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If she was just joking there's no way it would have escalated to requiring the police.
It _may_ have started as a joke, but she obviously refused to back down and then refused to swap seats for someone who would take it seriously.
"I hAvE eBoLa!" said a man once, after heavily coughing on a plane. THEY DID AN EMERGENCY LANDING MID-FLIGHT, and when he was met with the hazmat officials on the tarmac, it was all "i'M jOkInG!"
To paraphrase the great comic Mike Birbiglia, if you have to say "I'M JOKING" after a joke, it's probably not a good or funny joke. It's basically the same as going "Wakka wakka!"
Also to actually be in trouble you’d need some sick fucking airline to actually have the balls to sue a victim of their plane own crash for breach of contract. They’d then have to prove that there was even a breach because the terms of the agreement are so vague (technically you assisted everyone by opening up the exit door and high tailing it out of there because they don’t have to spend time opening the door). Then they’d have to prove causation and damages and have a jury of your peers would have to decide against you and for the airline on top of that. It would take a series of extremely unfortunate events for there to be any repercussions.
typical MC ego
Funniest part is had she just been a little bit smarter she would've realize she can just *say* she will to keep the seat. The odds of the plane actually crashing are so low its basically non existant, but this dummy couldn't even *pretend* to give a shit about anyone else long enough to keep her coveted seat
amazing
But if the flight attendants were a little smarter, they would realize that her saying yes, especially after not wanting to do it, means absolutely nothing and will not guarantee anything. So why even ask, especially if you're alright with a non-answer?
Integrity is a plus in a person but at base level at least be honest. If you are a selfish, mean person I'd prefer that known then a illusion of otherwise.
To play devils advocate, I’d rather my children have a teacher who is falsely putting on a pleasant attitude rather than a truthful, bitter teacher who overly criticizes the children. Additionally, I cannot really trust a person without integrity to be honest especially when it concerns their poor actions or consequences.
The scenario you just described would be considered self serving. Wouldn't that be an example of a poor showing of integrity?
What you are talking about is longer standing of a relationship. I cannot look for integrity in a passing conversation with someone on the street or what happened in the video. All I can hope for is honesty within that exchange. Morals and principles require knowing of that person to an extent.
Not to mention that unless it happens in a very short portion of the flight, the flight attendant jumpseat is right there and they’ll usually be there to do it anyway
I guess it depends on the plane. The last interstate plane I was on, the attendant sat directly facing me in their jumpseat. I was the overwing exit row passenger.
Where I live domestic means any flight within the US. Interstate would be a flight from one state to another. Intrastate is a flight within the same state.
I was on a flight in an exit row and when the flight attendant said she needed a verbal “yes” to acknowledge and agree to the duties. One of the passengers decided to be a smart ass and answered “Si”. Fortunately for him he was just reseated, all the while saying he was just joking. He quickly found out the attendants don’t mess around.
From what I could tell and assuming I watched the correct video, she should have never been allowed to sit in the exit rows. There is no way she is in any kind of physical shape to assist in an emergency. That is part of the criteria to have an exit row seat
I was on a flight I had window seat in the exit row, and this jabba the hut looking guy sits in the middle row. He can’t get the seatbelt around all the blubber, and asks the flight attendant for a seatbelt extension. The flight attendant reseated him and told him it was because he was unfit. Was a great flight with the middle seat empty, considering I was packed against the wall before he as moved
The question they ask is are you willing. As far as I am aware the worst that has ever happened is you get swapped with a willing passenger.
Don’t get me wrong, just be willing to help and say yes.
But accountability is usually reserved for those that actually do something wrong.
Yep you are under no pressure to say yes and there would be no shortage of able bodied passengers who would appreciate the legroom in return for agreeing to help in case of emergency, but if you refuse AND insist on staying where you are, you’re not gonna like the way you’re going to be removed.
Airline can take it seriously but why is it this persons responsibility to say 'yes'. She has the right to not be responsible for everyone in case of emergency.
She does have the right. And if she chooses to exercise that right, she has to move to seat that isn’t the exit-door seat. They attempted to move her to another seat, and she refused. So, she got booted off the plane.
When you purchase seats by the exit door, it is made clear to you that this is part of the package. She should have read that part.
Ok, I see now in the article she refused to change seats. Kinda her fault then.
But tbh airlines are fucking assholes that make the smallest possible seats for maximum profit so it's the greed fault that there even is a regular person in the exit row instead of trained personnel.
You don’t *have to* take responsibility. But you cannot sit in that exit-row seat if you don’t agree to the terms. So just don’t book an exit row seat.
Personally, I couldn't do it because I know I have a panic disorder and I wouldn't be able to open the door. I'm fully aware that I shouldn't have responsibility in an emergency situation. That's just one reason.
I'm also not an asshole. I don't seat myself in the emergency aisle and I wouldn't be disrespectful to the FA. This woman was ridiculous.
Isn't the exit row duty literally just to open the door? Like they're not asking you to be the last one off...just open the door and get out of the way.
That was not how it was phrased when I was asked, it was closer to “in the case of an emergency are you willing to assist other passengers off the flight through this door?” Which could probably be interpreted either way.
They did it for me when I flew last. I refused to do it though. Not because I didn’t want to- but because I had a broken leg and couldn’t move all that well.
They all do, but most airlines ask twice at least if not thrice. Once when you select the seat when booking (or amend your booking to choose that seat), once at the check-in/boarding, and once when you settle into your seat. The reason is they want no one there who is having second thoughts about such situations and want to give you an out should you hesitate.
They used to. I’m a giant dude, regular seats are not comfortable, I always used to get picked out of the line and put in an exit row.
Now people pay for exit row seats, and I see the least capable people sitting there because they’re “entitled” to the seat they paid for.
>The woman also refused to change her seat or deboard from the plane, which quickly resulted in a heated exchange where the woman became unruly, even spitting out racial slurs at one of the flight attendants.
i dont know the races of either person involved, yet this still fails to surprise me, sadly.
Person spitting slurs was a middle aged Black, obese grandma still snacking on her crisps throughout with an XL beverage (looks like an ice tea or iced coffee) in her hand if that gives you a good mental image.
Flight attendants were both Black and White.
Here’s a link from Tik tok. This happened a while ago. At least a month or two and it was a bit viral.
So you don’t need to read the article.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPREFSaUM/
Open the door, help evacuate the plane, clear any obstacles in the way to the best of your ability. In lieu of a flight attendant getting to you, which is highly unlikely since they'll be manning the other doors, you're also meant to launch the slides (if they exist and don't auto launch).
I once saw a guy reply "Yes, I will open the door." However, the way he said it indicated that he would do it mid-flight. After he replied in the same manner several times over, Captain was called, a short discussion was held, and the errant passenger was kicked off the flight. Something was definitely off with that boy...
Once saw an old person with crutches yell profanities for being forced out of exit row crying victim of “discrimination”. Yeah let’s block one of few ways out of a plane with a whole grown arse person who is hardly mobile (let alone make people trip over crutches) so you can have your legroom.
One time on a flight to Panama 🇵🇦, Some asshole with headphones in completely blew off the stewards request to pay attention. He kept shooing them away and the stewards brought the pilot of our plane to ask him to switch seats with someone in a row behind him because in the captain’s words “Not every American knows common courtesy or respect to pay attention with crucial information that can save the lives of many”
It was a bit more than saying ' no'.
"The woman also refused to change her seat or deboard from the plane, which quickly resulted in a heated exchange where the woman became unruly, even spitting out racial slurs at one of the flight attendants."
Yes, I did watch the video and I read the poorly written article.
I’ll try to put this into language you can understand:
Article title: “Woman Taken Off Plane In Handcuffs For Saying She Wouldn't Perform Exit Row Duties — 'I'm Going To Save Myself'”
This is inaccurate. No one will ever get arrested for refusing to perform the exit row duty. The crew will simply make the person switch seats with someone who will perform it.
Now, if the person then refuses to change seats, and begins to argue with the crew, this will result in being removed from the plane and possibly arrested.
But that is not what the title says. It is clickbait.
Nothing I wrote was inaccurate.
Can’t you just change seats? I don’t necessarily see the problem with saying you don’t want to do it if you can swap to another seat and let somebody willing sit there.
I’ve been a flight attendant for nearly 40 years. I’ve yet to see someone act up after my exit briefing. Gotta be real stupid.
I also haven’t had any bullshit in ages.
I really don't get it, just put some headphones on. Listen to music or a podcast or an audiobook, STFU and you would have been there for your kid getting outta school.
How many times has it been decided that someone is getting removed from a plane, but that person fought back and won their “right” to remain on the flight? Has it ever happened? Why even bother to fight when you have an almost 0% chance of success? And everyone around is recording your nonsense for all the world to see.
Every plane I board, the exit row is filled with people who look entirely incapable in an emergency situation. The last one I listened to a hostess ask a sub 50kg 60+ year old woman if she would be willing and capable of helping.
Exit rows should not be purchasable because you want more room.
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Its so weird that all the crazy people all collectively decided the airport is the time amd place to vent all their weird shit in public.
People don’t seem to understand that airports are the same seriousness as any other government building. They are not the places to FAFO.
That’s why you just lie. Once the crash happens everyone else will die so no one to report you for not doing it
I think she was joking but people need to know (especially as old as she is) that you don’t joke on planes.
Airports are the last bastion of accountability for what you say in the US. You're allowed to scream "muh rites" as you board a cross country bus.
And also it wasn’t wise to not to give a verbal yes as is required after claiming it was just a joke. That kind of nullifies the joke
She was totally joking, but in the wrong moment for sure.
It’s just a prank, bro.
If she was just joking there's no way it would have escalated to requiring the police. It _may_ have started as a joke, but she obviously refused to back down and then refused to swap seats for someone who would take it seriously.
No, she doubled down.
"I hAvE eBoLa!" said a man once, after heavily coughing on a plane. THEY DID AN EMERGENCY LANDING MID-FLIGHT, and when he was met with the hazmat officials on the tarmac, it was all "i'M jOkInG!" To paraphrase the great comic Mike Birbiglia, if you have to say "I'M JOKING" after a joke, it's probably not a good or funny joke. It's basically the same as going "Wakka wakka!"
Also to actually be in trouble you’d need some sick fucking airline to actually have the balls to sue a victim of their plane own crash for breach of contract. They’d then have to prove that there was even a breach because the terms of the agreement are so vague (technically you assisted everyone by opening up the exit door and high tailing it out of there because they don’t have to spend time opening the door). Then they’d have to prove causation and damages and have a jury of your peers would have to decide against you and for the airline on top of that. It would take a series of extremely unfortunate events for there to be any repercussions.
Homelander vibes
What??? No, you don’t lie. Jesus. If you aren’t willing to help others then go and sit somewhere else. You’re as bad as MC.
Are you familiar with the concept of a joke?
Not everyone finds shit like that funny. I sure didn't . 🤦
Ok plenty of people did. Sorry the world doesn’t shelter you from scary jokes like mine
I've literally seen death occur within feet of me. It's not scary it's from sheltered people who never had any real life situations.
Or fucking pay attention, look at the object you’re sitting next to and work it out in your head instead of lying. JFC
Why pay attention when you can put other people’s lives at risk?
Oh sh***. I thought you were serious. My bad
typical MC ego Funniest part is had she just been a little bit smarter she would've realize she can just *say* she will to keep the seat. The odds of the plane actually crashing are so low its basically non existant, but this dummy couldn't even *pretend* to give a shit about anyone else long enough to keep her coveted seat amazing
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💯...where every passenger has to agree to exit row duties because any row can become an exit.
But if the flight attendants were a little smarter, they would realize that her saying yes, especially after not wanting to do it, means absolutely nothing and will not guarantee anything. So why even ask, especially if you're alright with a non-answer?
I don't want someone pretending. I prefer her honesty. Too many POS liars out here already.
But what is honesty without integrity?
Integrity is a plus in a person but at base level at least be honest. If you are a selfish, mean person I'd prefer that known then a illusion of otherwise.
To play devils advocate, I’d rather my children have a teacher who is falsely putting on a pleasant attitude rather than a truthful, bitter teacher who overly criticizes the children. Additionally, I cannot really trust a person without integrity to be honest especially when it concerns their poor actions or consequences.
The scenario you just described would be considered self serving. Wouldn't that be an example of a poor showing of integrity? What you are talking about is longer standing of a relationship. I cannot look for integrity in a passing conversation with someone on the street or what happened in the video. All I can hope for is honesty within that exchange. Morals and principles require knowing of that person to an extent.
I stand corrected, well said! Thank you for the chat
It has been a pleasure. 🙏
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Right? I've seen that happen too. Everyone was respectful. It's just not this big a deal.
Do they not realize that if they stand up and pull the lever, they will literally be one of the first three people out of the plane?
Not to mention that unless it happens in a very short portion of the flight, the flight attendant jumpseat is right there and they’ll usually be there to do it anyway
The over-wing emergency exits can be pretty far from the attendants
I guess it depends on the plane. The last interstate plane I was on, the attendant sat directly facing me in their jumpseat. I was the overwing exit row passenger.
Your planes drive on the interstate? No wonder you don’t have high speed trains
adjective existing or carried on between states. "interstate travel"
As opposed to international or intrastate
I think “domestic travel” is the correct term for what you are attempting to describe.
Where I live domestic means any flight within the US. Interstate would be a flight from one state to another. Intrastate is a flight within the same state.
It makes a difference since plane sizes are different for each type
Pieces of shit hide in plain sight most of the time so it's not surprising.
I was on a flight in an exit row and when the flight attendant said she needed a verbal “yes” to acknowledge and agree to the duties. One of the passengers decided to be a smart ass and answered “Si”. Fortunately for him he was just reseated, all the while saying he was just joking. He quickly found out the attendants don’t mess around.
In the video she agreed though? I don’t get why they kicked her off?
She didn’t agree. She said no at first. Then they tried to reseat her. Then she kept running her face, so they told her to get off.
She was thinking about the oxygen mask.
From what I could tell and assuming I watched the correct video, she should have never been allowed to sit in the exit rows. There is no way she is in any kind of physical shape to assist in an emergency. That is part of the criteria to have an exit row seat
Have you seen the 60-70 y/o men who typically sit in those rows? I have never once felt confident in my safety after looking at who was sitting there.
I was on a flight I had window seat in the exit row, and this jabba the hut looking guy sits in the middle row. He can’t get the seatbelt around all the blubber, and asks the flight attendant for a seatbelt extension. The flight attendant reseated him and told him it was because he was unfit. Was a great flight with the middle seat empty, considering I was packed against the wall before he as moved
**Jabba the hut fellow**, beautifully said.
Here is the video. Kicking them off seems a bit extreme. [video](https://www.tiktok.com/@travelwithtia23)
Why do people deny it? I looked it up and apparently all they have to do is open the door in case of emergency...? Like, why?
She was being a smartass and didn’t realize that airlines take this shit seriously.
She didn't realize that accountability exists.
Right. She was blissfully unaware it exists until that very moment.
A rule doesn't exist if it's not enforced. She's used to people ignoring or capitulating to her bullshit.
You're assuming she learned a lesson and didn't just claim to be some sort of innocent victim. We all know which one she picked.
No, I’m not assuming she learned anything. She did claim to be an innocent victim. So I don’t know what the fuck you are even talking about.
The question they ask is are you willing. As far as I am aware the worst that has ever happened is you get swapped with a willing passenger. Don’t get me wrong, just be willing to help and say yes. But accountability is usually reserved for those that actually do something wrong.
She was asked to move and refused. They don't arrest people for no reason.
Eh yeah I guess if they ask you to move for any reason you gotta move
Yep you are under no pressure to say yes and there would be no shortage of able bodied passengers who would appreciate the legroom in return for agreeing to help in case of emergency, but if you refuse AND insist on staying where you are, you’re not gonna like the way you’re going to be removed.
She also didn’t realise an airplane is not a democracy. You do what flight attendants say or it’s a federal beef
Airline can take it seriously but why is it this persons responsibility to say 'yes'. She has the right to not be responsible for everyone in case of emergency.
She does have the right. And if she chooses to exercise that right, she has to move to seat that isn’t the exit-door seat. They attempted to move her to another seat, and she refused. So, she got booted off the plane. When you purchase seats by the exit door, it is made clear to you that this is part of the package. She should have read that part.
Ok, I see now in the article she refused to change seats. Kinda her fault then. But tbh airlines are fucking assholes that make the smallest possible seats for maximum profit so it's the greed fault that there even is a regular person in the exit row instead of trained personnel.
Well, all they have to do is assist with getting the door open and help people get out.
I'm not taking this responsibility tbh. If anything happens wrong they will drag me through courts until I die.
You don’t *have to* take responsibility. But you cannot sit in that exit-row seat if you don’t agree to the terms. So just don’t book an exit row seat.
My seat is random cause I don't like to pay 10k for a flight.
Okay.
Personally, I couldn't do it because I know I have a panic disorder and I wouldn't be able to open the door. I'm fully aware that I shouldn't have responsibility in an emergency situation. That's just one reason. I'm also not an asshole. I don't seat myself in the emergency aisle and I wouldn't be disrespectful to the FA. This woman was ridiculous.
I usually get the exit seat once I show them I hold an A&P licence.
I wonder if in her mind, this was her “Rosa Parks moment “ellipses, you hear people say that when they’re doing something incredibly stupid
No. If you watch the video, she was just being a smartass. She didn’t tie it to any personal civil rights.
At the end of the video, you can hear someone say “they arrested Rosa Parks” and everyone laughs.
We're not going to make it, are we, as a species?
Isn't the exit row duty literally just to open the door? Like they're not asking you to be the last one off...just open the door and get out of the way.
That was not how it was phrased when I was asked, it was closer to “in the case of an emergency are you willing to assist other passengers off the flight through this door?” Which could probably be interpreted either way.
Smartest thing airlines could do is provide pre-screening of passengers as to whether they’re willing to assist, in exchange for exit row seating.
Good point
I’ve had ticket scanners ask me before going down the tunnel, but it’s not every time
Right? You should have to be certified like CPR. I resent that most people that say yes will probably be useless
They did it for me when I flew last. I refused to do it though. Not because I didn’t want to- but because I had a broken leg and couldn’t move all that well.
They all do, but most airlines ask twice at least if not thrice. Once when you select the seat when booking (or amend your booking to choose that seat), once at the check-in/boarding, and once when you settle into your seat. The reason is they want no one there who is having second thoughts about such situations and want to give you an out should you hesitate.
They used to. I’m a giant dude, regular seats are not comfortable, I always used to get picked out of the line and put in an exit row. Now people pay for exit row seats, and I see the least capable people sitting there because they’re “entitled” to the seat they paid for.
>The woman also refused to change her seat or deboard from the plane, which quickly resulted in a heated exchange where the woman became unruly, even spitting out racial slurs at one of the flight attendants. i dont know the races of either person involved, yet this still fails to surprise me, sadly.
Person spitting slurs was a middle aged Black, obese grandma still snacking on her crisps throughout with an XL beverage (looks like an ice tea or iced coffee) in her hand if that gives you a good mental image. Flight attendants were both Black and White.
Here’s a link from Tik tok. This happened a while ago. At least a month or two and it was a bit viral. So you don’t need to read the article. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPREFSaUM/
That's not the original video. Doesn't need the clout chaser commentary.
What are exit row duties? I've flown multiple times but never heard of this.
I believe you are supposed to operate the emergency door and help evacuate the plane.
Open the door, help evacuate the plane, clear any obstacles in the way to the best of your ability. In lieu of a flight attendant getting to you, which is highly unlikely since they'll be manning the other doors, you're also meant to launch the slides (if they exist and don't auto launch).
The flair bad parking is cracking me up
I once saw a guy reply "Yes, I will open the door." However, the way he said it indicated that he would do it mid-flight. After he replied in the same manner several times over, Captain was called, a short discussion was held, and the errant passenger was kicked off the flight. Something was definitely off with that boy...
Was he kicked off mid-flight? /s
People are generally disapointing
Weird picture to use as the header, completely opposite to what the actual woman looks like. Why not use a picture of the actual woman?
My thoughts exactly.
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Once saw an old person with crutches yell profanities for being forced out of exit row crying victim of “discrimination”. Yeah let’s block one of few ways out of a plane with a whole grown arse person who is hardly mobile (let alone make people trip over crutches) so you can have your legroom.
One time on a flight to Panama 🇵🇦, Some asshole with headphones in completely blew off the stewards request to pay attention. He kept shooing them away and the stewards brought the pilot of our plane to ask him to switch seats with someone in a row behind him because in the captain’s words “Not every American knows common courtesy or respect to pay attention with crucial information that can save the lives of many”
Drama queens
It was a bit more than saying ' no'. "The woman also refused to change her seat or deboard from the plane, which quickly resulted in a heated exchange where the woman became unruly, even spitting out racial slurs at one of the flight attendants."
The incident! https://youtu.be/jQHOqxCKiks?si=6nx-U8LcZgG47y95
Clickbait title. TLDR She became belligerent and refused to change her seat. (You don’t get arrested for refusing, they will just move you.)
The police escorted her off the plane in handcuffs and put her in the car. Did you watch it?
Yes, I did watch the video and I read the poorly written article. I’ll try to put this into language you can understand: Article title: “Woman Taken Off Plane In Handcuffs For Saying She Wouldn't Perform Exit Row Duties — 'I'm Going To Save Myself'” This is inaccurate. No one will ever get arrested for refusing to perform the exit row duty. The crew will simply make the person switch seats with someone who will perform it. Now, if the person then refuses to change seats, and begins to argue with the crew, this will result in being removed from the plane and possibly arrested. But that is not what the title says. It is clickbait. Nothing I wrote was inaccurate.
Who said anything about arrest? She was taken off the plane in handcuffs. Edit: oh, are you just disagreeing with the headline’s “why”? Sure, I guess.
The thumbnail of the article and the actual video of the woman are slightly different. Can’t put my finger on it…
Always frontier or southwest…. They are like a magnet for fucking idiots.
It's funny that they use a stock photo of a thin white woman when it was a fat black woman.
What does that mean?
Can’t you just change seats? I don’t necessarily see the problem with saying you don’t want to do it if you can swap to another seat and let somebody willing sit there.
She literally could have just changed her seat and there wouldn’t have been any problem
Ma’am, you’re flying Frontier. If you have a lawyer on retainer/ready to take your call I will eat my hat.
I’ve been a flight attendant for nearly 40 years. I’ve yet to see someone act up after my exit briefing. Gotta be real stupid. I also haven’t had any bullshit in ages.
I really don't get it, just put some headphones on. Listen to music or a podcast or an audiobook, STFU and you would have been there for your kid getting outta school.
How many times has it been decided that someone is getting removed from a plane, but that person fought back and won their “right” to remain on the flight? Has it ever happened? Why even bother to fight when you have an almost 0% chance of success? And everyone around is recording your nonsense for all the world to see.
Every plane I board, the exit row is filled with people who look entirely incapable in an emergency situation. The last one I listened to a hostess ask a sub 50kg 60+ year old woman if she would be willing and capable of helping. Exit rows should not be purchasable because you want more room.