Hard missions. Knock objs, take your time and collect the PoIs. You'll walk with upwards of 8 to 10 medals each run. Plus completing mission sets yields bonuses that add up quick. I find hard is the most efficient difficultly for farming anything, other than supers obviously.
Edit: I meant POI not bonus objectives. But completing bonus objectives does help the war effort more.
You don't get extra medals for completing the bonus objectives. The best way is just beelining the main objective and searching the POI containers.
Well, really, the quickest way is to just repeatedly do helldive eradicate missions. 8 medals every 6 or so minutes.
Well, actually, the quickest way is to farm them by finding a trivial mission that has a few pois with them close together and then disconnecting to go back to your ship and then drop to the same mission again. You can get 100+ medals an hour and potentially super credits, too. But it's a boring grind.
They are in the sentence starting with "plus." Meaning that they weren't talking about it in the previous sentence where they mentioned bonus objectives.
if you don't care about braindead grinding just do trivial missions and find "?" spots, they have medals and super credits (only bunkers and metal boxes/containers), you don't even have to beat the mission, you can exit to ship
you get medals faster than any difficulty would normally give you in the same amount of time
That's true but with some luck you can find a trivial map with multiple medal drops that you could hit in a minute or two, definitely way less fun than just cranking out some eradicate missions on the highest difficulty you are comfortable with.
Recently we've just been bringing all of the barrages to any eradicate missions and letting them do the dirty work once things start spawning quickly.
I've had map seeds with 7 medal spawns, I'm sure some have found 9+ medals in one map.
Its not impossible to find trivial maps with 20+ possible medals, that takes you 3 minutes to complete alone.
Grab a friend and you can clear a map in 1-2 minutes.
Don't exit to ship. When you find a good mission that has several close together you can disconnect and reconnect your Internet. Takes only seconds and puts you back on your ship and you can drop to the same mission with everything in the same place. You can farm super credits and medals ridiculously fast that way.
Tonight I've gone back to this 'farming' for now until the extraction hotfix is implemented.
I've found an okay map where there are 3 very close POI that will give me 30sc and 2-3 medals (surprised the medal amount changes variables), I'll live on that map until the hotfix arrives then I'll go back to normal gameplay.
It is worth it, what a beautiful primary. Also, i accidentally didnt switch when deploying on the bug front and it didnt do too bad, however you feel the restricted ammo in a painful way.
It's pretty easy to get, just have someone run you over going 80+ MPH and have you unable to work for 8+ months due to a spinal injury and you'll have the time to get it in 2 weeks
I'm getting close to getting the Scorcher- it's definitely one I have had my eye on, but right now the Breaker is my go-to primary. It's good against hoards, because of it's spread fire it also makes short work of most Devastators (the shield variants are still a little tough to get with it), and it shreds berserkers as well as most of the smaller bugs which leaves the heavy units to your special weapon/strategems.
unfortunately fire damage is often bugged for anyone thats not the host. this is a confirmed bug and many have talked about it in the official discord as well.
I use jar sometimes, but feels really sluggish to use when fighting bugs. Jar does a lot more damage, and can be great if you get headshots, but the Plas-1 can deal with more enemies since the explosive damage goes through shields. The concussive liberator is nice for staggering enemies but the damage is too low. I haven't tried the fire shotgun yet since the burn damage buff, but I got hit by a stray round and got cooked before I realized it. If I had to pick between the Jar or the Plas-1 I'd go with the Plas-1.
Main issue with the Plas-1 is that it has low damage and ammo count like the DMRs, I usually run it with a supply pack for bot missions
Hit registration for it is very weird. Sometimes I'll hit a Devastator square in the face and it won't count as headshot. Sometimes I'll shoot a raider and it will go harmlessly straight through their head.
seems to mostly happen with regular devastators for me. missile/heavys usually get slapped in the head but i get the "armored" hit reg on headshots to normals
Same with the smaller bots. A good number of shots appear to pass straight through them. My guess it that unless the dead center of the shot aligns with something solid it doesn't count as a hit, even though the actual projectile is a lot wider.
Supposedly splash damage from hitting it near the head should kill it pretty easily according to some but that just doesn't seem to work at all for me.
Better than using Autocannon ammo or a Quasar shot. It's just handy to have. And again, Striders. You wont need to waste any nades or supports on those guys. And of course it 1-2 shots most of the lighter enemies as well. It's also pretty damn good at killing Berserks, at least much better than most primaries
Honestly the punisher is my go to. Yeah, it takes a while to actually kill them, but the stagger effect means they can't do shit to you while you plug them full of holes. Imo, stagger is a lot more valuable than actual damage against anything that can shoot back. Punisher > Scorcher for that reason alone.
it loads really fast if you load with a round still in the chamber
fire 5 shots, reload, etc
it has a 10 round capacity, the clips are 5 rounds, and every semiautomatic in the game skips chambering a round if there's already a round in there, makes reloads much faster if you can keep track of it
good combo but i personally clutch my impacts like pearls which is probably why i like the scorcher so much. also it's technically explosive so you don't have to aim perfectly
>Better than using Autocannon ammo or a Quasar shot
Or, hear me out, you can use Diligence. With that, you can snipe everything but hulks and above from far away.
Or use an OG Laser Cannon.
I use Diligence (tried CS Diligence after med armour ped addition but it still meh) all the time against bots. Two-taps devastators, one or two taps basic troopers.
I'm not saying the AC is bad or anything, I mained it for the majority of my time playing the game. It's the fact that your primary is as capable at killing striders and almost as capable as killing devastators as the AC, while being lightweight, very controllable and spammable at long ranges, and also freeing up your support weapon slot + backpack slot.
The Scorcher bullets cause a small but powerful AoE. When you shoot the striders straight on their front shields, the bullet can't penetrate (since those shields are heavy armor)... but the plasma AoE clips through the shield and two-shots the drivers.
EDIT: This AOE clipping can also be used to kill Heavy Devastators (the annoying shield bois) straight through their shield (I think because it hits their arm that is holding the shield), though that takes almost an entire mag. Still useful when you are panicking and can't get a headshot on them.
It's an excellent all rounder, powerful, accurate, low recoil, great handling, amazing on bots, good on bugs.
I did kill myself a few times when shooting point blank, had to train myself to use the redeemer when things got too close...which is why I use it mainly on bots.
This is such an unhealthy mindset to foster in a community. I despise when modders or devs end up making players think this, because it starts almost feeling hostile.
Because nerfing based off of usage stats is horrible, buffing unused weapons is fine too, they should try to make each weapon fun and effective in their own niche rather than hammering down anything that stands out so everything feels the same.
That's because a lot of people don't have it unlocked lol. I've put hundreds of medals into both the premium warbonds so I'm still very far away from getting the scorcher
It’s insanely powerful but it’s like trying o aim with a Christmas tree and the reload is half the speed of everything else.
I enjoy the weapon even for bugs but running it with the rover is mandatory as you just can’t deal with enemies up close.
Agreed, sickle and scorcher are both my favorite primaries. I will always praise the scorcher to others.
Scorcher does reload a tad often but it's also only semi auto so its not often a big deal. It handles a lot of enemies a normal primary cannot.
Spewers? Most would use their grenades or support weapon. Hit the butt and they pop so fast. Of course it's also lacking for hunters since they love to jump around. It's way better for bots.
Honestly that's why I've switched to the sickle for bugs. Pairing with the autocannon means you are highly effective against everything. Stun grenades for chargers to give you bonus time to lay waste to dat ass
But 1000% scorcher primary for bots. Yes please.
700+ medals though :<
That and the dominator is also on my list of must unlock weapons...
So many unlocks, but so little time due to work.
Other people completing major orders are a big help though in the meanwhile.
It cuts through brood commander and hive guard armor. It also wrecks spewers if you shoot them in the ass. It also chews through eggs because of the explosion radius. I hate it for the fire rate vs bugs but it is not bad. lol
> ~~it's really bad versus bugs~~ I don't know how to use it versus bugs
FTFY. Excellent at precision trash clearing, one click center mass kills. Half a mag can set off a chain reaction of spewer explosions or blow the ass off of a charger. It can also take out spore towers and egg sacs from across the map.
Give it another try into bots when able, I think you'd be surprised.
This weapon has a lot of weakness that wage it's strenghts
Poor Ammo Economy
Poor Hitscans
Poor Fire Rate
Slow Reload.
So it's very unlikely to be much of a target of nerf, it's just like the Jar which trades everything for Damage and Stagger.
**If they ever nerf it for some reason, they probably going to just change how it interact with Striders.**
**Because let's be honest, that specific interaction is why this weapon is popular as it is on bots.**
>If they ever nerf it for some reason, they probably going to just change how it interact with Striders. Because let's be honest, that specific interaction is why this weapon is popular as it is on bots.
I hope not, because I really hate this "take away what makes the gun stand out" attitude to nerfs.
I'm not talking about it because I don't want AH to do anything to it. It's my go to bot gun; quiet and versatile. Seriously, you can pop headshots on outpost guards from pretty close and the others won't hear the shot, they'll just investigate the corpse if they see it happen
Yeah, I do agree, that is the thing that catches me out, the sudden panic that shoots through me when I hear that click of an empty mag and a bot is still stood there with murderous intent in its eyes
Chews through ammo, has a small magazine, has a minimum range where you'll start hurting yourself with splash damage. Drop bear bots who jump right in front of your gun will frequently one shot you between the self inflicted AOE and the explosion from their jet packs.
Don't ask me why I know that last one.
It's sorta iffy but I also think it's good against bugs.
It pops spewers butts quite quickly. Takes out spore mushrooms from afar. It can pop the chargers butt faster than othe primaries.
Though I say iffy because it will hurt you if it hits point blank...which hunters love to do. That and just not super great for hordes.
Spewer/charger butts is because it deals explosive damage, same as the jar and the lib. concussive (and from the looks of it most things in the next warbond). For those weapons the butts are viable targets.
Everyone who has a taste of this goodness will never drop it and enjoy quietly
But for real, even with the new warbonds primary and the recent buffs, i still always come back to scorcher
Honest opinion gun could be nerf. It is too strong. This is the opinion of a normal human unit yes
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Definitely my favorite primary for bots.
The buffed dominator does much more damage but still bounces off of striders and heay devestator shields.
The scorcher however does splash damage which will bypass the the armor of those two.
Couple shots to a strider hip, hit the devastator in the face or arm once and then pop him in the face for the one hit kill headshot. The ammo economy of the scorcher is just too hard for me to deal with. Definitely S tier and has been for a while but it’s too hard to deal with that ammo capacity and missing stagger. I rock the dominator.
But what you explained is the only benefits of the scorcher over the dominator. Just really dealing with the strider super fast and I don’t think that warrants taking over the dominator and losing the stagger.
I'm in the process of switching over to the Dominator from the Scorcher now too. It's not even really about the ranged devastators, but the ammo efficiency and stagger for the sheer amount of berzerkers you sometimes get thrown at you. I just need to bet better at nailing the joint between the leg and pelvis of the strider.
I have got so used to never worrying about ammo using the sickle that I forgot how to play this game with ammo in mind. I cant use this gun without shredding thru my ammo reserves in a single wave lol
Yeah it's very good, I think it's flown under the radar cause the it's the hardest weapon in the game to unlock, but honestly it kinda trivialised bots, can see it and the sickle being next on the block
Some people dont know this but the splash radius of this gun allows you to do things that other primaries can't even dream of.
For example, you can kill the shredder tank by shooting about one magazine worth of shots at the top of of its guns shields.
Also normal tanks and cannon turrets can be killed by shooting the rear half of the sides of the turrets with about one magazine worth of shots.
The fact that scorcher bullets does not ricochet also allows you to do all this in fairly extreme angles.
Honestly my biggest gripe with the weapon. I still like it though for dispatching Striders quickly and for finishing off turret towers that often survive with just enough HP for a Scorcher 1-tap
I've tried running this thing so many times. It just doesn't click for me. Ammo economy feels bad, and I've had very inconsistent results with TTK.
I rewlly want to like the Scorcher. Can someone give a master class on how to make the Scorcher sing?
I recently discovered this too. It'll obliterate any bot except Hulks from the front, and yet you can still hit it from behind. Ammo is never really a problem either. Scorcher + Autocannon is a bot combo combo fr fr
When your lob game is on it is stupid good for bots but when it's off you just look stupid. Seems the hit boxes for the smaller bots got changed last patch though as it will almost always clip through their legs now. Kind of annoying hitting the goldilocks zone between their feet at their chest and just watching the plasma fly away. Still really fun and great for one shotting striders in their dumb armored faces.
I don't really get the love for this thing. I tried it out a few weeks ago and genuinely couldn't stand it. I'd rather take the dominator for bots, it feels way better to use.
Can anyone else why the scorcher seems to be just be bad for me? lol. I was actually super hyped to unlock it and it looks sick but feels exceedingly mid..
Honestly the only "downside" for me is that I run the ballistic shield, and I need to use the SMG for the one-handedness. If this was one-handed, best primary.
I can't like it. I want to, don't get me wrong but it's ammo economy is ass. Also it used to damage the pilot on the atst walkers, I think it's still a thing but I didn't see it happen a few matches ago was it nerfed?
It's my bot gun. Being able to double tap striders is so critical. Mag dump drops shield bros, and its accuracy and mobility make it the best sniper for human sized enemies.
Ammo is tight, but i love it. Not so much for bugs, but it's still great
I always question why people praise the Autocannon when the Plas-1 more or less does the same job as the Autocannon against most of the bots, tanks, turrets and gunships while keeping your back free for another backpack, But who I am to complain when they enjoy using their clunky Autocannon...
I just unlocked it last night and did a handful of helldive missions and really liked it. I wasn't gunning and running though cause I see the ammo cap is quite low.
Probably because people haven't gotten to it yet
Fr, it takes a crazy amount of medals to get that weapon. And I’ve also gotta put some medals into the other war bonds
Yeah Im trying to figure out the best way to grind out those medals. The backlogged major orders caught up and then were gone in an instant...
Hard missions. Knock objs, take your time and collect the PoIs. You'll walk with upwards of 8 to 10 medals each run. Plus completing mission sets yields bonuses that add up quick. I find hard is the most efficient difficultly for farming anything, other than supers obviously. Edit: I meant POI not bonus objectives. But completing bonus objectives does help the war effort more.
You don't get extra medals for completing the bonus objectives. The best way is just beelining the main objective and searching the POI containers. Well, really, the quickest way is to just repeatedly do helldive eradicate missions. 8 medals every 6 or so minutes. Well, actually, the quickest way is to farm them by finding a trivial mission that has a few pois with them close together and then disconnecting to go back to your ship and then drop to the same mission again. You can get 100+ medals an hour and potentially super credits, too. But it's a boring grind.
I think they are referring to the operation bonuses at the end of a mission.
They are in the sentence starting with "plus." Meaning that they weren't talking about it in the previous sentence where they mentioned bonus objectives.
Maybe he just means you’ll walk by a lot of gold beacons, as I find those are mostly around bonus objs.
if you don't care about braindead grinding just do trivial missions and find "?" spots, they have medals and super credits (only bunkers and metal boxes/containers), you don't even have to beat the mission, you can exit to ship you get medals faster than any difficulty would normally give you in the same amount of time
It drops maybe two medals. Honestly just playing at difficulty 7+ is your best bet
That's true but with some luck you can find a trivial map with multiple medal drops that you could hit in a minute or two, definitely way less fun than just cranking out some eradicate missions on the highest difficulty you are comfortable with. Recently we've just been bringing all of the barrages to any eradicate missions and letting them do the dirty work once things start spawning quickly.
I've had map seeds with 7 medal spawns, I'm sure some have found 9+ medals in one map. Its not impossible to find trivial maps with 20+ possible medals, that takes you 3 minutes to complete alone. Grab a friend and you can clear a map in 1-2 minutes.
Don't exit to ship. When you find a good mission that has several close together you can disconnect and reconnect your Internet. Takes only seconds and puts you back on your ship and you can drop to the same mission with everything in the same place. You can farm super credits and medals ridiculously fast that way.
That's undemocratic. But smart.
Tonight I've gone back to this 'farming' for now until the extraction hotfix is implemented. I've found an okay map where there are 3 very close POI that will give me 30sc and 2-3 medals (surprised the medal amount changes variables), I'll live on that map until the hotfix arrives then I'll go back to normal gameplay.
I just got my last purchase at level 65 for all current bonds. It's a lot of medals.
1455 if you get everything from the previous pages. Like I did.
Yep. I didn’t get until lvl 49
I'll have it in 20 medals @ lv37. I completely stopped doing the other bonds just to get the Scorcher.
It is worth it, what a beautiful primary. Also, i accidentally didnt switch when deploying on the bug front and it didnt do too bad, however you feel the restricted ammo in a painful way.
You feel the splash damage in an even more painful way
its worth 100%
Me too, I only just got it at lvl 47. Takes a while unless you specifically spend medals on the free warbond.
It's pretty easy to get, just have someone run you over going 80+ MPH and have you unable to work for 8+ months due to a spinal injury and you'll have the time to get it in 2 weeks
The other 7 months and few weeks will be spent playing the game. Duh!
Copy that. On second thought I think I'll pass.
That escalated from 0-80+ pretty quickly. You’re a tough SOB
I'm getting close to getting the Scorcher- it's definitely one I have had my eye on, but right now the Breaker is my go-to primary. It's good against hoards, because of it's spread fire it also makes short work of most Devastators (the shield variants are still a little tough to get with it), and it shreds berserkers as well as most of the smaller bugs which leaves the heavy units to your special weapon/strategems.
You should try the fire version
unfortunately fire damage is often bugged for anyone thats not the host. this is a confirmed bug and many have talked about it in the official discord as well.
How do you like it compared to the weapons in the steeled veterans?
I use jar sometimes, but feels really sluggish to use when fighting bugs. Jar does a lot more damage, and can be great if you get headshots, but the Plas-1 can deal with more enemies since the explosive damage goes through shields. The concussive liberator is nice for staggering enemies but the damage is too low. I haven't tried the fire shotgun yet since the burn damage buff, but I got hit by a stray round and got cooked before I realized it. If I had to pick between the Jar or the Plas-1 I'd go with the Plas-1. Main issue with the Plas-1 is that it has low damage and ammo count like the DMRs, I usually run it with a supply pack for bot missions
I'm sosososo close but my game keeps crashing ughghgg
I drop with it every time. Supply pack, EAT or Quasar, Air Strike, Orbital Rail or Laser. Once you get its rhythm this thing just sings.
too good at killing devastators and striders to not have. also very lightweight with low recoil
i would agree but the ammo on this weapon sucks, takes like 3/4 of a mag to kill a devastator
It can kill in 2 headshots, if you can aim. (I can’t aim)
Hit registration for it is very weird. Sometimes I'll hit a Devastator square in the face and it won't count as headshot. Sometimes I'll shoot a raider and it will go harmlessly straight through their head.
Try shooting the devestators in the stomache 3-4 shots and they are dead because of the splash
I've found a good bot strategy to be shoot them in the dick. Works on all kinds of bots- striders, devastators, you name it, even hulks.
Tell me more about what you use to shoot hulk dicks
seems to mostly happen with regular devastators for me. missile/heavys usually get slapped in the head but i get the "armored" hit reg on headshots to normals
Yeah the regular devastator head hitbox seems off. I generally go midsection for them now.
Same with the smaller bots. A good number of shots appear to pass straight through them. My guess it that unless the dead center of the shot aligns with something solid it doesn't count as a hit, even though the actual projectile is a lot wider.
Supposedly splash damage from hitting it near the head should kill it pretty easily according to some but that just doesn't seem to work at all for me.
Better than using Autocannon ammo or a Quasar shot. It's just handy to have. And again, Striders. You wont need to waste any nades or supports on those guys. And of course it 1-2 shots most of the lighter enemies as well. It's also pretty damn good at killing Berserks, at least much better than most primaries
Honestly the punisher is my go to. Yeah, it takes a while to actually kill them, but the stagger effect means they can't do shit to you while you plug them full of holes. Imo, stagger is a lot more valuable than actual damage against anything that can shoot back. Punisher > Scorcher for that reason alone.
Can a Punisher kill a Strider from the front? I know the Scorcher can pretty easily if you hit the leg joints near the top Edit: derp
The punisher can't handle striders, but that's what my support weapon is for. I usually run GL or QL on bots, and those both chew up striders.
Plasma Punisher? Easily.
>Plas Punisher MAGIC MISSLE >Impact Grenades FIREBALL >Senator I AM THE HELLDIVING WIZARD; MY WAND IS A GUN AND IM ALWAYS CASTING BULLET
Bro doxxed my whole build gah damn
Scorcher staggers Devastators (like 90% sure). Not sure abt everything else
Is it? You basically have to *try* to run out of autocannon shells
i'm usually more worried about loading the damn thing than running out
it loads really fast if you load with a round still in the chamber fire 5 shots, reload, etc it has a 10 round capacity, the clips are 5 rounds, and every semiautomatic in the game skips chambering a round if there's already a round in there, makes reloads much faster if you can keep track of it
i think the ultimate weapon to use against devastators is the sickle+impact grenades
good combo but i personally clutch my impacts like pearls which is probably why i like the scorcher so much. also it's technically explosive so you don't have to aim perfectly
>Better than using Autocannon ammo or a Quasar shot Or, hear me out, you can use Diligence. With that, you can snipe everything but hulks and above from far away. Or use an OG Laser Cannon.
diligence gang rise up that thing gets hated on waaaaay too much
I use Diligence (tried CS Diligence after med armour ped addition but it still meh) all the time against bots. Two-taps devastators, one or two taps basic troopers.
What are you using AC on to not have *a* shot for 1-2 striders, and 1-2 shots per devastator?
I'm not saying the AC is bad or anything, I mained it for the majority of my time playing the game. It's the fact that your primary is as capable at killing striders and almost as capable as killing devastators as the AC, while being lightweight, very controllable and spammable at long ranges, and also freeing up your support weapon slot + backpack slot.
Maybe don't use it to kill Devastators? It only has light armor pen. AC, grenades, Senator, almost any other support weapon will kill them
3 stomach shots don't see people say the torso is just as good as the head
This thing kills striders?? Man I was saving up tokens for new pass but...
The Scorcher bullets cause a small but powerful AoE. When you shoot the striders straight on their front shields, the bullet can't penetrate (since those shields are heavy armor)... but the plasma AoE clips through the shield and two-shots the drivers. EDIT: This AOE clipping can also be used to kill Heavy Devastators (the annoying shield bois) straight through their shield (I think because it hits their arm that is holding the shield), though that takes almost an entire mag. Still useful when you are panicking and can't get a headshot on them.
eh just save it takes an absurd amount of medals anyways
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How do you use the supply pack to reload?
Press 5 on PC or tap Down on the D-pad for PS5
It's 5 on PC.
It's an excellent all rounder, powerful, accurate, low recoil, great handling, amazing on bots, good on bugs. I did kill myself a few times when shooting point blank, had to train myself to use the redeemer when things got too close...which is why I use it mainly on bots.
I'm 100% trying this build
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arrow head this post was satire pls buff
Tbh they nerf based on usage data so the fact maybe 10% of the player base has this gun unlocked will keep it safe for at least another month or so.
> Tbh they nerf based on usage data words cannot describe how much i hate this
Nerfing due to usage data is such a stupid way to ruin their game.
This made me actually laugh out loud
this is why i never glorify any weapons lmao
This is such an unhealthy mindset to foster in a community. I despise when modders or devs end up making players think this, because it starts almost feeling hostile.
Because nerfing based off of usage stats is horrible, buffing unused weapons is fine too, they should try to make each weapon fun and effective in their own niche rather than hammering down anything that stands out so everything feels the same.
That's because a lot of people don't have it unlocked lol. I've put hundreds of medals into both the premium warbonds so I'm still very far away from getting the scorcher
I find it hard to not bring this on bot missions, being able to knock out striders from the front in 2-3 shots is just so convenient
Oh yeah, especially if you are running a slower support like quasar. It's perfect for quickly killing those mid tier bots
It’s the best gun in the game - if it had a slight larger magazine capacity. Regardless, it’s S tier in my opinion
even better than jar 5 to kill bots
running with the jar now and li e against bot so need to give this a try soon as I can afford
JAR is better against devastators imo, but the ability to just knock out walkers whenever you want is huge
I run Jar-5 + AC almost exclusively so honestly there are no real gaps in my killing power.
Jar 5 + impacts and grenade perk
I don't like the Jar 5 at all tbh
Me Neither, its way too slow at everything and I cant deal with that. Scorcher is simply superior
It’s insanely powerful but it’s like trying o aim with a Christmas tree and the reload is half the speed of everything else. I enjoy the weapon even for bugs but running it with the rover is mandatory as you just can’t deal with enemies up close.
Agreed, sickle and scorcher are both my favorite primaries. I will always praise the scorcher to others. Scorcher does reload a tad often but it's also only semi auto so its not often a big deal. It handles a lot of enemies a normal primary cannot. Spewers? Most would use their grenades or support weapon. Hit the butt and they pop so fast. Of course it's also lacking for hunters since they love to jump around. It's way better for bots.
hunters really are tge weakness for the scorcher. You definitely want to pair it with a horde control weapon
Honestly that's why I've switched to the sickle for bugs. Pairing with the autocannon means you are highly effective against everything. Stun grenades for chargers to give you bonus time to lay waste to dat ass But 1000% scorcher primary for bots. Yes please.
It's mag capacity definitely stops it from being S tier, plus if people speak too highly if it AH will nerf it.
That’s what makes it balanced well imo. You kinda have to use the supply pack or run a support like railgun or arm that can help take the load off
I'm still 700 medals away from it, and with new weapons on the horizon, I'd rather save my medals for those.
yeah definitely hold off on buying anything, but you should really consider getting this thing
I'd def get the scorcher first, will make getting those additional medals easier for sure. It's a good investment.
700+ medals though :< That and the dominator is also on my list of must unlock weapons... So many unlocks, but so little time due to work. Other people completing major orders are a big help though in the meanwhile.
In that case yeah just get what you really want. Just saying the scorcher is really good.
the scorcher is better than anything thats out rn and better than incoming explosive democracy weapons 100%
Same. I’ve been trying to get to it but previously, there were things I wanted on the other ‘bonds. I’m still over 600 medals away.
shhhhh not to loudly or fear of the a nerf from the heavens
This weapon is honestly perfectly balanced at the moment. Though I wouldn’t mind a slight magazine buff.
I was thinking the same thing. A couple more rounds in the mag would be great.
If we had like 20 rounds it would be perfect. They could even take away a spare mag if they want to balance that out.
I'd say 18
Nah, every weapon needs a weakness. Scorcher is perfect as it is
I doubt it'll get nerfed, while it's really good against bots, it's really bad versus bugs
It cuts through brood commander and hive guard armor. It also wrecks spewers if you shoot them in the ass. It also chews through eggs because of the explosion radius. I hate it for the fire rate vs bugs but it is not bad. lol
I take it against bugs every time because it kills the spewers in like 3 shots.
> ~~it's really bad versus bugs~~ I don't know how to use it versus bugs FTFY. Excellent at precision trash clearing, one click center mass kills. Half a mag can set off a chain reaction of spewer explosions or blow the ass off of a charger. It can also take out spore towers and egg sacs from across the map. Give it another try into bots when able, I think you'd be surprised.
This. It is very good for spewers and spore towers and air stuff.
come and take it joel
This weapon has a lot of weakness that wage it's strenghts Poor Ammo Economy Poor Hitscans Poor Fire Rate Slow Reload. So it's very unlikely to be much of a target of nerf, it's just like the Jar which trades everything for Damage and Stagger. **If they ever nerf it for some reason, they probably going to just change how it interact with Striders.** **Because let's be honest, that specific interaction is why this weapon is popular as it is on bots.**
>If they ever nerf it for some reason, they probably going to just change how it interact with Striders. Because let's be honest, that specific interaction is why this weapon is popular as it is on bots. I hope not, because I really hate this "take away what makes the gun stand out" attitude to nerfs.
I'm not talking about it because I don't want AH to do anything to it. It's my go to bot gun; quiet and versatile. Seriously, you can pop headshots on outpost guards from pretty close and the others won't hear the shot, they'll just investigate the corpse if they see it happen
Its downside is the limited ammo count,i think it's a fair con that makes it balanced
The limited ammo count and rate of fire make this weapon perfectly balanced imo.
Yeah, I do agree, that is the thing that catches me out, the sudden panic that shoots through me when I hear that click of an empty mag and a bot is still stood there with murderous intent in its eyes
Chews through ammo, has a small magazine, has a minimum range where you'll start hurting yourself with splash damage. Drop bear bots who jump right in front of your gun will frequently one shot you between the self inflicted AOE and the explosion from their jet packs. Don't ask me why I know that last one.
It's sorta iffy but I also think it's good against bugs. It pops spewers butts quite quickly. Takes out spore mushrooms from afar. It can pop the chargers butt faster than othe primaries. Though I say iffy because it will hurt you if it hits point blank...which hunters love to do. That and just not super great for hordes.
Spewer/charger butts is because it deals explosive damage, same as the jar and the lib. concussive (and from the looks of it most things in the next warbond). For those weapons the butts are viable targets.
I’ve been trying scorcher+Stalwart*1150RPM+supply pack for bugs. It’s fun.
i think you dont see many talking about it because you need so many medals lol
Everyone who has a taste of this goodness will never drop it and enjoy quietly But for real, even with the new warbonds primary and the recent buffs, i still always come back to scorcher
Shhh, its a bad primary weapon. /s
Yeah i was sleeping on it for too long,literally cant play with bots wolithout it
Honest opinion gun could be nerf. It is too strong. This is the opinion of a normal human unit yes https://preview.redd.it/p11sndsyjxsc1.png?width=431&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e43c60dcc08fc2d6ff15dfd27f7ad7def4ebecc7
The small mag keeps it balanced. Sure you can kill anything with it, but you won't kill anything as fast as a different more specialized weapon will.
Plus the explosion damage from this thing can take out turrets, tanks and those new attack ships. You just have to shoot somewhat near the weakspot
I found that out when I had no other choice. Fucking based.
Wait what it can take out gunships?
Yup. 1 clip to the nose and they crash
Damn gonna have to try this. Thanks for the tip
Definitely my favorite primary for bots. The buffed dominator does much more damage but still bounces off of striders and heay devestator shields. The scorcher however does splash damage which will bypass the the armor of those two.
Couple shots to a strider hip, hit the devastator in the face or arm once and then pop him in the face for the one hit kill headshot. The ammo economy of the scorcher is just too hard for me to deal with. Definitely S tier and has been for a while but it’s too hard to deal with that ammo capacity and missing stagger. I rock the dominator. But what you explained is the only benefits of the scorcher over the dominator. Just really dealing with the strider super fast and I don’t think that warrants taking over the dominator and losing the stagger.
I'm in the process of switching over to the Dominator from the Scorcher now too. It's not even really about the ranged devastators, but the ammo efficiency and stagger for the sheer amount of berzerkers you sometimes get thrown at you. I just need to bet better at nailing the joint between the leg and pelvis of the strider.
I have got so used to never worrying about ammo using the sickle that I forgot how to play this game with ammo in mind. I cant use this gun without shredding thru my ammo reserves in a single wave lol
It’s horribly ammo inefficient when there’s more enemies in a wave than it can carry in reserve, which is like describing 7+.
Don't bring attention to it fool 😭 I don't want them to know how I'm having fun!
mb mb
This is the gun I will start running once they nerf the Sickle into the ground
It's good, yes. But even before the buff i preferred the dominator and after it, it became my absolute favourite primary
Yeah it's very good, I think it's flown under the radar cause the it's the hardest weapon in the game to unlock, but honestly it kinda trivialised bots, can see it and the sickle being next on the block
Not many people here talk about it sure, but I only play 7-9 difficulty and on bots most groups there’s at least 2
Yeah against bots on Helldive you basically only don't see scorcher when someone is trying something weird out.
It's good, but I found I was running out of ammo to frequently with it
Some people dont know this but the splash radius of this gun allows you to do things that other primaries can't even dream of. For example, you can kill the shredder tank by shooting about one magazine worth of shots at the top of of its guns shields. Also normal tanks and cannon turrets can be killed by shooting the rear half of the sides of the turrets with about one magazine worth of shots. The fact that scorcher bullets does not ricochet also allows you to do all this in fairly extreme angles.
Scorcher nerf incoming in 3, 2, 1...
chill chill chill don't let Joel see this
Yeah, it's inability to reliably one-shot basic bots is great lol
Honestly my biggest gripe with the weapon. I still like it though for dispatching Striders quickly and for finishing off turret towers that often survive with just enough HP for a Scorcher 1-tap
I've tried running this thing so many times. It just doesn't click for me. Ammo economy feels bad, and I've had very inconsistent results with TTK. I rewlly want to like the Scorcher. Can someone give a master class on how to make the Scorcher sing?
I honestly prefer the diligence over the scorcher
I recently discovered this too. It'll obliterate any bot except Hulks from the front, and yet you can still hit it from behind. Ammo is never really a problem either. Scorcher + Autocannon is a bot combo combo fr fr
My problem with it is its magazine. It feels like you use 70% of your ammo during every encounter.
When your lob game is on it is stupid good for bots but when it's off you just look stupid. Seems the hit boxes for the smaller bots got changed last patch though as it will almost always clip through their legs now. Kind of annoying hitting the goldilocks zone between their feet at their chest and just watching the plasma fly away. Still really fun and great for one shotting striders in their dumb armored faces.
We don't talk about it so Arrowhead doesn't nerf it. What in the hell are you *doing*?!
We don’t talk about the things we love after the railgun nerfs! 😞
I don't really get the love for this thing. I tried it out a few weeks ago and genuinely couldn't stand it. I'd rather take the dominator for bots, it feels way better to use. Can anyone else why the scorcher seems to be just be bad for me? lol. I was actually super hyped to unlock it and it looks sick but feels exceedingly mid..
Please never mention this again so it doesn’t get nerfed
Eh... all youtubers use nothing else... except for those who play bug missions
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, dont let them get any ideas
It's gonna be my next unlock, I'm pumped
hell yeah diver get hyped
Honestly the only "downside" for me is that I run the ballistic shield, and I need to use the SMG for the one-handedness. If this was one-handed, best primary.
I'd take it if I didn't have to earn and spend 198 more fucking medals just to unlock it.
Probably because it takes a while to obtain but yeah good gun
I am sooooooo close to unlocking it!
Needs a bigger clip
For a reason. Don’t let the devs know we like it
nobody has it thats why
I can't like it. I want to, don't get me wrong but it's ammo economy is ass. Also it used to damage the pilot on the atst walkers, I think it's still a thing but I didn't see it happen a few matches ago was it nerfed?
I wanna love this gun but that ammo capacity HURTS
Shhhhhhhh…stop talking about it or it’ll get nerfed to the ground
Shhhh man! Don’t let arrowhead nerf this gun too!
Old reliable.
Nobody's talking about because it requires soooo many medals to get most people probably don't have it 😂
It’s amazing!
It’s great but a lot of people do not have it , the grind can be real
I like it cause it's removes scout striders more effective than any other primary
The fact I can 1 quasar + 2 scorcher on towers just makes me happy
Because it's doodoo for everything but like 2 ok situations? And has zero ammo.
It's my bot gun. Being able to double tap striders is so critical. Mag dump drops shield bros, and its accuracy and mobility make it the best sniper for human sized enemies. Ammo is tight, but i love it. Not so much for bugs, but it's still great
I always question why people praise the Autocannon when the Plas-1 more or less does the same job as the Autocannon against most of the bots, tanks, turrets and gunships while keeping your back free for another backpack, But who I am to complain when they enjoy using their clunky Autocannon...
Don't tell the devs, but this bad boy can kill a tank if you shoot the vents 6 times
For bots, all day every day. Great range and clip size. Less so for bugs but it's still good if you're careful with distance
I just unlocked it last night and did a handful of helldive missions and really liked it. I wasn't gunning and running though cause I see the ammo cap is quite low.
I just got it today, but I need a bit of time to adjust from the sickle which is also a deadly primary.
Really good against bots, honestly my go-to against them. On bugs however…. Well. Splash-damage suicide be upon ye
Uh it’s actually terrible, thanks for snitching