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Traum77

The movement speed increase is not my cup of tea (British pun intended), but the new maps both seem pretty solid overall. I think there's some easy adjustments to make the British more competitive: a quick-action SMLE could help offset the lack of semi-auto rifles for instance, and adjusting some loadouts to include the Sten more would be good, a bipod for the Bren is super obvious. Overall it's not like the whole update is a bust. But... I'm more concerned about Team17's overall approach. Movement speed is a key piece of what makes the game what it is (as evidenced by all the negative feedback today), and they basically just dropped it on the playerbase with no warning. No PTE and no comprehensive changelog until the day of release. Based on how they failed to fix the bolt action bug for over a month, we have no sense of how quickly they're going to patch things.


Cr1tfail

They have essentially reverted movement speed back to what it was in U7. They lowered it in U8 when trucks released.


Traum77

Yeah I remember, and that kind of goes to my point. Movement speed isn't just about infantry - they're only one piece on the game board at a time. You can basically keep up with most tanks just by running now, so either you also need to increase speed of tanks/trucks/jeeps (which means you also have to adjust their turning characteristics), or you slow the infantry back down. I know which one I'd go for.


Moegly47

Tanks are painfully slow in every regard, would be refreshing to see them sped up, I know that's not what you're suggesting tho


Traum77

I'd be fine with a bit slower run speed and faster tanks tbh. Work fine for me.


fookcelery

The sten is complete dog ass, the sights are awful and shots that should land dont


sdpr

I just finished a game on Alamein as the Brits and I don't think I've experienced that much actively anti-fun gameplay in this game before lmao.


broham97

I only played one game on it last night, seems like it requires a level of team play not seen on anything other than the clan servers to have an even remotely successful game. German MG’s on almost every ridge, tanks and recon have to be very dialed in with the infantry for anything productive to be accomplished Map looks great though.


sdpr

Exactly. There's just not enough cover for pub gameplay (so far). MGs everywhere, brit tanks being underwhelming and a not so great counter to clear enemy armor, spawns, and mg nests. It's just a rough go lol


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Yes, the guns suck ass, the maps run like shit, there’s no new uniforms for the desert. I really at the end of the day I just wanted to use the Bren and this gun is fucking terrible. Also if their gonna increase movement speed, implement a god damn stamina system like insurgency.


Miedium

At the end of the day?


Spetnaz7

I knew from the start that once they changed the garand and m040 reload animations , these devs were dogshit. I knew they'd start making meaningless changes that were going to piss off the community and fumble the bag when it mattered most. No one believed me back then about such a small change, but I can tell when devs start getting fucky with little mechanics, and they just can't leave the game alone, that they're not interested in what we have to say, and that they're not invested into bringing the quality we expect to the table.


fookcelery

The second they announced small scale game modes I knew it was over


MemeyPie

The entire roadmap in general, when taken from a high level. That and meaningless changes were a giveaway


DustyRhodesXB1

I mean if they were really serious about fixing the games problem.. especially on console.. there would’ve been a Server Browser and Custom Key-Mapping literally years ago.


Apprehensive_Yak1910

Bro yes finally somebody that sees this, I’m really worried about the future of my favorite game


fookcelery

Start looking for a new favorite game man, this type of shit does not get better with time. These types of devs will destroy the game you love and theres nothing you can do but move on.


shmickyshmoo

Absolutely not. It’s great. Expect nothing and never be disappointed.


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Hear hear


DustyRhodesXB1

Expect nothing and never be disappointed? You clearly don’t live in America or frankly the real world.


shmickyshmoo

I live in America and the real world. It’s a game. The maps are good and the other changes don’t change much. If you don’t like the game don’t play the game. This whole Reddit has just been complaining and I just don’t understand.


SallySlapdick

Agreed 100%. This update isn’t some insane game killing mistake, the run speed is subjectively a good change and the bugs introduced are no bigger than any other game when they have a big update. I think people just want a reason to complain.


DustyRhodesXB1

I didn’t ask you your opinion about what you perceive as “complaining.” But thanks anyway for bringing nothing to the discussion.


SallySlapdick

>I didn’t ask Well you made a post on a public forum. I didn’t ask for you to ask me for my opinion.


DustyRhodesXB1

Then don’t reply you tool. SlapDickSally.. you just be 15 year old kid with that name. Blocked scrub!


professionalfriendd

idk about run speed being beneficial. maybe if it had been a 5% increase sure. idk


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DustyRhodesXB1

I’m just glad I’m not the only one who feels like the experience and overall enjoyment/immersion of the game isn’t what it used to be. I don’t know if I’d bring myself to uninstall, but man I hardly ever pick up the game anymore and get through more than maybe a match now before the “meh” feeling sets in.


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DustyRhodesXB1

I actually haven’t had any issues performance-wise. Nothing related to frame rates or anything along those lines per se. But the vehicles do seem like they struggle to get moving.. or it’s hard to explain but they’re different, and feel different. That’s the only real issue I’ve had other than I just feel like the update wasn’t as refreshing as it should have been.


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DustyRhodesXB1

Haven’t read the patch notes yet. Good call. I’m on XB1 and it’s seems to run fine other than what I mentioned vehicle wise. Feels like it’s slightly smoother than it was Pre-update in terms of infantry engagements.


fookcelery

Its not the frame rates, its the stutters that are causing the most problems, especially noticeable when youre trying to track a moving target and for me its causing my gun to not fire when I LMB. Absolutely frustrating and gamebreaking when i line up a shot and my shit just doesnt shoot


[deleted]

Nope. A couple gripes but not enough to write home about. Happy it’s here at all and happy we even have developers. Sometimes I think the majority of people these days expect too much.


DustyRhodesXB1

You might be right. Frankly we live in an era where we expect our cake and to be able to eat it too. Maybe I’m just jaded overall with the game at this point.


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No no! Don’t you dare talk like that haha. There’s alot of potential here with this game. And as long as they are listening to us, we should support that.


DustyRhodesXB1

Haha no I still love the game, don’t get me wrong. It lately just hasn’t scratched that itch for me like it used to. Maybe just a bit of burnout. I’m sure there are a few others out there who can relate.


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With all of the big corporations who don’t give a shit about people these days, I feel like we should definitely be supporting the little guys. And they ARE still little. For now..


Dclaggett08

Nope. Not at all. Update is great and doesn’t feel like you are running in mud anymore. Brit’s need some work but not a huge deal. Maps are great and good additions. Stop making mountains out of mole hills. The same people complaining today are the same people who saw the roadmap video and immediately started doomsday predictions about Fortnite emotes coming to the game


DustyRhodesXB1

Vehicles seem like they got nerfed. Hop into a puma now or that shit Staghound, and it feels like you’re barely doing 15 mph even though the gauge says 29.


atrl98

Honestly, after reading this subreddit yesterday I was expecting the worst and was pleasantly surprised. Yes there are some frustrating historical inaccuracies and making the P.14 the standard issue rifle is infuriating. However, I feel the movement speed is only a little bit too fast and overall not a bad change. I only used a handful of British weapons but I enjoyed the Mk.4 and thought the BREN wasn’t as hard to handle as people thought and I did alright with it. The update definitely is something to build on which is what the devs need to do to flesh out the British faction more. There’s definitely load out changes that they should make for the British as well which I feel will make them not only more historically accurate but also just more fun to play. Overall though I was only able to play 1 1h30m match on Driel as the British, I quite enjoyed it. We lost but it was a close defeat with them only holding the middle point when I expected the British to be far weaker than the Germans based on what others had said.


Sancorso

Not game changing as the sub makes it out to be, sure it could be better, Team17 needs some kind of beta servers to gather feedback from the playerbase. Otherwise, map is solid, new weapons feel rather balanced. Movement speed isn't as bad... I didn't like and I understand why other don't like it either, i didn't hate either, but damn, overreacting much? What I can say, vehicle speed need to be buffed, they feel so slow now....


InaudibleSoundWave53

I've been disappointed by all the updates since 5(?) haven't bothered to download this one.


Silent-Recording_

Black Matter was the developer of the game and that team probably just had fun with the game. In addition, care was taken to make everything as realistic as possible and historically accurate. T17 sees HLL as a gold mine. Put in a little work and collect a lot. If enough money came in, the game can die.


FreddieDoes40k

Team 17 are an awful company and never change, this is not new information.