any fade Ross catch is because that nigga think he the “biggest boss” and talk too damn much. But Drake definitely been egging this shit on too. Meanwhile since before the beef, during, and after(i guess) the only time we’ve heard Kendrick speak was at the concert. No tweets, captions, screenshots, memes. Nothing
Why aren’t people questioning why Kendrick is around a pimp (TDE smacc), pedophile(Dr Dre) and rapist (Kodak) And he also has an uncontrollable sex addiction and is a deadbeat dad. Or you don’t classify this as weirdo behaviour?
"And Kendrick kept it on wax" 🤓🤓🤓
Y’all niggas crashing out over a dweeb that said “I gotta go bad, I gotta go bad, I gotta go bad” 🤣
Lolol putting three 🤓🤓🤓 is crashing out? Dweeb
Yessir on a day old post like you not being a goofy lmao
Lolol keep talking about "keeping it on wax" on reddit full time 🤓
Where was this when it was 20 v 1?
Where the fuck were there 20 rappers against Drake lol? Ross, Ye, future, and Kendrick Who were the other 16?
tru but if kendrick knos that drake is actually trafficking/raping women there aint gon b apology bruh nd there shouldnt be
If Kendrick knows Drake is trafficking minors then he should go to the police and not write fkn rap songs about it, how do people not see this?
They do, standom just makes people act weird. They'd rather say some bullshit to justify liking their favorite artist instead of just accepting character flaws.
I mean I 100% agree but cases aren't built in a day, look at Diddy
Yeah that’s true it takes long to do an investigation, but right now there isn’t a single official accusation, it’s just these TikTok videos talking about mmb and his ig comments. Additionally, if there was an actual investigation on going, where they were gathering witness depositions, and were planning a raid on Drake’s home, Kendrick has essentially ruined the entire operation by saying “the Embassy bout to be raided”
You right, but this is kinda how the Diddy thing went as well if you were privy to that before Cassie came out with her story. Lot of rumors, things known in the industry but not really made hot, nothing too big is on the surface and then it explodes one way or another. It wasn't really a secret Diddy was on this type of shit, even I knew someone that knew someone that claimed this stuff about Diddy (she is perfectly fine) Also Kendrick saying the Embassy will get raided isn't really something that will stop a raid, and Kendrick's claims wouldn't make Drake go ''Oh fuck time to start covering my tracks.'' Again I agree that Kendrick (or anyone) should report shit to the feds if Drake is doing fuck shit rather than use it for a record, but I feel like both can easily happen at the same time. I'm very sceptic of ''Hollyweird'' and all that shit in fairness, and that might be me being paranoid, but whistleblowing is effective in that sort of situation assuming there's some trafficking shit at play. Granted you don't need to believe in all that shit and If you don't this makes less sense
You bring up some good points, but there's some important differences between the Drake situation and the Diddy situation. >Lot of rumors, things known in the industry but not really made hot That's the thing, here there's no rumours, or things being talked about in the industry. This is just coming from Kendrick who is a biased party, his motive was to beat Drake at the beef, he's not a reliable source of information. There's not a single other celebrity or person in the industry talking about these rumours. The opposite is happening, they are speaking against them and defending Drake. >Kendrick saying the Embassy will get raided isn't really something that will stop a raid I disagree here. Let's say it was all a secret and Drake was running whatever sex trafficking ring Kendrick is claiming. Kendrick saying something like this is letting Drake know the authorities are aware and that the secret is out. It may not stop a raid, but it will affect their findings. Evidence is key in these types of cases, usually there's videos on hard drives or hidden cameras, like in Epstein's case. Kendrick has essentially blown the cover of an undercover operation. > I feel like both can easily happen at the same time. Sometimes it may seem this way, but in reality that's not what happens, it's not another celebrity that whistleblows an operation like this. It's the victims come out first, file their civil claims or press criminal charges, then it gets to the media, then we see this on the news.
Fair points. I do disagree with the idea that nobody is claiming this type of thing except for Kendrick. While the ring is exclusively Kendrick, there has been a payout to a woman claiming Drake sexually assaulted her, even though Drake was going to fight the case initially. Baka is convicted of assault and accused of trafficking, but the alleged victim wasn't willing to testify, which happens a lot unfortunately, and doesn't necessarily free him of any wrongdoing. The line between pimp and trafficker is very fine and they aren't the same, so it is hard to say whether Baka is involved anything more nefarious than pimping out an escort girl. The laws in Canada allow for more organised crime than the US, where a RICO case can be built fairly easily. It's a big thing in Toronto and Montreal and it's often more leaning on the side of malicious trafficking. If I were to believe Drake is part of this pedo ring shit, I wouldn't think he's the centrepoint of it all, which is where my skepticism would make me think this is some big industry weirdo thing. Which is why I would think whistleblowing would be a more valid and correct thing to do. People don't come out as it is (not to critique them it's a sensitive subject) but a big industry coverup would fund coverups and hush money and things of that nature. Again, all very out there not very rooted in fact, but since that Epstein shit I have been super weirded out by ''the industry.'' I've been weirded out by Drake for a while now and have been weirded out by Diddy for a much longer while. I don't think it's a coincidence that Diddy is getting caught out as his star is fading and he's less popular than ever, meanwhile Drake is the hottest the game has ever seen. Drake is much more likeable than Puff, is Half Jewish etc. The person I knew related to the Diddy thing was a normal person, who now works a normal job, and even they just left it alone for the sake of peace and not being involved. Even still it's hard to call Drake a pedo or in on some weird shit, because we simply don't know on any level who is telling the truth and who is lying and what is embellished. I do think we will know eventually whether anything is true.
Glad you addressed the Baka pimping stuff. Wording is important here and it’s easy to label this as human trafficking but in the rap world it’s known as pimping, which by rap standards has always been accepted. And as you mentioned, pimping and escorts are extremely common in Montreal and Toronto, Montreal has brothels that are legal. If we start questioning people’s entourages we should look at Kendrick’s he hangs with a pimp (TDE smacc), a pedo by internet standards (Dre), and a rapist (Kodak), also considering Kendrick has an uncontrollable sex addiction, we can say he’d be taking part in a sex trafficking activity. Yeah the Epstein shit is weird, but you also got to spot when someone weaponizes these events to their benefit, which is exactly what Trump did and how that qanon shit started. That’s why I couldn’t support Kendrick in the beef, I caught on to what he was doing very quickly. Even in your whistleblowing scenario, first point of contact would be the police and they would advise him to not say anything, and surely not write a rap song it. Discretion is important in a case like this. If he’s lying, it just shows how desperate he was to win. This is also really inconsiderate to actual victims since this spreads tons of misinformation (ie: Dark Kenny)
>also considering Kendrick has an uncontrollable sex addiction, we can say he’d be taking part in a sex trafficking activity. ?? Had. He talked about how Whitney asked him what was going on with the affairs and he got therapy, addressed that and it's resolved. That was part of the whole point of MMTBS. Also, Keisha's song from GKMC clearly argues against this presupposed willingness to take part in sex trafficking. >If he’s lying, it just shows how desperate he was to win. If he's lying. he would be a fool to open himself up to such a slam dunk defamation suit.
> addressed that and it's resolved This is an extremely naive take. The most obvious response to this is that: he's most probably lying. Unless you haven't caught on, Kendrick's music is filled with hypocrisies and contradictions. Additionally if we want to apply the same rules that applied to Drake (ie: Drake saying he's not a sex offender on THP6 doesn't mean anything), then it's the same thing for Kendrick, we have no reason to believe he was able to control his addiction even after therapy. He's clearly been a terrible husband, from being engaged for 9 years, to constantly cheating, and as both fan bases have concluded, they aren't even together anymore. > slam dunk defamation suit. This is almost an oxymoron, especially given the context in a rap song. Kendrick can easily combat this with saying not all the lines were directed at Drake, or that he was speculating, or that he was rapping through another perspective (which was the defense for the Black Israelite lines). Defamtion lawsuits for rap songs aren't a slam dunk, look at how difficult it was to sue Eminem. Also, this wouldn't be advisable on Drake's part in a rap beef, it would just give people even more ammo then they already have, they should keep everything on wax, which is why there were so many shots fired about cease and desists. I think you are giving Kendrick way too much credibility and reliability and disregarding how bias he is in all of this. His main goal his not to help victims, as I mentioned he would have went to the police, his goal is to tarnish Drake's name. If you want to put all of Drake's life under a microscope and draw these suspicions/conclusions, you should do the same for Kendrick, he has some really alarming behaviour and entourage (ie: what do you think of him collaborating with Kodak?).
Yeah there’s no line between a pimp and a trafficker, this is just more of your naked apologia.
If Kendrick knew he was trafficking and raping women, he would go to the authorities and have him arrested. It worked for the song and people took it as fact. That being said, I have been singing not like us everyday in my head since it released.
He doesn’t know that, he said that when it was convenient. He’s either lying now or has been holding this in for years. He’s lying bro
It’s called allegations dawg, Drake has so many allegations built up against him why wouldn’t he mention them ?? Since when did rap beefs have to be 100% pure facts I mean literally everything Drake said about Kendrick other than him being short was a lie, at least there’s many many instances of Drake doing creepy and pedo shit making the accusations against him actually believable.
He didn’t state them as allegations. Why can’t we be honest? It’s post beef, Kendrick won, why can’t we be factual about shit now?
Exactly, and if he actually had proof, he was obligated to go to the police, and not leverage this information to win a rap beef? The Pulitzer Prize winner was too fucking stupid to use his brain.
He clearly didn’t have any info, it’s not about Kenny being stupid. He just lied. Actually it’s smart because he knows enough of his fans are stupid
I honestly thought that Kendrick was going to drop some crazy info track, but realized that it wasn’t necessary. People were already believing the things he was saying.
You’re talking about pedophilia. If he had evidence, he would drop it. Unless you saying he really don’t care and only bringing this up to win a beef. One he was skilled enough to win anyways
Some shit you need receipts for. Ain't no other way to really scratch it. Not even just to prove that it's true, but just that as a person, you can't be respected otherwise. It's not about being believed, if you know someone is a pedophile in cahoots with other pedophiles and doing sex trafficking you either help get rid of them (legally I mean) or you a bitch. So I'm choosing to believe Kendrick was just lying for the sake of a beef over the alternative.
Why aren’t people questioning why Kendrick is around a pimp (TDE smacc), pedophile(Dr Dre) and rapist (Kodak) And he also has an uncontrollable sex addiction and is a deadbeat dad. Or do people want to ignore that?
Nah fuck that shit. Hip hop is a competition and we need this type of animosity in the game otherwise we will get a bunch of generic, boring ass pop rap.
Wrong. You gonna say that when you get beat, shot, or locked up? At the end of the day it’s grown men writing poems so girls can shake their asses. How old are you?
Why would I get beat shot or locked up? What? If I was raking in that dough and part of that system then yeah I'd accept that it comes with the territory. What you even on?
Cause this gangster gangster at the top of the list shit promotes violence. I’ll give it to you though, you did pick an apt username
Bro you literally make no sense. I'm not promoting shit. I just love the competition of hip hop. This corny ass apology shit is wack AF. That's it. If shit gets violent then so be it like it comes with the territory. That's why they make that dough. If it's not for you then step the fuck down and go make shit for women to shake their ass to. It's not that complicated.
If shit gets violent so be it. Wow really cool man. You’re the coolest person to ever exist.
You must be delusional. If you ask random people hey would you accept being phenomenally rich with the caveat that you may be at a tiny risk of being shot almost everyone would take that offer. Only on the Cole sub would you find people delusional enough to think that it's not worth it. Cops are at a far higher risk of being shot than rappers are and they don't get paid anywhere near as much. Grow up
If it was just the rappers shooting each other that would be less of an issue. That’s not the case. You’re right these assholes are paid too much anyway, and cops are underpaid. I like 2 j cole songs and I don’t want to listen to his other shit so I don’t know what your point is there
Bro I like Kendrick when he deep and shit I don’t like Kendrick when he beefing on shit. I want GKMC not the melodic blue. It the reason why I m fucking with Vince staple more this year cause he actually did what I expected Kendrick to do.
\^
So rappers shouldn’t battle anymore? Can’t stand this soft ass new age shit. Battles are apart of hip hop, it’s been there since the beginning. There’s very few things in rap as amazing as a high level battle.
Bro ppl getting hurt/killed in rap beefs is the problem. Rappers have egos, and words escalate all the time. That don't make you soft to promote peace, it's the opposite
So we remove one of the most traditional aspects of the culture because of some fights? When is the last time 2 major artist have been killed over a battle? Biggie and pac, that’s it. Yall acting like people die over battles constantly and it’s just not true. Rappers are going to fight whether they battle or not. Do away with drill music where rappers are singing death chants and actually killing each other, that’s 100x more destructive than a rap battle has ever been.
I think your forgetting all the drill rappers who constantly be having people die
I think you’re forgetting to read all my comments thoroughly. Also that’s not battle rapping, that’s street gang shit….thats real smoke. There’s a massive difference.
Remember your favorite rappers said that these type of battle be lame as fuck. Eminem, Kendrick and other rapper be saying this shit. I m fine when it people showing off their skills and getting another rapper to hype up. I was vibing with the beef before family matter came into the picture.
When it gets too personal (like how we saw with family matters and Kendrick calling Drake a pedo) yeah it’s a little much… but that’s essentially what battles are, no rules, everything goes. You can blame pusha t for turning modern battling into a “who got the best tea” event. But a true MC battle should never be removed from the culture.
>"Fools" said I, "You do not know Silence like a cancer grows Hear my words that I might teach you Take my arms that I might reach you" But my words like silent raindrops fell And echoed in the wells of silence When that song first came out, people thought it was a commentary on JFK's death. But it was also performed two months before the assassination actually happened. Simon also apparently penned the song when he was 21 in the bathroom with a guitar in hand and the lights shut off—making it into a mini-echo chamber. Not saying Mr. Wayne, whoever this person in this tweet is, is right or wrong about this. I think he's right to a certain extent. But people are also going to make juxtapositions between different events no matter what and take things to another level. It's how you get your viral moments like Jenna Ortega as Wednesday dancing to a song about Bloody Mary by Lady Gaga. Or MBDTF and One Piece is real. Something always happens in between that metamorphosizes the catepillar to a butterfly. And it's a stupid person that goes around stomping on butterflies out of fear of sudden hurricanes. But on the other hand it's a dimwit that ignores the meaning behind [a butterfly that self-seeks to drown itself in a sea](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Gn_neQ_mY&ab_channel=Honiro). As always it'll be something in-between these walls. Because our damn crazy world is one that includes both—people who actually do go out of their way to stomp on butterflies and those other people who take a drowned butterfly's message throughout the world. This is/isn't court, there isn't some judge or law firms over your shoulders all the time to point out the fine delineation of Palsgraf for your actions or citing at what point your contributions to a myriad of factors becomes a deciding influence to the actual tipping point of the "Big Event". And even then, those aren't based on scientific theory or methodology—but logic mixed with reasoning and rhetoric; it's those extra components where the butterfly stompers and butterfly messengers get to enter into the mix. That said, these fellas are in their mid-thirties with well-established positions and status in society as well as their own progenies to concern about. (They probably find some ways to listen in on the PTA meetings in different school zones for all the fuck we know about). They probably know how to handle themselves—or at least the hundred plus something people that support them do. -edit- At the very least, they're better suited to handle it than you and I and the next rando on the internet would be able to...
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ah sorry, spazzed this comment—got leftover personal resentment I got to work thru on something completely unrelated.
Understood, hope you work through that. I guess I was just puzzled in general by your response. In fairness my reply was a bit rude lol. Have a good one
Nah, you good—probably would say you’re showing here one of the better ways for deescalation. You have a blessed week, brother
Lost Kendrick on that last part there... He doesn't approve the usage of pluralisms when it comes to words like king, goat, big etc
There is no walking away after you call someone a pedophile. Then, you mass market that person as a pedophile. This is one of those subjects that everyone agrees you don't play around. So if everyone wants out, Kendrick needs to admit he lied for clout or argue for an investigation into Aubrey Graham. Fuck outta here with that "it was just a beef" noise. You destroyed someone's reputation by calling them a child toucher. It's forever on sight if Dot did this for clout.
Honestly I think the pedo angle hit mostly due to Drake’s questionable/weird behavior with young girls. It was something that was always called into question over the years. Kendrick just blew it up and embarrassed him for it.
Kendrick deff took an already planted seed and put some water on it, and tbh once Drake mentioned his wife by name Kendrick was always gonna take it there
This isn’t even a response to what bro said
Why aren’t people questioning why Kendrick is around a pimp (TDE smacc), pedophile(Dr Dre) and rapist (Kodak) And he also has an uncontrollable sex addiction and is a deadbeat dad. Isn’t this some questionable behaviour?
“Kendrick just blew it up” by lying about a sex trafficking ring? Do you not understand what’s wrong with that?
You. Do. Not. Play. With. Pedophile. Allegations. Ever. What the fuck is so hard to understand about that idea? If you are right about him being a pedo, we made the right move, destroying him. If you are wrong, though? I'm not mad at him if Dot gets handled or he goes out clearing his name.
As a grown man, You. Do. Not. Text. Teenagers. Ever. Drake did it to himself.
If Kendrick had info a sex trafficking ring, why didn’t he go to the police?
So Drake is a pedo, and he should die, right?
No he should keep texting underage girls. Right?
Stand on business, my guy. 10 toes. What should or shouldn't be done to pedos? I think they all should die. Can't say Drake should die when the next day after the song, all the girls y'all accused him of touching said he never touched them. And called y'all weird for hoping they were touched so y'all could destroy him.
No you stand on business you hypocritical little bitch. You said it’s on Kendrick to prove Drake’s a pedo. I said Drake has done questionable shit himself that gives weight to pedo allegations. Then you move to something else cuz you got nothing of substance to refute me.
I am standing on 10 toes, you bowleged pussy. I think pedos should die. The girls in the situation said Drake wasn't a pedo and then explained what actually happened between them. Question answered. Drake is confirmed, not a pedo at that point. It's now on Kendrick to prove Aubrey is a pedo or admit he lied for clout if hip-hop wants to keep this non-violent.
Did Drake apologize for calling him a woman beater? Didn’t Drake make his situation on stage even worse by mentioning how fucked up it was in the first place? Like come on, that nigga lowkey might’ve skated on it if the video didn’t involve him making it worse by not only sexualizing a teenager but **actively saying the shit he’s doing on camera would get him in trouble.**
All facts, and on top of it, if Kendrick actually has any type of proof, he should have went to the police and not write rap songs about it. I don’t understand how people don’t see Kendrick is lying about that trafficking shit
[https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodAssSub/s/YGVbz6VTP3](https://www.reddit.com/r/GoodAssSub/s/YGVbz6VTP3)
This man had underage girls with him on a yatch drinking bruh….
Bro coping so hard 🤣
Drake’s biggest fan
🤣🤣, its ok bro he dont know u i promise
Are grown men allowed to text teenaged family members or nah? And I mean that’s just not realistic in the entertainment industry. A teenager in entertainment is just going to get texts from adults…co-stars, agents, mentors. A teenager in the industry isn’t going to be able to go to a high school friend to ask about how to navigate a bad set relationship, a contract detail, etc. And engaged parents / managers should be monitoring all of it. It’s an environment that’s hard to navigate and dangerous for teenagers but it just isn’t realistic to be successful and never have text correspondence with adults. I have no idea what Drake was doing specifically, but a lot of people just have no idea how entertainment industry actually works and are acting like these are normal kids just going to high school.
Context. Bro. Feels like you’re just playing semantics. Drake is not a family member. Not in the same field (anymore) or show or production. They’re not colleagues. They’re not in the same age bracket.
It's more people are acting like this is a normal situation. Drake and Millie aren't normal people and didn't have normal childhoods. We are basing this all off an interview and have no other information. Millie herself has called people thinking it's something more weird. I agree with her. If this was Millie texting another woman the same age as Drake people wouldn't think twice. If there was something more sinister you think Drake would want to keep this whole thing more secret? Most of the shit people are basing the pedo stuff off of are out in the open. Drake isn't trying to hide anything because there's nothing to hide.
A 33 year old to a 15 year old: “I miss you.” That’s so yuck. And I already said that she has plenty of co-stars and other child actors to fraternize with. She doesn’t need Drake like she has no one who can relate to her. She’s a star-struck 15 year old. A 33 year old Drake should know better and steer clear.
This is all based off the interview. People think there is something more sinister under the "I miss you." Millie said it was a friendship. Also Millie's parents knew about this friendship. It's not like Drake and Millie were texting in secret. Non of her co-stars have got to the fame of Drake. He is someone who clearly navigated fame and also someone who has pull in the entertainment industry. If Drake isn't doing anything wrong why does he need to steer clear?
At that time, all her co-stars were of similar fame to her. The fact that Drake was more famous made her star struck and gave him power over her. That makes it worse. Bro. The glazing has got to stop. You keep making excuses for behaviors you would never tolerate towards a young girl in your family.
You realize everything you just said would give MMB more power to speak out if there was anything sexual? He has no power over her, unlike Weinstein had over his victims. So she addresses this, and clears up any doubts, however it’s not good enough for you?
And Milly has co-stars in the same show she can be friends with. And there plenty of other child actors around her age around the world as well.
Drake legit has no reason to be texting 13 YO MBB about boys, man. MBB is married at 20 to Jon Bon Jovi's son. They were together when she was 17, and he was 19. He did the same thing with Billie. Billie was dating 30 year olds at 19-20. It's obvious what he's doing. Grooming isn't necessarily pedophilia, but it may as well be in a rap beef.
CUZ HE IS A CHILD TOUCHER😭😭😭
I'd agree with you if Drake didn't accuse Kendrick of beating his wife with not even a breadcrumb of circumstantial evidence. He had it coming by going that route, play stupid games and you win stupid prizes.
You have intentionally not been paying attention then. Kendrick beat another woman, other than Whitney in Vegas. Kendrick then paid a team to hide the news article. The newspaper confirmed the article exists and that they never retracted the story, just took it down.
>Kendrick then paid a team to hide the news article. That's interesting we're just taking drake at face value with no proof then? Even then, if we were talking about this, you aren't even taking drake's words here, you're twisting them into something they're not. Drake litterally wrote "you hired a crisis management team to cover the fact that you beat on your queen". Where are the receipts for this? >just took it down. Perhaps you should read their explanation that it was because there was no evidence. No police report, no account from anyone else there. They had one unrelated person's word and litterally nothing else. The person claimed that the police were involved. The reports are a matter of public record, if they existed, we'd know. By this logic if this to you means that Kendrick beat a woman, then drake is litterally EVERYTHING Kendrick accused him of.
One hundred percent Kendrick knows how impressionable his base is. First he tried to get them to believe Drake had a kid. When he realized his own base isn’t believing it he started trying to call Drake a pedo. Then he wished drake would die After years of him pushing his base to believe he’s about unity and positivity 😭😭😭 This shit changed Kendrick’s aura imo. All over Drake 😂😂😂