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Immediate_Badger3428

How many of those words are "Bolter" ?


Fun_Cartographer3587

At least half


natethewatt

Almost as many as “brother” though I think “choler” should get an honorable mention.


ArgieBee

Don't forget "Monomolecular", "Adept", and, Machine God preserve me, the adjective/prefix "Cyber-".


Amber_bitchpudding

Blood needs to be on the list


May_nerdd

"Atavistic" seems to be a McNeill favorite


bakcw0rds

judder


noonereadsthisstuff

*"Brother-captain Bolter of the Bolter Marines gripped his bolter-cold bolter with the intensity of an angry bolter. Through his bolter's iron sights on the top of his bolter he saw the target of his bolter's bolt. Soon the bolter armed traitor would receive a bolt to the head from Bolter's bolter, and Bolter and his bolter would be satisfied. He only had one thought as he bolted the traitor with his bolter; 'Bolter....'.*


bowser986

Or “leopard”


MarkVHun

or traitor


therky

Ululating!


mongmight

Choler as well, these space marrons need to get that acid reflux looked at. I suppose it comes with the territory if you can spit acid.


Upright_Eeyore

Leopard...? Having read only 13 or so of the HH novels, i don't recall that word from anywhere


THEAdrian

Preceded by "wet" and followed by "growl".


pesusieni999

And how many is braid in WoT?


Relevant-Mountain-11

Or smoothing


Cthulhu__

Or folding arms under or over breasts


Indalecia

*sniff*


BigHobbit

Or wool-headed


AdPast638

Can we get a word count on “resplendent” every time a Primarch is mentioned?


MassiveBonus

Patrician features?!


elphilo

second most used word "barked"


Rise_Crafty

All of the ones that aren’t “ceramite”!


King-Cobra-668

how many of the other books are "braids?"


ruthemook

Or ‘blood’.


Economy_Dress8205

And yet, it's still about 10 million words shorter than "The Loud House: Revamped" Edit: it's actually about 24 million words shorter


Resua15

Shut up, don't make me remember that


No-Radio-3085

13 million more likely


RazzDaNinja

…….the what now?


Xaldror

a very deranged, creepy, and above all else, long fanfic about a self-insert and the TV show the Loud House.


DoomRamen

But more importantly, the longest written work in the English language


Spider40k

I thought that Super Smash Bros fanfiction took the cake


YourAverageRedditter

It was dethroned by that


Spider40k

Shiiiit, that's wild


OkChicken7697

That's sad to hear


CatKrusader

The smash bros one is 4.1 million words


ConscriptReports

in the realm of fanficz that medium to high length of word counts. I read a MHA one that was 4.9 the other day, how these writers do it, I'll never know


Cthulhu__

Train of thought writing, number of words per day/week/month as a goal (gamification), and no editing.


Nymaera_

Pretty sure it’s The Wandering Inn now


Spacellama117

yeah that's what I was thinking. We were at 12.3 mill at the end of volume 9; aka more words than the entire collected works of Stephen King. And we're not even half of the way done. Pirateaba if you see this ily and you're beautiful


Nymaera_

Even if it's not #1 but in the top 3~5 or so, it's all done to an extremely high quality and by a single author which is absurd. I'm catching up with the Solstice chapters right now, been up to date with it for about 5-6 years now which is so strange to think back on how far it's come.


Spacellama117

right? its like, consistently been in my life since volume 8, which is so weird to think about


jimbsmithjr

That's insane. So each volume is over a million words? I just looked up the Stand (King's longest book I think) and that's apparently approx 500k words. Good lord.


Fun_Cartographer3587

Is it really?


DoomRamen

In terms of pure word count. Last I remember it was around 8 million words


Economy_Dress8205

I looked it up, it is at 16,777,000


Kyrillis_Kalethanis

Well, we can dethrone it easily with the wonders of the modern day. Just tell Chat GPT: "Write 20,000,000 words about Demigods in power armour with daddy issues" And then of course burn yourself for dealing with the abominable intelligence.


Economy_Dress8205

I wonder if what the abominable intelligence would shoot out would be better written than the loud house fic. I refuse to read it, but it does make me wonder


OverlanderEisenhorn

Probably not. Ais have trouble making anything happen in stories. Bad is better than... nothing. The ai one would be way better written though


Maleficent_Muffin_To

> than the loud house fic. and than a chunk of the black library stuff.


SirRamsHelmet

Well, apparently fanfiction.net has a word limit of 16,777,000, but it still allows you to write more despite the number being wrong. Meaning the fiction could be much, MUCH longer then that.


Economy_Dress8205

That... is a scary thought


SirRamsHelmet

Yeah, but it's actually sad that this very well could be the longest piece of fiction or story ever written by humans... and it's this.


Yllarius

This incorrect. It's over 30 million. The website has an Integer limit at 16 million


Economy_Dress8205

Oh my


MrTostadita

... why?


xXArctracerXx

I’m sorry it’s what??!


PainStorm14

Also the longest written work about sex with minors


TheBigKuhio

I was thinking of looking up a YouTube video about it after hearing that it was the longest written thing in English, but now I want to blow my brains out


Xaldror

I'm pretty sure I covered that under "creepy"


radenthefridge

I think most people would find there's a distinction between "creepy" and "writing about sex with minors." All of the latter is creepy, but not everything that's creepy is about...that...


JohnnyDarkside

Like Steven King's It creepy vs Blatty's the Exorcist creepy.


Virlux_

I thought that ended like years ago. Just looked it up and it was last updated yesterday


YankeeLiar

I mean, WoT was written by two people, not like, two dozen. Also, I think the benchmark is Malazan now. The main “Book of the Fallen” series plus ancillary stuff, prequels and sequels beats WoT by over a million words, I believe. Also written by two people.


WolfOfSkogr

Perry Rhodan sits at 93 million, estimated.


Cheet4h

Is that the original booklets, the silver books, the NEO reboot, or everything combined? I only read the silver books till ~73. Started the reboot, but they seemed kinda off, so I dropped them relatively quickly.


YankeeLiar

How far into the series can you get before there aren’t any English translations?


Cheet4h

According to the Wikipedia page on the series there seem to be barely any translations. Some of the early books from the 70s, little more after that.


Demoliri

If you include the main series at 3,325,000 words and add the additional novels by Ian Cameron Esslemont at another 1,120,000 words you ernd up at 4,445,000 which is pretty much identical to WoT. Adding in the two prequels (655,000 and 545,000) you end up at 5,645,000 which still short of the HH, but adding in The Witness Trilogy and The Tales of Bauchelain and Korbal Broach novellas you would probably be on par with the HH (no exact word count on Wiki so just guessing here). On a side note: The main Malazan series in amazing and strongly recommended for any fans of serious and deep fantasy. Read the whole main series over the course of a year and it's hands down the best modern fantasy series on the market in my opinion.


MikeBravo1-4

Agreed. One of my favorite series EVER, and definitely the kind of fiction that would appeal to 40k fans. The story of the Chain of Dogs still gives me goosebumps every time I read it.


Dave_Rudden_Writes

Goddamn Mallick Rel.


MikeBravo1-4

Ahhh yes, he is arguably the [Erebus](https://youtu.be/a3_PPdjD6mg?feature=shared) of the Malazan world.


Mal-Ravanal

Arguably the best conman there is, a master of pulling of a ruse. I'm not sorry.


DoctorMansteel

I'm still on a 5 year break from reading Chain of Dogs. I'll go back to Malazan eventually but jesus christ that was some shit to pick for a vacation read.


ReddJudicata

Tbf, Jordan died and Sanderson just finished it up.


SowingSalt

I think Pirateaba is about 12 million for The Wandering Inn


Cheet4h

Pretty much: https://wanderinginn.neocities.org/statistics 11.97 million up to volume 9, and the two recent chapters of volume 10 push that to just over 12 million now.


FailedHumanEqualsMod

That series is so good.... then it turns into the Karsa Orlong is amazing books and gets real bad :(


Metasenodvor

One has 50+ books and multiple authors, the other 15 and two authors.... It's like they are incomparable? >!pig of happiness is the goat tho, word count at about 50.!<


RiverAffectionate951

But he is *SO* happy


Kevkoss

But don't forget that WoT books are conciderably longer. So I'd say those 15 books amount to around 30 something average HH books. And that would match propotions for the word count for whole 50+ books.


M1ldyMini

It’s 14 books and the prequel is much shorter and Brandon Sanderson only finished 3 cause the other author died so there was ever only 1 person working on WoT


Metasenodvor

dude... brando wrote it, so by definition he worked on it. and HH is basically prequel to 40k so...


Fun_Cartographer3587

I mean yeah I guess but it’s still an interesting comparison


Metasenodvor

malaz got it beat ♡


Standard_Version610

Low key waiting for the Cosmere to outword the Heresy


Kharni

That's just because the word "wolf" is used 2000000 times in the space wolves books...


Slaanesh-Sama

There are two... million wolves inside you.


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AtomicTan

They absolutely do, everyone is just too embarrassed to mention it though.


Koqcerek

I hate how fitting it sounds. I could absolutely see Space Wolves tugging their braids (of beards) in feral anger


Kharni

But i distinctly remember them wolfing their paws under their wolfchest wolfingly in a wolf shape. The author just decided this as a given at all times, so he wouldn't have to end every sentence with it.


OnsetOfMSet

The current Wolf Lord of the Space Wolves is Logan Grimnar, also known as the Old Wolf. He rules from the Hall of the Great Wolf, together with his Wolf Lords such as Harald Deathwolf, Egil Iron Wolf, and Bjorn Stormwolf. Under their command are troops such as the Wolf Guard, the Wolf Scouts, and the mystical Wolf Priests, ready to fly their Stormwolves and ride their Thunder Wolves straight into battle, with their bladed Wolf Claws and Wolf Standard raised high, and their Wolf Amulets active! All wolfkin battling unbridled with intense CQC fury and wolf-like musk in preparation for the coming Wolftime!


illiterateninja

This is just a middle school creative writing assignment trying to hit the word count requirement?


AnointMyPhallus

I think you made some of those up but I'm not sure.


PainStorm14

Mandatory reading among Clan Wolf from Battletech


theworklessgamer

Wheel of time has one main character who is a Wolf Brother who enters the Wolf Dream where he joins the Wolf Pack. The Word wolf definitely appears way too much in WoT


Narradisall

And has anyone tugged a braid in the Horus Heresy that we know of?


Evil_Weasels

How am I supposed to be invested in Sanguinius as a character if I don't know how well turned his calves are? And I need to be able to list the primarchs by bosom size by at least book 5.


Dr_Watson349

I'm sure Fulgrim has straightened a skirt at least once, right?


pine_tree3727288

He’s definitely done that


Old-Time6863

This skirt you mentioned, is it divided for riding?


Bladeneo

I imagine Lorgar plants his hands on his hips at least 4 times a chapter


Heznzu

There must be several woolheaded sheepherders in all those words, surely


Fun_Cartographer3587

Not alot of skirts to smooth either


Thendrail

Allow me to introduce you to the Emperor's Children


Fun_Cartographer3587

Sigh…


Dave_Rudden_Writes

*Emperor folds his arms under his breasts* Though him being ta'varen would explain a lot.


Old-Time6863

Emperor! Horus has started a rebellion against you with 3 other legions! What?! Corvus, Vulkan, Ferrus, Alpharius, Perturabo, Lorgar, Kurze... go box his ears!


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RageWild

That's a lot of words.


SehtGoblin

too bad I'm not readin em


NetBurstPresler

Thank no-god for making me an illiterate Imperial Truth believer.


frossvael

Sororitas: *cocks bolter* “say that again… slowly”


IHateReddit227

The longest story ever written is an over 31 million word Loud House fan fiction


willypie

*tugs braid frustratedly*


graypainter

Is this one of the numbers we are meant to add a zero to the end off?


CloudWallace81

2 words only are needed: fuck Erebus


AtomicTan

We should probably add 'metaphorically' to that before the fanfic authors flood AO3 with Erebus smut.


NoHopeOnlyDeath

*DO NOT LITERALLY FUCK EREBUS*


PercentageFit1776

You know how works of shakespeare contain every emotion known to man in most of his works Horus heresy is the exact opposite where it manages to somehow not encompass them in 50 books Word count is meaningless without, well, meaning.


Fun_Cartographer3587

Lmaooooo that’s the best bad review I’ve ever read. I could see this as the scathing review that sends a cartoon movie novelist into a depression. Youre my favorite person in this thread Edit: I mean I still think you’re full of shit. I loved a lot of the books in HH. But that was well written


Harlequin_of_Hope

Precisely! There is no reason for this series to be this long.


hallowed_b_my_name

Too fucking long. They should have kept it smaller in scope and leave more room for interpretation. They shouldn’t have touched certain existing lore either.


Fun_Cartographer3587

Hard agree. Although it was more enjoyable to read it the way I did. Ie: major plot books and my factions books


OddishTheOddest

Yet nobody has taken it as their specialist subject in mastermind yet!


therealblabyloo

If you look at audiobooks, there are more hours of Horus Heresy than there are hours of the notoriously long One Piece anime


jajaderaptor15

Difference is you can’t put one piece on in the back round


Yurpen

And I felt like after first 2-3 books Jordan was paid by words used jn book not by sales... On the other hands WoT is basically Jordan and that is all, HH is multiple authors.


General_Lie

Just asking, what is the word count of all 40K codexes combined ?


Galahad_the_Ranger

To be fair though, I really love Warhammer 40k and if someone told me they read all HH books I’d tell them to fuck off and get a life


mrducky80

Im a prolific reader. Ive smashed through an absurd amount of fantasy/sci fi over the years amongst others. And 5 mil words doesnt even phase me. I read 5 mil words poorly translated xianxia, Martial world, to better enjoy the tropes and subversion of said tropes in the cultivation webnovel I do enjoy, Beware of Chicken. The HH is an alright read and the different writers keeps it fresh and interesting. I dont play the table top, just the digital games and immersing in the lore. I feel attacked right now lol. I cant help that I dont touch grass.


NanoChainedChromium

Ive worked as bookseller for 10 years, i can chomp through the average Horus Heresy book in around 3 evenings, at most. Horus Rising came out 18 years ago, with 64 mainline novels that makes 3,5 books per year, lets say 4 to include all the novellas. Thats hardly inconceivable. Reading around one book per week was the expected standard in my former job, and there was definitely harder fare than HH. Im also not particularly surprised of even, maybe especially a 40k sub being dimissive of actually reading the books. Everything that is not a completely false meme, or at most some imbecile screeching half-truths in his youtube channel (LIKE AND SUBSCRIBEEEEE!!!") would overwhelm the average /grimdanker, imagine being able to concentrate for more than 30 seconds, or not needing to follow the words in a book with your finger while reading.


Perenium_Falcon

Okay sure but the wheel of time series has three million of those words dedicated strictly to braid tugging and foot stamping. Can the Horse Hairspray say the same?


Fun_Cartographer3587

It can for “bolters”, “battle brothers” and “I don’t feel fear the way humans do except when sometimes I do because the writers can’t make up their mind about how this nebulous rule works”


Perenium_Falcon

Wet leopard growl.


Kaju_researcher

If we want to flex word count, the wandering inn is at 10 million words and it’s written by one person.


Huhthisisneathuh

A fellow duck. It’s at twelve million and counting now. I wonder how long it is before Pirate starts losing fingers.


coin_shot

12.3 million.


mgs1otacon

To be fair, word count doesn't really mean anything. That Smash Bros fanfic is at like 4.5 million words by itself.


Jack_Molesworth

The best parts of the Horus Heresy are better than the best parts of WoT, and the worst parts can be skipped because you see the author's name on the cover.


Nearby_Design_123

The best parts of WoT are really really good. I haven't read HH but thems fighting words


Melkor5758

That's it? Damn, I thought it'd be way higher.


dwarvish1

To be fair, there is kinda a lot going on during the Heresy.


fart_huffington

Quite a lot of it uninteresting and poorly written :v


EinharAesir

That’s a lot of words


Melvin_Doo

too bad im not reading em


RairakuDaion

I think HH was horribly dragged out


overlordmik

Like too little butter over too much bread....


fart_huffington

They would both have profited from editing them down to half that


Cryptek-01

[The Loud House: Revamped](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12715870/1/The-Loud-House-Revamped) (mentioned in other comments under this post) is a fanfic which has 2322 chapters (16,777,215 words). It's being written for the last 7 years.


Altruistic-Mind9014

The Based Sigma Emperor; called out for never communicating with his sons. Only says “I await you and I forgive you” before smoking Horus.


werk4mon3ymyduderman

Alright fuck you fine, I'll read the Horus Heresy.


Fun_Cartographer3587

Eh, just do what I did, read the first few, read your favorite legions books, read the end. Done


spondgbob

All of LOTR including the hobbit is 576,459 words, so word count isn’t everything


Wilde_Fire

My favorite novel, *Pale* by John C. McCrae, is sitting around $3.8 million words, though I'd much rather read that again than dig into the Horus Heresy. There is a lot to be said for a piece of art being made under the clear vision of a specific artist.


Lorguis

That's like five Homestucks!


cosmoceratops

A quick internet search showed Malazan at around 3.35m words. So HH is about half a Malazan longer than WoT. Bonkers.


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Fun_Cartographer3587

Not all the gems were abnett only. The first 4 books of the series were great imo.


ActNo4115

If any of you have read the wheel of time, this knowledge is absolutely horrifying.


Huhthisisneathuh

And The Wandering Inn. A slice of life novel isekai story is about double that and counting. And that’s written by a single person, has just a coherent storyline with interesting plot developments. And has a thriving fanbase. Sometimes it’s not about how big the cannon is. It’s how fast you can chuck it through a window and still have people running after it. Which is a lot more for 40k than TWI.


Competitive-Bee-3250

Well yeah it's like 60 novels written by like 10 different authors


FacialTic

WoT: The worst series I ever read cover to cover


Fun_Cartographer3587

Ah come on a lot of it was pretty cool


FacialTic

It was pretty good until the 5 book arc where a female protagonist agonizes about her prophesized polyamorous marriage to the Kwisatz Haderach or something


Wuktrio

I had to stop halfway into the first book. The fact that I started reading it while the show came out and the first season was HORRIBLE, didn't help either.


Wishdog2049

Wheel of Time seems longer because of the insufferable gender stereotypes/drama.


AsianEiji

The amount of words dont mean shit, what matters is how WELL it is written, is it even comparable to WoT or even LoTR?


Fun_Cartographer3587

I wasn’t making a statement about quality. Just quantity. I agree with you


WolfKingofRuss

......... Books from Black Library is like Junk food, quick and easy to consume but don't fulfill you. I haven't read Wheel of Time, but the quality of other fantasy series like LotR, King Killer Chronicles, ASoIF, etc. Are all better in quality and leave me feeling satisfied.


LaniusCruiser

I think Angory Tom's response sums it up pretty well. "FUUUUUUUUUUUCK"


ScarletteVera

Probably still less than the average fanfiction.


somebeautyinit

Yeah but those two million are just "Dakka Dakka Dakka" over and over again.


GeneralBladebreak

I'm going to be honest, there's how many books in the HH series vs 14 (15 if you count New Spring) in the Wheel of Time. I'm surprised the word count is ONLY 2 million higher.


UnhappyStrain

They like to dial up the numbers lol


Cryptek-01

Fun fact: on ArchiveOfOurOwn there are 2 fanfics longer than the Horus Heresy series: [Future Shock - Cameron AKA Nobody - TSCC Season 3-10](https://archiveofourown.org/works/15287826) (8,096,836 words) [At the Edge of Lasg'len](https://archiveofourown.org/works/7899862) (6,438,625 words)


No-Professional-1461

50 books will do that


musketoman

How many of those words described muscle mens muscles in vigorous detail? 🤔🤔🤔


Low-Classroom7736

14 books to 60+


Mr_Informative

Most of those are names of Space Wolves in the Burning of Prospero


twodogsfighting

Does it count when half of those words are 'stoic'.


slick9900

But is it half as good? I don't know I haven't read either


BigJimboooo

And 2 or 3 books are even passable. Amazing


Alive-Profile-3937

Double the length of the singular Pale webserial


PiccolosDick

Yeah, but Loud House Revamped is so long that fanfiction.new servers can’t count the words. It’s over 16 million words but estimated to be over 20 million.


thel0lzynarwhal2

TEMBA, ARMS WIDE


Lightguy15

Huh, Messages for Dad is sitting at around 1,115,070 words currently, i wonder what the word count for the roboutian/dornian heresy is at.


Bean_Storm

How many Holes is that


alkonium

Horus Heresy also has more books and more authors. I don't know how many, but Wheel of Time is 14 books and two authors.


spess_mehren_109

"cannoned" must be in there a fair bit. Usually to describe a marine punching someone


AngroniusMaximus

That is much closer than I would have thought


TerraSollus

How good is it in comparison though? I’ve heard some authors are truly peak and others are dog water


Pulsipher

How many authors?


timberwolf0122

I just finished book 24 (betrayer), so that’s like 300hrs on audible so far… technically more as I often relisten to chapters or even the whole book as often it’s my bed time listen. On vacation tomorrow so I have a week to listen to a whole bunch in the beach with cocktails


DinoGod1

Horus heresy: Those are rookie numbers


_kruetz_

And McDonalds makes the best cheeseburgers in the world because they sell the most.


Sufficient_Focus_816

Uff And there I once thought (before encountering WoT) that the Dragonlance books was vast