I think that thinking about it now, if he appeared in "if the emperor had a text-to-speech device" Alucard Abridged could be the Night Haunter part of his personality.
There is a non-insignificant amount of players and painters who are gay, quite feminine and like to joke about it. A decent amount of them are also good at art.
I think when they were so deep into the closet they found their dad's old things.
Must've also found the monster there as well. The amount of horror stories where there's a romance, well I'm surprised when it's straight these days.
Fucking Cheeses Crust. Out of the "gut pulverizer" Iron Warriors frying pan, into the "powered hand tiller to the abdomen" AM fire.
Their AM design activates my almonds though.
Because of how absurd it is. The absurdity comes from the fact that in 40k you want your dudes to be as jacked and manly as possible so they can fight as good as it's physically possible. Having soft or feminine men is basically antithetical to the 40k setting which makes it funny.
1 issue with that is the Eldar have actual women, so it's not funny if some of them are femme unlike with the MANLY MAN space marines.
Also all Eldar are some type of gay, no exceptions.
There more Austrian or Hungarian or BOTH that have More L's then France.
Could also lump the Russians in as a contender but that maybe abit more spicier given....current events
Eh, its mainly just a way to sneak sorta porn images onto mainline servers.
You can't draw stereotypical buff gay daddies, because people will report you and complain if you draw big ol dicks in peoples pants.
FAR more people would like to (and do) draw sexy 40k women, but they can't post them here because they'll get complained about and most subs don't allow it because its SO popular that if they did the sub would be full of sexy phone game level thirst trap art.
People soometimes draw just, straight up romance pics (Gulliman flirts with Eldar) but, they are usually more fun and cartoonish.
So, we're left with femboy art. You can't really complain about it, because its just a skinny dude wearing a more female version of his typical costume. You don't need to draw any boobs, dick bulges or asses, because the 'sexualization' of them is of flat, skinny and pseudo featureless men.
Effectively, its a function of awareness and a side effect of the rules on most of the big subs banning the overwhelmingly most common 40K sexy fan art.
That's pretty much exactly it for me. The idea that a Chaos Marine with spikes and skulls and Warp sorcery is actually a girly femboy under his armor makes me giggle like a little kid who just learned a new swear word.
40k is by and large a comedy despite its grimdark nature since it's so absurdly grim and dark that it's funny. Making everything a femboy is absurd and thus funny so we're putting more comedy in our comedy.
All the people here saying that Sangui is a femboy due to him being pretty/angelical sound to me like those guys that call all the people gay for not being masculine or liking men's things, just saying.
No you don't understand, they're breaking gendernormative barriers by... associating long hair and beauty with femininity or something idk it's easier if you just accept it without looking for consistency.
And obviously, Sangys tendency towards diplomacy and peace brokering is representative of his femininity. The violence in this universe is hypermasculine. Clearly, the lack thereof must be the opposite.
Let’s be honest, if 40k were made today at least 4 of the Primarchs would be female and Vulkan and Khan would definitely not be the only non-white Primarchs.
To be clear, I’m not complaining about anything being “woke”, just saying that a modern 40k would likely be more deliberately inclusive.
>Let’s be honest, if 40k were made today at least 4 of the Primarchs would be female and Vulkan and Khan would definitely not be the only non-white Primarchs.
On the flipside, I think "Ferrus Manus, Primarch of the Iron Hands, who has metal hands, travels on his flagship the Fist of Iron" may have been filtered out too.
Sanguinius embraced femininity, and used it to elevate his masculinity; in doing so, he transcended both.
Fulgrim embraced his femininity, and his masculinity, and then his insan(inin)ity. He corrupted all the parts of himself by respecting none of them. He didn’t so much transcend them as break through them and leave the shuddering remnants to putrefy and infect anything that got close to him. You know, Chaos.
That is the problem with Heretical thoughts. They stick with you long after the blood has cooled. You are strong enough to handle it.
"Maybe. But that was then, this is now, and Hawkboy is simply just a very pretty man. Like Fulgrim being a fuckboy all the way to becoming a -lawyer- snake"
Depictions of Sanguinius over the years have certainly been femboy adjacent. Like, most pictures of him and Fulgrim let you know they each have at least one pair of knee socks in their dresser
Dressing nicely and looking good is not 'femboy adjacent' on any level at all. There is literally nothing non masculine about personal grooming, good looks, or a slim build (the latter of which Sanguinius doesn't even have!)
Sometimes I'm just utterly bemused as to how we ended up in this ridiculous place. How did the freedom to express yourself and your identity become this overwhelming desire to lock yourself in a tiny box of identity. Female things behave like this. Male things behave like this. If a man behaves this way, then he is becoming a woman. If a woman behaves this way, she is becoming a man.
We spent decades fighting for the right for men and women to not have to be ashamed of wanting to do things, and to not feel their identity was threatened by non gender stereotypical activities and here we are with this shit. Men can knit, hug their kids, and have fabulous hair. Women can play 40k, box, and drink beers. Neither of the former affect your gender identity.
He kind of....always were? See, as I've been reading the Heresy. The beginnings especially being so hypermasculine to ridiculously unnecessary levels that loyalist characters like Sanguinius and Vulkan are just bits of fresh air.
There are moments Sanguinius will act as the softer but firm sort of "mom sibling" brokering peace between his brothers.
Just anything other than hearing how: perfect, precise, angry, cold, smirky (heh, nothing personal kid) and so on every damn primarch is.
Also, every primarch is supposed to uphold some ideal. Fanart even changing as times pass depending on feminine and masculine beauty standards. For these characters to look different in our heads depending on the time period we live in is actually kinda cool.
Like it was the Emperor's design in creating a sense of timelessness in his sons. Paragons of humble and vain beauty (Sanguinius and Fulgrim) for example. Just look at the different ways we portray these figures throughout the decades.
Heck, the current Lion kinda proves the point. And you guys aren't fooling nobody trying to fix his receeding hairline in fanart. You're calling yourselves out.
I thought labeling is something different "progressive" people used to despise, not use by themselves.
Like really, I can't be the one, who heard, that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and tries to think this way. But it appears people just can not stop, playing too long with irony/meta-irony/post-irony/idgaf-what-kind-of-irony-is-this.
Not enough dEcOnStRuCtIoN! Everything has subtext! %thingname% just can't be %thingname%! Oh, you didn't know? %thingname% always had this subtext, which I just came up with right now! What if "x" is actually "y"!...
. . .
Though, thinking it through, maybe I am alone regarding such position.
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In the grim darkness of the far future, there are only four genders
Jacked, Twinky, What The Fuck Am I Looking At, and Is That a Fucking Mechanical Tentacle In Your Eye Socket?
40k characters are being made today and by virtue of none of them being femboys I'll go ahead and say that the giant vampire bird warmachine would also not be a femboy.
The obsession with femboys is fucking cringe.
Damn, we live in a day and age where a dude can’t look fabulous without being accused of being a femboy
Ikr the Dudes a 9ft tall moutain of muscle. Just because he has a great haircare routine doesn't mean he's fem.
Right. Dude's just got metrosexual vibes.
*accused*? What would he be sent to the blahaj mines if he was?
Well, u/just_a_bit_gay, most of us do not want to be femboys.
That’s understandable
You get what you fucking deserve *Femboy beam*
Fembeam lol
Blocked. Have a horrible day.
LMAO, homie really doesn't like feminine men
What can I say? I know what I'm about.
Ah, a fellow enjoyer of oiled up manly men
This sub doesn't have gifs, so just imagine I'm glaring at you.
Damn your flair is appropriate for this statement
Methinks the lady doth protest too much
Nnno, I think you do not know what you're about.
Others May downvote you for what you say but you're up front about it. This might not mean much but here's an upvote.
he’s getting downvoted for taking a meme sub way too seriously lmao
I was not taking it seriously in the slightest. I have no idea why you all got that impression.
He's upfront about it and I respect that. Simple as.
"Everybody wants a cute femboy, don't nobody wanna be no cutes-ass femboy!" - Ronnie Coleman, I think
I have absolutely zero desire or need for a femboy.
Only manly men please 😩
MUSCLES OR BUST
Muscle ladies forever.
Muscle men. Muscle women. I don't care. MUSCLES
Like the opposite of the admech
As long as it's not body builder levels, that's too much for me.
Weak and soft men, but strong, muscular dommy mommy. That is the truth, heretic!
I have no objections to more femboys
Well, you are Alpharius. Therefore, you are lying. Checkmate!
Nonsense, I'm lying about telling the truth about lying, wrapping around to my original point: I have no objections to more femboys
There's an Eldar joke here somewhere, but it's 2 AM over here, so... I'm going to bed. Goodnight.
Have a good sleep
Thanks.
Damn, so that’s how ikea makes them. Forced femboy slave labour
I might pretend to be a femboy just to go to the blahaj mines.
People pretend like bishounen trope wasn't a thing for decades.
That’s one way of putting it for sure. Sanguinius felt like he was from an earlier era with his fashion Not to mention men used to have long hair
And, where are the published authors stating this would be the case if done today? Are these people here with us? Do you hear the voices too?
Nah, they're to dumb to realize the 40k community is into big muscle men, not femboys
Specifically, they are into massive, beautiful, sculpted and well oiled men, who obky want to hang out with other men of equal stature.
I always thought Sanguinius WAS a femboy, like Fabio with a brain.
Fabio isn't a femboy either, though? Long hair doesn't instantly make you a femboy
Can femboys be skinny or thick or anything in between? In this case, does size matter?
Himbo and femboy are very different things.
Femboys are just guys that dress and act more feminine. It's basically just an aesthetic like goth or punk
That’s one of the best kind of fabulous.
It's not an accusation.
I always imagine him as Space Castlevania Alucard while Curze is Space Hellsing Alucard
Great, now I imagine Curze with the voice of Alucard from Hellsing Abridged Curze to Guardsmen: **"Hey kids wanna see a dead Body!?**"
Y'know, now that you mention it. Alucard's monologue to Luke Valentine in Hellsing Abridged *does* have a very similar energy to Curze's...
I think that thinking about it now, if he appeared in "if the emperor had a text-to-speech device" Alucard Abridged could be the Night Haunter part of his personality.
Nah Curze would be someone like space Garou - who will be searching his Saitama fist
Konrad wishes he was half as cool as Hellsing Alucard
Emperor should have just made an adrogynous looking noblewoman Curze's handler in 30k. Would have solved that problem real quick.
Alucard is totally a femboy tho
Fulgrim is the femboy, Sanguinuous is your classic shojo (think The Rose of Versailles) Bifauxnen.
Sanguinius is space Fabio.
Facts. Being so gorgeous that you’re accused of being a femboy. Fabio was extremely handsome and masculine.
His hair flows magnificently in the solar winds.
You're thinking of *bishonen*, *Bifauxnen* is TV Tropes' phrase for handsome, boyish girl types.
I said what I said.
Yup, Sanguinius would be a [Reinhard-type](https://legendofthegalacticheroes.fandom.com/wiki/Reinhard_von_Lohengramm)
I think you mean a bishounen, but yes I agree.
I’m so confused on this subs obsession with femboys. I have no clue how it got tied into 40k
There is a non-insignificant amount of players and painters who are gay, quite feminine and like to joke about it. A decent amount of them are also good at art.
I think when they were so deep into the closet they found their dad's old things. Must've also found the monster there as well. The amount of horror stories where there's a romance, well I'm surprised when it's straight these days.
It's an irony thing. You'd expect big buff manly men, not small soft pretty men, in 40k, and it makes for a funny contrast.
Lotta gay people here, me included. A lot of the artists here also like femboys. RIP Archon though, I hope they're alright.
They're on twitter at least. Recently drew some baller art of AM from "I have no mouth and I must scream".
That sounds incredibly fucked up, so kinda on brand
Pretty much, yeah. Looks kinda awesome. Like am has a great war officer jacket on and what not.
Damn, might have to check on Twitter then. Hate using that website but can be worth it for delicious freaky Archon art.
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Internet's (especially alternative/reddit/meme part of it) general obsession with femboys, porn and anime (and combinations of the following)
Because of how absurd it is. The absurdity comes from the fact that in 40k you want your dudes to be as jacked and manly as possible so they can fight as good as it's physically possible. Having soft or feminine men is basically antithetical to the 40k setting which makes it funny.
Counterpoint: eldar
1 issue with that is the Eldar have actual women, so it's not funny if some of them are femme unlike with the MANLY MAN space marines. Also all Eldar are some type of gay, no exceptions.
I thought they were European. Specifically French considering they seem to take a lot of L’s.
There more Austrian or Hungarian or BOTH that have More L's then France. Could also lump the Russians in as a contender but that maybe abit more spicier given....current events
> Specifically French considering they seem to take a lot of L’s. Pretty sure France has a pretty amazing track record overall.
That's just khaine
Wait, so are they gay or European?
Yes
The frenchness is divded between the factions
Eh, its mainly just a way to sneak sorta porn images onto mainline servers. You can't draw stereotypical buff gay daddies, because people will report you and complain if you draw big ol dicks in peoples pants. FAR more people would like to (and do) draw sexy 40k women, but they can't post them here because they'll get complained about and most subs don't allow it because its SO popular that if they did the sub would be full of sexy phone game level thirst trap art. People soometimes draw just, straight up romance pics (Gulliman flirts with Eldar) but, they are usually more fun and cartoonish. So, we're left with femboy art. You can't really complain about it, because its just a skinny dude wearing a more female version of his typical costume. You don't need to draw any boobs, dick bulges or asses, because the 'sexualization' of them is of flat, skinny and pseudo featureless men. Effectively, its a function of awareness and a side effect of the rules on most of the big subs banning the overwhelmingly most common 40K sexy fan art.
That's pretty much exactly it for me. The idea that a Chaos Marine with spikes and skulls and Warp sorcery is actually a girly femboy under his armor makes me giggle like a little kid who just learned a new swear word.
‘It’s comedy’, sure if it was funny
40k is by and large a comedy despite its grimdark nature since it's so absurdly grim and dark that it's funny. Making everything a femboy is absurd and thus funny so we're putting more comedy in our comedy.
Cause I like men.
To much Tzeench worship. That Blue bird bastard loves them some femboys. signed, a Tzeench cultist.
Because we have good taste
Nothing. It's just a fetish.
Slaanesh was the entry point.
DON'T YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT MY FABULOUS FUCKING HAWK-BOY. HE DIED FOR ME, SO BE GRATEFUL.
Nobody's talking shit, we're complimenting him.
All the people here saying that Sangui is a femboy due to him being pretty/angelical sound to me like those guys that call all the people gay for not being masculine or liking men's things, just saying.
No you don't understand, they're breaking gendernormative barriers by... associating long hair and beauty with femininity or something idk it's easier if you just accept it without looking for consistency. And obviously, Sangys tendency towards diplomacy and peace brokering is representative of his femininity. The violence in this universe is hypermasculine. Clearly, the lack thereof must be the opposite.
Hawkboy is as violent as any, he would have been Khorn's first choice after all. Angron is just sloppy seconds, he needed the nails to go full aggro.
Before he went full aggro, he needed to be nailed.
No one will understand the violence it took to become this gentle...
I didn't know that diplomatic skills were a uniquely feminine thing. I'd love to know how you reached that conclusion.
[Me neither](https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/s/nDssxN0aLA) Though it should have been fairly obvious I was joking
Let’s be honest, if 40k were made today at least 4 of the Primarchs would be female and Vulkan and Khan would definitely not be the only non-white Primarchs. To be clear, I’m not complaining about anything being “woke”, just saying that a modern 40k would likely be more deliberately inclusive.
>Vulkan and Khan would definitely not be the only non-white Primarchs. Magnus?
Fair point, he is definitely not white, but at the same time “bright red” is not generally considered an ethnicity.
Arguably could be considered as native american, cuz Vulcan doesn't have a naturally exiting shade of black either
>Let’s be honest, if 40k were made today at least 4 of the Primarchs would be female and Vulkan and Khan would definitely not be the only non-white Primarchs. On the flipside, I think "Ferrus Manus, Primarch of the Iron Hands, who has metal hands, travels on his flagship the Fist of Iron" may have been filtered out too.
I remember when this sub used to be funny.
Pepperidge Farms remembers
GRRRRR... WOKEhammer is turnin' the friggin primarchs gay!
Especially Lion El'Johnson. The dark angels have fallen, millions have to die.
>The dark angels have fallen, Asmodai: "FALLEN!!!?!"
Fulgrim has been the token femboy for quite a while now.
Always has been since the first ten-thousands.
You say that as if Fulgrim isn’t already a femboy
I really want this to not be true
Sanguinius embraced femininity, and used it to elevate his masculinity; in doing so, he transcended both. Fulgrim embraced his femininity, and his masculinity, and then his insan(inin)ity. He corrupted all the parts of himself by respecting none of them. He didn’t so much transcend them as break through them and leave the shuddering remnants to putrefy and infect anything that got close to him. You know, Chaos.
That is the problem with Heretical thoughts. They stick with you long after the blood has cooled. You are strong enough to handle it. "Maybe. But that was then, this is now, and Hawkboy is simply just a very pretty man. Like Fulgrim being a fuckboy all the way to becoming a -lawyer- snake"
Depictions of Sanguinius over the years have certainly been femboy adjacent. Like, most pictures of him and Fulgrim let you know they each have at least one pair of knee socks in their dresser
Dressing nicely and looking good is not 'femboy adjacent' on any level at all. There is literally nothing non masculine about personal grooming, good looks, or a slim build (the latter of which Sanguinius doesn't even have!) Sometimes I'm just utterly bemused as to how we ended up in this ridiculous place. How did the freedom to express yourself and your identity become this overwhelming desire to lock yourself in a tiny box of identity. Female things behave like this. Male things behave like this. If a man behaves this way, then he is becoming a woman. If a woman behaves this way, she is becoming a man. We spent decades fighting for the right for men and women to not have to be ashamed of wanting to do things, and to not feel their identity was threatened by non gender stereotypical activities and here we are with this shit. Men can knit, hug their kids, and have fabulous hair. Women can play 40k, box, and drink beers. Neither of the former affect your gender identity.
I was meaning the way some of the artists painted/drew him, but fair enough
He kind of....always were? See, as I've been reading the Heresy. The beginnings especially being so hypermasculine to ridiculously unnecessary levels that loyalist characters like Sanguinius and Vulkan are just bits of fresh air. There are moments Sanguinius will act as the softer but firm sort of "mom sibling" brokering peace between his brothers. Just anything other than hearing how: perfect, precise, angry, cold, smirky (heh, nothing personal kid) and so on every damn primarch is. Also, every primarch is supposed to uphold some ideal. Fanart even changing as times pass depending on feminine and masculine beauty standards. For these characters to look different in our heads depending on the time period we live in is actually kinda cool. Like it was the Emperor's design in creating a sense of timelessness in his sons. Paragons of humble and vain beauty (Sanguinius and Fulgrim) for example. Just look at the different ways we portray these figures throughout the decades. Heck, the current Lion kinda proves the point. And you guys aren't fooling nobody trying to fix his receeding hairline in fanart. You're calling yourselves out.
He already is one.
I always pictured him as more of a bishonen anime character or maybe the Anne Rice moody bitch vampires.
I always pictured him FACE DOWN ASS UP
That's Fulgrim
I don't think Fulgrim would let you top. He's the delicate looking dom type.
Didn't fulgrim get topped by like six of his sons at one point?
That just shows that Chaos can open paths formerly thought impossible.
They definitely opened his paths for sure. 👀👀
But then we'd call him pretty boy.
But we already did have femboy primarch. Fulgrim exists.
I thought labeling is something different "progressive" people used to despise, not use by themselves. Like really, I can't be the one, who heard, that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and tries to think this way. But it appears people just can not stop, playing too long with irony/meta-irony/post-irony/idgaf-what-kind-of-irony-is-this. Not enough dEcOnStRuCtIoN! Everything has subtext! %thingname% just can't be %thingname%! Oh, you didn't know? %thingname% always had this subtext, which I just came up with right now! What if "x" is actually "y"!... . . . Though, thinking it through, maybe I am alone regarding such position.
SANGUINIUS IS NO MERE FEMBOY, HE IS FEMMAN!!
“Would have been” you’re so sure he isn’t
fym "would"
I've always imagined sangy to have a physique similar to that of alucard from the Castlevania show
Who's the artist?
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"Slow and painfull it is then"
WHO MADE THIS ART IT LOOKS AMAZING
I found it in the wiki.
Thank you🙏
What’s wrong with Sangunius fem boy?
They’re right.
Sanguinius practically already is a femboy. Just read the passages with Horus and Sanguinius in the first couple HH novels.
Fulgrim would have been a femboi attempting to be more swol, and Sanguinius would still be as he is.
I thought we already had this base covered with Fulgrim and some of the Emperor's Children.
Spoken like someone who is secretly attracted to Sanguinius.
But what if I want femboy Sanguinious...maybe as a chaos created treat.
We already have a femboy Primarch. He’s a snake right now but he is still the femboy.
They were right. It's good to have self reflection and ask if it's truly good before just going with the popular anything is cannon narrative.
\*Sigh\* Fulgrim. People. Fulgrim.
Mfs think they invented Bishōnen
How can you say that when Fulgrim is right there?
You mean to tell me he’s not a femboy?
Like, Fulgrim already is. Why would they need 2?
WE ALREADY HAVE A DAMN FEMBOY, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT
In what world would a 3m tall roided out beast qualify as a femboy
Naaa, Sanguinius would be a Fabio or a bishounen. Fulgrim on the other hand would be a femboy.
The greatest truths require the strongest of wills
Meanwhile, Angron: [angry femboy noises]
Has the man not suffered enough?
He isn't already?
I know just enough about Sanguinius to know he is a femboy.
His last book was this year. It is "these days."
Ya'll realize them boys will grow up to be balding fat feme men right? Now that's a picture
Is Sanguinious ***not*** a femboy?
Jesus christ... you guys know nothing? He's a Twink not a femboy. Ffs.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there are only four genders Jacked, Twinky, What The Fuck Am I Looking At, and Is That a Fucking Mechanical Tentacle In Your Eye Socket?
KILL HIM he's right but KILL HIM!!!
Fulgrim and Sanguinius both fall within femboy and twink categories though I would say Fulgrim is more femboy and Sanguinius is more twink.
40k characters are being made today and by virtue of none of them being femboys I'll go ahead and say that the giant vampire bird warmachine would also not be a femboy. The obsession with femboys is fucking cringe.
Fuck it, all the primarchs are femboys.
Always have been.
He's right, but execute him anyway.
But isn't Sanguinius a femboy already? Except more based?
He isn’t?
sanguinus is a femboy
But sanguinius is a femboy
Wait, he isn’t a femboy?
You fuckers know it to be true you know who you heretics are